Whats Going On Traders! Thanks for tuning into my channel it's and absolute blessing to be able to wake up and do what I love! and help traders all over the world! If you have any questions please feel free to direct message me here in our fee stock trading chatroom! bit.ly/2QzitUq If you want to connect via FACEBOOK enter our Stock Trading Group Here! bit.ly/2Qdxo7Q "Cut losses quick, take some profit quick, let some profit run"
great video. Everything in the market was a mystery until started learning about market makers and the psychology. Only then could I start to really see what's going on. It's funny, many of the things I learned in the two trading schools I joined I didn't understand UNTIL I figured this part out. I think the reason most trading schools don't teach it is because the traders doing the teaching understand it at some instinctive level - particularly the ones who are self-taught.
I don’t use stop loss for this reason and I don’t like getting up at 4 am either. I’m proactive with my trading and it’s work. When I get those big wins then I take a break and it’s well deserved.
Small thing to point out is when you set a stop loss, it's also in the level 2 order books which institutions and other retail investors have access to. It's pretty much public. When an institution dives for stop losses they sell to a point where the first stops trigger subsequent waves of stops below. They can buy up the liquidity at average down prices instead of averaging up.
This is exactly what has me up over 125% in the market over the last 12 months. Investors are taught how to lose money by playing the cards the way the market maker big money folks taught them to play. I’ve chosen to do the opposite and now I make more trading stocks than in developing software and running my business. Facts!
Great explanation of how markets actually work! Most folks are too focused on magical indicators without a basic knowledge of market mechanics/behaviors. This knowledge, proper funding and risk management offers the potential to make this business a career. Thanks for an honest effort to educate! All the best! 💯
Great video Conner! This happens a lot just after the market opens. If something shoots straight up, then you know MMs want to sell. If something is getting slammed, then the MMs want to buy.
This video teaches you why markets stop you out not how. How do they actually do it? What are the actions taken to cause the price to break down through that resistance?
Two thumbs up👍👍 Good stuff and professionals and experts must agree. However, if stoplosses are your go to play, try using the ATR Average True Range, of the daily price movement of a stock. Example if the daily price Range is $5, then your stoploss would be $6 below your entry, giving your trade a better chance at working out to your advantage. ✌😎
This guy knows what he's talking about. The market makers have to grab inventory, below, in order to go up. Funny thing though: I call your "selling zone" the "buying zone" -- because that's where I buy. hehe. They just grab underneath and run the top (or at least go back up TO the top). And you buy the grab with the big boys.
Excellent explanation my friend, this is what I trade, no buying or selling until I see the liquidity grabs! One of my mentors was the late great Tom Williams!
I suggest you should give more explanation on this topic. This video is not enough. Actually I am working in Lahore Stock Exchange Limited. We use Metatrader 5. When one Broker is having only 5 to ten clients and they are moving orders between them
This video is a bit misguided. Market makers are too busy making markets and the algos are too busy front running Robinhood order flow to care about your stops. No one cares if you placed your stop at the end of a Batman pattern that only you and a few hundred lucky people see. The markets are just moving towards liquidity (orders that want to do business) and if you’re placing your stop there, then the market is working efficiently.
great video I feel like a lot clicked with me because I've often sold positions for little to nothing after riding it down past -50% only for it to come back up. When you take the emotion out of a trade completely you are able to watch it be red for a while to live to see it turn green and go the way you wanted it to.
I have just started using this approach and have been making some big money and just could not understand why. Now I do! Thanks for the enlightenment. Look forward to more of the good stuff
Honestly, to kind of counter market maker's strategy, it's good to not set stop loses BUT to set take profits. Because then you are creating more liquidity in the place that you want price to move. And market makers see liquidity pools, they don't see if a specific person is in long or short position, they don't "hunt" anyone per se, they hunt liquidity. Of course, as an alternative to stop loses, you can use a platform sending price alerts. But that requires to perform an action manually, any time when needed. Or to simply not use leverage or use so low leverage that price probably won't move to liquidation price.
