The BIGGEST CHEATER in FISHING HISTORY!

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2022
  • Jake Runyan and Chase Cominsky Have made National and International News for their Walleye Tournament Cheating Scandal, but they AREN'T the Biggest Cheater in Fishing History! That Title Belongs to none other than Mike Long.
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  • @5050fishing
    @5050fishing  Год назад +42

    Before the Walleye Cheaters there was Mike Long….

    • @jeffmorand4796
      @jeffmorand4796 Год назад +2

      How do u hide a record bass from a co-angler??? really

    • @cjsoutdoors4412
      @cjsoutdoors4412 Год назад +4

      @@jeffmorand4796 ...One co angler on Mike's boat did talk about it later after the fact, said it was strange, one minute he had nothing, a sec later he pulls out a fish.

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад +4

      @@jeffmorand4796 he done it. He was hiding tournament fish in secret compartments on his boat and pulling them out when the co angler wasn’t looking. Everyone knew something was up but it took forever to actually catch him.

    • @kls2020
      @kls2020 Год назад

      @@jeffmorand4796 Usually it seems these cheaters will give the Co angler a job to do to keep them preoccupied so they can't see what's going on during these fake catches . I story I was told by a highly reliable source about a busted cheater in a Cal Delta shared weight Pro Am event went like this . Cheating Pro pulls up a bridge abuttment in shallow water and tells the co angler there is a lot of nasty stuff under water like rebar sticking up and askes the co angler to hold the boat in position beside the bridge to prevent boat damage so he can concentrate on catching the fish under the bridge . The co angler said Pro caught multiple pale ,long thin bass from this one little spot while he held the boat in place . Same guy was busted at a later Delta tournament using an elaborate sunken plastic barrel with bass inside it and was banned .

    • @emilianobanzi9432
      @emilianobanzi9432 Год назад +1

      I'll say that I point my finger to all the Mike "Guru" friends that allowed this guy to do that for years! No coanglers saw all the s##t he was doing??? C'mon !
      And all the lake records he's still holding it's a shame

  • @steveheck7754
    @steveheck7754 Год назад +220

    Raised a bass in a 200 gal. aquarium years ago. She was like a pet dog, she'd get excited when I'd walk in the room, or spun a spinnerbait blade. When the barometer was high , would sit on the bottom as if sleeping. when the air pressure dropped, Everything that could fit in her mouth wanted out. She'd down a dozen goldfish, hand size bluegill, and her favorite meal waterdogs. She'd do 6 at a time $$. Loved that fish till she got too big , 7 pounds. Let her go at a catch & release only lake.

    • @Splitshot1
      @Splitshot1 Год назад +16

      That is the coolest thing I've ever heard.

    • @513EM1
      @513EM1 Год назад +9

      This made me cry

    • @rosso391
      @rosso391 Год назад +7

      That's exactly what I want to do. Raise a bass for fun and release to a catch and release only body of water.

    • @P1Gman
      @P1Gman Год назад +5

      I like this a lot. You should try a flower horn. They're beautiful freshwater fish.

    • @althor9997
      @althor9997 Год назад +9

      Want to do a movie?
      It's 2022, I guarentee you can get a grammy

  • @stevesmith8399
    @stevesmith8399 Год назад +41

    Randy Blaukat just did a video on Intuitive Angling telling a story about Tony Christian. For years, Tony transported big bass into tournament lakes and staged them in Tupperware bins with a hole in it. He’d ride right out to his hidden bass, drop a jig into the hole in the bin and bag his big boys. He apparently got away with it because the rules didn’t specify transporting fish. He stood by the fact that other anglers were allowed to dump cover and he caught every fish in the mouth.

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад +8

      So many cheaters out there….

    • @sammylacks4937
      @sammylacks4937 Год назад +3

      I'd like to know how he caught the fish originally before planting them in tubs.

    • @mrdrunk9733
      @mrdrunk9733 Год назад +2

      @@sammylacks4937 apparently had a couple farm ponds around

    • @bradcampbell475
      @bradcampbell475 Год назад +2

      saw that video. the fact that he was doing it on the pro tour was insane.

    • @TN-Vols-Fan
      @TN-Vols-Fan Год назад +5

      Christian is barred from FLW (RIP) and B.A.S.S., I believe, competition for life.

  • @tommascari8298
    @tommascari8298 Год назад +20

    My close friend was at Lake Sutherland, the day Mike Long showed up with a bass that was clearly from lake Poway and claimed the lake record. My friend and the locals knew immediately that the bass was from another fishery. Just disgusting! Nobody has seen him around the San Diego lakes btw, there are plenty of places he could've disappear to, but So - Cal lakes are relatively small and highly pressured, he's not showing up without someone noticing.

