@jim6186 what defined the Cs80 ? (Except being polyphonic) An expressive keyboard, presets, and unusual synthesis approach with playability and musicality in mind When people discover Cs80 for the 1st time, I can see 2 categories - pianists who try to play music with it (without thinking about synthesis and programming) - sound designers who watch the front panel and think "it's not as powerful as expected" followed by "sounds like shit" It really was an instrument thought to be played, despite it's possible to make some nice sound design with it I've not tried the code 8 yet, but I'm not sure it's been built with the same goal in mind Polybrute 12, well, it's a modern compromise with a very expensive keyboard and powerful synthesis If musicians don't want to waste their time programming, they have access to tons of presets directly playable (and that was my goal as a sound designer, thinking each preset as a playable instrument)
@@Michael_Geyre what defined the cs80? Well it's sound of course. My point is that the se code can be had with cs80 style filters making it the modern day closest equivalent to the cs80.
@jim6186 I disagree and things are not that easy All Cs synths share same vcf Ig, but most of them sound different Compare as example cs70m to a cs80 if you have the opportunity
beautiful playing, very nice....and so much better to hear what a synth can really do vs. the usual unimaginative seq/arp patterns repeating forever, thank you..
Thanks Arpeggio offers a nice feature, with possibility to use touch response to modulate whatever you want (let's say Attack or decay, as example) So, it's very easy to make lively arpeggios very easily
@@Michael_Geyre Hi, can it be achieved with the Hydrasynth too? If I remeber it right, the Hydra allows you to modulate the arp settings with the poly aftertouch
Que c'est beau, une pure Merveille le Polybrute 12 !!! Je tiens à te féliciter Michael pour ta superbe démonstration, je suis totalement sous le charme de ce synthétiseur ❤️ Bravo Arturia et bravo à toi !
Les gens confondent le son et l'expressivité, parce que ça sonne pas du tout comme un CS80! La confusion vient aussi du fait que ce synthé est à l'aise dans les textures, les sweep, etc... nettement plus que dans les basses et les leads. Je ne suis pas fan du grain arturia mais tu as réussi à faire des sons qui me "parlent" musicalement parlant. Donc un grand bravo à toi😉
Really good synth, but i Just wish it had Sequential or Oberhiem filters instead. I'm not a fan of Arturias Steiner parker filter. A Cem filter would have been a nice addition over the original PB too.
Matter of tastes I don't like much prophets (except old ssm models, or eventually double keyboard prophet 10) The combination of steiner and ladder vcf makes a very versatile instrument I can understand people who don't like steiner vcf, well, it has to be used for what it does well 🤷🏻♂️
@@Michael_Geyre Yes I can't say I'm a fan of Arturias Steiner Parker filter. I much prefer the filters of Oberhiem and sequential. I'd love to see this synth with Rev 2 filters for example over Steiner parker filters. Anyways you did a good job with it, nice work.
@maydaygoingdown5602 thanks 😊 What interests you the most ? Matrix mod or expressiveness? I've tried to use Osmose keyboard to play my matrix 12, interesting results but touch vibrato does not seem to be a good feature for that purpose (well, in my opinion) It might be possible to filter midi or disable it, just tried quickly Anyway, I think we're living a very interesting period, from a synth point of view
Salut Mickael. Bravo pour ta démo. Je suis franchement tenté par ce nouveau PB12, J'ai pas de doute sur l'expressivité mais je me pose la question du clavier. Est il aussi mou que celui de l'Osmose ? J'ai été très perturbé par la sensation du touché au point de le revendre. Le clavier de l'Osmose n'est pas fait pour les petits nerveux comme moi. c'est trop sensible. J'ai peur de retrouver cette même sensation sur ce PB12, C'est difficile de se faire une idée sans pouvoir l'essayer. L'expressivité est mise en avant, je ne vois que des gens qui jouent soft pour mettre en valeur ce clavier mais pour moi ce n'et pas l'atout majeur du polybrute. J'aimerai voir ce que donne un tel clavier sur un jeu rapide ou agressif. Est'ce que l'expressivité est aussi intérréssante dans ces conditions ?
@@janpieternieman5295 You're asking if the most advanced keyed in the history of synths, which took 2 years to develop in-house, and has 3 axis, velocity, after pressure, channel and poly aftertouch, and can sense 1mm of key initiation, can match a Jupiter-X keyboard. And I'm the troll? It's like asking if an upright piano can match a 9 foot Steinway Model D concert grand.