So what the solution Connor? Having a Lower stop would leave you susceptible to other people’s habits and stops causing high liquidity in that “sell zone” right. So are you suggesting setting stops higher than normal? What could one retail trader do with this information in mind, to play it to their advantage
It depends with your trading strategy...i do trader most of the time over might gapping up within 15mns of the bell rang.I watch for the breakout with 1mns chat...i use market buy and market sell.No stop loss.And always i check the news or catalyst for why the stock has gapped up.
Three_quarters of the way through, I got it. This just really blew the doors down, so to speak. Now I understand why a stock could still breach 'support' after an interval of trading neutral. This is likely one of a series of videos that I should have been watching the moment that I made a decision to trade.
Agree with your post, every retail trader should know this, rather than learning the hard way, or guessing no immediate chart movements. Do things the opposite of what majority traders do, and you'll win more than you'll lose.
Love this video and every retail trader should know this, rather than learning the hard way, or guessing no immediate chart movements. Do things the opposite of what majority traders do, and you'll win more than you'll lose.
Some people put way too much emphasis on risk management and protecting profits but you gotta let your trade breathe or out smarting these people trying to hit your stop. Playing defense is important but do it in smarter ways. Don't over trade, decrease lot size, take better quality trades, etc.
This is good and very correct. A couple of things I would add. FIrst liquidity is provided on both sides of the market hence these entities can be on both sides of the market. To move the market either way all they do is add or take off orders which is why the "open" is very risky to trade. The same goes for the news. Ever had the newsprint one way and the market spikes one way then whips back the other way even though it made no sense? Right, that is the stop hunting going on. If something is very obvious (like say a pattern that everyone sees) you are better off doing the opposite. That is why trading with all these guru's is so hard. You won't get the same fills and in scalping that is all it takes to turn your account red. Trade copiers are the same which is why they never work in the long run. Good post.
I was, literally, complaining about this to a coworker yesterday. I've been stopped out 3-4 times the past week trading the micro emini Dow futures, only to see it bounce right after. This happened twice just yesterday. I've heard about stop-loss algo hunters, but this makes much more sense. Great video, thanks!
Dude, the graphic represents an accumulation phase for the MMs, most of the stop losses are ABOVE the sawtooth, adding fuel to the move up after accumulation. Most of the MMs buying is fulfilled within the sawtooth range, there is a buying climax that may see prices dip lower for a final clean up, but that is to trick sellers into the market one last time before heading up, and yes it may stop out a few buyers too but that is not the main purpose.
Lol. I used to fall for these big money games all the time. After a while, it becomes obvious when you have a winning stock and see the same exact pattern everyday for a couple weeks. I have a penny stock that rose a couple hundred % over 3 days then suddenly dropped like 60% on crap volume. I actually lol when I saw my account down 10s of thousands because I knew exactly which stock was manipulated so that tons of people got their stop losses triggered by the MMs. I held firm and soon enough it recovered over 50%.
Your opening comment contradicts your point, if retail traders as a small flea, How would the Market makers get enough stocks from us? and HOW do they lower the price? you lower the price by selling (contradicts their goal in your example),
Great video here, and very eye opening for me, and I can see this happening, looking back on past trades. Time to make some adjustments for me. QUESTION -- who do "market makers" work for ? and where do they get their money to buy huge positions ? I'm under the impression they work for large banks, but from doing some reading, they can work for private companies who are affiliated with brokers and wealth fund companies -- does anybody know the answer to this question ? I find it puzzling ???
Agree with your post, every retail trader should know this, rather than learning the hard way, or guessing no immediate chart movements. Do things the opposite of what majority traders do, and you'll win more than you'll lose.
I have to say, I have heard a lot of garbage online. The people that know what's going on all say the boiler room is the real deal, I was not disappointed, awesome content on trading psychology, I am now subscribed.
Good video buddy. I tell people all the time to just go with the flow and don't try to fight the market. Ride the pumps, get in after its confirmed and get out before everyone else takes profit. Follow the big money and trade against retail money.
