Why North Carolina Wants to Ban This Truck Mod
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The Carolina Squat. Cali Lean. Tennessee Tilt. All names for the most controversial car trend since "Stance". One state wants to put an end to the trend of lifting the front end of pickup trucks. North Carolina house bill 692 is slated to make squatted trucks, and its probably gonna work. But how? I've got some questions about this bill. I don't think it's as simple as it appears.
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In retrospect, I wish I used a full sized truck for our test, the results would have been more dramatic and reflected real world trends better, as squatted trucks are usually full sized. After reading your comments, it sounds like the headlights on these trucks have the biggest effect on other drivers, and do not sound like something I'd want to drive around.
If you want to track of HB 692's progress through the NC house legislature you can use this link right here: www.ncleg.gov/BillLookUp/2021/H692
As of June 30th the bill was re-referred to the senate committee on rules and operations. I expect HB 692 to become law later this summer.
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Can you guys do a video on the RPM Act? We need more awareness!
Someone mentioned this before in the comments
Looks like yall need a Money Pit series with a Ram 🐏
Also car bumpers are pretty ineffective if the truck can just barrel over the rear of a car and through the rear windshield.
Squatted trucks are really dangerous. Every time I see one, I laugh so hard I loose control of my car and swerve into oncoming traffic.
That's a you thing then
You just made my day
Oml
@@lonewolftech 🤣🤣
I agree but to the people who do like those pavement princesses,
I gotta say they aren’t the best looking thing out there, in Tennessee we have a thing in Pigeon Forge, called the Rod Run which is massive car show along the strip of the road. It’s been going on since the 70s.
Now being someone who enjoys classic cars and cruising around, I don’t mind what you do with your ride, your choice, but when your in a 85 Trans am with the windows down and t-tops out with your girlfriend, and there is a 2nd gen Dodge Ram squatted like a dog taking a dump with a straight pipe that’s just as obnoxiously loud as the junk rap music they blast through boat speakers, and headlights that are brighter than their owner, you tell me how you like it when the light turns green and they unload a ton of unburnt diesel into your car that you keep so nice, then you can tell me how much you like squatted trucks
Squatted trucks: for when you want all the downsides of a lifted truck, and all the downsides of a slammed truck, without the upsides of either.
lol, cant corner or go offroad. useless
@@0xsergy you can see the sun better
@@Goliath-Grouper ah yes, my retinas were feeling a bit chilly
😂😂😂Sums it up perfectly
Wonderful insight
I love how he says “I borrowed this truck from my buddy” when it’s actually low truck but he wasn’t allowed to announce that yet 😂
I especially appreciate how they tested the handling, headlight angle, and visibility of oncoming traffic at night.
I think handling isn't a strong case, plenty of other mods mess with handling in a way that is detrimental to day to day driving. Its a "can of worms" argument IMO. The headlight note and night visibility are HUGE concerns though that I think are fantastic to bring up. The headlights would be BLINDING everyone in oncoming traffic which creates a dangerous situation for EVERYONE on the road. add to the the fact the headlights would be doing little of their job and its a recipe for disaster. Though you can adjust most headlights, I doubt the stock adjustments would be able to make up for the change in angle. Good points.
It's already illegal in most places to have your headlights out of adjustment.
@@hays00s7also pedestrian safety a squatted truck would do a ton of damage if it hit someone
And how when they were comparing visibility they were holding the camera all the way up by the windshield and above the dash which negates half the effect on visibility.
@@jameson1239 Not wrong, just didn't cross my mind. BUUT, its not just damage, but visibility! I feel dumb, buddy of mine has a lowrider and likes to change stances on cruises. Back all the way up, front down, etc. Doesn't drive around front up and back down because you can't fucking SEE, lol. Same thing they are doing in lifted trucks.
Always hated people who did this, because the headlights become high beams 24/7.
and it creates an absolutely massive front blind spot for the person driving the truck.
Aswell as your line of sight is absolutely horrendous.
Not to mention in a crash instead of utilizing crumple zones a squatted truck would just drive over a smaller car, especially a Miata.
@Team Trubbish and how the truck was initially, most trucks ride substantially higher than an old Tacoma.
@Glasspack40 Not 24/7 by just using normal low-beams they're not.
Only time a truck should squat, is when it's hauling a heavy load.
THANK YOU! A true squat comes from a heavy ass load
Amen to that brother.
99.3% of people who drive trucks don't even haul anything ever.
Squat = 🏳️🌈
Or accelerating like a MOFO.
There's this, then also the headlights not being able to hit the road, the increased probability that a car rear ended by a squatted truck to go under the truck and crush occupants, and the increased chance for a role over are also important factors.
That's a danger with any lifted truck, but I don't see them outlawing those. Or banning motorcycles if safety is so much a concern to them.
@@mdemers767 It is because of all the dumb trucks that motorbikes are so unsafe! Going to ban bicycles too because the roads are unsafe due to all the cagers? Land of the free, where you are free to drive a lifted truck or GTFO the road!
@@mdemers767 You're right, they don't outlaw lifted trucks that can't scoop the car into a wedge at the end. Also, motorcycles aren't banned, they just require a special license to operate. Middle ground option for squats, special license required and you can't insure them.
@@succ519- Or maybe rednecks drive lifted pickups and motorcycles, and minorities do the squat thing because it's a popular mod. I'm not saying that's 100% the reason, but there's definitely a possibility that racism plays a part in this, especially in the South.