@@Michael_Geyre man this synthesizer will go down as one of the greatest analog synthesizers of all time and brother.. the fact that you played a roll on this is amazing
@synthsamuraiproductions thanks 😊 I feel lucky to have had the opportunity to be part of the birth of such an instrument (and its smaller brother the polybrute) I'm like most people watching these kinds of videos, a synth geek that has spent his life watching/testing/(eventually) buying too many synths Giving feedbacks and doing sound design for a synth seemed an unreachable dream, so doing it on such a great instrument....just wow ...
@@Marc_Angel c'est le même avec 12 voix ET un clavier expressif (ce qui est un atout non négligeable) Dit comme ça, ça semble peu spectaculaire mais en y regardant bien, c'étaient à peu près les mêmes différences entre un Cs60 et un Cs80 La plus grande polyphonie permet de faire des layers très riches sans problèmes de polyphonie, et le clavier expressif permet des choses un peu à la manière d'un Osmose, mais sur un synthé analogique très puissant et avec un super son
Un contrôleur moins vivant ? Excusez-moi, mais en ce qui me concerne, ça n'a pas vraiment de sens Ensuite "les Cs" franchement (et pour les avoir eus) hormis le 80, les claviers sont vraiment pas terribles Alors, que le rendu semble moins vivant, à la limite, si vous voulez Le toucher du Cs80 est bien plus lourd que celui du Pb12, et permet plus facilement d'expression sur l'aftertouch (encore qu'avec un peu d'entraînement ...) Ensuite, le Pb12 est nettement plus stable que le Cs80, il faut donc recréer l'instabilité artificiellement Je trouve les résultats plutôt convaincants et vous avez parfaitement le droit de ne pas être de mon avis En ce qui me concernent, j'ai les 2, comme ça c'est réglé Bonne musique à vous
I have a feeling this synth will go down in synth history as the most overhyped, most overpriced, ugliest-sounding ever and ugliest-looking ever synth of all times. Unless Arturia releases something worse than this..
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The modern-day CS-80. 🏆
And by far the best demo of it. 🏆
Sort of modern Cs80, true
Thanks 😊
The studio electronics code 8 is the modern cs80.
@jim6186 what defined the Cs80 ? (Except being polyphonic)
An expressive keyboard, presets, and unusual synthesis approach with playability and musicality in mind
When people discover Cs80 for the 1st time, I can see 2 categories
- pianists who try to play music with it (without thinking about synthesis and programming)
- sound designers who watch the front panel and think "it's not as powerful as expected" followed by "sounds like shit"
It really was an instrument thought to be played, despite it's possible to make some nice sound design with it
I've not tried the code 8 yet, but I'm not sure it's been built with the same goal in mind
Polybrute 12, well, it's a modern compromise with a very expensive keyboard and powerful synthesis
If musicians don't want to waste their time programming, they have access to tons of presets directly playable (and that was my goal as a sound designer, thinking each preset as a playable instrument)
@@Michael_Geyre what defined the cs80? Well it's sound of course.
My point is that the se code can be had with cs80 style filters making it the modern day closest equivalent to the cs80.
@jim6186 I disagree and things are not that easy
All Cs synths share same vcf Ig, but most of them sound different
Compare as example cs70m to a cs80 if you have the opportunity
It reminded me that synthesizers should be capable of such delicate expression. This is the great demo performance!❤
Thanks a lot 🤗
Best demo I have seen of the polybrute 12 and its capabilities. Thanks.
Thanks, it actually has even more expressiveness capabilities, but I did not have much time to record more
Author, you are great! You play beautifully and interestingly 👍🏻👍🏻
beautiful playing, very nice....and so much better to hear what a synth can really do vs. the usual unimaginative seq/arp patterns repeating forever, thank you..
Thanks
Arpeggio offers a nice feature, with possibility to use touch response to modulate whatever you want (let's say Attack or decay, as example)
So, it's very easy to make lively arpeggios very easily
I agree! This is the best demo
@@Michael_Geyre Hi, can it be achieved with the Hydrasynth too? If I remeber it right, the Hydra allows you to modulate the arp settings with the poly aftertouch
@@loopman6466 ah, maybe
Sorry, I can't answer, I've not used the hydra long enough, and I did not use the arp 🤷🏻♂️
absolutely lovely, once again you know how to get the best out of the instrument
Thanks 😊
Exceptional patches and performance!👍
@@DasHemdchen thanks, that's very kind 😊
Great demo. Excellent playing.
Thanks 😊
Beautiful!
Great patches and playing 🙌
thanks, that's very kind :)
This is what we want ! ❤
Great sounds on an epic new instrument Michael!
Thanks 😊
Que c'est beau, une pure Merveille le Polybrute 12 !!! Je tiens à te féliciter Michael pour ta superbe démonstration, je suis totalement sous le charme de ce synthétiseur ❤️ Bravo Arturia et bravo à toi !