  • @lukycharms9970
    @lukycharms9970 Год назад +19

    Imagine cheating so long that you get so confident that you actually sell your boat with your secret livewell still installed in a secret compartment

  • @ajword81
    @ajword81 Год назад +30

    I'm on my 5th trip in a row getting skunked, and I'd rather be honest about that, than lie about catching anything.
    I don't get these guys...🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @codyschale263
      @codyschale263 Год назад

      Social media, your nothing without clout. And people have always been dishonest since the beginning so..

    • @69jbr69
      @69jbr69 Год назад

      Agreed and even if I catch fish nonstop I tell everyone I didn't catch anything. When I am on a skunk run I do the exact opposite of what I think I should and results are usually surprising. That fishing is a never ending puzzle.

    • @chrisnoname2725
      @chrisnoname2725 Год назад +1

      @@codyschale263 there are actually a lot of honest people with pride, that aren't shallow clout chasing losers.

    • @codyschale263
      @codyschale263 Год назад

      @@chrisnoname2725 I agree, but the horde of zombies on social media are expanding and people are literally getting dumber by the day.

    • @chrisnoname2725
      @chrisnoname2725 Год назад

      @@codyschale263 Well yes, I agree with that.

  • @danielslover8669
    @danielslover8669 Год назад +18

    I agree with you. The extreme lengths that he went to are crazy. I don’t understand how or why “winning “ is that important to them. If I win a tournament (and I’m talking a $10 entry fee club or open tournament) , I feel pride. If I don’t place in the same type of tournament, I still feel pride. I did the best I could that day and it either worked or didn’t. That’s it. Then I congratulate whoever won and discuss what we should’ve done with the rest of the people that didn’t win. It just boils down to morals. Most folks have them and live by them. Then you have people like what this discussion is all about. Win at all cost. It will catch you eventually.

  • @willembry5469
    @willembry5469 Год назад +13

    There’s a guy here in West Tennessee that got busted for catching crappie in a different lake and tried to turn them in at a Crappie Masters tournament on a different lake. The tournament director told him he could weigh in, and be prosecuted or don’t weigh in and never come back. He didn’t weigh in. On a side note, I heard Mike Long couldn’t cast very well

  • @Bassmaster1256
    @Bassmaster1256 Год назад +50

    Mike Long for a long time was know as "Live Bait Mike" because some of his big fish were actually caught using live trout. He was fishing tournaments here in Southern California in the early 2000's and on and we all suspected him of cheating. He actually sucked as a bass fisherman when fishing team tournaments with a partner. He won a lot of tournaments BUT it was always while fishing by himself. I personally left 3 tournaments before launching because Mike Long showed up by himself. Which BTW, he won those tournaments.

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад +8

      Craziness! Where has he been at now?

    • @kc72186
      @kc72186 Год назад +6

      Used to see him out at lake Perris in the early 2000s and my buddy and I saw him using what sure looked like live trout.

    • @Bassmaster1256
      @Bassmaster1256 Год назад +7

      @@5050fishing He's almost like dropped off the face of the earth since he was exposed as a big bass "snagger".

    • @secretbassrigs
      @secretbassrigs Год назад +1

      @@5050fishing I heard he moved to North Korea to do RUclips videos. 😂

    • @dragonsnatch1146
      @dragonsnatch1146 Год назад +2

      @@5050fishing Word is he still fishes lake cuyamaca in the mountains.

  • @kavak1344
    @kavak1344 Год назад +22

    If I remember right. I heard stories about Mike Long sabotaging people's vehicles, that were a threat to exposing him

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад +8

      Dang I forgot about that! He did a lot of scandalous 💩 lol

    • @PHUCKyoutube689
      @PHUCKyoutube689 Год назад +1

      He threatened his partners son, the one that originally saw the tank with the bass at his house.

    • @kenneth9874
      @kenneth9874 Год назад

      Maybe that's why he's disappeared

    • @stewybagodonuts817
      @stewybagodonuts817 20 дней назад

      @@kenneth9874after he was exposed for snagging

  • @mjk934
    @mjk934 Год назад +25

    I'm a former successful bass tournament angler from Canada, cheaters are a slap to our faces, charges need to be increased 👊

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад +1

      I agree

    • @rs-vl2im
      @rs-vl2im Год назад

      if you aint cheatin you aint trying

    • @rs-vl2im
      @rs-vl2im Год назад

      @@ColoRadoSNOWrider not as lame as Colorado

    • @rs-vl2im
      @rs-vl2im Год назад

      @@ColoRadoSNOWrider Im not you bud.

  • @fredtflail
    @fredtflail Год назад +3

    There's video and a huge article about Mike Long. Didn't seem to get a lot of publicity outside of California.

