The scene of the French advancing in front of the haka is frome the 2007 WC (followed by French victory). Their was no rule against it at the time. (The fact about the 2011 fine is correct, it's just not the correct video. The 2011 event was a lot more like the England one). I hate that rule, it sucks that teams just have to sit there while islanders are allowed their thing (which I love).
it's an incredibly significant cultural act that connects them with generations of other players,,, why do you think the other players have a right to try and disrupt it?? it'd be like booing during the anthems! rugby is at its best when it's respectful and multicultural, go watch football if you want divas and racists... though it wouldn't be surprising when you call them 'islanders' so derogatorily
@@FearlessOnFourWheels why? what is the english cultural equivalent of this historic practice? maybe the scots, irish, welsh, they at least have celtic culture to draw from, and the samoans, tongans and many other pacific nations already have their own equivalents. if there was culture to form a response from it's not one that needs respecting in my personal opinion; nevertheless, the responses shown here only reflect a lack of respect which rugby should be better than, as enforced by fines...
@@jaseyraeoak I NEVER said disrupt, I would just love to see more of what France did in 2007, which was just getting closer as kind of a challenge. I get that the haka has cultural significance but it doesn't happen in a vacuum, I don't find it very fair to make the opposing players just sit there while the other team is making threatening faces and gestures towards them. English is not my first langage so I'm sorry if there's anything derogatory in 'islanders', it's certainly not my intention and you will notice that I said 'islanders - which I love'.
The fact New Zealand get such special treatment with the Haka is stupid, if they are allowed to do a battle cry the opposition should be allowed to respnd
Why does the haka get special rules and protections? Why should teams have to stand there in reverance to what is a war dance intended to intimidate? Dont get me wrong I love it, but responses/disrespect should be encouraged, all part of the fun right?
Une question pour les Nations de l'hémisphère Sud sont avantagés par les arbitres . Ça s'est vu à plusieurs reprises. A la dernière coupe du Monde c'était flagrant avec les baisés de service , la France et l'Angleterre avec le même arbitre .
it's an incredibly significant cultural act that connects them with generations of other players,,, why do you think the other players have a right to try and disrupt it?? it'd be like booing during the anthems! rugby is at its best when it's respectful and multicultural, go watch football if you want divas and racists...
@@jaseyraeoakI have a new Zealand friend who criticised an England player for challenging the kiwi hocker during the Haka, he said "it's our culture". I said "no it's not, it's the culture of the indigenous people of New Zealand, most of the players were not of indigenous descent. It's stolen culture". Ban the Haka, I say. Get on with the game.
Yeah, I find that a tad irritating. They (NZ) can do their thing but the opposite team can't do one back, it's a no no. If one team can do it then the other should be able to do one back, as long as no fighting is done. Maybe the other team should just ignore and practice in their half or something, just to say FU lol.
it's an incredibly significant cultural act that connects them with generations of other players,,, why do you think the other players have a right to try and disrupt it?? it'd be like booing during the anthems! rugby is at its best when it's respectful and multicultural, go watch football if you want divas and racists...
other teams do have similar pre-game rituals. as i said in the other comment on this thread, it's cultural, much like our national anthems, so if you want a game without multiculturalism go watch football instead @@suficer7827
@@jaseyraeoak I just think teams should be able to do what the french team did and stand shoulder to shoulder right in front of their haka. They're doing the haka to try and throw you off your game why can't you do the same back? I'm not saying you should be allowed to shout and jeer at them while they're doing it but the rule that you need to be behind the halfway line is stupid.
I've been sick of the haha and it's special treatment for soo long now. If the kiwis wanna do their little dance then opponent's shouldn't be forced to pay attention to it.
Im not a fan of rugby, not because I dislike it (actually few matches I saw, were entertaining), but in my country the only sport is football. So, what is the problem between NZ and England? (The hakka)
Until then I always believed that rugby was very much about respect. What England is showing is clear and highly disrespectful, and I even believe that they, and especially Joe Marler, wanted to show it that way.
I'd forgotten about all of these rugby moments that will never be forgotten. Thanks for reminding me .
That Sexton kick came on the 41st phase?? Holy cow. The discipline.
L'essai de la France par Penaud est peut être l'un des plus beau jamais marqué !
Une pure merveille de justesse et de fluidité !
Van der Merwe's try still gives me goosebumps. Epic try!
That try from Italy and that match from France against England are already part of rugby history.
If New Zealand get to perform the Haka, why can’t England perform Morris Dancing before every match?
The scene of the French advancing in front of the haka is frome the 2007 WC (followed by French victory). Their was no rule against it at the time. (The fact about the 2011 fine is correct, it's just not the correct video. The 2011 event was a lot more like the England one). I hate that rule, it sucks that teams just have to sit there while islanders are allowed their thing (which I love).
Agreed teams must have the right to respond
it's an incredibly significant cultural act that connects them with generations of other players,,, why do you think the other players have a right to try and disrupt it?? it'd be like booing during the anthems! rugby is at its best when it's respectful and multicultural, go watch football if you want divas and racists... though it wouldn't be surprising when you call them 'islanders' so derogatorily
@@jaseyraeoak I think its the right to respond not disrupt that is needed.
@@FearlessOnFourWheels why? what is the english cultural equivalent of this historic practice? maybe the scots, irish, welsh, they at least have celtic culture to draw from, and the samoans, tongans and many other pacific nations already have their own equivalents. if there was culture to form a response from it's not one that needs respecting in my personal opinion; nevertheless, the responses shown here only reflect a lack of respect which rugby should be better than, as enforced by fines...