Also, wouldn't the truck suffer oversteering very easily with a suspension like that?
The only thing I can think of that would have made this test better is if you had filmed the view from the Miata or from behind the squatted truck. It may affect visibility of those trying to look around the truck as well.
“Why do people hate it so much?!” Fucking look at it…
First they came for the Stanced cars, and I did not speak out-
Because my car was not stanced.
Then they came for the Coal Rollers, and I did not speak out-
Because I did not roll coal.
Then they came for the Fart Cans, and I did not speak out-
Because I did not have a fart can.
Then they came for my squatters-and there was no one left to speak for me.
@@AeiouCommander I don’t like squatted trucks but that’s actually a really great take on this or any subject, great life advice
I think it looks stupid but it’s your vehicle 😹
@@AeiouCommander rolling coal should also be illegal just sayin
@@cricky6239 it’s an adapted proverb about not speaking out against nazis.
0:53 "They say it's dangerous" "Is this really about public safety" Yes it really is dangerous. I received partial vision loss and permanent brain damage from just looking at one the other day
I wanted to like this but it had 69 likes, and I feel like that was more important.
@@muffinmanwolfe1737 Not all heroes wear capes. :D
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There is a dude in my neighborhood that has a truck like this and he’s also a flat earther so he already has more brain damage than the rest
Yuh
I do have another 2 points to think of. Motorcycles. Motorcycles are fairly small and already hard to see. Also brake lights. Seeing brake lights easily and in plain view is an important safety concern.
not if you're actually paying attention while driving in the 1st place. cars and bikes don't just instantly appear in front of you as you drive.
I heard the origin for it was a high school student who had a pick-up and wanted to lift it. Buys a lift kit only to realize they only bought the front lift kit, and didn't have the money or time to buy and install a rear kit. Drove it around and it became popular.
Keep in mind, it’s not just the visibility, when your bumpers are that far out of spec, you end up with a decapitation machine when you fail to see that Miata.
do you write movies for final destination? nice imagination. i would literally bet money that it would roll first. so many unknown variables tho speed angle of crash angle of wheels crumple zones weight of both vehicles each one of those changing would change the outcome plus so many more...
This was/is my impression about these trucks.
@@joshuamiller8198 ever see a Honda CRV crawl over a Tesla, doing over $50,000 in damage?
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@@joshuamiller8198 I'm a paramedic and have seen these trucks in high speed accidents tear the roofs off of cars. They act like they are hitting ramps and fly over the top of the car ripping the roof and possibly heads off of the occupant (you ever seen a decapitated person? I have twice once from a squatted truck rear-ending a normal sized car and once from someone getting hit by an over sized trailer carrying those storage buildings. Both were nasty and avoidable.) If you like the way the look, good for you, there are a lot of things that people do I don't, but I don't say anything because it's not my car, but there is a definite safety problem with these trucks that I think you are being willfully ignorant of.
also a smaller person doesn't see shit
I always thought they couldn’t afford the other half of the lift kit.
Edit: You can tell the guys on here that drive one of these ridiculous looking things by the comments. Sorry man your trucks not cool. It looks like a dog that got hit by a car and has to drag its back half to walk. Level trucks look nice yours looks broken.
I've always thought that they have broken suspension and couldn't afford to fix it
They only sell lift kits with both front and back
Man this one is getting old
😂
@@HighTopMyers exactly lame asf
To be honest this experiment made me even more scared of these things - not only would I not see a child coming right under my hood, there's a big chance I wouldn't even see a small car in front of me either.
and remember, this isnt even a full size truck, they used a smaller one with a short hood...
My pickup is a spare vehicle that gets driven once a month or so. There's always water collected in the bedliner. I should squat it so the bed is always drained. This is a great idea.
pretty sure squatting defeats a lot of front impact standards, visibility not withstanding.
@Cornpop a 40" lift is mega truck terretory. maybe you mean a 10" or 12" lift on 44" tires
@Cornpop True maybe but couldnt the squated car just take the heads of the people in the car that they impact ? thats my first reaction seeing this.
Car in front takes out the fron axle and get the truck right into their A pillar and you have a decapitation? xD
to be honest, if there was a frontal impact, because you can't see a car in front, what's the chances of running them over if they're in a smaller car
Yeah if you clipped a barrier or something going fast it would be way easier to flip with a squatted truck. Definitely not safe.
Wouldn't be much of an impact depending on the car the truck was hitting. Lmao. A rear end fender bender could end up in a decapitation quite easily.
As someone from NC, I've seen four wrecks involving squatted trucks. Every single one of them was visibility, with the truck guy immediately going "I didn't see you man".
Maybe you can help explain this then. Why do they have the long cb antennas with tennis balls.
@@mynameisladder3481 it’s disgusting. It’s to let everyone know how many girls they have banged. Yes they are PROUD of not being able to keep a girl.
@@Serdrix as an NC resident, half the people that run tennis balls either can’t count or really really suck at lying..
@@Austin-yb7ec FOR REAL😂
@@mynameisladder3481 the tennis ball is to keep the antenna from banging against the paint.
In Oklahoma if your lifted truck lights are higher than 4 feet you can be ticketed.....OHP focuses more on the lowered import cars than the big ass trucks though....
I legit only today found out squatted trucks where static like that .