This is such a huge point. Understanding how market makers think is a big piece of trading that we are not taught. I also wonder if a lot of these strategies are taught the same on purpose to create a predictable retail sector
I have been trading opposite the news in conjunction with pivot points for entry. And have been making 1000pips a month consistently from Eurusd and audusd for 12 months
Absolutely love this video and glad I saw it before using real money. Would love to see some real world examples of this if you could find the time to do a part 2 video Thanks
Brilliant! Do you think the big banks are trying to short Tesla enough to hit some of people's stop loss so they can get more shares to buy cheaper on the s&p add day? I think smaller fish should avoid buying on margin and using stop losses due to big bank manipulation. If you just buy without margin and hold so they can't short it enough to force you to sell, I think the small fish can win more that way. We need more people to HOLD instead of freaking out and selling on a big drop. People using margin have no choice and get caught in a forced sale.
Yeah, so I totally get it. It's good to hear your explanation but it confirms what I've seen many times. What I've noticed is a drastic move in one direction is often followed by a drastic move in the other direction. And many people are left speechless (and with a loss) because they can't believe a stock has exploded to the upside after it just had a technical breakdown and stopped them out. This is why I've had to adjust the way I use technical analysis. But despite this, it's important to remember, buying something AFTER it breaks support is dangerous. Maybe you could nibble on it as a speculative play. But there's no guarantee a breakdown really is the big banks gaming it so they can buy. It could continue down. So I think out of all this, the best plan here is to watch for stocks that break support and then recover. That's when you buy and do so before it breaks out.
Agree with your post, every retail trader should know this, rather than learning the hard way, or guessing no immediate chart movements. Do things the opposite of what majority traders do, and you'll win more than you'll lose.
@Rami Serhan As bids/offers begin stacking above/below what some may think are support/resistance, they become obvious pools of liquidity. So, IF one is experienced at reading that flow and/or programs are reading it, then "yes" our stops are visible.👍
@@morehn competition should not be allowed to handle your data...it's like Amazon having your sales data... Webull trading is on some weird shit... invisible sellers, level 2 data not showing the time and sales of my trades, allowed trading with myself but split my orders of 50 and 50 into like 20 trades caused 3 day trades with 2 clicks...best bid don't reflect my better bid/ask, the invisible traders can only be found by placing a order and seeing what prices it executes. price ladder never shows anything, level 2 often won't show my bids and asks even when lots 100s...seeing a lot lot lot of manipulation by webull and who ever they deal with...
@@wesparker9018 the market maker represents the trading exchange itself. They are not necessarily trading against you. They have the trade data you entered so that they can keep an orderly market and provide liquidity. You have to understand these facts in order to know how the market works. If you don't understand them, then you are uninformed as a trader.
I think this is exactly what is going on with ROKU for example. Watch the 127-128 area. I wouldn't be surprise to see a break down before ER. I even wonder if they are gonna go to 118... Maybe they have accumulated enough stop lost to drop it big. We shall see. Good video !
If you take a position in a company with strong fundamentals, you dont need a stop loss. It's just you will not make profit today but tomorrow or next quarter.
This is one of the best videos I have watched about investing! I totally saw that thing about needing the market to go down in order for people to buy in during the recent Bitcoin crash, it stayed low for a very small amount of time
i believe this might have happened with nvda near the end of the day on friday. touched that support zone several times and i thought once it broke through, i was about to go short. guess what? it went to lower lows and broke the level, but then a huge bounce as i believe all the shorts were stopping out and covering. lol i had a put and it got obliterated. it was in the profit for a while on the liquidity grab phase to the downside though, i should have took profits on it
Great video I started to notice when big players I thought were manipulating a stock that's why I only day trade if it hits my stop once I'm out because I know it's being manipulated some stocks are worse than others but thanks for the validation.
WOOW This video came right on time for me. Thank you for the new perspective you have given me. This totally makes sense now and why I keep running into longer then expected holds as a new swing trader. THANKS!
I agree with this entirely but I have a question, looking at things a bit backwards I have found it to be helpful to look at level two backwards as well, with larger bids being bearish indicators and large asks being bullish zones. Curious what your thoughts are
i agree.... i love seeing big asks get eaten up with what seems like very small orders one twentieth the size and then watch the stock shoot up right after.... one of my favorite things of all in stocks
Very observant S Med . . and I agree. Have seen moves shoot through what appear to be impossible Bid/Ask volumes so many times I'm not even surprised anymore. Lot of faux volumes get posted to fake us out, which later get removed.
