I don't think she understood the question properly. I think she thought he was asking her if France should be ashamed of the rapes having taken place not on the outcome of the trail and it's weak sentencing as she didn't mention the sentencing in her response.
Had Pelicot chosen to remain anonymous she would have been relegated to a mere statistic in the annals of sexual assault against women. Instead, her trailblazing move to put herself to public scrutiny whilst exposing the criminal acts of the perpetrators has brought forth new talking points about sexual violence against women. May her valour, grit and determination not be in vain.
@JPnielsenI’m sure she would have rather this had never happened to her. She has to live with this for the rest of her life. Your complete lack of empathy is appalling
Her face plastered everywhere but she's not the rapist.....the rapists' faces no where to be seen..her children given full exposure not the families of the rapists..so the men still being protected..
Your comment is perpetuating the very thing Gisele Pelicot tried to fight by making her trial public. She said it was to shift the shame from the victim to the only place it belongs - the perpetrator. This idea that being identified as a rape victim should be something to be ashamed of, to the point that her children should be hidden and spared. Rape victims absolutely deserve anonymity if they want it - but the reason so many do is because it's seen as something to be mocked and ashamed of. I absolutely understand where you're coming from, but please interrogate why you feel incensed that "her face is plastered everywhere", when it was by choice and when the articles are about her bravery and the gratefulness many feel towards her. She is being lauded as a hero, her children are being applauded for being by her side. Don't dismiss that, much less be angry on her behalf. Victims never get to be the main character in their own story. Mass shootings, serial killers, etc - it's always all about the perpetrators. This story is unique - this woman gets to rise from tragedy. She didn't wanna be the silent princess in a tower waiting for someone to save her, she made a choice to not hide, to act and be the hero herself. Don't take that away from her by suggesting the media is bad for framing her that way. Don't equate being identified as a rape victim with being humiliated. That mindset is what needs changing. Also, the man is being protected here, but he's been freely shown in a lot of media, his identity has not broadly been protected. This idea that his should be the face of this trial and not hers is sad. If she had wanted anonymity, then it would absolutely be different - but that's not the choice she made. She made an incredibly difficult choice, one that made a profound impact. She has been met with applause every time she exited to courthouse, women are giving her flowers, she is receiving 100s of letters from around the world. For once a rape victim got to choose what her own story would be and this woman turned what would have been the brutal tale of the betrayals and humiliations she suffered into a tale about a hero who overcame impossible suffering and turned it into so much dignity and strength she inspired an entire nation. By refusing to hide her face, by insisting the shame is his alone, she stole back the dignity he tried to rob her off. Don't make that a bad thing.
its a long time and remember he was her husband so he would expect a bit of hanky panky but it was probly against the law and you know what lawyers are like
This blows my flippin mind! France, YOU need to do better. I genuinely believed as a British citizen that France had much better laws to protect woman and I am appalled by how rape is being clearly dismissed just because a woman can’t say stop or no and how date rape drugs seem to be an excusable defence to commit rape. France! Do BETTER!
The same happened in Britain to thousands of white working class girls over a period of many decades and the attitude is still largely one of indifference. The selective outrage tells us a lot about the sheer hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy of human beings. Their concern and compassion is 99% posturing and can be switched on and off like a switch.
I am so moved by Gisele and the way she handled the whole situation. I was moved to tears with the cheers from the crowd that met her as she walked away from the court. I send my deepest thanks to all the people - mostly women - that cheered and supported Gisele. You too have made a big difference to the world 🥰
I really don’t like it when journos ask a question, don’t get the answer they want and then try to cut the interviewee. As did this guy towards the end of the interview when he asked if French people were ashamed of this case. When Rachel answered this is a global problem and started giving the example of the MeToo movement that started in America, the interviewer started saying Ok, and then repeated ok. She only had a few more seconds to speak, why not let her complete such an important answer!?! THIS IS PART OF THE PROBLEM. THIS is what we have to deal with if changes are going to be made. No more sweeping things under the rug. No more hiding behind thinly veiled excuses such as ‘but we were running out of time’!