Always assumed it was air ride and they squatted them when parked at shows
Nolan: I feel bad for the squat guys
The internet: fuck outta here! 🤣
"Nobody made this big of a deal over stanced cars"... because a slammed car with retarded amounts of camber is just going to destroy itself, not other people due to lack of visibility.
@@erix5184 As I read your comment I imagined an upper control arm that read “retard.” Ha
Then he said, "remember stance and demon camber?"
The internet: "we were trying to forget
@@mtb416 if you ain't out if control, you ain't in control
If they would have reversed squat their trucks (front down, back up) there would be no complaints for safety since they increase the visibility that way.
“Is it dangerous”, somebody I knew blew the front left quarter of his squatted truck off because he couldn’t see a motorcycle in front of him so I’d say so.
I see ur point but there are people in normal vehicles that hit motorcycles everyday, I think the point he is making is “is it more dangerous than a normal suspension vehicle” I don’t like squatted trucks but I don’t get the hate on them
@@cole_miner3957 I think it is more dangerous because in a normal vehicle, if they hit something it is due to a lack of attention not a lack of visibilaty
@@Reagan_John fair enough and your probably right. But I don’t think it’s fair to destroy a community without hard data proving it is dangerous. It would be like destroying the mustang Bc of the “they slide into crowds” joke without evidence that mustang are dangerous.
@@cole_miner3957 Theres also the problem of impact structures, since trucks werent designed to crash with the bottom of the engine pointing at people. And being honest, sometimes its better to solve a problem before it even gets to the point of being a problem, specially when lives are at risk
@@augustooliveira5588 again another fair point I’m not arguing against the bill it probabl y should happen. I just think it’s unfair how quick North Carolina is on removing it without data showing they are more dangerous or evidence squatted truck crash test score lower.
"That looks stupid, that looks dangerous & I hate it" is everybody's sentiments in NC. It just needs to go away lol
I love the Bois are just having fun in the back!
As a North Carolinian, I can confirm that we are not upset to see squatted trucks go. We’re glad that we won’t be associated with it anymore.
Fellow NC resident here, I confirm this statement.
Also confirm
Yep me too I was so happy
Also me can't wait to not see them anymore.
Same. They look terrible
Nolan:“It has 70,000 signatures why do people hate them so much”
Whistlindiesel: “mission accomplished”
I signed it. F em
I find their eagerness to ban something based on it being dangerous somewhat ironic but ehhhh who cares. Whistlindiesel is awesome
I was thinking the same thing lol
Yee haw
because it looks stupid
11:45 big bass bonanza music got me 😂😂😂😂😂
as someone who drives a subcompact, I would much prefer this be controlled, as it would be blinding in my rearview. It's bad enough with a normal truck, but lowbeams would blind me at night on a squatted truck.
Nolan: why do people hate squatted trucks so much?
Everyone: Look at it. Just look at it
Cuz in 2019 I got rear ended and the kid had a old 95 Tahoe 4 wheel drive no insurance but had the money it’s squat there rear and jack the front up with a 9” lift.
Whistlin Diesel, lets turn it into fragments and sell it in little cups.
Found the hater. lol
@@factsoverfeelings1776 nope the kid had no insurance no Liability and I had my kids in the car not a hater by no means.
Because is someone got hit by this truck then you also get run over compared to a regular truck that would hit them then possibly throw them based on the speed.
“Visibility is alright”
Can’t see an entire car
Yep, and then think of what happens to the Miata driver when the squatter doesn’t even notice they’re there, until they hit the moving speed bump
He drives a mustang. Not seeing things in front of him is what hes used to. XD
@@fatherc0lt LOL
Exactly I think it’s unsafe
But in the road, you will see the miata when they are not too close in front of you. You will use your brake when there are objects closing in to you. I mean everyone doesnt want to get accident too.
When I was a kid in Charlotte North Carolina during the 80's my family would drive through small rural towns and cities like Wadesboro, Hamlet, Rockingham, etc. on the way to the beach and we would see Buick Regals, Monte Carlos and Oldsmobile Cutlasses that were raised in the front, yes the front and lowered in the back with curb feelers, loooong antennas and chrome mud flaps.
I had a small block 72 mustang with big block springs and that sob was dangerous to drive til I got it fixed. Can't imagine these trucks are any better.
This was covered recently on Jalopnik. You lose forward visibility; you lose rearward visibility, your headlights shine into the sky.
The exact same look can be accomplished with hydraulics at a car show. You can reorient the truck with a flip of a switch and drive safely. When your sense of style affects the safety of everyone around you, it's the job of lawmakers to get involved.
Well said. Thank you!
@Adam you can work on multiple problems at the same time; particularly when one of them is more clear than the other. If we worked serially on problem solving, nothing would get addressed as different people (and thus representatives/politicians) have different priorities on what to fix first.
@Adam Sometimes you dont need hard stats. If theres an increase in risk (even without higher numbers of accidents) you can prohibit these car mods before something tragic happens.
The headlights are actually a big deal you don't think of right away.
As much as I would love to see squatted trucks made illegal I don’t agree with that line of reasoning because than it opens the door to anything being made illegal because it isn’t as safe, you want to put a lift on can’t anymore increased rollover risk and reduced handling, you want off road tires can’t do that anymore reduced handling and braking distance makes it more dangerous, you want to mod your engine can’t anymore cars with more hp statistically have higher crash ratings etc etc.
The issue is the headlights. You can’t have the headlights that high especially if you don’t change their angle.