  • @brianhart1573
    @brianhart1573 Год назад +8

    From Oklahoma, been bass fishing for 46 years,fished a lot of tournaments this has been going on for ever,I know to be true a guy weighed a dead 11 ,won tournament someone took fish home with permission from angler to eat ,it still has ice inside

  • @fisher8876
    @fisher8876 9 месяцев назад +3

    my dad took 2nd to mike long like 20 times in tournaments in the 2000’s and he knew he was cheating, crazy it took that long for him to actually be exposed

  • @DanHiteshew-oneandonly
    @DanHiteshew-oneandonly Год назад +9

    The Mike Long Story is insane! I'm actually fascinated by his mentality. How could you build your whole life and persona around being a big bass pro, when you don't even know how to fish!?

    • @jarrettesselman8144
      @jarrettesselman8144 Год назад

      Someone should take Bidens fishing boat away

    • @PHUCKyoutube689
      @PHUCKyoutube689 Год назад

      He knew how to fish but wasn't anything special. We would see him at the lakes every now and then. Most of us knew something was up. Guy's were shady out here back then when they were chasing the next world record. It was also rumored that he would use live trout and kept them in a hidden live well. This was when he was starting to make a name for himself catching big bass.

  • @amye4131
    @amye4131 Год назад +4

    I love the sport of fishing and appreciate what y'all do. I'm fascinated like so many others about this controversy. My only question is since this hasn't been the only cheating scandal - the cheaters that are caught are there actual charges given to these people? Lots of money people invest in being part of these tournaments would be a good reason to charge these guys with fraud. Does this end result happen ever or are they just banned?

  • @nightrider5420
    @nightrider5420 Год назад +6

    I was vacationing on a lake in maine fishing a very productive cave, A cove I have fished for years when a local in a canoe came up to me and asked me politely to "Not Fish the cove" and that the "local Pro" was fishing A BASS sanctioned tournament in 2 days and that "He planned on winning it here on the cove". That explained why I had seen a fisherman release 5 or 6 big Smallmouth Bass two days before over an isolated grass bed. Would you consider that cheating? I do.

    • @PHUCKyoutube689
      @PHUCKyoutube689 Год назад +2

      I would have laughed at that person so hard they would have heard me at the launch ramp, followed by a polite "F off".

    • @stewybagodonuts817
      @stewybagodonuts817 20 дней назад

      Releasing bass where u were fishing? Did they catch them there? More explain needed?

  • @Fishingin290
    @Fishingin290 Год назад +14

    There's lot of things that need to clean up on tournament fishing. These cheaters getting exposed is good lesson for tournaments to be aware of, and create rules to prevent stuff like this happening. I see more tournaments using metal detectors, and larger ones using volunteers, a body on the boat to verify these catches, hell I put my name in that hat.. Have to implement rules to prevent this stuff happening, look at everything possible from past and what people are capable of doing.. Sad we're there, but there's alway that guy like we see. While we're at it, different subject, we should include fish management, guys have to realize these fish can't be out of the water for 3--5 minutes. I continue to see it at weigh ins, and fish being thrown into empty sacks just to drive back to the ramp to drop off, and some are trying to revive them. This is a great sport, I absolutely love bass fishing, but if we don't take care of our fisheries and prevent a-holes from cheating, we're going to ruin it for everyone in the future.

    • @Otownbassin
      @Otownbassin Год назад +2

      I worked as a weigh master for a local series last year, no one really cared if the anglers or I placed the fish in the tank and the series was in its 25th year. Then I noticed a team that would pinch the gills and scoop water with the fish to fill the mouth with water and then hold the fish in a vertical manner before dropping them in a tank full of water that had been zeroed. There was a specific rule change made immediately after that stated the weigh master had to handle all fish.

    • @richardbossman9875
      @richardbossman9875 Год назад

      Let’s not forget jackass “pros” cranking a bass’s jaw while trying to hold it level from just the mouth.

  • @simonassouline1230
    @simonassouline1230 Год назад +5

    Couldn’t agree more! Fished the lakes he frequently regularly, meet him a couple of times! 25 years ago, it was well known through the bass community that Mike cheated regularly! No one could prove it, but time and karma did it’s job! Lived in San Diego, for 42 years!

  • @snusnu2978
    @snusnu2978 Год назад +6

    Lol Mike long is my uncle. I remember going to his house when I was young and seeing the bass in the tanks. Crazy how all that was involved in scandal. I thought they were his pets lol.

  • @jimmycline4778
    @jimmycline4778 Год назад +1

    As Corn Pop once told me, if you ain’t cheatin you ain’t tryin!!!