@@jaseyraeoak I NEVER said disrupt, I would just love to see more of what France did in 2007, which was just getting closer as kind of a challenge. I get that the haka has cultural significance but it doesn't happen in a vacuum, I don't find it very fair to make the opposing players just sit there while the other team is making threatening faces and gestures towards them.
English is not my first langage so I'm sorry if there's anything derogatory in 'islanders', it's certainly not my intention and you will notice that I said 'islanders - which I love'.
England one will always be special as they backed it up and dominated the ABs.
And got dominated by the boks
of course bro has to ruin it, England absolutely destroyed the kiwis and aussies
@@christiaancoetzee4127yea while SA were playing Japan and Wales, England were busy with Aus and NZ. Something SA likes to forget.
@thesnoopmeistersnoops5167 and new Zealand but england are bottle jobs
The fact New Zealand get such special treatment with the Haka is stupid, if they are allowed to do a battle cry the opposition should be allowed to respnd
They can, you just cant go over the halfway point, its not special to the haka, thats just the rules LOL
Could have put in some of Brian Lima's hits.....Guy was a tank!
True. I was shocked when he got almost knocked out when he tackled Andre Pretorius in the 2007 World Cup.
Were is the Munster haka against New Zealand. It was a good .
why should you get fined for anything that isnt physical towards the haka, no one instigated anything
Why does the haka get special rules and protections? Why should teams have to stand there in reverance to what is a war dance intended to intimidate? Dont get me wrong I love it, but responses/disrespect should be encouraged, all part of the fun right?
Tell us what we missed !
Debaty try vs england
La rochelle come back in championscup final
Ntamack vs all blacks
Une question pour les Nations de l'hémisphère Sud sont avantagés par les arbitres .
Ça s'est vu à plusieurs reprises. A la dernière coupe du Monde c'était flagrant avec les baisés de service , la France et l'Angleterre avec le même arbitre .
yeap
0:41 that try isn't real, amazing breakthruogh
Why do we have to pay a fine because the opposite team want to do a little angry sing song dance?
it's an incredibly significant cultural act that connects them with generations of other players,,, why do you think the other players have a right to try and disrupt it?? it'd be like booing during the anthems! rugby is at its best when it's respectful and multicultural, go watch football if you want divas and racists...
@@jaseyraeoakthe haha is a challenge a opposite team should be able to challenge back
@@jaseyraeoakI have a new Zealand friend who criticised an England player for challenging the kiwi hocker during the Haka, he said "it's our culture". I said "no it's not, it's the culture of the indigenous people of New Zealand, most of the players were not of indigenous descent. It's stolen culture". Ban the Haka, I say. Get on with the game.
Don't watch it then you silly little racist
@@rogan6947 whats racist about not wanting to some silly dance?. Why do you watch rugby? Go watch come dancing.
You get fined for going up to New Zealand when they do the Haka what a load of old poo
Yeah, I find that a tad irritating. They (NZ) can do their thing but the opposite team can't do one back, it's a no no. If one team can do it then the other should be able to do one back, as long as no fighting is done. Maybe the other team should just ignore and practice in their half or something, just to say FU lol.
it's an incredibly significant cultural act that connects them with generations of other players,,, why do you think the other players have a right to try and disrupt it?? it'd be like booing during the anthems! rugby is at its best when it's respectful and multicultural, go watch football if you want divas and racists...
other teams do have similar pre-game rituals. as i said in the other comment on this thread, it's cultural, much like our national anthems, so if you want a game without multiculturalism go watch football instead @@suficer7827
@@suficer7827 do you also get F off when tonga fiji or samoa do their "thing" or are you just another random nz-hater
@@jaseyraeoak I just think teams should be able to do what the french team did and stand shoulder to shoulder right in front of their haka. They're doing the haka to try and throw you off your game why can't you do the same back?
I'm not saying you should be allowed to shout and jeer at them while they're doing it but the rule that you need to be behind the halfway line is stupid.
Why is it on offence to go over half way while the Hakka is going on
falta la defensa de los pumas vs irlanda 1999
Did John Smit use "Pratley Putty" South African moon glue on his hands?
£15,000 England rugby were fined
you mean there is a rule that protects the Haka
En avant !!! Quand les arbitres vont-ils siffler ces fautes !!! Inadmissibles
I've been sick of the haha and it's special treatment for soo long now. If the kiwis wanna do their little dance then opponent's shouldn't be forced to pay attention to it.
Why is a rugby whistle so annoying!! It’s not a proper “peep”!!
🙌🙌
Yep big fines here when we have visiters come to New Zealand and soil in our camping grounds parking areas and banned from entering again
Im not a fan of rugby, not because I dislike it (actually few matches I saw, were entertaining), but in my country the only sport is football. So, what is the problem between NZ and England? (The hakka)
There isn't one. It's all made up by fans of neither team.
Estoy viendo jugadas del 6 naciones que en el mundial sobre todo los nz han hecho muy muy peores y no han pitado nada
Chabal is hungry he want to eat little kiwi
u good buddy
3:53 just 2 englands geys get kised
Chabal à faim il veut manger des kiwis
6 minutos y solo equipos europeos? basura del viejo mundo.
Until then I always believed that rugby was very much about respect. What England is showing is clear and highly disrespectful, and I even believe that they, and especially Joe Marler, wanted to show it that way.
Pathetic.
Une danse guerrière pour du sport,
Du grand n'importe quoi...!
C'est traditionnel et culturel ... C'était aussi utilisé comme marque diplomatique. Mais quand on ne connaît rien ...
New Zealand with their stupid Haka thing.
Don't watch it then you silly little racist
@@rogan6947 Yep, the stupid Haka thing.