Another issue is bumper height. The bumper of the Tacoma was above the entire Miata. If you are in a low car and you get rear ended by a squatted truck, that truck is coming straight up to the passenger cabin.
@@MrIzzy5466 True, i didn't even think about that, bur you're spot on.
@@MrIzzy5466 yea but want it do the same thing with a lifted truck.
@@Whoswac I think the law is any trucks lifted more than 6 inches need to have bigger/lower bumpers. Big trucks like the Ford F-650 (and any commercial Truck) all have big bumpers precisely so they don't completely Eat cars on impact
@@MrIzzy5466 ok thanks!!!! Well I’m in Mississippi, we have no restrictions on lifts and or suspension lifts. .
My nephew went through the baggy pants stage back in the day, too.
It took about a week of my sister pulling them down to his ankles every time he walked through the kitchen for him to start dressing normal.
I love the comment at the end to reach out to local governments to learn more. Great thing to make people aware of. When I worked for the Center of Constitutional Studies we loved it when random people would call or come in just to ask random questions.
We already had 2 trucks come in with transmission issues due to squatting their trucks. The trans fluid shifts to the back.
You know the rule - - two men enter, one man leaves . . . .
@SilentGhilly Ive witnessed a murder.
@SilentGhilly ok yea but see here the question you should be asking is not about a pump but rather is it getting enough fluid pumped through because the transmission wasn’t made to be on a permanent incline. The fluid passages and other parts were made to be pumped and lubricated on flat level ground with slight variation of incline not changing anything but when you push fluid away from the pump that pump might be running dry until the fluid can flow back down properly which it most likely doesn’t not to mention the extra stress you’re putting on your front suspension could literally kill you a accident above 45 mph has enough g force to snap your neck crack your spine or cause whiplash at best
You can run a trans dry if the the fluid level isn't high enough at the pickup tube.
@SilentGhilly I don't know about the trans, but I've seen a handful of trucks that ruin one engine after the other. The valves for #1 and #2 don't get lubed or cooled and they give up
“Lifting 6 at the top and squatting at the back…I can’t see the Miata but it’s not bad!”
Me, a 5ft 3 inch pedestrian crossing a crosswalk while these types of drivers try to desperately turn right on red: *im in danger lol*
Manlet
@@acow9966 you know, there are people that are not men.
I think if they forced a 6 front lift and 6 back drop instead of an outright ban it should also bring crash liability from lack of visibility on the driver of the squatted truck, same goes for civil suits against the driver if a pedestrian is hit. That is if squatting will be allowed in the first place with the risk it creates. Also case by case the context changes so what I'm saying isn't always right to say.
@@sorrowmg278 I much rather they ban this than risk to see if I survive getting hit by a car like this and be well enough to sue. That’s assuming that they’ll have a way to pay me whatever I’m due if the injuries are truly super serious.
@@acow9966 I’m a woman you doofus
Squatted trucks are also a safety hazard because half of the time they are just thrown together, whistlindiesel also showed that on his channel, the first one had something in the suspension snap which could really cause some harm going down the road
I like how each host in this show has there own personality that goes along with it.
"Can't see a car in front of you"
Ahh yes, this is perfectly safe.
Uh, Hello? They are bird watching... jeez
Yes How could it be any Better??
Squatted truck drivers defending squatted trucks after hitting 36 mailboxes they couldn't see
@@aoi89387 I've seen that happen that and almost hitting a shopping cart but swerved at the last second (I was hoping).
@@aoi89387 a lady hit me with her car because she didn't see me (I was on the sidewalk) and her car was normal I think before we make it impossible to see infront of you we should probably learn how to drive and look both ways first
Back when I was stationed at Camp Lejeune, there was an incident at a car meet where someone in a squatted truck (or maybe SUV) ran over the hood of a dude’s 240SX because he couldn’t see it. Besides the fact that I think it looks stupid, that was the main reason for me growing to hate those trucks.
Rahh Semper Fi bruh I was there too lol n yeah that's like the style for the truck guys either super lifted or hella squated
Lmao I was there, huge fight nearly broke out with those nerds
@@Bdub423 small world 🌎
Was it a Black Chevy Silverado?
Could've happened wit' any vehicle.
Folks in general, especially most, don't pay attention at all, regardless of what their driving.
Use to be a low rider thing.. use to even have pans under the rear to throw sparks... The mini trucks were the first for that reason. As someone in North Carolina, it's more likely the headlights being aimed straight into the windshield of on coming traffic.
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Remember, the vehicles are not designed to take collisions at this elevated angle. You might as well remove the bumpers all together.
Exactly. I have seen enough safety crash video to know this is incredibly dangerous in a crash. It would miss the bumper of any standard car. It doesn’t take a genius to realize this. And using the “no hard data” argument here is SO stupid. Oof.
Nobody wants to get rear-ended by a truck that looks like its going up a ramp.
@@quarterarcade8825 to be fair most stock full size trucks are not going to it the bumper of a sedan.
This is also an argument to ban lifted trucks in general. A truck squatted 3" rear and lifted 3" front is (viewing angles) similar to a 6" lifted truck.
To your point of crash-worthiness, the issue is not that the bumper is whatever height above stock, but that the frame is now at an angle and crash forces will react unpredictably (or outside of design characteristics as physics can absolutely predict what would happen) in a crash. Instead of forces being transferred longitudinally down the frame, mostly being absorbed in the front quarter, it would now mostly force the truck up up onto the car. Incidently this is the same argument used to limit/ban lifts on trucks and impact HD truck designs (as they are naturally taller) to insure their bumpers are within a certain height requirement.
