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The Xbox Two Podcast is back and this week Rand & Jez will be talking about all the drama surrounding The Game Awards 2023, with Starfield and Hi-Fi Rush not getting a GOTY nomination is there such a thing as Xbox Tax, NVIDIA GForce and Xbox announce a big partnership for Xbox Game Pass, Xbox has some leadership changes and how will AI shape the future of gaming and so much more!!
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Timestamps
Getting ready to go live 0:00
Intro and Housekeeping 7:11
Jez updated thoughts on Series S 23:20
Gta 6 trailer release date, Mike Ybarra interview and micro-transactions discussion 31:10
Remakes vs new IPs 1:07:00
Console third party preference 1:15:45
Rand impressions on MW3 and Robocop 1:32:00
TGA and Xbox tax? 2:02:50
TLoU2 remastered leak 2:48:50
Kotor cancelled and Xbox leadership changes 2:58:50
Patreon Questions and Closing 3:01:25
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Timestamps
Getting ready to go live 0:00
Intro and Housekeeping 7:11
Jez updated thoughts on Series S 23:20
Gta 6 trailer release date, Mike Ybarra interview and micro-transactions discussion 31:10
Remakes vs new IPs 1:07:00
Console third party preference 1:15:45
Rand impressions on mw3 1:32:00
TGA and Xbox tax? 2:02:50
TLoU2 remastered leak 2:48:50
Kotor cancelled and xbox leadership changes 2:58:50
Patreon Questions and Closing 3:01:25
Rand you nailed what the Xbox tax is .
Totally agree with Rand that Hi-Fi Rush should have got a game of the year nod. Perhaps even "Best Direction"(?) too. It did everything right, was a new IP and on top of that came from a studio (Tango) who are best known for an entirely different genre of games. Seems like the right kind of game to recognise to encourage developers and publishers to not rely on sequels...
If Hi-Fi Rush was published by Nintendo then it would have been most nominated game this year
The thing about around the Xbox tax discussion that is frustrating is that some people redirect the conversation to be around there not being some grand conspiracy where the media agrees to hold down Xbox. They shift it to that extreme in order to defend what has clearly been going on.
Microsoft should just buy major publishers and Xbox tax will be irrelevant because Xbox will have all the major gaming IPs in the world.
That's because we don't have a united front on what it means. Comments under this video are a good illustration of that.
I completely agree with you on the quantum break situation, since i also loved btw, but i think it got some extra mud because everybody was asking for alan wake 2 and we got it instead.
If Hi Fi Rush is a PS exclusive not only does it have a higher meta now, but it certainly gets a GOTY nod.
Idk why but i really like how Jez says the word "Controversy" lol That British accent is top tier
Quantum Break is the best game on gamepass go play it. 10/10.
What has been bothering me about this whole AI thing and gaming and the controversy.... Why do you never hear jack shit about Procedural Generation?? That is a version of AI... But you never hear anything bad about that, and people losing jobs.
What did you expect? In this podcast, they talk about how well Xbox is doing and bad PS news.
You are giving games media way too much benefit of the doubt by saying their “Xbox tax” is not intentional lol
They look down on Xbox, both intentionally and not.
They definitely have bad intentions and know exactly what they are doing when they review bomb games and over critique everything.
The BAFTA Game Awards are judged via peer review/other game developers. I THINK this is the only kinda big one that does this so far outside of the DICE awards.
Lol y’all completely took the Metro High Fi Rush review quote out of context.
“The software situation on Xbox is considerably different than the Switch though and Hi-Fi Rush has not been ignored. Which is a good job because it's the best exclusive on Xbox Series X.
Admittedly, that's not saying much, given this is also the first Xbox Series X exclusive to be published by Microsoft themselves. The wasteland that has been the Xbox release schedules for the last few years limits the accolades we can give the game but it's a breath of fresh air for Xbox gamers, developer Tango Gameworks, and the rhythm action genre as a whole.”
What they meant is that it’s not much of an accolade to award High Fi Rush as “the best Xbox Series first party game” when there wasn’t much to begin with.
Most people play third party multi-platform games. There is a reason playstation exclusives are in decline
Xbox Tax is 100% real, the snubs show it and Geoff has shown his bias time and time again
Thank you Rand for stating something that gets overlooked a lot. Quantum Break was better then Control. I couldn’t even get into Control and I love Remedy Games. Quantum Break had a better story, better performances and overall was more fun
Rand is so right. Hi-Fi Rush was the real GOTY snub this year. Xbox tax is real tbh
@@xboxhasnogames2666you seem like an objective source in this
Just accept the fact that you are always going to see atleast one exclusive playstation game and one exclusive Nintendo game nominated for GOTY at TGA every year. Microsoft has to be ruthless if it wants recognition in the gaming industry. Phil Spencer's useless interviews to these outlets don't do anything for Xbox.
