Japanese Heavy Cruiser Nachi
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2022
- In early 1942, the Japanese invasion forces were on their way to the Dutch East Indies. Fully aware that they had the upper hand against the Allies, they rushed to claim every inch of the Pacific as soon as possible.
The Japanese were on a winning streak and not about to let that go, looking to continue their imperialist invasion at all costs. Thus, the invaders put together a massive attack before the American, British, Dutch, and Australian forces could even coordinate a response.
Past noon on February 27, the 1920s heavy cruiser Nachi sent her reconnaissance floatplanes to search for the enemy, and they soon spotted the Allied Combined Fleet. Subsequently, Rear Admiral Takeo Takagi ordered his invading troops out of the area, as it was about to become a battlefield.
The Battle of the Java Sea had just begun, and Nachi would soon prove her worth against an unrelenting adversary…
I had read that torpedo bombers from USS Lexington CV-16 sank the cruiser Nachi. The Lady Lex was the oldest carrier in service until 1991. More traps than any carrier in history. I was onboard from 89-91. Blue Ghost is a museum now in Corpus Christy. Visit her if you can, it's really quite freaking cool.
Near the end you talked about the salvage of code books after she sunk. That would be interesting to hear more about.
Me too!
It was in '45, the war was virtually over by then.
Major intelligence coup justs sounds more interesting than an utter waste of time.
@Johnny Reb the Japanese language's only similarities to Navajo language is in tonal variation. That's it. I think you are confusing Navajo Code Talkers with crypto analysts. They are completely unrelated and had nothing to do with each other. Code talkers provided unbreakable communications for US forces in the Pacific, specifically the US Marine Corps. It was not deciphered by the Japanese.
Japanese code, in contrast, was broken BEFORE the war broke out.
@Johnny Reb The code was already broken because the US and Brits had a functional Enigma machine that the Germans and Japanese both used.
@Johnny Reb The Polish resistance got the first Enigma machine to the Brits, and the US captured a German U-Boat with a intact Enigma machine. Thanks for playing I'm a Moron. You are the winner.
Excellent show. It is interesting to learn about sea battles that did not center on the aircraft carrier. Thanks
We lost 3 night battles to the Japanese, 2 of them after Midway. This one, The Battle of Savo Island and The Battle of Tassafaronga-Night of the Long Lances. Back then night battles meant gunboat battles. . . . gunboats with torpedoes.
It's refreshing to hear a truly neutral script in a history video. I have subscribed just for that 👌🏻
Oh give him time....
The Imperial Japanese Navy carriers sent an air-raid against the Dutch forces in Java. The pilots met no resistance. Bored, they bombed and strafed a large oil refinery and huge fuel tanks. The Japanese pilots destroyed the very thing that was the goal of the invasion, oil tanks and the refinery.
@freebeerfordworkers source of them being buried alive?
@freebeerfordworkers, not sure if this is true or not but the Japanese DESERVED the two atom bombs that they got. Too bad the Allies didn't have enough to carpet bomb that country right off the face of the earth! They were far more savage and barbaric than the Nazis were.
@@richardcline1337 I take it you're not Jewish, Slavic, Russian, Polish, or a gypsy then?
The Japanese Navy had excellent cruisers, both light and heavy. Far superior to the allies. Admiral Yamamoto knew that they only had 6 months to a year maybe of success and victories before they felt the full weight of American mass production. Thanks for the video my friend, good stuff. 👍 👍
Superior in what way? Characteristically, the Ally’s ships were far superior to the Japanese in terms of logistics, fire control, damage control, and tactics. Once the confusion after Pearl Harbor and the US organized themselves the Japanese fleet poised little to no threat unless by surprise which only served them a few times. My favorite example of US superior is the Battle of Samar when Taffy 3 broke Japans glass jaw.
@@xivoryreaperx1182 Not at the beginning of the war. The advancements you're talking about came later. It's not a difficult subject to research. Long-lance torpedoes, superior optics, tactics, command and control by the IJN was second to none, at east in the beginning until we were able to catch up.
@@xivoryreaperx1182 But until we were able to catch up we took it on the chin many times. Ask ANY Veterans who served during that period and they'll tell you the same.
@@chrisnizer5702 I know, but using a small timeframe versus the overall theater is silly, as for research, spent most of my adult life doing that. The Japanese only had the advantage when using surprise tactics, or wonder weapons such as their torpedos in Pearl, or their Lance torpedos which more often then not were set off on their own ships.