NC trucks: “It’s not a phase!”
Stranger danger!!!!!!
Also NC bois. Boy its safe and my trucks not a shitbox. Even tho my suspension geometry is fucked. And ive hit 4 mailboxes i couldnt see.
Fanf Reference?
Its Stranger danger!
IT'S WHO I AM 💀
All of this work, and never tried testing a 3 inch lift in the front and a 2 inch drop in the back, to see what NC thought of as being the limit of allowable.
I'll try!
If something goes wrong with stancing it's more likely just a problem for the owner of the stanced car, aka the parts causing your wheels to have increased camber to give in to the forces and breaking off.
Stanced cars also tend to be smaller, lighter cars. Some people do it to their trucks to show off, but it's more popular as a trend on smaller, lighter cars.
Meanwhile, squatted trucks are more potent to be a problem for those around them, as you've proved yourself the short-range visibility is just not passing-grade, while short-range visibility is increasingly important as traffic gets more dense.
Squatted trucks also tend to be heavier. Big, heavy trucks mean more mass, so if an accident does occur, usually involving someone else due to sheer lack of short-range visibility, the victim is far more likely to suffer major injuries as one of the factors of impact force, mass, is a higher value.
And this is not even accounting for the issues with headlight alignment, which is a MAJOR safety hazard if done wrong.
Even if it's alleged data, if the likelihood of said data is sufficient, it's fair to use as empirical data, even if there's no recorded data to support it.
And then in the end the recorded data is completely different from the alleged precalculated data... and then scandals reach the light of day... so I guess truck squatters have some hope in the long run!
I'll just stick to my boomer tastes. I'd rather see a squatted 64 Chevy Impala.
"I still have good visibility"
*Shows a diagram of a Miata being eaten by a Tacoma*
Miata/RX8 owner here, and your not kidding. They literally cannot see you, which makes for some interestingly defensive driving on my end -_-
However, he practically was riding in the trunk to get that to happen. Even when stopped in traffic, vehicles should not be that close.
@@bramsortwell8426 take it you've never had the pleasure of driving in places like Atlanta. They literally ride your ass like they were drifting or something.
@@scottnewsham2496 I have had that unpleasant experience, unfortunately. Chicago and Milwaukee are not much better.
@@scottnewsham2496 man i had someone do that yesterday omw to lowes with my pops atl people don’t know how to drive man
You gotta remember when they squat these trucks they’re also putting big rims/tires on the trucks with the lift so they’re a lot higher up. From whistlin diesels video when he got in the truck and started driving you really couldn’t see shit from inside the truck
to be fair his was ridiculous. usually ppl only go up/down a couple inches
@@0xsergy true true
I think you also need to factor in what happens in the event of a crash. The squat may affect that as well
I was watching Carolina news yesterday and they said You get a ticket for the first 3 infractions first one is $100 next is $200 and the third $300 after that they will impound the truck much love from New Zealand
Everyone please support whistlin diesel and the anti truck squat movement. Squatted trucks are stupid, unsafe, and all should be destroyed lol
Yes xD
yesss sir
Like WWII aircraft?
Yes, squatted diesels and their maga hat wearing owners need to go.
@@TheUniversalid agreed
Two things not mentioned:
- headlights become high beams and irritate other drivers
- pedestrian safety is also a thing. Decapitated by a truck? There is a reason why manufacturers build the front of a car like that. Also to protect other people in traffic. Doing such stupid "modification" completely demolishes safety in many ways.
Amen.
You’ve never heard of anybody being decapitated by a squatted truck or any deaths be for real now
@@freedom4153 I'm from Germany and we don't do stupid stuff like that. Decapitation was just a exaggeration. But there is a reason how cars are build. Also for pedestrian protection.
Hey buddy you do realize you can aim your head lights lol
have had my truck with a heavy load in the back. it mess with the front alignment. driving and breaking are all screwed up. You have to get front wheel alignment done often to keep the handling in check.
every time I go to my beach house in myrtle Beach and I see on of these guys rear ended someone I just point and laugh at them 😂 then I tell the person that got hot to sue em for everything 😂😂😂
What to make of your safety results-- There is significant chance that a driver of something like this would be unable to see key things other drivers could like....
-That random mattress that ended up in the middle of the highway and is stopping traffic
-cyclists
-children, shorter and/or old people, people in electric and ordinary wheelchairs or walkers (keep in mind the US doesn't have frequent curb-breaks, so these are likely to be on the road)
-dogs, cats, raccoons, deer
-escaped Bengal tiger that lives next door
(hey, if you'll own one of these things one wonders who your neighbours are)
Wow Nolan's parents look just like him!
afterall theyre his parents
That’s how genetics work
He is his own parent. He is an enigma caused by a time machine and a fleshlight
Or does he look like them 🤔🤔🤔
I didn't see the resemblance.
Its difficult to get hard data when most accidents caused by bright headlights dont involve the the person with the bright headlights. They blind people then keep driving.
That's still assuming (ignorantly) that the blinder was squatted amd anot some grandma in her 80 Buick who's bulb alignment went out of wack years ago, or some other imbecile just running their high beams 🤬
Do we need to wait for accidents to happen to ban something anyway? I think if you fix something only when people die from it, you are already too late.