  • @jackieparker1847
    @jackieparker1847 Год назад +4

    I saw guy snagging bass on mlf one time. Using LiveScope and big spoon with huge treble hooks. I got chastised for saying that. People claimed I don’t know how to fish big spoons. I know exactly how. He was way behind so he took advantage of the rules that haven’t been changed for using LiveScope. He was sacking em up but half were snagged. They do the same thing with salmon run but they outlawed the big treble hooks

  • @smallmouthmessiah8496
    @smallmouthmessiah8496 Год назад +3

    I knew you’d keep making these

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад

      👀

    • @michaelvoorhees5978
      @michaelvoorhees5978 Год назад

      Yep he said he was done with it but the money/ views are too tempting to help his word... kinda like tournament cheaters...$$$ no shame

  • @BiggameTechJourney
    @BiggameTechJourney Год назад

    Money all cheater care about. I heard this story while back too it crazy. I like you making this type of video. Keep it up

  • @scottodonahoe9505
    @scottodonahoe9505 Год назад +5

    Don't see the color thing being much of an indicator to cheating . I catch small mouth here on the upper Mississippi river in WI on wing dams with perfect camo patterns on them . Then an hour in the live well turns them solid brown !

  • @jimmy2thymes916
    @jimmy2thymes916 Год назад +8

    I just heard of some guys catching paddlefish in a lake where they are protected....then bringing them to another body of water. They are facing prison time.

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад +2

      Did that recently happen?

    • @jimmy2thymes916
      @jimmy2thymes916 Год назад +3

      @@5050fishing I saw the headline last week. Looks like the poaching took place in 2018 but one of them just got sentenced to 6 months in prison and has to pay a $20K fine. I googled "paddlefish poachers" and there are a few articles.

  • @mudieproductions
    @mudieproductions Год назад

    Cool story to hear thanks for the video!

  • @oldstruck1964
    @oldstruck1964 Год назад +3

    Jussie slommett says he's going to take up fishing. Even if you get caught cheating, no punishment will be giving.

    • @michiwonderoutdoors2282
      @michiwonderoutdoors2282 Год назад

      Former Empire actor Jussie Smollett has been sentenced to 150 days in jail after he was convicted in 2021 on five felony counts of lying to the police.

    • @PHUCKyoutube689
      @PHUCKyoutube689 Год назад

      He was punished, maybe not by the law but he lost all his sponsorships, has zero respect and won't even show his face at the lakes.

  • @bmoorear
    @bmoorear Год назад +5

    I fished San Vicente, El Cap and Morena weekly back in the hayday of Mike Long. My fishing buddy used to always notice him and point him out, just regular fishing during the week.......not during tourneys. He never seemed to be doing what other anglers were doing and would be in weird spots. I always suspected that he was using live trout when I saw him at San V. I remember thinking "something is going on" this dude pulls out a lake record everywhere he goes and don't forget about the "snow bass" at Lake Cuyamaca, that one was the biggest joke of all.

    • @kc72186
      @kc72186 Год назад +2

      Yep, seen him at Perris doing weird stuff back then, I was pretty sure he was using live trout.

    • @trevortatham349
      @trevortatham349 Год назад +2

      The snow bass is a great story

    • @dragonsnatch1146
      @dragonsnatch1146 Год назад +2

      The snow bass video is hilarious

  • @scottcraig972
    @scottcraig972 Год назад +2

    I brought a baby bass home from a local housing lake. He fit in a Dr pepper can. I named him roachclip. That damn fish eat me out of house &home. Had a virosious appetite. He even enjoyed bologna. !! Anything meat based. A true predator !!

  • @universalbeats352
    @universalbeats352 Год назад +3

    he really should be locked up for stealing people's money

  • @modgmodg6987
    @modgmodg6987 Год назад +2

    I remember easing an article back in 1920’s I believe. Black bass weighed in at 22 lbs at a tourney in GA. It was found to have weights put down the throat. Even back then, 🤦🏻‍♂️ cheaters.

  • @peregrinesmith1117
    @peregrinesmith1117 Год назад +2

    Sounds like the big fishing tournaments are the problem. Cheaters everywhere.

  • @michaelcollier6390
    @michaelcollier6390 Год назад +4

    I bought Mike Long's personal signature swim bait rod 12 years ago in which he hand delivered to me at the bait store I bought it from. I wouldn't even scratch my "balls" with it now.

    • @yoooo3231
      @yoooo3231 Год назад

      Why would you want to scratch your balls with it in the first place ?

    • @downinsd1
      @downinsd1 Год назад

      Is that a GUSA rod? Those are nice rods.

    • @WFSmith
      @WFSmith 10 месяцев назад

      To bad you weren't smart enough to realize he was a cheater before you bought one of his rods.

    • @stewybagodonuts817
      @stewybagodonuts817 20 дней назад

      Would you scratch his balls with it? Lol

    • @psilocypher
      @psilocypher 14 дней назад

      @@WFSmithWhat a ridiculous comment.

  • @dubes5594
    @dubes5594 Год назад +14

    One guy in Florida claimed he caught a 22+ pound largemouth bass but for a reason I forget, he was only able to mount the head.
    Someone called BULLSHIT, and it turned out he mounted the head of a saltwater grouper and painted it up like a largemouth for the state record.
    It was an article in a fishing magazine sometime in the 1980s or 90s.

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад +3

      That is crazy….