Diablo 4 is. Rated higher than half the games on the list by the same critcs that voted. what changed since they reviewed the game? Microsoft owns the IP now.
@@xxxshinomorixxx Xbox tax is absolutely real
I like how PlayStations Live Service initiative has failed and we haven't seen them release a single Live Service game. Games media is a dumpster fire.
I played three games: Spider man 1 Morales and 2 within a month, i can understand why IGN and GS give it 8/10. I even don't think it can be nominated.
HiFi Rush got 9/10 from IGN and GS. Even 10/10 from ign JAPAN and NME . Just like fresh air, there is no excessive promotion, Just a profect fusion of creativity and pop culture elements. Let us know all the joy that video games can bring. it got 5 nominations but not being nominated GOTY,What will our gaming industry become in the future if we do not encourage games like this, More super hero game in the future? Will the Oscars nominate Best pic for the The Avengers? It's hard for me to accept, what's wrong with TGA?
TGA caters to lowest common denominator. It will never be equivalent of Oscars.
Also just accept the fact that you are always going to see atleast one exclusive playstation game and one exclusive Nintendo game nominated for GOTY at TGA every year. Microsoft has to be ruthless if it wants recognition in the gaming industry. Phil Spencer's useless interviews to these outlets don't do anything for Xbox.
I'm amazed Jez and Rand can be so incredulous about xbox bias. I mean these same games media constantly ask over and over why or when starfield or other exclusives r coming to Playstation. Like even when u own a company xb is not allowed to have exclusives. When FF16 comes out exclusive, crickets
Microsoft has to be ruthless to bring these games journalists to their knees and only way to do that is through acquisitions.
2:44:49 it’s not, spider-mid 2 would’ve gotten 4s by default as it’s the only first party Sony release this year.
Everytime I leave RUclips on while I'm trying to sleep, I somehow always wake up to a video from you guys so uh...Hi from some confused person who just woke up?
F this game of the year awards show. I don’t watch it never had and don’t care. All I know about it is that Geoff guy professed his love on air to that Asian guy who made Metal Gear Solid. That’s not my cup of tea. If you all like that then enjoy. I don’t feel to watch a show where a dude professes his love for another dude. Hard pass for me.
Keighley should be fired or replaced or we should just hope that game awards is dead. It's basically marketing platform for Nintendo and Playstation games
Great show.
But no Rand.
Quantum Break wasn't better than Control. Both are excellent games, but Control is something else.
only reason he say that because its xbox game
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Timestamps
Getting ready to go live 0:00
Intro and Housekeeping 7:11
Jez updated thoughts on Series S 23:20
Gta 6 trailer release date, Mike Ybarra interview and micro-transactions discussion 31:10
Remakes vs new IPs 1:07:00
Console third party preference 1:15:45
Rand impressions on MW3 and Robocop 1:32:00
TGA and Xbox tax? 2:02:50
TLoU2 remastered leak 2:48:50
Kotor cancelled and Xbox leadership changes 2:58:50
Patreon Questions and Closing 3:01:25
About CoD MW3 i dont get who buys the Game for the Campaign it always was short MW2 was 6-8 Hours. It wasnt good i only played it because there was the early accsess for it.I am an Main MP Player and the MP is the best in a long time. The Maps sure are remasters but great, the movment and weapons are awesome. They already did 2 events with free stuff and Season 1 looking very good. And people always complain about CoD when you have lost all Stuff like skins,levels,Camos every year and know everything carried over they are still complaining. Greetings from Germany
53:50 The fact that this is actually the business model for most webtoon and Asian comic readers 😅
Xbox needs to make bulletproof games, I'll believe in the existence of the Xbox Tax when they make a game on the level of TOTK and BG3 and it doesn't get nominated for GOTY.
Let's be real for a second...
Without the prospect of "world premiere announcements", the show would be a complete bust, with truly the only award people would even remotely give a shit about being "GOTY" and maybe something like "Best new IP", a category that doesn't even exist btw.
The Oscars ratings have fallen off a cliff and at least give them credit, they don't use the Oscars to drop trailers for the next big movie coming out next year.