@@artemkatelnytskyi That's how it usually works, on the extreme end, but hey.. dramatics 🙄
@@artemkatelnytskyi you do understand it takes collecting data before they can ban/make things illegal. If not then it would the opposite squared truck drivers complaining over a ban without any documented information on why it’s dangerous/unsafe/ whatever word you want to use to describe it
@@riptyrique9655 "collecting data" doesn't necessarily have to include statistics. You can deduce it is unsafe by looking at potential dangers.
North Carolina: Yea this sound like a great idea!
Myrtle Beach: *sweating aggressively*
encouraging engagement in local government is amazing! thanks guys
"I'm tired of respecting all builds."
Gotta be honest I dunno how many “I respect all builds” I got left in me fam.
never respect anybody's build
respect is earned, and if it isn't a performance modification, it's bad
Slick Mike unless I have the hot parts to match, I generally don’t bother with aesthetic modifications.
@@hot_pink_bitch_8896 a true gentleman of the sport
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This is possibly the most diplomatic and level headed take I have seen so far on this topic.
I like Whistlin's course of action much more.
more forgiving in the interpretation of the visibility results than I would have been.
As a high school teacher, thank you for helping to spread the word of anecdotal vs empirical evidence. Anecdotal is the main argument kids go to and it's totally bogus
I think it's perfectly reasonable to make a law that keeps people from having to look at something so stupid it could kill you.
😆😆😆
That’s why you’re ol lady likes mine tho 😂
ok boomer
@@Nick_CF LOL
im a cdl driver, i see accidents ever couple hours involving regular cars. there is not that many squatted trucks on the road for law to have to be made. yall bandwagons need to think for yourselves.
“If they wanted to lean back why not just lean their seat back?”
Lolol GG
Or listen to fat Joe....maybe that's a little old for you, it was a popular song in the early 2000s
Which they do in squats, and was not included in the Donut Test.
@@eriktruchinskas3747 We don't dance. We pull up our pants and do the 'rockaway'.
i live in mooresville nc and the amount of squatted truck accidents that have happened in the past year are actually insanely high
glad to see that at 2:47 they appear to use the virginia shape for north carolina
The inspiration for the Carolina squat was when a kid, one day saw his dog dragging his/her ass across mom’s favorite rug…thats how the squat became to be.
Lmfao!!
That's funny. Please do not call it "Carolina" squat. Most of us don't appreciate that...
@@PC-vx6ko did any one ask?
@@toaster6200 I just did?
Ah, so it's because Southern dudes don't know how to wipe their ass. That actually completely makes sense.
Tennessee weighing in here. I see these all the time. Aesthetics aside, these are monstrously unstable with the extremes that I've seen applied, and spun, frequently. The headlights are definitely bothersome but having personally witnessed multiple spinouts gives me genuine concern for safety.
Going to try and find squatted truck crashes now
Well we do it right in Mississippi we raise the whole truck up we just use weaker springs in the rear. We do it 👉 right
They really are unstable ive seen lots of issues leading to spin-outs. Its basically a useless mod and it causes thinga like the rpm act stop doing stupid mods
Arizona weighing in here. You’re a beach
Yeah, having such severe difference in suspension across the front and rear of a vehicle really seems like asking for instability to me.
Carolina Squat: For when you wanna look like you're going fast... all the time!
I live in North Carolina…and even tho they are banned you still see them pretty often and it causes me so much pain when I see it
The biggest problem is that you used a pre-2005 Toyota, which have excellent forward visibility, even when lifted. The other issue which you are ignoring is that the squatted truck is not shining the headlamps downward to the ground, but at an upward angle, creating a set of hazards.
My friend was rear ended at a traffic light by someone in a truck with a "squatted" lift. It's hard to imagine in that scenario that any excuse beyond lack of visibility was reasonable.
people get rear ended all the time and by cars that are not squatted so whats their excuse
@@kurtnulf3362 imagine sitting at a stoplight, second car in line, with a squat lifted truck behind you. Light goes green and the truck rear ends you... What's his excuse?
@@Project337 Not paying attention? Using their phone? Any other kind of driver irresponsibility?
@@thegirlwiththemouseyhair6486 Ok so I should ignore the fact that this lifted truck with an emphasized front end lift reacted perfectly to the first car at the light? Because as soon as the light went green and the lead car started moving, the truck collided with my friend's car (between the truck and the lead car). Should I just ignore the fact that there was a real possibility that the truck driver's view was obstructed?
@@Project337 you never gave us this information. How was I supposed to know any of this?
I just assumed they were guys who could only afford half a lift kit but didn't want to wait.
The bill is about any and all altered suspension, not just the squat. Yea thats what the main argument is from the kids with the squated rides, but the bill outlaws any alterations over 2" ( i believe that was the measurement)
As someone who lives in Myrtle Beach South Carolina where all of the truck like to go on vacation. I can say without a doubt that this is definitely a matter of safety. As there have been a recorded 57 incidences of squatted trucks running into vehicles due to visibility issue. There are nine named local car scenes in my area and all of them unanimously agree that it is a concern of safety. This is coming from the car Community itself not just safety officials and politicians. This is also coming from someone who witnessed four of these accidents occurring and they all happen to be with squatted trucks because of poor visibility. This isn't a matter of whether you think it should or should not be blocked this is a matter of its actually harmful and actually is dangerous and I can prove it. With science. And my information is empirical
was just south of there on vacation and saw a lot of it and many near accidents. It makes you look like a big loser driving like that too.