    • @_matt_160
      @_matt_160 Год назад

      I’m pretty sure 22 pounds is the current world record for a largemouth. Obviously the fella you’re talking about faked it though.

    • @jemeeladams1197
      @jemeeladams1197 Год назад

      I remember that

    • @michaelvoorhees5978
      @michaelvoorhees5978 Год назад +1

      @Nomen Clature I've caught a 13 lb smallmouth in Tennessee

    • @wadecohagan2388
      @wadecohagan2388 Год назад +1

      @@michaelvoorhees5978 hahahaha good one

  • @LargeBasstafarian
    @LargeBasstafarian Год назад +6

    Just read up on this guy a few weeks ago .. hoping with the attention the walleye cheaters get, Mike Long get some more too. Kudos for bringing thus up (again)

  • @Maine307
    @Maine307 Год назад +1

    i went to Jr High Middle School with the son of Orlando Wilson...and the stories he would tell us around the lunch table about the fish cheaters...and thier tricks. If u ever asked Mr Wilson about cheaters... he could produce a list a mile long of all the tricks.. The thing is, we asked his son..all the time..how does he catch those fish?? we knew the spots he fished.. and we just could belive the sizes his dad would catch.. to this day, ..i have always rememered the weights in gullet trick..i knew it at a young age..they also carries shots filled with liquid filler they would inject intot he fish.. ( injections mixed with corn starch and play sand) to increase the weight..every once counted..

  • @dcatura1
    @dcatura1 11 месяцев назад

    Can anyone link me the original sdfish article on Mike Long’s cheating? sdfish’s server seems to be non-existent now.

  • @FleetTech97
    @FleetTech97 11 месяцев назад

    What is the issue with snagging and what is it? I’m new to the sport just wondering

  • @svenngunnarrustgard1228
    @svenngunnarrustgard1228 Год назад +2

    It even made the news here in norway 😂😂 famous for all the wrong reasons 😂😂

  • @shaundiltz5821
    @shaundiltz5821 Год назад +2

    I think the whole fishing community needs to email the Ohio DNR. THey need to prosecute to the fullest as an example. THis has national headlines. It would be nice to see these pos's in prison for 20 years. Teach other poachers/cheaters not to try this crap.

  • @jeffjames4064
    @jeffjames4064 Год назад

    Destroying the time honored tradition of "the one that got away" lie

  • @alex111683
    @alex111683 Год назад +1

    Yeah I don't know why Mike Long didn't make much bigger news. I think it's because that was before TikTok and Instagram were huge. This guy's whole career was on lies. He would literally go fish a body of water and catch the record fish for that water within the hour. And he'd always film his big catches in super low resolution, if he ever he filmed.

  • @dominicconnor3437
    @dominicconnor3437 Год назад

    When they are giving polygraphs to run a tournament it's time to stop lol

  • @mrskipadedodah5094
    @mrskipadedodah5094 Год назад +1

    Look in Louis Spray Musky story. 1939 worlds biggest Musky. To this day people say he paid people to catch fish and he fattened it up with weights or ground fish.
    Seen the mount at fishing hall of fame in Wisconsin. It is big But swear it is Same size as a Bass pro fish in their tanks.
    Several other “record” breakers were stuffed with weights and tools. Tons of articles about the early record days

  • @doggmansnapperdude3405
    @doggmansnapperdude3405 Год назад

    So I always thought bc I have a small retention pond that’s so small but has a channel that’s 3’ deep but the pond is the color of coffee I mean 0 clarity but most of the lake is 6” deep the birds walk across this thing just a couple holes but for some reason they’re is starving 5 pounders in there and they’re in there naturally but they are all pure white even the small ones and I thought or still think it’s bc they don’t get sun I feel like clear water they get a tan from the sun and without it they are light colored??

  • @TheGhostfisherman
    @TheGhostfisherman Год назад

    greetings from finland ! i just wonder why this kind a competition you dont take just a measures not weight.every boat has to be judge who take the fish measures.

  • @donaldosborne3669
    @donaldosborne3669 Год назад +1

    Mike, did go to other lakes but did not go to Nor Cal to claim a lake record as stated in this video.

  • @kevinbeaudean704
    @kevinbeaudean704 5 месяцев назад

    Thanx, I can't even fathom that mentality. How can you live with yourself. Their pictures should be in every tackle shop, boat ramp or where ever anglers congregate.

  • @EDCIndiana
    @EDCIndiana Год назад +3

    I don't think this was the first time those 2 cheated. It's hard telling how long they got away with it. I'm guessing most of their wins. They amount of money they got makes this worse to me. Mike long sounds like a piece of work also.

