I have the urge to play paper but its mostly to have the cards themselves. Having a physical product, even just normal rarity cards, would be more than enough for me. But I still dont want to deal with the hassle of buying the cards from a third party seller.
You could always buy packs, or boxes. But the best way to start is to probably go to your locals and pick a cheap structure deck. Unfortunately Yugioh doesn't really make their Structure decks playable out of the box, and you'd need to buy 3 copies, but they are $10-$15 bucks each. I'd recommend Fire Kings, Dark World or Trap Tricks. Many of the newer structure decks give you staples like Imperm, Droll, Ash, Solemn Judgment etc. So it's a good way to start playing for cheaper. If you can find the 2023 tins cheap ($8-$10 per tin). I'd grab a case or 2 of those. You get pretty strong deck cores like Bystials, Labyrinth, Runick, Kashtira, Exosister, Therion, Dinomorphia, Libromancer and a few more that I can't remember. I wouldn't pay full price with the 2024 tins around the corner though, but at a discount it's a good set to start your collection off. If you're in the US then TCGPlayer is a good place to pick up rarity collection 1 and 2 singles, and build up a staples binder. If you can wait then I'd start with the Fire Kings structure deck, then pick up the snake eye package from the 2024 tins.
Funny how my friend and I were talking about this. He collects pokemon and plays the online simulator similar to master duel. He recently got me back into collecting pokemon because the cost for yugioh is just too high to buy actual cards and play in person. I love how pokemon will have the same card across different rarities to make it very affordable to play as opposed to yugioh that will rarity lock new meta archetype staples into one high rarity slot. I just watched pokemon's worlds and it made me want to actually go play competitively and I can afford it. Whereas with yugioh I got that itch too but I look at the price of decks and Im like oh yah no lol. Im really happy for master duel though because without it I would probably never play yugioh.
A big company like konami can't even do the bare minimum, they don't even need to do cash prizing they could've just done this. But yeah they really are cheap af just milking their playerbase. - Alt art playable meta relevant prize card. - a box of the latest set. - transportation and accomodation to the next ycs or worlds qualifier.
Depends on your location. Here in the OCG, he is expensive but not the price that you are paying. He’s 15 USD a copy here in the Philippines but TCG printing made him 100 USD a copy.
I know this is wildly different, but my friend plays Fortnite professionally. Obvs a “free to play” game. He recently won 10k at the Saudi tournament for his team coming (I think) 5th. Game designers for Fortnite capped that prize pool too. Consider there is no in real life purchasable items for that game like in YuGiOh, it strikes me so bizarre how different this is. Also interesting to me is how Pokémon, which has a TCG competitive scene for its primary prize pool, still has a very heavily funded VGC too (50k vs 30k for 1st place), which is more than you’d expect from yugioh, but still competitive (ish) with a game like Fortnite somehow.
You can combat this one way or the other. You can bring the OCG model to the TCG (which literally helps everyone) and make it so (as Joshua Schmidt pointed out) and entire set of Rage of the Abyss is as cheap as 3 Fiendsmith Engravers, or you can give us actual prizing. We can't keep cycling through $1000+ tier 0 decks just to ban them out and release another one. For the "you'll never top a YCS so why do you care" crowd, it's literally a barrier to entry. Hex is a beast of a player and won't re-join the TCG over stuff like this. If I get back into it I'll question the same thing, why bother trying? For the defenders of Kazuki Takahashi's "no cash prizing" It's okay to admit he was wrong and his idea didn't create a game like this either. Fix it or lose market share.
Some great points in this vid. I think the worst thing to me about the TCG is that awful ban list. Master Duel has so many pros to it but one of the biggest drawing points for me was a less restrictive ban list that imo makes more sense too
100% agree, I'm really not a big fan of TCG ban list philosophy or the fact that TCG players celebrate it. The default solution should not be to nuke a deck into the ground with bans that only get undone 5 years later.