I agree with you except technically the info is anecdotal, not empirical. Empirical information is measurable, you can't measure "they all happen to be with squatted trucks", that is a personal observation.
Love myrtle beach
u will see quite a few while ur down there, i will say
Oooo, empirical. SOLD. 🤣😂🤪
I'm waiting for whistling diesel to destroy these things one at a time.
He’ll never get mine 😀
@@coronavirus3255 omg u are gay
@@coronavirus3255 gay and you have a Fortnite pfp smh (jokes but still ew)
@@coronavirus3255 Wow, your a shame to every car/truck owner
He won’t get a chance. This law is gonna take them out.
Regarding the origin of the style, you would unintentionally see a squatted truckss during lowrider shows and when they would compete for highest bounce. But they use airbags for those and can either lift them or bring it back down right away
Soooo... here’s the thing. I grew up in Georgia. Recently i lived there again in 2018-2019, it is not done correctly there or in the Carolinas, from what I saw.
I’ve lived mostly in SoCal from 2006-2018, 2019-2021 I’ve had two Cali-lifted desert running trucks out here.
I admit, I didn’t perform the lifts, but I have enjoyed them a lot. When you see it done just for style, it just looks wrong, vs when it’s done for function.
I work as an ultralight test pilot and spend a lot of time off road in the desert with my pickup towing (and recovering) aircraft. I don’t HAVE to have the lift but it allows me to drive a bit more aggressively off road. Angle is barely noticeable in my six inch lift with the front slightly higher than the back. When I “land” with a mostly empty bed and a pretty heavy V8 the higher lift in front end makes a difference when I land a jump.
The Carolina squat... you can just look at it and see it’s done incorrectly.
Again, not a true car guy, can just see what works and what doesn’t, as form is dictated by function. If it doesn’t work for an intended purpose, don’t do it!
As a life long North Carolinian, most people here hate them anyway 😂
exactly it’s just the teens that do it 😂 and I’m a teen myself and I hate it 💀
I agree 💯 😊
😂
Why ban it though? Because YOU don't like it?
I think they look like shit too but my dad thinks my black rims look like fidos ass, perceptions a hell of a thing.... is it really dangerous though???
@@dannykennedy5885 it is when you can't see in front of you. That's why the law allows you to squat it but to a certain limit.
@@dannykennedy5885 because they try to go to all the car meets and rev their s*** boxes off the limiter in Jacksonville North Carolina a group of squatters came to a truck and ran over a parked 240, then got out and told the owner his car wasn't that nice to begin with, trust me just because internet boy Noland said there isn't proof after telling you they don't keep special data on squatted wrecks , dosen't mean we haven't seen first hand what the squatted yee yee Bois have done, you add there texting and driving, or any of the substance's they use and it's a disaster waiting to happen 🤷🏻♂️
That drawing of Virginia as North Carolina at 2:50 hurt my head
YES SOMEBODY ELSE NOTICED
Same I said "hold up"
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I've seen a Monte Carlo kinda donked out but it was the opposite. It had extreme rake in the front and lifted in the back. I tried to catch a glimpse of him smashing his brakes and bonking his face on the windshield but alas, it wasn't meant to be.
The funniest thing I ever saw was a low rider truck that got stuck on a speedbump 🤣🤣🤣
Nolan: *”You don’t get me mom!”*
NC Government: *”Why is he calling us mom?”*
all i wanted was a pepsi, AND SHE WOULDN'T GIVE IT TO ME!
@@TRC2002 🤘👽🤘
Chevy, Ford, and Dodge: we all give each other shit. But if there is anything we cam agree on, is that squatted truck drivers don't deserve a truck
Or a license. Or breathing privileges.
They do if they bought it just like every other American. Why not ban stance? Why not ban LED headlights? Wtf you gonna mess with a group of people who aren’t hurting anything.
@@hunterwillis7547 But they are hurting people. Squatted trucks are extremely dangerous for obvious reasons
@@hunterwillis7547 Because they ARE hurting the eyes of anyone with GOOD TASTE. But more importantly, squatted trucks are very unsafe for a variety of reasons and COULD hurt somebody.
@@pookysdad4884 bring me one example of an accident with a squatted truck and I’ll agree… I’m also sorry your snowflake eyes hurt. If you don’t like it don’t look at it.
Its not only NC. Plenty of SC trucks are squatted too. Unfortunately my brother is one of them. The main problem I see with them is many people who squat are ignorant and dont understand the potential, premature failure of front end components. When my brother bought his, it was already squatted. He constantly blew wheel bearings, snapped tie rods, and blew ball joints while going full speed down the road. Given they are a steering component, the tie rods could have potentially been the larges safety issue. We were constantly renting ball joint presses and tie rod removers (I was at tech for Automotive at the time) before I finally got the bullet and bought my own press and remover. I told him if he expected me to help him then, he needed to get the truck lifted correctly. He finally got a professional to install his lift in 2018 and aint blown one since.
I live in SC and I’ve heard stories of kids with squatted vehicles running into the back of cars at red lights.
“Lookin for bois. Where the bois at? Oh we got a lot of bois?” -Nolan 2021
Taken out of context, Nolan could probably get in trouble, lol. 11:47
These needs to be a meme. Nolan in a squatted truck “ Nolan looking for the bois”
Bill Cosby fresh out of prison 🤣
Nolan loves bois in the back.