So when the US markets are uprising out of thin air, do we have to read that the smart money is splitting large amounts of sell orders from the retail buyers liquidity buying on higher levels ? To sell, the banksters need the sell stop orders of the buyers, right ?
I like these videos that explain the "hidden" market forces in play. I'm not so hot on trying to pick out some candlestick pattern; give me numbers and algebraic variables. (Yes, I do know calculus but I don't see much use for it in chart analysis, for now anyway.)
Question to all. Is it true there are level 4, which shows the average stop lost. Also do the Bloomberg Terminal service have type of Information on stop lost price points.
They know support but do they know stop loss/open sell order volumes? Take SEDG for example.. it "crashes" in low volumes but runs higher and higher overall.. seems like big $ is doing what you say but I suspect support also increases overtime no? so in a sense this is just like "scalping" by big $$?
How does a retail trader see where there are a ton of stop loss orders and limit buy orders? I know we can assume those zones are generally under strong support/resistances but is there anything or anywhere we can see the buy/sell zones that institutions are looking at?
Well, I think there are a number of sollutions: 1) What you said, but this is not a simple thing to do cos you would need more data and statistics. 2) Simply see ranges as "no fly zones" ... just don't trade there, especially if the the range is short. The algos will make you feel dizzy! I you do trade ranges then do it in mayor support and resistance areas since these are by definition already there cos of the big players. 3) One could also reduce trade size to maximize distance to stoploss. 4) If the ranges are long a tight (the longer and tighter the better cos more stoplosses will be places both over and under the range) then catch the breakouts... this works especially well as continuation plays.
Whats Going On Traders! Thanks for tuning into my channel it's and absolute blessing to be able to wake up and do what I love! and help traders all over the world! If you have any questions please feel free to direct message me here in our fee stock trading chatroom! bit.ly/2QzitUq If you want to connect via FACEBOOK enter our Stock Trading Group Here! bit.ly/2Qdxo7Q "Cut losses quick, take some profit quick, let some profit run"
What u think of ontx
Is this the same for forex or do market makers treat prices different in them markets.
great video. Everything in the market was a mystery until started learning about market makers and the psychology. Only then could I start to really see what's going on. It's funny, many of the things I learned in the two trading schools I joined I didn't understand UNTIL I figured this part out. I think the reason most trading schools don't teach it is because the traders doing the teaching understand it at some instinctive level - particularly the ones who are self-taught.
"Cut losses quick." Isn't that exactly the mindset you say not to have at 8:48?
I don’t use stop loss for this reason and I don’t like getting up at 4 am either. I’m proactive with my trading and it’s work. When I get those big wins then I take a break and it’s well deserved.
Same! My wife says I’m crazy yet ur orders get wiped out or not bought 😂
This is so true.. a stop loss is like showing your hand to the institutions
This was 11 minutes of pure Gold! So many ah-ha lightbulbs went off in my head that I nearly blinded myself!
Small thing to point out is when you set a stop loss, it's also in the level 2 order books which institutions and other retail investors have access to. It's pretty much public. When an institution dives for stop losses they sell to a point where the first stops trigger subsequent waves of stops below. They can buy up the liquidity at average down prices instead of averaging up.
Hey man, I found you by accident and this was one of the best videos that Ive seen from anybody on RUclips
This is exactly what has me up over 125% in the market over the last 12 months. Investors are taught how to lose money by playing the cards the way the market maker big money folks taught them to play. I’ve chosen to do the opposite and now I make more trading stocks than in developing software and running my business. Facts!
Can you please teach me your strategy? I’m willing to pay
I knew it was this easy, gonna turn it around from here. When I would usually buy, I sell, and vice versa.
Yes indeed
Great explanation of how markets actually work! Most folks are too focused on magical indicators without a basic knowledge of market mechanics/behaviors. This knowledge, proper funding and risk management offers the potential to make this business a career.