The TCG literally doesn't know what they're doing. They had chances to reprint Trident Dragion and Ritual Tamer Elder to promote the new decks that they failed to capitalize on, somehow Master Duel released more of the new Sky Striker cards before they did(they STILL don't have Camellia by this point?!) keeping the deck unviable in the TCG(despite still being only Rogue in MD), and every set where they remove the affordable OCG rarity of a card to push the highest rarity variant(or worse, rarity bump a strong OCG deck that ends up doing far less in TCG's custom format) further continues to feed my disgust. Prizing is only really a big deal because of how expensive it is to even play the game before even considering issues like travel and lodging Konami rarely foots the expenses for. Topping should at mimium cover the cost of entry, but the cost of building a top deck means you're lucky if you have enough left over to even participate in anything, especially if your nearest Regional is at least half a day's travel away. And a lot of these deck costs come from a combination of factors that I've probably only scratched the surface on since I refuse to enter any major event as long as a majority of these current issues exist, nevermind the ones I missed.
At this point, people should understand that YGO isn't and never will be the same as any form of sports or esports. Sure, it's a competitive game, but improving your skill at playing it requires only a small amount of effort compared to sports and esports in general. Simply put, anyone can be good at playing YGO. Because of this, it's difficult for me to have sympathy for pro players like Jess when they complain about receiving various rewards that contain a small amount of value after spending hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars on practicing for higher level competitive events and traveling to various countries in order to participate in them. If they're really concerned about receiving some form of reimbursement after participating in those competitive events, even though they consciously made the decision to pay for travel and other expenses (and many of them knew about prizing being as terrible as it is for years), then they shouldn't have made the aforementioned decisions in the first place. To clarify, I'm not arguing that prizing is fine as it is. It should be better, but pro players should take accountability for their own decisions and learn that they will never make a career out of playing card games (which is actually their primary reason for migrating to other card games like One Piece and Lorcana).
It’s up to you and your opponent to have the memory for your game. Plain and simple, if you activated it then you best remember otherwise it may bite you in the ass.
I have the urge to play paper but its mostly to have the cards themselves. Having a physical product, even just normal rarity cards, would be more than enough for me. But I still dont want to deal with the hassle of buying the cards from a third party seller.
You could always buy packs, or boxes. But the best way to start is to probably go to your locals and pick a cheap structure deck. Unfortunately Yugioh doesn't really make their Structure decks playable out of the box, and you'd need to buy 3 copies, but they are $10-$15 bucks each. I'd recommend Fire Kings, Dark World or Trap Tricks. Many of the newer structure decks give you staples like Imperm, Droll, Ash, Solemn Judgment etc. So it's a good way to start playing for cheaper.
If you can find the 2023 tins cheap ($8-$10 per tin). I'd grab a case or 2 of those. You get pretty strong deck cores like Bystials, Labyrinth, Runick, Kashtira, Exosister, Therion, Dinomorphia, Libromancer and a few more that I can't remember. I wouldn't pay full price with the 2024 tins around the corner though, but at a discount it's a good set to start your collection off. If you're in the US then TCGPlayer is a good place to pick up rarity collection 1 and 2 singles, and build up a staples binder.
If you can wait then I'd start with the Fire Kings structure deck, then pick up the snake eye package from the 2024 tins.
Get 3 structure decks
Funny how my friend and I were talking about this. He collects pokemon and plays the online simulator similar to master duel. He recently got me back into collecting pokemon because the cost for yugioh is just too high to buy actual cards and play in person. I love how pokemon will have the same card across different rarities to make it very affordable to play as opposed to yugioh that will rarity lock new meta archetype staples into one high rarity slot. I just watched pokemon's worlds and it made me want to actually go play competitively and I can afford it. Whereas with yugioh I got that itch too but I look at the price of decks and Im like oh yah no lol. Im really happy for master duel though because without it I would probably never play yugioh.
A big company like konami can't even do the bare minimum, they don't even need to do cash prizing they could've just done this. But yeah they really are cheap af just milking their playerbase.
- Alt art playable meta relevant prize card.
- a box of the latest set.
- transportation and accomodation to the next ycs or worlds qualifier.
That's right bro , tell those tcg players to enjoy playing there new max c ( mulcharmy)😂😂
Here for me. If I would start on TCG now.
3 "The Fiendsmith" is more than 1 month of minimum wage
Depends on your location. Here in the OCG, he is expensive but not the price that you are paying. He’s 15 USD a copy here in the Philippines but TCG printing made him 100 USD a copy.
@@patricktan4096 can I play a OCG card in a TCG region?
@Nakata2021 this is konami 😂😂 of course not.
@@wbrodie55 than you agree with me that OCG prices means shit for a TCG player, right 😁
I know this is wildly different, but my friend plays Fortnite professionally. Obvs a “free to play” game. He recently won 10k at the Saudi tournament for his team coming (I think) 5th. Game designers for Fortnite capped that prize pool too. Consider there is no in real life purchasable items for that game like in YuGiOh, it strikes me so bizarre how different this is.