Merci beaucoup, j'espère que tu vas bien
Best new synth on the market, in my opinion!
GOD - you're costing me GAS this year. You bastard XD. (Good thing I'm selling a golf cart and a few other items in an estate sale) :)
Love it 🤟🏼
Thanks 🤗
Fantastique 🤩
Sweeeeet!❤
Très bonne démo quand on réécoute bravo
Super !!!!! 😎
You play very expressive.
Best Analog Synth ever
tu m'estounes
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@@Michael_Geyre J'en suis tout estourbi
nice!
C'est surtout le son du CS qui fait la différence je pense mais très bonne représentation pour ce clavier merci
Merci 😊
Merci man
Superbe !!!
Merci 😊
Les gens confondent le son et l'expressivité, parce que ça sonne pas du tout comme un CS80! La confusion vient aussi du fait que ce synthé est à l'aise dans les textures, les sweep, etc... nettement plus que dans les basses et les leads. Je ne suis pas fan du grain arturia mais tu as réussi à faire des sons qui me "parlent" musicalement parlant. Donc un grand bravo à toi😉
Merci, après, entre de bonnes mains, ça fait aussi d'excellentes basses et leads
Really good synth, but i Just wish it had Sequential or Oberhiem filters instead. I'm not a fan of Arturias Steiner parker filter.
A Cem filter would have been a nice addition over the original PB too.
Matter of tastes
I don't like much prophets (except old ssm models, or eventually double keyboard prophet 10)
The combination of steiner and ladder vcf makes a very versatile instrument
I can understand people who don't like steiner vcf, well, it has to be used for what it does well 🤷🏻♂️
@@Michael_Geyre Yes I can't say I'm a fan of Arturias Steiner Parker filter.
I much prefer the filters of Oberhiem and sequential.
I'd love to see this synth with Rev 2 filters for example over Steiner parker filters.
Anyways you did a good job with it, nice work.
@maydaygoingdown5602 thanks 😊
What interests you the most ?
Matrix mod or expressiveness?
I've tried to use Osmose keyboard to play my matrix 12, interesting results but touch vibrato does not seem to be a good feature for that purpose (well, in my opinion)
It might be possible to filter midi or disable it, just tried quickly
Anyway, I think we're living a very interesting period, from a synth point of view
Salut Mickael. Bravo pour ta démo. Je suis franchement tenté par ce nouveau PB12, J'ai pas de doute sur l'expressivité mais je me pose la question du clavier. Est il aussi mou que celui de l'Osmose ? J'ai été très perturbé par la sensation du touché au point de le revendre. Le clavier de l'Osmose n'est pas fait pour les petits nerveux comme moi. c'est trop sensible. J'ai peur de retrouver cette même sensation sur ce PB12, C'est difficile de se faire une idée sans pouvoir l'essayer. L'expressivité est mise en avant, je ne vois que des gens qui jouent soft pour mettre en valeur ce clavier mais pour moi ce n'et pas l'atout majeur du polybrute. J'aimerai voir ce que donne un tel clavier sur un jeu rapide ou agressif. Est'ce que l'expressivité est aussi intérréssante dans ces conditions ?
Anything more than strinigy /atmospheric/piano sounds?
Sure, whatever you want, I just wanted to show uses of touch response
J'ai un vieux sg1 d Korg sans After mais je l'adore
Tommy’s theme ❤❤❤
Are you sure ? When ?
Bonne réponse je reviens sur ma position c'est peut être a cause des toucher cs je n'ai pas essayé le 12
Le toucher du Cs80 reste à mon avis inégalé sur un synthé
Je le trouve meilleur que le T8, que le Synclavier, que le K250, que l'osmose, etc ....
good job i subscribe to your channel, thanks for sharing
@@DiegoDeMarcoSandA thanks for subscribing
I could not make new content for a while, I'll do my best to make more videos soon
Hows the keybed. Can it match my Jupiter-X? Man what a sound unbelievable.
Thanks
Keybed action is light
@@Station2Station-du2ghlol , such a troll
@@Michael_Geyrebut it doenst feel cheap in anyway
@@janpieternieman5295 You're asking if the most advanced keyed in the history of synths, which took 2 years to develop in-house, and has 3 axis, velocity, after pressure, channel and poly aftertouch, and can sense 1mm of key initiation, can match a Jupiter-X keyboard. And I'm the troll? It's like asking if an upright piano can match a 9 foot Steinway Model D concert grand.
@@Station2Station-du2gh maybe not a troll but not very respectul since the jpx is a high end synth.
Great demo. How did u get a hold
Of this soo soon!!!