Thanks for an honest effort to educate! All the best! 💯
Great video Conner! This happens a lot just after the market opens. If something shoots straight up, then you know MMs want to sell. If something is getting slammed, then the MMs want to buy.
This video teaches you why markets stop you out not how. How do they actually do it? What are the actions taken to cause the price to break down through that resistance?
Two thumbs up👍👍 Good stuff and professionals and experts must agree. However, if stoplosses are your go to play, try using the ATR Average True Range, of the daily price movement of a stock. Example if the daily price Range is $5, then your stoploss would be $6 below your entry, giving your trade a better chance at working out to your advantage. ✌😎
This guy knows what he's talking about. The market makers have to grab inventory, below, in order to go up. Funny thing though: I call your "selling zone" the "buying zone" -- because that's where I buy. hehe. They just grab underneath and run the top (or at least go back up TO the top). And you buy the grab with the big boys.
Like me, I rarely chase hot stocks. often they are only hot temporarily then they dump It's tricky trying to grab those.
Excellent explanation my friend, this is what I trade, no buying or selling until I see the liquidity grabs! One of my mentors was the late great Tom Williams!
Absolute gem of a video. 9:45 🔥 10:25 Aka Buyin the top and selling the bottom 🥲
I suggest you should give more explanation on this topic. This video is not enough. Actually I am working in Lahore Stock Exchange Limited. We use Metatrader 5. When one Broker is having only 5 to ten clients and they are moving orders between them
yeah I like Conner's content so much that I'm usually hitting the like button first and then watching the video lesson second!
Letss gooooo!!
This video is a bit misguided. Market makers are too busy making markets and the algos are too busy front running Robinhood order flow to care about your stops. No one cares if you placed your stop at the end of a Batman pattern that only you and a few hundred lucky people see. The markets are just moving towards liquidity (orders that want to do business) and if you’re placing your stop there, then the market is working efficiently.
Exactly
@@MasterWestt just play battleship with chart
great video I feel like a lot clicked with me because I've often sold positions for little to nothing after riding it down past -50% only for it to come back up. When you take the emotion out of a trade completely you are able to watch it be red for a while to live to see it turn green and go the way you wanted it to.
I have just started using this approach and have been making some big money and just could not understand why. Now I do! Thanks for the enlightenment. Look forward to more of the good stuff
I have never commented a youtube video, but this was so mindopening. Quality stuff you are explaining bro.
Honestly, to kind of counter market maker's strategy, it's good to not set stop loses BUT to set take profits. Because then you are creating more liquidity in the place that you want price to move.
And market makers see liquidity pools, they don't see if a specific person is in long or short position, they don't "hunt" anyone per se, they hunt liquidity. Of course, as an alternative to stop loses, you can use a platform sending price alerts. But that requires to perform an action manually, any time when needed. Or to simply not use leverage or use so low leverage that price probably won't move to liquidation price.
This video is pure gold. Thank you for taking the time to teach us.
This video is an eye-opener. Man,You have won a new subscriber
So what the solution Connor? Having a Lower stop would leave you susceptible to other people’s habits and stops causing high liquidity in that “sell zone” right. So are you suggesting setting stops higher than normal? What could one retail trader do with this information in mind, to play it to their advantage
It depends with your trading strategy...i do trader most of the time over might gapping up within 15mns of the bell rang.I watch for the breakout with 1mns chat...i use market buy and market sell.No stop loss.And always i check the news or catalyst for why the stock has gapped up.
Three_quarters of the way through, I got it. This just really blew the doors down, so to speak. Now I understand why a stock could still breach 'support' after an interval of trading neutral. This is likely one of a series of videos that I should have been watching the moment that I made a decision to trade.
Agree with your post, every retail trader should know this, rather than learning
the hard way, or guessing no immediate chart movements. Do things the
opposite of what majority traders do, and you'll win more than you'll lose.
Question. Do market makers and big banks short the stock at support so they can buy in later at their price?
this was one of the most informative videos on trading i have seen!! Thank You. . . . Got urself a Sub
The market must keep moving. That's the market makers role to take out stops to unleash liquidity
Love this video and every retail trader should know this, rather than learning
the hard way, or guessing no immediate chart movements. Do things the
opposite of what majority traders do, and you'll win more than you'll lose.