@@xivoryreaperx1182 SMALL time frame??? 1940, '41, '42, and '43 isn't a small time frame. I spent 8 years in the USMC Infantry (a Department of the U.S. Navy) my friend. History is a large part of that experience. Veterans make up the majority of my friends and our family had several Navy Veterans, including my grandfather who served in the Navy during the 2nd World War. You're entitled to whatever opinion you choose. It's not necessary for us to agree with each other.
Simply excellent. Thank you for the new series…
I love all your channels! Thanks for doing all these great videos!
Something that's less well know - but deserves to be more publicized - is that persons unknown (possibly Chinese scrap metal traders) have entirely salvaged the wrecks of De Ruyter, Exeter and other Allied ships sunk in the battle, using cargo barges anc grapples to bring up the ships - which are war graves - almost entirely. Word has it that the bones found in the wreckage were dumped in a landfill while the metal has been sold. Only belatedly have the local authorities clamped down on this criminal activity.
Going after the pre atomlc steel. The Indonesian government allowed it to happen. Rumor says officals were bribed.
Not certain from which company the country was based in, but those salvage ships deserve to be sunk if they were caught doing such disposable things. Hope that Houston and Perth are still together.
@@texan-american200 salvage in open ocean is not illegal afaik . Maybe you should focus your anger on the original ships' govts for not getting to them sooner.
@@beargillium2369.
By international treaty it is now highly illegal to salvage war grave ships of all sides in WW II.
Or Truk lagoon would be stripped bare among other large ship grave yards.
The US Coast Guard now is part of a multi-national watch fleet engaged in stopping salvage pirate fleets.
I'm a Coast Guard Veteran and have friends still active assigned to a couple of the Cutters involved.
A couple of the Coast Guards 375 foot Hamilton class cutters were sold to the Philippin Navy and are part of that fleet.
Japan has several ships assigned as well.
It has become a priority amoung former adviseries to stop them.
China?.....no.....you surprise me 😡
You bring up some interesting points that I haven't heard or read elsewherre. Great video!
Yeah Dark Seas, along with Dark Doc's, & THG. Episodes. You Folks do really great Stuff . So Thank You Very much.
Excellent and rare story about a little-known large Japanese ship. The Japanese Navy gave a great account of themselves multiple times in 1942, both here, in night battles off of Guadalcanal, and elsewhere.
Japanese heavy cruisers were hell on wheels. They decided the Washington Agreement's 10Kton limit on cruisers was just a suggestion. Admiral Hiraga's designs for heavy cruisers were innovative and seriously dangerous combatants. Add the Type 93 torpedoes and launchers on both flanks, and they were a nightmare. The US Baltimore and Cleveland class cruisers outgunned and surpassed them, but those ships only began to arrive in late 42.
I had no idea.... makes me want to play them in some great naval warfare game.... lol haven’t found one worth a damn yet.
Agreed. The only issue is that the torpedoes had a nasty habit of exploding on onboard and causing severe damage to their own ships. Once American ships all had radar, and learned how to use it, the advantage of their torpedoes, at least on surface ships, was largely negated.
@@miamijules2149 Try World of Warships.
Cleveland class did not outgun the Japanese 8"armed cruisers. They may have had a higher rate of fire, but the 8" shell of the Japanese definitely had more punch.
@@mryhdy6266 Punch only works if you actually hit the target. The Japanese themselves rated their hit rate with 8 inch guns as extremely low.
Most people seem to forget also of the Valiant Destroyer that had an all polish crew that went up against Bismarck. That is truly a naval history battle that is worth remembering. Great work as always.
no they dont. it's one of the most famous stunts a destroyer ever attempted in history.
@@comethiburs2326 @Christopher Babilon,
Well, that explains the screen doors below the waterline.
The Piorun aint it?
such a great video thanks for the hard work
"She collided with the Mogami..." Y'know the Mogami's ability to critically injure her own fleetmates would be almost unparalleled until the HMAS Melbourne arrived on the scene.
ah yes torpedoing several of your own ships the soundest battle plan.
@@Tdelliex the enemy cant sink our ships if our ships dont exist to sink
And for that, Mogami is the best spy ship in Japanese navy
@@gibusspy5544 exactly
and the Melbourne was doing peacetime exercises
Excellent video, thanks !
Another great video 👍
Very cool and informative. Thanks
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I love your content. Good job.
Another OUTSTANDING video
I keep hearing "gnocchi" and think of maybe an Alfredo sauce and some garlic bread.
Great presentation!
Very interesting, as always , great information.
Interesting video. Thanks for posting.
Great work .