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад +1

      I’m sure it wasn’t but their careers weren’t as long as mike longs

  • @catchofthedave8681
    @catchofthedave8681 Год назад +7

    Theres been some pretty nasty cheating scandals in the kayak fishing world. We catch, measure, photo, submit, release. The photo gps pings you to the map to make sure you on legal water, theres a daily code they give you that must be displayed in the pic, all fish must be held same way on board, with one hand holding fish down, or no hands.
    So the worst cheating in kayak, a guy in texas cut the tail off a bass and then when he’d measure the next several fish, he’d hold the tail over the real tail adding an inch or two, and he’d hold the fish down where hand covered the cut part of tail so at first glance it looked legit.
    Now theres people messing with the meta data on their phones and building apps so that their phones will show they are in a certain place when they take pics. Or the app will show a certain place when really the person is in a completely dif body of water. That’s the future of kayak cheating. Luckily it looks like the hobies and bigger tourneys sre trying to go to a more live stream format where a good portion of boats will have live cams. They also have the camera boat that comes out and follows people around, etc. But for state trails, you will start hearing of this type of cheating. Also theres people that plant fish while kayak fishing practice, and theres people that have their buddy on the lake in a bass hoat bring them fish to measure, etc
    Dont get it twisted, Theres a bunchnof ways to beat a polygraph. Polyis just a tool and a deterrent cuz most people have no idea snd think they are crazy accurate. But meditation beats them, lack of empathy, mental tricks where you repeat a lie to yourself so much over the day you respond to telling that lie as if its fact.
    People who have aspergers and certain personality disorders or anxiety disorders can show inconclusive or pass telling lies.
    Many types of common drugs can throw off a polygraph, from otc sleeping pills, to blood pressure meds, gabapentin, seizure meds, benzos like valium, cbd, thc……all can change your physiological responses to lying and throw off the test.
    People can also manipulate the baseline questions by thinking hard of traumatic events theyve suffered or causing themselvesnphysical pain by biting their tongues……doing that while answering the baseline questions truthfully can completely throw off the test and cause inconclusives or make it look like lies are the truth to the examiner. Every single person is different and has dif responses thats why the exsminer has to ask a bunch of baseline questions. Every test is catered to the individual, theres not some set response range that proves pass or fail. If people knew the truth of polygraphs, theyd never be used. Theres a reason they dont hold up in court.

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад +2

      I remember the guy using the tails. Those photos looked ridiculous

    • @michaelvoorhees5978
      @michaelvoorhees5978 Год назад

      You just gave me some great new ideas. Gonna have to try some of these. I usually place near the bottom of our kayak tournaments.

    • @catchofthedave8681
      @catchofthedave8681 Год назад

      @@michaelvoorhees5978 roflol

    • @catchofthedave8681
      @catchofthedave8681 Год назад

      @@michaelvoorhees5978 the future of kayak cheating is the metadata manipulation on your phone--/making it show as you are submitting fish from legal, tourney waters when really you are 2 counties away on a bass factory lake

    • @stewybagodonuts817
      @stewybagodonuts817 20 дней назад

      I saw one recently there was 2 inches / numbers missing in the middle of the ketch board🤦‍♂️

  • @luster5497
    @luster5497 Год назад +1

    You're right on the money, fish lighten up and darken on daylight plus temperature.

  • @isaacsalmi427
    @isaacsalmi427 Год назад +1

    First and foremost, respect the fish. Secondly, if you are fishing tournaments, respect your fellow anglers. It's stuff like this that makes all anglers look bad, even though it's like 1 percent that do this type of stuff.

  • @cwatson42785
    @cwatson42785 Год назад

    Yup I completely agree about Mike being the worst. I remember when the scandal with him broke was huge news

  • @theoutdoorsman9726
    @theoutdoorsman9726 Год назад

    I fish quite a few bass tournaments, never fished a walleye tournament. Here in western ky where I’m located walleye, while they are present in some of our rivers and reservoirs, don’t have a super high population number and aren’t really targeted by many people here. Anyway I personally haven’t fished a tournament where someone was caught cheating so I could only imagine how fired up a crowd would be if it happened. That’s a lot of money a cheater would be stealing from everyone. I’ve been reading this stuff after all this happened and evidently cheaters are stuffing fish with ice now so they’re getting smarter. After being weighed all the evidence just melts away. 🤦‍♂️

  • @geneelkins1707
    @geneelkins1707 Год назад +2

    The Mike Long story is just another example of greed and ego trumping everything. The walleye guys and Long are both bad deals.

  • @ben1449
    @ben1449 Год назад +2

    Walleye guys aren’t hiding they are arrested

  • @astrophysicistguy
    @astrophysicistguy Год назад +1

    Af friend of his gave him 24/7 access to a SanDiego lake and he caught some at night when no one else could

    • @PHUCKyoutube689
      @PHUCKyoutube689 Год назад

      Not only nights but the closed days. Hugh did that for a few guys when he ran Jennings. He was just trying to promote the lake.