Some people put way too much emphasis on risk management and protecting profits but you gotta let your trade breathe or out smarting these people trying to hit your stop. Playing defense is important but do it in smarter ways. Don't over trade, decrease lot size, take better quality trades, etc.
Nice! Loved it
This is good and very correct. A couple of things I would add. FIrst liquidity is provided on both sides of the market hence these entities can be on both sides of the market. To move the market either way all they do is add or take off orders which is why the "open" is very risky to trade. The same goes for the news. Ever had the newsprint one way and the market spikes one way then whips back the other way even though it made no sense? Right, that is the stop hunting going on. If something is very obvious (like say a pattern that everyone sees) you are better off doing the opposite. That is why trading with all these guru's is so hard. You won't get the same fills and in scalping that is all it takes to turn your account red. Trade copiers are the same which is why they never work in the long run. Good post.
Perfect examples of this today on MSFT in the first 30 minutes while looking at a 1 min chart.
I was, literally, complaining about this to a coworker yesterday. I've been stopped out 3-4 times the past week trading the micro emini Dow futures, only to see it bounce right after. This happened twice just yesterday. I've heard about stop-loss algo hunters, but this makes much more sense.
Great video, thanks!
Dude, the graphic represents an accumulation phase for the MMs, most of the stop losses are ABOVE the sawtooth, adding fuel to the move up after accumulation. Most of the MMs buying is fulfilled within the sawtooth range, there is a buying climax that may see prices dip lower for a final clean up, but that is to trick sellers into the market one last time before heading up, and yes it may stop out a few buyers too but that is not the main purpose.
Amazing really liked this- easiest explanation of liquidity grab 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Probably the best video youve ever made, so much truth here.
Lol. I used to fall for these big money games all the time. After a while, it becomes obvious when you have a winning stock and see the same exact pattern everyday for a couple weeks. I have a penny stock that rose a couple hundred % over 3 days then suddenly dropped like 60% on crap volume. I actually lol when I saw my account down 10s of thousands because I knew exactly which stock was manipulated so that tons of people got their stop losses triggered by the MMs. I held firm and soon enough it recovered over 50%.
I just stumbled upon this video and this was one of the greatest and most insightful videos I’ve seen. Thanks for this. New subscriber here.
Your opening comment contradicts your point, if retail traders as a small flea, How would the Market makers get enough stocks from us? and HOW do they lower the price? you lower the price by selling (contradicts their goal in your example),
Great video here, and very eye opening for me, and I can see this happening, looking
back on past trades. Time to make some adjustments for me. QUESTION -- who do
"market makers" work for ? and where do they get their money to buy huge positions ?
I'm under the impression they work for large banks, but from doing some reading, they
can work for private companies who are affiliated with brokers and wealth fund
companies -- does anybody know the answer to this question ? I find it puzzling ???
Amazing video. Finally I understand why market goes against me, almost all the time. Thank you so much!!!
Agree with your post, every retail trader should know this, rather than learning
the hard way, or guessing no immediate chart movements. Do things the
opposite of what majority traders do, and you'll win more than you'll lose.
Two thumbs up! Great content and verifiable by those in the know. You are appreciated. Thanks!
Excellent explanation mate. Simple and obvious once you look from the side of big money.
Ok listened to the whole ..u on top of it...💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Connor you are very wise. So clear and concise explanation. Thank You
When you're an Insider . . easy to understand ' The Game ' . . zzzzzz
I only buy near support on retracements and above resistance on breakouts.
Statistically, how many breakouts fail?
And forex doesn't even compare to stocks. It's way worse for breakout trading.
You rock Conner, clear as day explanation!
Concise and clear explanation, thanks and well done.
This is an EXCELLENT VIDEO - simple and very powerful !!!
I have to say, I have heard a lot of garbage online. The people that know what's going on all say the boiler room is the real deal, I was not disappointed, awesome content on trading psychology, I am now subscribed.