@@thethinkingman- I doubt it. I know a lot of ladies her age and believe me they are NOT looking for new husbands .... and that's without having gone through what this lady has endured.
@JPnielsenShe was brave enough to actually speak out and get the ball rolling on french sexual violence laws. She's put herself in a spot where she is being constantly criticised by rapey/sad men so she can make a difference. the woman is braver than you ever could be and we both know that :)
Whilst I understand the concept of a maximum sentence for a particular offence being 20 years. What I cannot understand is how France cannot apply the concept of consecutive sentences. In this country (UK) even if you are dealing with an offence that has a low maximum sentence, there is nothing to prevent consecutive sentences with multiple offences having occurred over time. So I don’t understand why his sentence is limited to 20 years. It must mean that France doesn’t implement the very basic concept of consecutive sentences. Quite absurd if that is true.
But lets give a shout out to the man who respected women enough to make a fuss. The astute security guard. Without him and his quick actions, none of this beastly crime would be known🙌🏿
Vingt ans dans la prison ne suffit pas pour la punition. Dans l'Etats Unis, la conspiration aurait ete l'accusation contre tous les cinquante et un hommes pour la vie dans la prison.
@@RUclipsmessedupmyhandleyou’re so correct! One is in fact being inaugurated in January as president, the 34 felons and sx abuse leader of the “free world” not. I guess if you’re wealthy in the USA they let you delay the process so much you can then run for president and get away with serving any kind of time in prison. He did say in one of his notorious videos “Access Hollywood” words to the effect that when you’re a star you can get away with anything, he was proven correct.
Wow! Her husband is a real PoS. I find myself in surprise that France, enlightened in so many ways, needing so much progress to catch up with its peers. Best time to start is now.
The burden of proof must still be on the accuser, and we should resist any changes to this principle. But if the proof is met then the accused should face lengthy sentencing.
A terrible case and at least the perpetrators have faced justice, and hopefully the French will examine how they treat women in future... Strange how a few women being graped by people known to them has made news around the world, yet THOUSANDS of young GIRLS being graped over decades, covered up by the police, (who may also have been perpetrators) and even MPs being sacked, hasn't led to ANY meaningful changes in the UK, or help for the victims...
What's even more worrying is that terrible crimes such as these carried out by gangs don't receive the right level of attention in the media, or by the police .This means many more women and young girls will be affected and the perpetrators walk free.We must do all we can to keep women and especially young vulnerable girls safe from these crimes.All to often over decades these things seem to be covered up.
I am not responsible for another man's behaviour. What's worse is that women choose bad men as their sexual partners but then blame all other men for their bad choices.
I am worried there will be an over reaction that will have the opposite effect they are hoping for. Punishment for all men for the actions of a few will just make things worse, education and development of empathy is the only way to change societal norms.
What about the hypocrites who hide behind religion to abuse children and women? I’m sure they all started off saying they were followers of Jesus. Overly religious people are the worse when it comes to abuse because they are trusted. I never trust people preaching about religion no matter the religion. There are good people all over the world who are not religious and many don’t believe in any religion. It’s all about morals yes, but it’s all about knowing what is wrong.
All French people ... Please send an email like this to your parish priests: Voudriez-vous faire en sorte que tous vos paroissiens sachent qu’il n’est pas acceptable que des hommes droguent des femmes, les violent ou les filment ? Veuillez vous assurer que cette valeur est enseignée à tous dès le plus jeune âge. Merci bien. English: Would you ensure that all your parishioners learn that it is not acceptable for men to drug women and rape them or film them? Please ensure that this value is taught to all at a young age.
It took her four years in therapy before she was persuaded by her family to go ahead and prosecute her husband and his vile actions. You should find out the facts before commenting on a serious case like this.
@@BrendaHeeligan I already said that I didn't understand how it took so long. Now I know,thank you ,and I don't need you to tell me how and what I should comment on at any time.
9:37 but other countries are shocked that French laws aren't tougher against sexual violence. yes, you should be ashamed!