  • @90Garfield
    @90Garfield Год назад

    Hey, you didn't place any links in the description about investigations or source/support information of Mike Longs cheating.

    • @PHUCKyoutube689
      @PHUCKyoutube689 Год назад

      Sdfish has the story as the website owner is the one that busted him.

  • @freddyeltigre2327
    @freddyeltigre2327 Год назад +1

    I fished in tournaments where huge Walleye that were caught, had been held in Gabions , this went on for years, until they found scares on walleye's noses and sides where they tried to get
    out, One Judge noticed the same Guys winning and decided too investigate the walleye's, and sure enough the truth came out, and they shut the walleye Tournament down. This was many years ago in Canada. It ended up that a few Indians were selling the big fish to the highest bidders, My fish were over the 10lb range and I ended In 14th position no prizes. This went on in other tournaments as well, around the same Area. Most Tournaments in the areas have also shut down , due too cheats.

    • @lightinbrian5938
      @lightinbrian5938 Год назад +1

      Interesting story, had to look up what a gabion was LOL

    • @freddyeltigre2327
      @freddyeltigre2327 Год назад +1

      @@lightinbrian5938 A Gabion is a cage that they fill with rock to protect shorelines usually 4 Ft .by Wide 8 Ft. Long . 4 Ft. high.

  • @theregoesone3225
    @theregoesone3225 Год назад +3

    He was on the cover of Bass Master magazine

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад +1

      Yeap! Everyone thought dude was a stick.

    • @theregoesone3225
      @theregoesone3225 Год назад +1

      @@5050fishing and apparently he sucked, low actual skill level.

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад +1

      @@theregoesone3225 that’s what I heard. Toward the end he could fish a little but yeah he was straight trash lol

  • @jeremiahmueller3560
    @jeremiahmueller3560 Год назад +1

    If you can catch a fish, you can catch a fish... they were passing those polygraphs by taking some sort of downers to keep their blood pressure low.

    • @5050fishing
      @5050fishing  Год назад +1

      Yeah they had to of been doing something

  • @josephmeekins9877
    @josephmeekins9877 Год назад

    Time to get some mouse traps bud!

  • @bradallen7247
    @bradallen7247 Год назад +1

    The guy that busted him was an x partner that knew his pattern of lakes during spawn and went and videod from up in woods while long was on facebook claimin he caught on jig but snagged it dude was on fb also showing him snagging at same time

  • @CrazyEightyEights
    @CrazyEightyEights Год назад

    Most Americans despise cheaters of any ilk! Cheating is a slap in the face to all who genuinely compete. 'Winning' by cheating is a hollow victory and inevitably, sooner or later such theft will be discovered and punished.

  • @glennschramm7255
    @glennschramm7255 Год назад

    I have a Dobyns rod that has his name on it a Mike Long special

  • @yep.fishing
    @yep.fishing Год назад

    Mike Long, the Eddie Guerrero of fishing

  • @heatherstrommen3413
    @heatherstrommen3413 10 месяцев назад

    Ive seen him he looks so different it all makes sense now

  • @kimskitchen123
    @kimskitchen123 Год назад +2

    Integrity trumps having great angler skills. 😏 All these cheaters are living a lie.

  • @ownlydown5933
    @ownlydown5933 10 месяцев назад

    Welp. Gotta do what you gotta do to survive make money and eat right? Lol.

  • @packerjh2
    @packerjh2 Год назад

    Dark water makes the colors bolder on some fish

  • @rickhay9782
    @rickhay9782 Год назад +1

    Not just cheaters, they are thieves...and thieves have no conscience that it why they continue to try to win at all cost ...to steal prizes, prize money, and accolades ...

  • @Quetzachapin
    @Quetzachapin Год назад

    Lol. You’ve seen my comments on the other channels as I can see. You’re welcome. 👍🏼

  • @mikedickinson9730
    @mikedickinson9730 Год назад +1

    Mike Long holds the record at Diamond Valley Lake in Hemet. I had a feeling that he most likely did not catch it to be honest.
    Edit: They removed him!

    • @randyjudyshepherd3649
      @randyjudyshepherd3649 Год назад

      Ok fishermen I have fished turnys all over the U.S. I caught my first big bass in a spring fed pound outside Springfield Mo.in 1968 on a wooden jitterbug black with white high lites itbottomed

    • @randyjudyshepherd3649
      @randyjudyshepherd3649 Год назад

      Out our 8lb scale and it didn’t even bounce then dad had me walk back into the pound and revive her till she left my hands on her own power those were hard lessons for an 8yr old boy that lived to fish I learned another lesson that year not to lie or steal for anyone who will do one will do the other a person who I believed was my friend stole my wooden jitterbug and lied to me about that he broke it off what I’m hitting to is that when the prize is so big that people will sell there sole to win that prize

    • @randyjudyshepherd3649
      @randyjudyshepherd3649 Год назад

      And usually it’s money or prestige that leads to money take away the money prizes boats and trophies bigger than 12”in any direction and has a value of more than $40.00 then a man who fishes a tournament is only taking home what he brought his name and prestige of wining much like the Olympics used to be. Let’s see what happens to the cheating then

  • @shauncorless8965
    @shauncorless8965 Год назад

    It's not only in USA that cheats prosper I've seen here in England fish with weights in and fish being transferred to venue,s ,,what can you do 🤔

  • @astrophysicistguy
    @astrophysicistguy Год назад

    Yep, Mike long. BASS actually put him on the cover of their magazine.