Good video buddy. I tell people all the time to just go with the flow and don't try to fight the market. Ride the pumps, get in after its confirmed and get out before everyone else takes profit. Follow the big money and trade against retail money.
Loved it boss . Very crucial piece of information that I knew but never looked at it this way or implemented it accordingly.
Simple but explained.....EXCELLENTLY..............love your videos
This is such a huge point. Understanding how market makers think is a big piece of trading that we are not taught. I also wonder if a lot of these strategies are taught the same on purpose to create a predictable retail sector
10:10 his voice started to pitch up and down in sequence with that chart 📈
Perfect explanation! Wish I had learned this info a year ago!
Learning never stops! Bless
Great explanation Connor, many thanks!!!
I have been trading opposite the news in conjunction with pivot points for entry. And have been making 1000pips a month consistently from Eurusd and audusd for 12 months
Great explanation! Thank you!
Absolutely love this video and glad I saw it before using real money. Would love to see some real world examples of this if you could find the time to do a part 2 video
Thanks
Will put this up later
watch these cause its fun to listen to furus that have never laid eyes upon an exchanges auction system manual.
Brilliant! Do you think the big banks are trying to short Tesla enough to hit some of people's stop loss so they can get more shares to buy cheaper on the s&p add day? I think smaller fish should avoid buying on margin and using stop losses due to big bank manipulation. If you just buy without margin and hold so they can't short it enough to force you to sell, I think the small fish can win more that way. We need more people to HOLD instead of freaking out and selling on a big drop. People using margin have no choice and get caught in a forced sale.
The value this video has is great. Thanks
Would love even more about the deep market psychology
Great explanation of what moves the markets and displays Price Action undercurrents........ Cheers!
Last 2 uploads are very helpful thanks man
Yeah, so I totally get it. It's good to hear your explanation but it confirms what I've seen many times. What I've noticed is a drastic move in one direction is often followed by a drastic move in the other direction. And many people are left speechless (and with a loss) because they can't believe a stock has exploded to the upside after it just had a technical breakdown and stopped them out. This is why I've had to adjust the way I use technical analysis. But despite this, it's important to remember, buying something AFTER it breaks support is dangerous. Maybe you could nibble on it as a speculative play. But there's no guarantee a breakdown really is the big banks gaming it so they can buy. It could continue down. So I think out of all this, the best plan here is to watch for stocks that break support and then recover. That's when you buy and do so before it breaks out.
Agree with your post, every retail trader should know this, rather than learning
the hard way, or guessing no immediate chart movements. Do things the
opposite of what majority traders do, and you'll win more than you'll lose.
True story. Happened to me twice where the price went down exactly to my stop, took me out and resumed its upswing! I think they can see our stops!
Twice! Hahah
Happens all the time
@Rami Serhan As bids/offers begin stacking above/below what some may think are support/resistance, they become obvious pools of liquidity. So, IF one is experienced at reading that flow and/or programs are reading it, then "yes" our stops are visible.👍
No, market makers actually do have access to your stop loss numbers.
@@morehn competition should not be allowed to handle your data...it's like Amazon having your sales data... Webull trading is on some weird shit... invisible sellers, level 2 data not showing the time and sales of my trades, allowed trading with myself but split my orders of 50 and 50 into like 20 trades caused 3 day trades with 2 clicks...best bid don't reflect my better bid/ask, the invisible traders can only be found by placing a order and seeing what prices it executes. price ladder never shows anything, level 2 often won't show my bids and asks even when lots 100s...seeing a lot lot lot of manipulation by webull and who ever they deal with...
@@wesparker9018 the market maker represents the trading exchange itself. They are not necessarily trading against you. They have the trade data you entered so that they can keep an orderly market and provide liquidity.
You have to understand these facts in order to know how the market works. If you don't understand them, then you are uninformed as a trader.
I think this is exactly what is going on with ROKU for example. Watch the 127-128 area. I wouldn't be surprise to see a break down before ER. I even wonder if they are gonna go to 118... Maybe they have accumulated enough stop lost to drop it big. We shall see. Good video !
Brilliant video concept, thanks again for ur screener every day. I use it Daily.