I did not realize just how powerful a naval force Japan had going into and during the earlier years of WW II. It appears that the development of superior naval air power tipped the tides in favor of the Americans. Thanks.
Well us industrial output and superior intelegence did. Technology and strategy wise both were somewhat close for most of the war. Though Japan lacked the industry to build what they developed in any number (like the amazing akizuki class DD or the ki-84 fighter)
Japan was spread too thin and was cut off from resources. They were fearful of a protracted war because they knew their resources were finite.
@@sd_league It was that industrial capability that Yamamoto Isoruku saw while serving as the Japanese Embassy Naval Attache during the interwar years of the Great Depression. Yamamoto-san recognized what capability meant if Japan were to go to war against the U.S. He had recommended strongly NOT to go to war with the U.S. but was ignored by the Army General Staff.
The core of the fleet of new ships that would eventually anchor as Victors in Tokyo Bay was already under construction, fitting out and even training at sea when Japan attacked the U.S. on 7 December 1941.
At Pearl harbor, when Japanese bombs and torpedoes took out the antiquated capital ships of battleship row, they did the US Navy a huge favor. With its "battleship admirals" now taking a back seat, US strategy used carrier-based aircraft increasingly to dominate engagements with the Japanese fleet, and support US island hopping toward Japan.
Japan lost the war when they attacked Pearl Harbor. They made a bet the US wouldn't deny them the West Pacific and they lost that bet in spades.
Nachi was hit by a single bomb to her aircraft deck, and this, as well as strafing attacks, killed 53 crewmen and further delayed repairs. On 5 November, again in Manila Bay, Nachi was attacked by three waves of U.S. planes from the aircraft carriers USS Lexington and Ticonderoga.
Fantastic video
Spectacular history lesson brother thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise and hello from Detroit Michigan USA 94/275 Great video Brother
That was terrific!
Gotta love the lines of those ships.
Fascinating!
I like your work.
Taking all that punishment and hits before sinking, it must have been a very well built ship.
Amazing ships!
On Java was an artillery battalion of the Texas Division that originally was to sent reinforce the Philippines. One sergeant in an .50 cal. Anti aircraft battery later surrendered when ordered to. He was half Japanese, Frank Fujita. The Japanese tried to use him for propaganda purposes after discovering his heritage. In actually he helped the American identify who were POW’s, and made the scripts that he had to read over the radio broadcast very soft stuff.
After the war he helped design the great seal of the USAF.
very interesting thankyou
Do you use a voice changer bc I really like your voice and keep up the good work
Well written .... again.
Good and informative but why is the Szent Istvan June 1918 capsize video shown
why do ww2 era cruisers always look so good
Well I hope you tell us what they found in those code books!
Side note if you enjoy WoWs you can play the t-7 IJN Myoko.
Nachi, her sister ship, Nacho, and the lesser known Salsa made a balanced appetizer.
The way of the warrior
I cant imagine even being on a battleship having another battleship, or destroyer firing at me. Then, add the kamikaze planes coming in.
Rest in peace to all of those who lost their lives.
my grandfather was an aa gunner on the arkansas and he said they fired so many rounds ,he said it looked like you could walk up to them on the aa gun blasts and the kamikaze would still get through
My great great grandpa was a main battery power bag worker on Bismarck and yes I’m german
@@parkerterry03 those german ships were very well put together .
They really were especially scharnhorst and her sister and tirpitz and print eugen and admiral graf spee
I can go on an on all day about all those ships dude I’m telling you
At 1.59 the Island of Moorea, quite far from the Java sea!
3:30 The picture is wrong, here we see 2 twin 8" aft but 4 twin 8" front. It seems they clued the tone-class bow section (4x2 8") with the aft of the nachi-class. Quite bad
Draft is depth, not length
"Only the Poe escaped,
and was sunk a few hours later." (by the same ships). Same battle, larger battle area, and just as sunk. That's not really an "Escape".
Because words matter!
Never expect accuracy on this channel....
So many Japanese cruisers went to the bottom of the sea during World War II courtesy of the US Navy.
They all were built by US materials.
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A draft is 'deep' not "long"
The Japanese Navy in the early 20th century was no joke.
Could you do a report on the USS Biscayne AGC 18. It was a Sea Plane Tender turned into a flag ship because of her shallow draft for amphibious landings. As a result, she was in the thick of the fighting. She fought in 5 D-Days against the Japanese and Germens and had a who's who of Generals and Admirals on her. Quit a story and is worthy of your good video's. A book was written called "Letters Home"
Can you do the history of the destroyer adrias? The Royal hellenic navy ship that travel from Greece to Alexandria without a bow during ww2. Or the history of the armored cruiser George Averoff the ship that destroy the Othoman fleet twice alone, survive the both balkans and World wars and a civil war?