I don't think she understood the question properly. I think she thought he was asking her if France should be ashamed of the rapes having taken place not on the outcome of the trail and it's weak sentencing as she didn't mention the sentencing in her response.
Wake up laws are designed to Protect the elites
Had Pelicot chosen to remain anonymous she would have been relegated to a mere statistic in the annals of sexual assault against women. Instead, her trailblazing move to put herself to public scrutiny whilst exposing the criminal acts of the perpetrators has brought forth new talking points about sexual violence against women. May her valour, grit and determination not be in vain.
Yeah... Plus if she'd remained anonymous she wouldn't have got all the fame and praise
Choose decent men as your sexual partners.
@JPnielsenI’m sure she would have rather this had never happened to her.
She has to live with this for the rest of her life.
Your complete lack of empathy is appalling
Pity the UK media didn't give rolling coverage to the thousands of working class girls abused by Asian gangs in the UK.
Pity the UK media didn't give rolling coverage to the thousands of working class girls abused by "certain" gangs in the UK.
Her face plastered everywhere but she's not the rapist.....the rapists' faces no where to be seen..her children given full exposure not the families of the rapists..so the men still being protected..
Your comment is perpetuating the very thing Gisele Pelicot tried to fight by making her trial public. She said it was to shift the shame from the victim to the only place it belongs - the perpetrator. This idea that being identified as a rape victim should be something to be ashamed of, to the point that her children should be hidden and spared. Rape victims absolutely deserve anonymity if they want it - but the reason so many do is because it's seen as something to be mocked and ashamed of. I absolutely understand where you're coming from, but please interrogate why you feel incensed that "her face is plastered everywhere", when it was by choice and when the articles are about her bravery and the gratefulness many feel towards her. She is being lauded as a hero, her children are being applauded for being by her side. Don't dismiss that, much less be angry on her behalf.
Victims never get to be the main character in their own story. Mass shootings, serial killers, etc - it's always all about the perpetrators. This story is unique - this woman gets to rise from tragedy. She didn't wanna be the silent princess in a tower waiting for someone to save her, she made a choice to not hide, to act and be the hero herself. Don't take that away from her by suggesting the media is bad for framing her that way. Don't equate being identified as a rape victim with being humiliated. That mindset is what needs changing. Also, the man is being protected here, but he's been freely shown in a lot of media, his identity has not broadly been protected. This idea that his should be the face of this trial and not hers is sad. If she had wanted anonymity, then it would absolutely be different - but that's not the choice she made. She made an incredibly difficult choice, one that made a profound impact. She has been met with applause every time she exited to courthouse, women are giving her flowers, she is receiving 100s of letters from around the world. For once a rape victim got to choose what her own story would be and this woman turned what would have been the brutal tale of the betrayals and humiliations she suffered into a tale about a hero who overcame impossible suffering and turned it into so much dignity and strength she inspired an entire nation. By refusing to hide her face, by insisting the shame is his alone, she stole back the dignity he tried to rob her off. Don't make that a bad thing.
@notcompletelynormal yes, i am glad to see the survivor, the heroine, the mentor, the inspiration, not the nightmare.
it looks like plaster but she is not very young
20 years is a shocking sentence for such an horrendous crime
its a long time and remember he was her husband so he would expect a bit of hanky panky
but it was probly against the law and you know what lawyers are like
This blows my flippin mind! France, YOU need to do better. I genuinely believed as a British citizen that France had much better laws to protect woman and I am appalled by how rape is being clearly dismissed just because a woman can’t say stop or no and how date rape drugs seem to be an excusable defence to commit rape.
France! Do BETTER!
The same happened in Britain to thousands of white working class girls over a period of many decades and the attitude is still largely one of indifference. The selective outrage tells us a lot about the sheer hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy of human beings. Their concern and compassion is 99% posturing and can be switched on and off like a switch.