That's literally what the truck stance says cuz its homosexual
Headlights have a relatively narrow range of adjustment through a vertical axis. It's very easy to raise the headlights to an angle beyond the ability to properly, and legally, align them. You will quickly create a situation where you're blinding on coming traffic. Not to mention that many of these trucks have a stadiums worth of lighting attached to them. Then you have problems with fluids moving to the wrong places in the engine and trans, instabilities added by changing the CoG and MoI, and applying stresses to components outside their design parameters. Plus, it makes your truck look like a dog dragging its ass on the carpet.
adjusting back within spec after a lift should be required
How else will they get the love gravy out of their rumps? Daddy's money isn't spent without losing something....
Smol pp owners joined the chat
@@joe7272 You know damn well that anyone wanting to squat their truck is going to take it to Jimmy Joe Bob down the street who said he can do it for 100 bucks and a case of beer
@@Cynsham Make cops actually do something useful for society and mail them a ticket
"Carolina Squat" makes me think of a dog with intestinal worms, dragging his butt across the carpet!
Laws made to ban specific mods are the devil, but this is about the stupidest mod since extreme camber.
Always loved the back to the future Toyota 👍
Nolan- "How are they making laws without any data?"
Lol my sweet summer child.
you also need no data to see that the tacomas front is high enoug to slide over the miata and decapitate whoever is in it in the event of a crash.
and doing that is generally called a preventative risk assessment. and it's done so that you immediately see the problems with something and someone doesn't have to die or get seriously injured before you realize that the problem exists.
@@anonym3017 I'm going to go out on a limb and bet you're a fan of masks.
@@nathantovey1774 you mean a fan of accurate data and truth? Yeah probably
@@nathantovey1774 you mean the thing scientifically proven to help reduce transmission of communicable diseases?
@@anonym3017 Well you must be really scared of commercial trucks, cement mixer and delivery truck that are not only higher, but stronger and heavier to decapitate miata owners....
Living in the NC mountains, I can confirm that driving around backroads here at night, you are rolling the dice. It isn't the pedestrians that get hit, its that these bros throw cheap LED lights in that are already blind others and then point them 12 inches into the air and there is no amount of adjustment that can point them in a safe direction. If they are coming at you on a hill, you might as well just stare into the sun, and god forbid you flash them to warn them its dangerous...because they spent 54.99 to buy a 50 inch lightbar off wish and pod lights for their "rig" and they wont hesitate to turn them all on to let you know how kind they are to only be slightly blinding you....ugh. I am glad its a state issue, and not some kind of federal ban, I think we need more of that focused small government.
Put your tire on the center line and hold on
Sorry bud, but those aren't mountains. I live at 9,800ft on the side of Pikes Peak Mt. Colorado. Those are 6k ft hills in NC.
Just messing with ya, that area in NC is beautiful. ✊💜
As a resident in Meatcamp NC, I second your opinions.
But I makes me think that headlights and light bars are the true nuisance.
Another point is that the drivers with Carolina squat will cut off their exhaust, drive recklessly and bring no benefits to the local community.
We don't take kindly to dat der Carolina squat in these parts.
Did yall know the toothbrush was invented in Western Carolina? That's why we call it a toothbrush and not a teethbrush.
@@ffejkk37 ....Meatcamp?
@@cleverusernamenexttime2779 If the front of your truck is high enough. Anything is a ramp. Even a 93 Corolla.
The 6inch lift in front and 6in lower in the rear is some what legitimate, but you didn't account for the laid back seat and fuzzy steering wheel covers. Plus it was a mid sized truck a full sized truck sits higher stock so with these mods the results would be different
As a New Yorker who has been tailgated by a few squatted trucks, I have to agree with everyone mentioning headlights.
1. Blinds anyone in front of you, doesnt matter if its just your low beams, they are still bright as hell.
2. How the hell do you see a compact pickup (ranger/s10) or even a sedan over that hood??!!
They originated when poor boys in NC and SC that couldn’t afford lift kits would crank the torsion bars up on their chevys to fit 33s on stock wheels. You didn’t have to do anything to the rear to fit 33s.
Truth.
False
Makes sense. A buddy of mine was gonna do that to his Silverado when we were in high school...
And that was almost 15 years ago. Damn, I'm old! X3
False.
They wanted to mimic the trophy truck look where the front sits slightly higher to the rear. Idiots took the look to far in an attempt to 1 up the other guy by saying my truck is "squated" more than yours.
Here we go again with Heritage lol
I think something you’re missing is that messing with the angle of your front end like that hugely increases the chance of fatality from a pedestrian crash. Solid hood emblems were a problem. These trucks would hit you in the chest and put you under them.
Just do like the locals here do... Throw straight pipes on it, you know, so you can hear every pistol slap in the engine.
Not to mention if truckboi rear ends that Miata that he can't see, the front of the truck is going right over it. What would've been a fairly minor fender bender quickly turns into a lot of expensive damage.
@@John_Stephens43 And make it even more annoying lmao
It is nanny state BS and you know it. While NC is at it, they need to outlaw stairs, cracks on sidewalks, uneven sidewalks, motorcycles, scooters, bathtubs, and everything else that can be fatal.
@@ocda3 and death
Tbh, you didn't touch on my biggest issue with squatted trucks. You know, when they don't adjust the headlights when they adjust the trucks so now regular lights have the affect of serious high beams and blind everyone