I hope Royal Hellenic Navy Warships ww2 should get Video
Show info russian cruiser George Averoff
Very interesting
The Japanese torpedo, 93 Ithink? Is the of torpedo outside the museum at lake union in Seattle?
US Navy Admirals didn't get where they were because of brains.
Ok honest question who would win? The French char 2c superheavy tank Or the German K wagen superheavy tank. (context) it’s a head on fight during a offensive/counter offensive.
My bet is on the German K-wagen because of its similar design to the British mark one,s gun arrangement And locations I would say it was inspired by the British mark one tank design.
When you review a History like this one. You will understand completely and fully why the US Military is almost constantly involved in JOINT TRAINING with it's Allies. 🇺🇸⚓🐵
This is a excellent point!
Wow, those were some heavy cruisers back in the day. Almost like Germanys "pocket battleships", in terms of their overall displacement. Also did I hear a top speed of 35.5 knots?!!
Yeah you heard right, it was a shock to me as well, I had thought the best that could be achieved was 30 knots. 😮
@@tommargarites2811 Truly fascinating when we stop and realize those speeds were achieved some 75+ years ago, and are still considered quite good even today. I served in the Navy from 2006-2014, the first assigned duty was aboard USS JOHN C. STENNIS (CVN-74). During Shakedown cruise after our deployment and drydock pier side increment availability (DPIA), we achieved a bit over 30 knots if I remember. That's haulin ass for a 100,000 ton Nimitz Class carrier! The shop I was assigned to was just aft of midship 4th deck down, and I swear it felt and sounded like we were in an earthquake!!!! How these boats manage to stay together under that kind of structural stress is a true testament to the engineering of these huge haze grey floaty things! 😀
@@jeffreymontgomery4091 Lol, thanks for commenting, it really is a wonder of engineering architecture, to construct such a fast beast of that enormous weight.
Gotta do a video on the Kongo class
Was that the same Exeter at the battle with the Graff Spee?
Yes
I love Dark Seas 🌊
She was a tough old girl... cruisers were the backbone of Japanese naval efforts in WWII
Play “world of warships” PC game to get behind the helm of all the nations ships. A great game set in the ww1 & 2 era technology only.
If only that British destroyer at 2.46 had been there.
Why do one of the front main guns face backwards?
forget it.
Early Japanese Naval Artillery was highly effective because they used Colored Dye in their ammunition. This allowed for immediate correction of fire during the chaos of battle, division of firepower, and higher accuracy.
The U.S. did that too. I'm assuming other countries probably did as well.
@@shawnc1016 the US was late to the show on it. It was not till later naval engagements that it was fully utilized by the Allied forces.
@@chuck.reichert83 I know they had it by Guadalcanal. San Francisco's color was all over Atlanta.
Why are you showing completly random footage of Admiral Halsey, the sinking of Szent István during WWI, a Cleveland class cruiser, the HMS Hood and Fletcher class DDs in your video when this has not to do even the slightest with the Battle of the Java sea?
Combined fleet is the descriptor for the Japanese fleet not the Allied Fleet, Dah.
I read a great book on the motivation and mindset for the Japanese war movment, "Hakko Ichiu"
They though it was their divine right to control the world.
Excellent: but at 2:05 a visual of the sinking SMS Blucher (sunk in 1915)? Ooooops
Austro-Hungarian SMS Szent Istvan! Oooooops
you mean torpedoes in surface ships was their idea?
Yokosuka...
Say it with me.
Yo-kus-ka
Yo-kus-ka
Better now?
2:05 The sinking of SMS Szent István is often used in youtube videos. 😉
What's the point of following a treaty (that will limit your army) if you are in war with the country that made the treaty
Whether or not the USS Houston hit any of her targets depends on who you ask. The Japanese authorities claim only one minor hit on a destroyer. The spotters on the Houston claim a number of hits on both heavy cruisers. When you lose a battle, your claims are discounted while the winners have the floor. During the battle of Sunda Strait the next night, the Japanese claim the Houston and Perth sunk four transports. The likelyhood that actually happened was practically nil since the Houston and Perth did not have any chance of closing on the unloading transports. They were fighting for their lives and did not concentrate fire on any one ship for very long. The Japanese, however, were firing and launching torpedoes willy nilly and those torpedoes were the likely reason the four Japanese transports were sunk. For the Japanese to admit to an own goal is a disgrace and loss of face and there would be no way in hell they would admit to own goals and gladly gave credit to the USS Houston and HMAS Perth. Since there were very few surviving senior officers from either allied ship, there was nearly no way to contradict Japanese claims of either battle.