I am so moved by Gisele and the way she handled the whole situation. I was moved to tears with the cheers from the crowd that met her as she walked away from the court. I send my deepest thanks to all the people - mostly women - that cheered and supported Gisele. You too have made a big difference to the world 🥰
I really don’t like it when journos ask a question, don’t get the answer they want and then try to cut the interviewee. As did this guy towards the end of the interview when he asked if French people were ashamed of this case. When Rachel answered this is a global problem and started giving the example of the MeToo movement that started in America, the interviewer started saying Ok, and then repeated ok. She only had a few more seconds to speak, why not let her complete such an important answer!?!
THIS IS PART OF THE PROBLEM. THIS is what we have to deal with if changes are going to be made.
No more sweeping things under the rug.
No more hiding behind thinly veiled excuses such as ‘but we were running out of time’!
Gisele Pelicot: Brave, dignified and elegant lady, and a hero. Person of the year.
Chose a bad man as her husband. What's to be celebrated?
the problem is she will want a new husband now but it will be very hard to find one
@@thethinkingman- I doubt it. I know a lot of ladies her age and believe me they are NOT looking for new husbands .... and that's without having gone through what this lady has endured.
A Very brave lady. Beautiful inside and out.❤
she is increadible... l love her
What's she done that's incredible..? Pressed charges against someone that assaulted her? That's fairly standard practice
@JPnielsenShe was brave enough to actually speak out and get the ball rolling on french sexual violence laws. She's put herself in a spot where she is being constantly criticised by rapey/sad men so she can make a difference. the woman is braver than you ever could be and we both know that :)
@JPnielsen Do better. Ridiculous statement.
@@smileyparto It was a question. Not a statement. Which you obviously aren't capable of answering.
join the cue
Whilst I understand the concept of a maximum sentence for a particular offence being 20 years. What I cannot understand is how France cannot apply the concept of consecutive sentences. In this country (UK) even if you are dealing with an offence that has a low maximum sentence, there is nothing to prevent consecutive sentences with multiple offences having occurred over time. So I don’t understand why his sentence is limited to 20 years. It must mean that France doesn’t implement the very basic concept of consecutive sentences.
Quite absurd if that is true.
my prayers are with you 🙏🏻 and your daughter merci Gisele and i hope that everyone who did you wrong get everything what's coming to them Amen
But lets give a shout out to the man who respected women enough to make a fuss. The astute security guard. Without him and his quick actions, none of this beastly crime would be known🙌🏿
Such a likable women for her bravery deserves and the praises she gets
And we still have grooming gangs who go unpunished
who use the same tactics...
Ah yes, the mythical and omnipresent "grooming gang" roaming your entire country eh?
And a media that was considerably quieter and less outraged about it!
Shush
This has had 10x more coverage
Vingt ans dans la prison ne suffit pas pour la punition. Dans l'Etats Unis, la conspiration aurait ete l'accusation contre tous les cinquante et un hommes pour la vie dans la prison.
In the US they’d have ended up in politics.
@@RUclipsmessedupmyhandleyou’re so correct! One is in fact being inaugurated in January as president, the 34 felons and sx abuse leader of the “free world” not. I guess if you’re wealthy in the USA they let you delay the process so much you can then run for president and get away with serving any kind of time in prison. He did say in one of his notorious videos “Access Hollywood” words to the effect that when you’re a star you can get away with anything, he was proven correct.
How tf could somebody do that to they’re wife doing what he did to anyone is sick but your wife surly he’s done that to more than just one woman
i literally laughed my head off!
remember they were married so you would expect a bit of fun
@@thethinkingman- educate yourself.
grrrr not good...
She is a giant among few! A survivor!
She has very poor taste in men. Why is she being celebrated?
@The-Wa.Wa-Girls a survivor is someone who survives something life threatening
Wow! Her husband is a real PoS. I find myself in surprise that France, enlightened in so many ways, needing so much progress to catch up with its peers. Best time to start is now.
I doubt there’ll be change within the law but hopefully within women’s minds.
The change needs to be in mens minds and behaviours.
La France devrait remplacer Marianne avec Gisele Pelicot.
Qui est Marianne?
@@ld3418 serieux ????!!???
The burden of proof must still be on the accuser, and we should resist any changes to this principle. But if the proof is met then the accused should face lengthy sentencing.
The burden of proof doesn’t rest on the accuser.