TGA's would be the Oscars without the celebrity worship our society indulges in, it wouldn't be in anyone's mind until the next day, when gaming sites talk about the winners.
Keighley should just retire. He has created a platform for console warriors.
I picked up the Limited Edition OLED Steam Deck.
After having my ASUS TUF Gaming Laptop, my TUF Gaming 4090, and my ROG Strix X670E-E Gaming Pro WiFi all die within 2yrs I'm not buying another ASUS product. They have serious QA issues. I still have their routers in my house, hopefully they don't die anytime soon smdh...
RAND is 100% correct on xbox tax theory. ps. Spiderman not game of the year. Hogwarts is.
Hogwarts was magical for the first 4-6 hours or so, but after that, it was just bland and repetitive.
@@htasker8 Same can be said for Spider-Man 2
“You don’t season your food” is crazy 😭 lmfaooo
Control and Deathloop are probably the most overated games of the last years.
Not bad games but not the 10/10 or 9/10 they recieved.
Most overrated games are probably all the Mario and Zelda games. Even some mobile games are better than those games
If you act like you don't care about consoles or selling them, sorta can't be mad when ppl don't wanna review on them imo. Most reviewers prob have PCs for work anyway.
That was a very good definition of the Xbox Tax. Well said Rand. Loved that take and also great show.
An excellent explanation. It’s real and I’ve always explained it this way too. Xbox is an afterthought for the industry
@@anthonyOA I was not fully aware of Xbox tax but after observing the gaming media for last two years I can factually say Xbox tax is real.
I might tune in on this if there is nothing from Rockstar yet. It wouldnt be suprising if this is where it would happen because of Microsoft absolutely wanting to own the marketing and being on the strongest console.
Well well well... All u remember when rand was talking crap about shitty achievments and people who are playing this $5 games with 1000G in 20min? I got rand on my friend list on xbox and I have to sadly admitt that our "millionaire" is plying those shitty games (1000G in 2min!!!) and what is worse - he is playing with guide from begin. Time I have to spend in the games is nearly doubled to max. Also. When we have to deal with hard bangers like Cuphead - our rand cant finish that on 1000G. Sorry mate, truth hurts.
19 inches of lillith is insanebdjfkfkkffj 56:00
Just finished Spiderman 2 and i gotta say what a game thoe and i am an xbox guy it deserves it honestly its not going to win but its a great game my game of the year so far
Meh
43:40 thank you Rand, someone with a brain. No GTA did not come with online and it sucked too!
Funny how paul tassi just hand waves legitimate proof of the Xbox tax.
Is Paul Tassi anti-xbox?
There is no Xbox tax. It’s just the majority of the games industry doesn’t view Xbox as high quality as it’s competitors. Xbox fans gotta get over other people not agreeing that the games they overhype are as good as they hype them to be
Robocop is Awesome !
Oh my god! Rand's take on the game awards and Xbox tax was absolutely breathtaking. So insightful and elegant. Bravo my man.
Gaming outlet to avoid if you're a Xbox fan as follows: gamerant, gaming bolt, IGNorant, tech radar and all playstation centric media outlet who throw out unnecessary hate and bias towards Xbox and Microsoft.
Add Polygon to that list too, just listen to what Rand says at 2:35:05
And eurogamer
IGN actually elected Forza Horizon 5 its Game of the Year 2021...
Add PC Gamer and Kotaku to that
100% Gamerant in particular is absolute hot garbage.
There’s no “campaign” for BO3. The bullshit they came up with doesn’t count.
damage control podcast
Also I disagree that Xbox tax is real because people don’t play sea of thieves/ halo infinite. If people don’t care enough about those games to play them or stick with them then they don’t deserve recognition
I did not like either game honestly but control was far better than Quantum Break. Quantum Break was not good at all.
I like your podcast because you do not interupt each other.
ROG Ally works amazing for Diablo 4, man.
I love that for the last 10 years when Xbox fails to meet expectations it’s ALWAYS someone else’s fault. Or some bias against the company. Now it’s Xbox tax… you guys have to STOP making excuses for this company or they will never improve
RAND DOESN'T SEASON HIS FOOD...
His opinion officially doesn't count after knowing that.
Hi Fi rush is great, but it's no game of the year!
Rand
FH5 20mil players
Starfield 11mil
Sea of Thieves 30mil
Potter 15mil players
Hi Fi Rush 3mil players
Gamepass 30mil.subs, all msft games on PC, xbox and in gamepass with lowest price entry point.