Thanks
I've programmed some of the factory presets 😉
@@Michael_Geyre man this synthesizer will go down as one of the greatest analog synthesizers of all time and brother.. the fact that you played a roll on this is amazing
@synthsamuraiproductions thanks 😊
I feel lucky to have had the opportunity to be part of the birth of such an instrument (and its smaller brother the polybrute)
I'm like most people watching these kinds of videos, a synth geek that has spent his life watching/testing/(eventually) buying too many synths
Giving feedbacks and doing sound design for a synth seemed an unreachable dream, so doing it on such a great instrument....just wow ...
6:21 song name?
Past time Paradise (Stevie Wonder)
Bonjour ceux sont tes presets?
Bonjour, oui, une petite partie
@@Michael_Geyre merci du coup petite question est ce que c'est un nouvel synthé ou bien juste un Polybrute avec 12 voix?
@@Marc_Angel c'est le même avec 12 voix ET un clavier expressif (ce qui est un atout non négligeable)
Dit comme ça, ça semble peu spectaculaire mais en y regardant bien, c'étaient à peu près les mêmes différences entre un Cs60 et un Cs80
La plus grande polyphonie permet de faire des layers très riches sans problèmes de polyphonie, et le clavier expressif permet des choses un peu à la manière d'un Osmose, mais sur un synthé analogique très puissant et avec un super son
I wonder if - apart from the keyboard, added voices and price - the original is good enough
Well, depends of your needs
The original is still a fantastic instrument !!
Rest assured. The original Polybrute is a better instrument than this.
@@thejollyjoker187 based on ?
There is nothing you can do on the original that you can't do with the Pb12
@@Michael_Geyre Indeed, but the old one was pretty looking and inviting, whereas the new one is ugly as cat vomit.
@@thejollyjoker187 matter of tastes, having both, I think the 12 voices is more lovely 🤷🏻♂️
Restera le graine de son des vintage avec des multi effets
Sinon c'est une belle machine assez Joly
Je pense aussi comme le dx1 chromas
Oui, le chroma, c'est vrai
Le toucher du Dx1 m'a un peu déçu
Le pitch blender fait un peu trop de chose sur cette machine il permet de jouer toust seul
Video quality is bad but fortunately audio quality is good :D I was afraid that it was recorded with camera microphone like some videos ;)
Thanks, I'm like you, I hate that
Demoing an instrument must have a decent sound
@@Michael_Geyre Why? Sound is important in instruments demos, that's what we looking for
7:04 OB-X.
Oberheim are very good to make that kind of sounds (maybe the best), but are not as expressive
C'est surtout mieux parce ce que c'est neuf
Cava faire mal au vintage
Franchement, vu les prix atteints par les vénérables ancêtres, je trouve ça pas dommage
@@Michael_Geyre ça prend des empleut de mesurer surtout pour les faire réparer y son souvent mou au toche
@@user-uk5xj8yb7e vous semblez avoir eu accès à beaucoup d'instruments rares
mmah.... mi sembra una tastierina...
Tout ces nouveaux After touche ne son pas aussi convaincant que ceux des cs Yamaha moin Vivant
Un contrôleur moins vivant ?
Excusez-moi, mais en ce qui me concerne, ça n'a pas vraiment de sens
Ensuite "les Cs" franchement (et pour les avoir eus) hormis le 80, les claviers sont vraiment pas terribles
Alors, que le rendu semble moins vivant, à la limite, si vous voulez
Le toucher du Cs80 est bien plus lourd que celui du Pb12, et permet plus facilement d'expression sur l'aftertouch (encore qu'avec un peu d'entraînement ...)
Ensuite, le Pb12 est nettement plus stable que le Cs80, il faut donc recréer l'instabilité artificiellement
Je trouve les résultats plutôt convaincants et vous avez parfaitement le droit de ne pas être de mon avis
En ce qui me concernent, j'ai les 2, comme ça c'est réglé
Bonne musique à vous
Lose the now redundant morph pad and make it 16 voices with 73 keys...
No,rather the OB-X8
That's your opinion
They're very different instruments
I have a feeling this synth will go down in synth history as the most overhyped, most overpriced, ugliest-sounding ever and ugliest-looking ever synth of all times. Unless Arturia releases something worse than this..
@thejollyjoker187 it's your right to be wrong
@@Michael_Geyre Yeah, I'll just wait for Arturia to release a keyboard controller-only of this, it's the only thing worthwhile.
@@thejollyjoker187 that's your opinion
Anyway, have fun
Y faudra si faire s'enlever des yeux ces vieux synthé qu'on croit irremplaçable par leur look et leur popularité
Polybrute sound is not as inspiring as the new TEO 5
It is your opinion
Beautiful!