@@RUclipsmessedupmyhandle
So you can just accuse without it!?
@@RUclipsmessedupmyhandle
Innocent Until “proven guilty” !!
@@RUclipsmessedupmyhandle that's exactly how it works
TG she didnt have a daughter.
Brave lady, legend.
Im not sure , but a woman in the UK has been jailed for 1 year for attempted murder, but this perpetrator has got 20 years for rape.
@@Facts_Are_Facts_Are_Facts cuz women
A terrible case and at least the perpetrators have faced justice, and hopefully the French will examine how they treat women in future...
Strange how a few women being graped by people known to them has made news around the world, yet THOUSANDS of young GIRLS being graped over decades, covered up by the police, (who may also have been perpetrators) and even MPs being sacked, hasn't led to ANY meaningful changes in the UK, or help for the victims...
What's even more worrying is that terrible crimes such as these carried out by gangs don't receive the right level of attention in the media, or by the police .This means many more women and young girls will be affected and the perpetrators walk free.We must do all we can to keep women and especially young vulnerable girls safe from these crimes.All to often over decades these things seem to be covered up.
You can also add members of the clergy and religious cults to that.
The censorship in these comments is astonishing, but sadly unsurprising.
Nothing will change 😢
Marmite is overrated.
How can people eat it on toast?
I see you’re not in the ‘love it’ camp then 😂
It would be easy to find out if the daughter was drugged as she has long hair . So a hair test will show it ??
Pelicot is vile
I am not responsible for another man's behaviour. What's worse is that women choose bad men as their sexual partners but then blame all other men for their bad choices.
Bad men are experts at pretending to be good men.
Of course! Bad men present themselves as good men! They would, wouldn't they?
I am worried there will be an over reaction that will have the opposite effect they are hoping for. Punishment for all men for the actions of a few will just make things worse, education and development of empathy is the only way to change societal norms.
@@BillyBobJoeSnrand the law being used effectively with a lot more perpetrators brought to 'justice'.
Your moral compass is Jesus, but have you accepted him, or do you deny him. If the latter, you are lost.
What about the hypocrites who hide behind religion to abuse children and women? I’m sure they all started off saying they were followers of Jesus. Overly religious people are the worse when it comes to abuse because they are trusted. I never trust people preaching about religion no matter the religion. There are good people all over the world who are not religious and many don’t believe in any religion. It’s all about morals yes, but it’s all about knowing what is wrong.
What lasting change is wanted, exactly?
Perhaps leave off the intense sexual abuse, just a thought.
@@pippipster6767 we already condemn it so I also don't get what change. It wasn't acceptable before or after
All French people ... Please send an email like this to your parish priests: Voudriez-vous faire en sorte que tous vos paroissiens sachent qu’il n’est pas acceptable que des hommes droguent des femmes, les violent ou les filment ? Veuillez vous assurer que cette valeur est enseignée à tous dès le plus jeune âge. Merci bien. English: Would you ensure that all your parishioners learn that it is not acceptable for men to drug women and rape them or film them? Please ensure that this value is taught to all at a young age.
Trying to get the church to do this with their record would seem a little pointless.
@@janwilson9485 Citizens demanding change from institutions is a frequent catalyst for social change throughout history.
Can't understand how it takes 10 years for her to realise what was happening. Even drugged she must have some recollection over that time.
Totally 💯
It took her four years in therapy before she was persuaded by her family to go ahead and prosecute her husband and his vile actions. You should find out the facts before commenting on a serious case like this.
@@BrendaHeeligan I already said that I didn't understand how it took so long. Now I know,thank you ,and I don't need you to tell me how and what I should comment on at any time.
The way the press have latched onto this as if it happens all the time 🙄
So weird.
Usual suspects
Oh shut up no one cares leave him alone
Who is ‘him’?
Dominique? - sure, leave him alone! Do not give him food or water. ⬛️
Fake claim from this woman schii is bullschiit liaer
Delusional. ^^^
Incel
Metoo has claimed another victim......
@@sambishop9567 Here we go again. 2nd wave incoming.