Yet all games above were snubbed for bias and political reasons
Millions of downloads means that Rand's argument that not enough reviewers or games media or community has NOT played xbox games so that is reason for unintentional bias does not hold water.
Diablo 4 sold 10mil on all platforms, it became a msft game in October and somehow could not make best rpg nomination.
Highly rated game Diablo 4. Starfield 83 console 87 pc, Highly rated.
Potter Highly rated
Diablo 4 Highly rated
All critical and commercial success and mostly if not completely snubbed at vga.
FH5 actually has 34 million players
Just accept the fact that you are always going to see atleast one exclusive playstation game and one exclusive Nintendo game nominated for GOTY at TGA every year. Microsoft has to be ruthless if it wants recognition in the gaming industry. Phil Spencer's useless interviews to these outlets don't do anything for Xbox. Microsoft should buy EA or Take-Two next if they want to be dominant force in the industry.
Major Nelson said it in an interview. Xbox is measured by a diff stick . I don't think it has anything to do with most people not being on Xbox. Because when they do play Xbox game it still doesn't get a fair shot. Fair is fair. And Xbox doesn't get a fair shot that the Xbox tax . Because if u in the industry to judge games . U judge the games. It's like when the reviewer said they not gonna score hi fi rush high because Xbox didn't release games in the past . Tax is real....the Wii u sold 13 million consoles and they games still was rated well when they was good ..
Just accept the fact that you are always going to see atleast one exclusive playstation game and one exclusive Nintendo game nominated for GOTY at TGA every year. Microsoft has to be ruthless if it wants recognition in the gaming industry. Phil Spencer's useless interviews to these outlets don't do anything for Xbox.
@@anaruenoha9920 your not wrong . They gonna have to do
.or keep doing what they doing . Like matt booty said spend them outta business. Ms gonna have to continue to buy up devs to where every game in the nom is a Xbox game lol
@@spectrexr1 That is the only way Xbox can be dominant force in industry that is acquisition. All this nice and friendly guy gimmick from Microsoft only makes the Xbox brand look weaker.
@@anaruenoha9920 I agree. I hated that in the Xbox one gen when they had no games and Phil would congratulate Sony on some shit. But they don't do that shit no more lol Phil always gonna be the nice guy that's his image. But he ain't so nice when he told them don't put starfield redfall etc on PS5. Long as they do shit like that . Nice guy Phil don't bother me. Long as he making moves to make Xbox stronger . Which he been doing . But still dogshit to see Xbox not get the credit they deserve. If they get they hate give them the credit too ya know
@@spectrexr1 You will never ever see games media give credit to Xbox especially for games.
When Rand was talking about CoD and how Sledge Hammer only had 16 months to create this game...
I am very surprised that they did not mention anything about Xbox wanting Activision to put out CoD as a full game instead of a DLC, because Sony had marketing rights for one more CoD GAME. A DLC might not have covered their contract, and we all know Xbox can't wait for Sony to lose those marketing rights for CoD.
Rand did mention that TreyArch is going to have had 4 years to create next years CoD... But he also did not mention aaaaanything about TreyArch being the studio that actually created this years Zombies mode. That is a 1/3 of this years CoD game so that had to really help Sledge Hammer and take a bit away from next years dev time.
Really? Damn..is their a source where I could look up that info about Xbox wanting COD to be released as a full game and not DLC to screw over Sony? Just so I can get the full picture.. I googled it but couldn't find anything
@@ItzMeWillI don't believe there is a credible source because it's speculation and conjecture. It's logical but it also ignores the fact that ABK acted as an independent company until the day the deal went through as legally required. This game had been annouced as a stand alone game well before the ABK deal finalised. While it may suit Xbox, they had absolutely no say in whether the game was DLC or stand alone. At most they could have voiced an opinion. People like to pin the blame on Xbox but in reality this was on Bobby Kotick and his team.