Very astute points Robert.
What was the military coup left us hanging there
5 bomb hits and 5 torpedoes. Do note that 2 bomb hits _OR_ 1 or 2 torpedoes was typically enough to sink a heavy cruiser. They pumped more than enough torpedoes into this cruiser than would be required to sink even the strongest battleship, in one of the greatest displays of overkill of the entire war.
I think sending in more than 200+ planes to sink Yamato was overkill.
@@MrEd-qg8td That was repayment
The US Navy at that time so heavily outnumbered the Japanese that hundreds of planes would be sent up only to find 2 or 3 worthy targets, so the entire alpha strike would drop its ordinance onto a handful of unlucky cruisers and destroyers. If you have that kind of superiority over the enemy, one may as well use it. No one ever said that a fight always had to be equal in times of war. What crippled the Japanese from the very beginning is that they started a war with the Western world believing the old medieval philosophy of bushido would bring them to victory. Only a handful of their leadership understood that bushido wasn't going to cut it in an industrialized war. I believe it was actually Hitler who made the surprisingly insightful comment that "this war [WWII] would be won not on the battlefield but inside the factories." Too many Japanese military leaders believed that the individual soldier would always be the most powerful weapon a nation would have - and therefore did not put a lot of investment into technology and industry. Also, their obsession with death didn't help, either. American troops fought hard to survive because they felt they had a life they wanted to return to. Japanese troops practically considered themselves dead before they even got to the battlefield. When you feel your life is already over and there's nothing to fight for except those abstract notions of patriotism, well ... it's not that the Japanese soldier fought with less skill or bravery. But they threw lives away too easily even allowing thousands of soldiers to die of starvation, left stranded on little Pacific islands that were no longer needed.
Japanese pilots were so accurate early in the war that many of their attacks were overkill. Look up the stats on the older British carrier and two heavy cruisers sunk in the Indian Ocean. It's almost like they were dropping smart bombs, and that's according to British sources.
@@hannable70 You said it already, Japan was defeated because of the American factories and not because of 1 on 1 skill in the battlefield.
Enjoyed the video, except for the clip of the sinking Austrian battleship from WWI.
HEY! What the heck happened NEXT?? It's just getting interesting! An 'Intelligence Coup?? What was all of THAT??
funny how this battle is overlooked in the 'objective' main media
Were the torpedoes that sank the Nachi from ships or airplanes?
Aircraft.
If you’re caught salvaging a war grave the punishment should be summary executions on the spot of all involved.
One might say the Allies were dealt a great benefit when the Japanese made them lose their incompetent commander!
What did happen to the ghost of Sunda strait?
Never Forget Battan....mo fos
102 mm and 30 mm ? Not enough.
Ha ha what were the Dutch thinking, fighting in a war like this. Now see what happened!
I was so surprised by the chapter title at 1:09 that I almost started coding
Talk about overkill
The big mistake of Yamamoto was not to install radar on the ships
They did try, they weren't able to keep up with Western technology after they decided to sever diplomatic ties with them
Hiryu and Hyuga had an experimental set at Midway. Shokaku had one in the Solomons.
They in fact invented a listening device picking up the pings the radar sends out so some ships had some idea that US ships were around, just not the amount or types
Another crazy fact is the US deployed "window" (aluminium strip's in the sky to confuse radar operators of the types and quanity of planes) first in WW2 at Rabaul, but the Japanese radar at Rabaul was so rudimentary, they weren't deceived, and put their usual CAP vs 13th AF
@@Wayne.J thank you Yamamoto warned they will not be able to maintain a long conflict but pride and arrogance blinded the army
@@alwaleedalthani9624
Definitely
They wanted a war now despite the slim to none odds of winning it. Crazy times, national suicide
@@Wayne.J Yamato and Musashi also had fire control radar installed.
The Exeter, was pretty much a Heavy Cruiser in name only. Even if she did have 8 inch guns. I've read that the British navy needed Heavy Cruisers and had some hulls already built for light cruisers, so they re-purposed them as Heavy Cruisers. It didnt work out too well. Decent guns, but armor was not nearly enough.
35 knots dam thats fast
#aHatTip production. T'anks 🙋🏼♀
I read the book sink the huguro