Paul Ingbretson Talks about Holbein No. 94
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- An assessment of the work of Holbein comparing to the artists preceding him in Northern Europe and then with Bellini. It also compares his drawings to Ingres, Degas and the Boston School.
In response to Zoran
Thanks Paul for filming this I will share it with my students, especially glad you mentioned earlier master like Van Eyck. In February in Ghent , Belgium opens the biggest ever retrospective of Van Eyck!
It looks very much to me that the drawings, with their flatness, distinct contours/outlines and shallow perspective, were made with an optical device such as a camera lucida.
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Camels twilight? It is impossible to make out the name of the book he refers to. Anybody out there caught the title?
Ives Gammell, Twilight of painting
Well, OK - thanks (as it were) for the heavy dose of (i) autobiography, along evaluative dimensions, mixed with rather to much art-historical and art-theoretical handwaving, with the crude misnomer of the ubiquitous “cutout” - only to take it back by halves (in allowing for beauty in the simplicity of the Holbeins “simple” lines [for which da Vinci, say, would have praise in terms of the mirror and verisimilitude generally]), whilst quietly suggesting that the later impressionist program was an improvement in values and color (rather than something else again, under some rubric of “what one sees”). It’s just a puzzling mix - for neophytes like myself who do not enjoy, or suffer, whatever is driving the verdicts of latter-day art-critics in their retrospective judgments. What was the point, the purpose, the aim, of all this? One would be hard pressed to say, frankly [again, from where I sit: apologies for missing whatever is excellent and revealing, here].
Thanks so much for taking the time to shed some light here....really appreciate your video on Degas as well.
Referring to the Holbein portrait drawings, there isn't a single one in the collection that wasn't adulterated in one way or another by a second artist's hand over the years. Some more than others.
6:45 I think he painted that skull with some sort of reflection..
He painted it with a anamorphic perspective construction, this painting by the way very much alike Dürer's etching Melancholia I, which is also a demonstration of perspective and neoplatonic knowledge, 'sprezzatura' as was typical in these renaissance and baroque social circles, and also containing (or so it seems in reproductions) a hidden skull.
I'm egally fascinated by the elegance of the Holbein drawings as well and apparently he took this 3 crayon technique (so I learned from a recent discussion with someone here on youtube) from the French painter Clouet. Anyway, thank you for this interesting video, the name of The Idiot is Myshkin by the way. 😊
Yes...on both points. Forgotten Myshkin.
Michelangelo is not Leonardo Da Vinci.:.😊
Got me! lol
hello I bought 2 Holbein sketches in New Zealand and I'm curious to know if they are authentic
Inspired me to see the show in New York
Glad you got there, Cathy.
I went too! All the way from Nebraska!
came here to hear more about Holbein, instead this gut says " I " or " my ' more often than Holbein
People ask for conversation about some of these people but I am really on these videos to present the thinking related to the Boston School impressionist thinking. Holbein does, then, get used as a take off point or comparison rather than an assessment of his methods, etc. for their own sake.
As a member of the official Hans Holbein fanclub, I agree 😀
@@kristrappeniers As an Art-school student in Europe, back in the 60'ties, I've heard it all long time ago. Official Hans Holbein fanclub, how ridiculous, any artist in there?