I feel like if Activision wasn’t owned by Microsoft yet and Modern Warfare 3 came out you’d make excuses for it. So what it was bad. More reason they needed to be bought by Microsoft. Spider-Man was a bug fest and I don’t hear you complaining about it. You all say people make excuses for PlayStation and Nintendo games that suck. And here Rand is doing what he accuses others of doing. I’m a Xbox and PC user only. Had PlayStations up to 4. I got sick of PlayStation and I won’t buy another. I don’t even like their games. I mean how many fingers God of wars can you play. Now he’s doing day care. I thought he was a badass who didn’t care. He’s turned into a P. Maybe I don’t understand you guys because you like both platforms. I understand Jen has to because he has to write about everything. But I think so of Microsoft’s problem is its own users. It users who claim to be diehard fans attack their own favorite game maker. I get criticism to improve the platform. But it seems like some so called Xbox users attack Xbox as much as PlayStation fanboys do. Just an opinion. I maybe right or wrong. Just how I feel😊
Rand take off the tinfoil hat
I think it looks good on him 🤷♀️
Tbh this year the game awards were on point, as a massive Bethesda fan Starfield was underwhelming. It didn't provide you that urgency to explore like Skyrim or Oblivion which I consider two of the greatest games of all time,it had surface level exploration. There were some laughable decisions tho in rpevious years like 2019 were Disco Elysium didn't even get nominated for goty,2020 were ori also wasn't nominated...
Ori is far better than any Nintendo game but it doesn't have Nintendo branding.
That sure was a long rant to not care about the game awards.
Game awards is pure garbage
@@anaruenoha9920 maybe so. But it’s still a long spiel to not care about something. 🤷🏻♂️
@@holddamayo7474 Everyone should avoid game awards like plague
Hifi rush was a shoe horned in game by Microsoft. There's no way hifi rush should get that many nominations and hogwarts gets no presence at all. Considering the news we just got in that 50% of the hifi rush playerbase hasn't even beaten the first mission yet.
why does he keep comming up in my autoplay
bro i dont even like this stuff
Dude same l fall asleep watching youtube and I wake up and this shit is all in my watched history and I don’t watch any gaming videos.
Hogwarts lagacy is the game which gonna be sold more than 30 million+ easily.
It's a down right a travesty it didn't get nominated. They nailed it. Especially from a no name studio.
Never cared for GTA or saw why others love it. You can charge $0 or put it in game pass it won't matter I still won't touch it. Same for assassins
Also I'm with rand, never brought a microtransacrion but I do season my food.
Do you like souls games?
Not a single mention of xboxs ridiculous third party accessory ban
What did you expect? In this podcast, they talk about how well Xbox is doing and bad PS news. 💀
I think they talked about it last week
I'm convinced Jez has no idea what nostalgia means
@@xboxhasnogames2666 Neither do you
Nerds
Oh my God Jen is getting a push from Microsoft. Jen is shilling for the Series S. lol. Just kidding actually I want to read this article Jen wrote now. I like the Series S but I prefer my Series X and PC. But I do think Series S is good. And Microsoft needs to bring more people into the fold. Personally I think a Microsoft handheld would be the answer. Let SteamDeck do the low power end of Handhelds and Microsoft do the high power end. Don’t compete with Steam. Just existing in the same world and complement each other. Going head to head with Steam will make enemies for Microsoft. But if they work together respecting each others strengths and weaknesses people would respect Microsoft. With Microsoft making all the new games with all these first parties they now have Microsoft will need to bring more people into the fold. What’s the point of having all these games if no one buys them. So I agree appeal to the series X community and make a handheld community. Microsoft’s tag line was play where you want how you want. I say make the series S into a handheld. Give me more reason to buy another one. Because I sold my S and keep my X. And built a PC with a 4090
Xbox tax is 100 percent real. Most game journalists have bias against Xbox games and that is evident through game awards nominations and winners. Keighley is the worst thing to happen to the gaming industry. I hope Microsoft buys more game publishers to make Playstation and Nintendo brand almost irrelevant
I'm glad you are back, and it wasn't the "Clap".
The clap doesn’t really make you sick like that…
@@thedoncjg6263 you are correct. The clap is too spicy for Rand
I would happily pay extra for GTA. R* is in a class of its own.
Rand, you need to play Dave The Diver before you question it as hard as you are.... Yes I know it is funded by a bigger company, but you questioned How Dave the Diver was nominated as an indie. I think if you played it, you might understand a bit more.
Kinda funny that he went on to say no one plays any games, when he hasn't played Dave the Diver haha
I think that "indie game" should always mean a game made by independent devs (not owned by anyone).
I understand the confusion about what games are indie or not, especially regarding games being published by massive publishers, but It's really about ownership of the studio and where the funding is coming from.
If Neil Druckman picked up 20 Naughty Dog devs and made a 5 hour long, 2D Jak and Dexter game, that game wouldn't be considered indie,
@@LaztstaNd Which makes BG3 an indie game. They are majority (70%) owned by a husband and wife team with a 30% minority share for Tencent. Also no publisher.
Is there a award for best new game? If not they need that