Also interesting to me is how Pokémon, which has a TCG competitive scene for its primary prize pool, still has a very heavily funded VGC too (50k vs 30k for 1st place), which is more than you’d expect from yugioh, but still competitive (ish) with a game like Fortnite somehow.
You can combat this one way or the other.
You can bring the OCG model to the TCG (which literally helps everyone) and make it so (as Joshua Schmidt pointed out) and entire set of Rage of the Abyss is as cheap as 3 Fiendsmith Engravers, or you can give us actual prizing. We can't keep cycling through $1000+ tier 0 decks just to ban them out and release another one.
For the "you'll never top a YCS so why do you care" crowd, it's literally a barrier to entry. Hex is a beast of a player and won't re-join the TCG over stuff like this. If I get back into it I'll question the same thing, why bother trying?
For the defenders of Kazuki Takahashi's "no cash prizing" It's okay to admit he was wrong and his idea didn't create a game like this either. Fix it or lose market share.
Based take, besides shiny physical cardboard you can trade/sell i dont see much point in playing tcg
Some great points in this vid. I think the worst thing to me about the TCG is that awful ban list. Master Duel has so many pros to it but one of the biggest drawing points for me was a less restrictive ban list that imo makes more sense too
100% agree, I'm really not a big fan of TCG ban list philosophy or the fact that TCG players celebrate it. The default solution should not be to nuke a deck into the ground with bans that only get undone 5 years later.
The TCG literally doesn't know what they're doing. They had chances to reprint Trident Dragion and Ritual Tamer Elder to promote the new decks that they failed to capitalize on, somehow Master Duel released more of the new Sky Striker cards before they did(they STILL don't have Camellia by this point?!) keeping the deck unviable in the TCG(despite still being only Rogue in MD), and every set where they remove the affordable OCG rarity of a card to push the highest rarity variant(or worse, rarity bump a strong OCG deck that ends up doing far less in TCG's custom format) further continues to feed my disgust.
Prizing is only really a big deal because of how expensive it is to even play the game before even considering issues like travel and lodging Konami rarely foots the expenses for. Topping should at mimium cover the cost of entry, but the cost of building a top deck means you're lucky if you have enough left over to even participate in anything, especially if your nearest Regional is at least half a day's travel away. And a lot of these deck costs come from a combination of factors that I've probably only scratched the surface on since I refuse to enter any major event as long as a majority of these current issues exist, nevermind the ones I missed.
they still dont have camellia? wtf, i couldnt imagine playing sky striker without it
The fact is, you CAN be a “pro TCG player” without being a RUclipsr or twitch streamer, in almost every TCG, except Yugioh.
I didnt like yu gi oh before master duel because i havent payied for anything on here
Give pros 10000 dollars for worlds thats cheap compared to their profit i love yugioh
At this point, people should understand that YGO isn't and never will be the same as any form of sports or esports. Sure, it's a competitive game, but improving your skill at playing it requires only a small amount of effort compared to sports and esports in general. Simply put, anyone can be good at playing YGO. Because of this, it's difficult for me to have sympathy for pro players like Jess when they complain about receiving various rewards that contain a small amount of value after spending hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars on practicing for higher level competitive events and traveling to various countries in order to participate in them. If they're really concerned about receiving some form of reimbursement after participating in those competitive events, even though they consciously made the decision to pay for travel and other expenses (and many of them knew about prizing being as terrible as it is for years), then they shouldn't have made the aforementioned decisions in the first place.
To clarify, I'm not arguing that prizing is fine as it is. It should be better, but pro players should take accountability for their own decisions and learn that they will never make a career out of playing card games (which is actually their primary reason for migrating to other card games like One Piece and Lorcana).
People aren't asked to be fully compensated or paid a living wage we just want more than a Nintendo Switch LOL
4Head just don't compete, you sure wrote a whole lot for nothing
@@Stanky_Foot Or you could play the game competitively at any local LGS. It's not hard.
I don't know how someone can play a synchro deck on paper. If it says once per turn, how do they know which effect they already used up?
by remembering ?
It’s up to you and your opponent to have the memory for your game. Plain and simple, if you activated it then you best remember otherwise it may bite you in the ass.
First!!!