Kudos to you guys. I think you are on to something as innovators in the watercooling space. I wish you the grit to push this to higher heights. Really happy to see those Black Ice Nemesis Radiators performing so well.
Ill admit i was skeptical putting those specs on rad like that but thats impressive af. The gpu is not far off from my 4090 with an external rad. I guess the heat dissipation from such a large chunk of copper really does a big difference, nice work!
This is very impressive. Reminds me of the old days of watercooling with the extensive amount of modding that has gone on. A truly bespoke system with performance to back up the looks. Well done.
To give an idea of how well this is performing - I have a 4090, 14900K both watercooled with 3x360 45mm thick alphacool rads and alphacool blocks and my temps are pretty much the same as this.
It means you did something wrong. This particular build is not bad, but it could have been done a little better. The temperatures would be lower or the noise would be quieter.
@@Ftroll I disagree. I said "pretty much" - currently, on desktop use with 2 browsers open, several documents and various social media apps running, CPU temp is 32 and GPU is 25C Fans you cannot hear. You tell Me what is wrong with those temps?
@@LDWilliams I mean periods under load, it would be possible to achieve slightly lower temperatures. It’s just that for such a small building with such expensive equipment, you have to bother so much with the sewer system and it still goes into throttling - what’s the point? Either the equipment was less hot, or the cooling needed to be better thought out, but there is room for improvement.
I've worked with Raptor Lake quite a bit (hello from Intel R&D as well btw). If you want to tune Raptor Lake for better cooling here, reducing the power consumption with both a power cap and undervolt will be the best option you have. By default with a stock power limit, an undervolt will also behave like an overclock. The CPU will still try to draw 253W, and may compensate by drawing more current (ohm's law) and clocking higher if the board allows it to. It can draw a max of 307A, so there is plenty of headroom for it to do this. You are effectively shifting the v/f curve to the left with an undervolt, so you just push new higher clock bins into place at the power limit. I have found the sweet spot for my group of 6 Raptor Lake i9s (4x 13900K + 2x 14900K) to be 220W with a -60mv to -100mv offset depending on the platform defaults and chip stability. You can also knock 100mhz off the all-P-core speed and add it to the E-cores instead. This will reduce the temps on the hottest cores while under an all-core load, and more than makes up for the performance loss by boosting the other set of 16 threads.
We don't know if this person wanted a specific Intel feature, and we also don't know what power tune they'll be running. My own 14900K runs at the same 220W limit as a 7950X and matches stock performance, which is to say it performs similarly to the 7950X3D as well. Of course you can tune Ryzen chips as well, but the 14900K is not uncoolable if you don't let it have unlimited power.
I would say cutting a hole in the top of the case might help. excellent job none the less. As an experiment did you run the pc without the case on? And saying that without the case the pc still looks good. Also send a link of video to LTT.
That power on button sound is so tasty omg
🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
It IS a toaster
Kudos to you guys. I think you are on to something as innovators in the watercooling space. I wish you the grit to push this to higher heights.
Really happy to see those Black Ice Nemesis Radiators performing so well.
Ill admit i was skeptical putting those specs on rad like that but thats impressive af. The gpu is not far off from my 4090 with an external rad. I guess the heat dissipation from such a large chunk of copper really does a big difference, nice work!
This is very impressive. Reminds me of the old days of watercooling with the extensive amount of modding that has gone on. A truly bespoke system with performance to back up the looks. Well done.
To give an idea of how well this is performing -
I have a 4090, 14900K both watercooled with 3x360 45mm thick alphacool rads and alphacool blocks
and my temps are pretty much the same as this.
It means you did something wrong. This particular build is not bad, but it could have been done a little better. The temperatures would be lower or the noise would be quieter.
@@Ftroll I disagree. I said "pretty much" - currently, on desktop use with 2 browsers open, several documents and various social media apps running, CPU temp is 32 and GPU is 25C
Fans you cannot hear.
You tell Me what is wrong with those temps?
@@LDWilliams I mean periods under load, it would be possible to achieve slightly lower temperatures. It’s just that for such a small building with such expensive equipment, you have to bother so much with the sewer system and it still goes into throttling - what’s the point? Either the equipment was less hot, or the cooling needed to be better thought out, but there is room for improvement.
@@Ftroll you don't call 3x360 45mm thick alphacool rads and alphacool blocks better thought out?
Love this build. Happy to see it performs great, too.
This is so cool and wish I could afford one myself. I've watched the whole process. So frickin cool man.
I've worked with Raptor Lake quite a bit (hello from Intel R&D as well btw). If you want to tune Raptor Lake for better cooling here, reducing the power consumption with both a power cap and undervolt will be the best option you have.
By default with a stock power limit, an undervolt will also behave like an overclock. The CPU will still try to draw 253W, and may compensate by drawing more current (ohm's law) and clocking higher if the board allows it to. It can draw a max of 307A, so there is plenty of headroom for it to do this. You are effectively shifting the v/f curve to the left with an undervolt, so you just push new higher clock bins into place at the power limit. I have found the sweet spot for my group of 6 Raptor Lake i9s (4x 13900K + 2x 14900K) to be 220W with a -60mv to -100mv offset depending on the platform defaults and chip stability. You can also knock 100mhz off the all-P-core speed and add it to the E-cores instead. This will reduce the temps on the hottest cores while under an all-core load, and more than makes up for the performance loss by boosting the other set of 16 threads.
Great build and thinking through problems, awesome job guys 👍
I think you guys have a great channel! Looking forward to future projects!
I'd love to see the temps and power after undervolting. Great result, though - incredible.
STUNNING WORK!
Awesome build. Love to see it fully together and working great. Really good job with the cooling
Right on time for the fall and winter 😅
great work on the cooling system . great system could handle almost all workstation workload
I love this project. Great job.
Fantastic series!
lovely work! another thing, could I get the model of your monitors, they look really nice
This is the future of small form factor!
Nice one lads
Those temps are very impressive.
You can use delta cooler 1212de to take lower temp, but it's 3.5A and need other power supply not from motherboard
it looks the part, but does it actually TOAST?
I really wish to see medium performance passive cooling pc with case big, big , radiator and case to be main radiator as well.
They could've gone with 7950x3d for lower temperatures
That would defeat the point of the mod
We don't know if this person wanted a specific Intel feature, and we also don't know what power tune they'll be running. My own 14900K runs at the same 220W limit as a 7950X and matches stock performance, which is to say it performs similarly to the 7950X3D as well. Of course you can tune Ryzen chips as well, but the 14900K is not uncoolable if you don't let it have unlimited power.
This is fantastic! ^^
goddamn. im drawing half the power in quadruple the space at a much higher temp, you guys clearly designed this good.
So i believe thermal testing will take aprox. half a year
Impressive
I know it's a long stretch and I'm probably wrong, but I'd love if the "client" turned out to be LTT after all the monoblock saga.
You are definitely wrong.
@@EcoAcid I know, I just said I’d love to be them behind this build commission.
That POS doesn't deserve another chance.
I would say cutting a hole in the top of the case might help. excellent job none the less. As an experiment did you run the pc without the case on? And saying that without the case the pc still looks good. Also send a link of video to LTT.
careful, they might sell the link at an auction
Noice!