If you take a position in a company with strong fundamentals, you dont need a stop loss. It's just you will not make profit today but tomorrow or next quarter.
This is one of the best videos I have watched about investing! I totally saw that thing about needing the market to go down in order for people to buy in during the recent Bitcoin crash, it stayed low for a very small amount of time
i believe this might have happened with nvda near the end of the day on friday. touched that support zone several times and i thought once it broke through, i was about to go short. guess what? it went to lower lows and broke the level, but then a huge bounce as i believe all the shorts were stopping out and covering. lol i had a put and it got obliterated. it was in the profit for a while on the liquidity grab phase to the downside though, i should have took profits on it
Great video like always!
Thanks Connor, what I dont get is how they push the price down - THANKS FOR YOUR ANSWER
They short it short term you dont need much to bring it down on any giving day
Great video I started to notice when big players I thought were manipulating a stock that's why I only day trade if it hits my stop once I'm out because I know it's being manipulated some stocks are worse than others but thanks for the validation.
How do you know the accumulative pressures that create the triggering factors that changes direction and for how long of any product.
Good stuff. Clear way to explain things
This guy knows the game!
you are right, we are so predictable.
WOOW This video came right on time for me. Thank you for the new perspective you have given me. This totally makes sense now and why I keep running into longer then expected holds as a new swing trader. THANKS!
Yeah, but what is the solution? Not having stops or having wide stops? It would be the receipt of blowing up your account.
This made very much sense. Thank you.
Fantastic explanation. Thanks
I agree with this entirely but I have a question, looking at things a bit backwards I have found it to be helpful to look at level two backwards as well, with larger bids being bearish indicators and large asks being bullish zones. Curious what your thoughts are
i agree.... i love seeing big asks get eaten up with what seems like very small orders one twentieth the size and then watch the stock shoot up right after.... one of my favorite things of all in stocks
Very observant S Med . . and I agree. Have seen moves shoot through what appear to be impossible Bid/Ask volumes so many times I'm not even surprised anymore. Lot of faux volumes get posted to fake us out, which later get removed.
So when the US markets are uprising out of thin air, do we have to read that the smart money is splitting large amounts of sell orders from the retail buyers liquidity buying on higher levels ? To sell, the banksters need the sell stop orders of the buyers, right ?
I like these videos that explain the "hidden" market forces in play. I'm not so hot on trying to pick out some candlestick pattern; give me numbers and algebraic variables. (Yes, I do know calculus but I don't see much use for it in chart analysis, for now anyway.)
Love to hear more!
This is hands-down the most helpful video I’ve watched all year. Thank you
Another pristine gem from The Boiler Room!
My question is; HOW do they manipulate the price? I don't understand.
Your videos are very informing. You are a very good teacher. I am glad I subscribed to your channel. Thank you
Question to all. Is it true there are level 4, which shows the average stop lost. Also do the Bloomberg Terminal service have type of Information on stop lost price points.
They know support but do they know stop loss/open sell order volumes? Take SEDG for example.. it "crashes" in low volumes but runs higher and higher overall.. seems like big $ is doing what you say but I suspect support also increases overtime no? so in a sense this is just like "scalping" by big $$?
How does a retail trader see where there are a ton of stop loss orders and limit buy orders?
I know we can assume those zones are generally under strong support/resistances but is there anything or anywhere we can see the buy/sell zones that institutions are looking at?
SUCH AN EYE OPENER! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
In that case, these liquidity zones should be points of entry....
Well, I think there are a number of sollutions:
1) What you said, but this is not a simple thing to do cos you would need more data and statistics.
2) Simply see ranges as "no fly zones" ... just don't trade there, especially if the the range is short. The algos will make you feel dizzy! I you do trade ranges then do it in mayor support and resistance areas since these are by definition already there cos of the big players.
3) One could also reduce trade size to maximize distance to stoploss.
4) If the ranges are long a tight (the longer and tighter the better cos more stoplosses will be places both over and under the range) then catch the breakouts... this works especially well as continuation plays.
This is a zero sum game! Thank you for the video Boiler Room!
thats why i dont day trade large caps. in penny stocks u must have tight SL however and they give better risk rewards.