  • @scottswift1394
    @scottswift1394 Год назад

    That's like the hunters who hunt in yellowstone

  • @cjaydustie1867
    @cjaydustie1867 Год назад

    I’m actually surprised checking fish for weights isnt standard practice for competitions like these.
    That is like the first thing that comes to mind when thinking how to cheat and isn’t creative at all. Guys need to think outside the box.

  • @astrophysicistguy
    @astrophysicistguy Год назад +2

    A co angler said he barely knew how to cast

  • @brianvelte6175
    @brianvelte6175 Год назад

    They are not alone!

  • @ikashibimauler
    @ikashibimauler Год назад

    They need to record all catches on video with chest cameras and tournament day specific wrist bands and mark individual fish on video to compare with the actual fish brought to weigh in. For the tournament's weigh in, the tournaments need to stop using weight as the decider and go with a point scale based on length and girth. That way nobody is cramming ice or shad or fillets down a fish before weigh in.

  • @MakerInMotion
    @MakerInMotion Год назад

    A Garrett security wand is $150. What the hell are they doing with polygraphs and voice stress analysis? Just scan the fish like the doorman at a club. Squeeze test too in case they try ceramic weights.

  • @isaacsalmi427
    @isaacsalmi427 Год назад

    I mainly fish walleye. I catch different species as well. A few times, I have accidentally snagged a fish while trolling or casting. I have always released the snagged fish out of respect for the fish. My thinking is the fish has enough to deal with navigating nature without me not catching it legally. I give it a sorry for snagging you and here you go back into the lake.

  • @smdnsnnd7254
    @smdnsnnd7254 Год назад +3

    I appreciate the effort and lengths he went to... he put a lot of thought into it...

  • @chriscarr6392
    @chriscarr6392 Год назад +1

    I live in San Diego. In the mid 90s I was all in with the big bass hunts. I even left work early to attend a Mike Long seminar at a fishing store. Also, when I was taking my kids to the Poway Lake youth tournaments, Mike was one the MCs. Wow, you talk about the big news when he was exposed. What a total POS.

  • @blondeonthepond2530
    @blondeonthepond2530 Год назад

    Google the 2 guys cheating on KY lake in 2006. Catching Bass and putting them in baskets and submerging them. That's the one that sticks in my mind bc it's in my neck of the woods. That ticks me off to no end. I work my butt off, fishing before and after work, to do well in online tournaments, starting "pole loaner" programs at the library where I work that allows patrons to check out rods and reels, and hopefully one have a career in the fishing world. I have no use for someone who screws over those who play by the rules, to take the easy way out, but thought and energy into cheating in any way. I don't know how some folks live with themselves thinking that ok. Shame on you.

  • @WilliamBrinkley45
    @WilliamBrinkley45 Год назад

    To understand how a cheater or scammer feels pride and satisfaction about the way they win or get rich, you have to understand that to a cheater or scammer the the skill they take pride in is fooling people and getting one over on everyone. The fame and prize money is just a side effect of being a successful con man. That’s why cheaters and scammers continue to run scams long after they have made millions of dollars or gotten rich and famous…they love getting away with it. Some aspect of having higher risk giving them a greater satisfaction is present considering that the repercussions of getting caught are greater than the repercussions of simply not winning so the thrill and excitement of getting away with the cheating feels 100x greater than they would feel had they won legitimately. To them, fooling everyone and making all that money at some other suckers expense and keeping their dark secret is more exciting, satisfying, and fulfilling than being a famous fishing tournament champ.

  • @glenpuyallup3847
    @glenpuyallup3847 Год назад

    Fishing tournaments need to scan all fish being weighed in under a metal detector, period, no exceptions. There are a lot of inexpensive detectors available that would work just fine for the job.

  • @maxsfight2432
    @maxsfight2432 Год назад

    I can’t believe what people will do to win a frickin fishing tournament! All the hard working honest anglers who got screwed over for years should be furious!🤬🤬🤥🤥

  • @sonnyc3826
    @sonnyc3826 Год назад

    now your tnak water is brackish again...different tanks i think try one of those purification cubes im telling you you wont regret it makes you tanks water crystal clear. take a before and after picture to show yourself as if you look at the tank everyday you might not notice since the colour change will be normalto you but over 3 days you'll see the diufference it gets rid of the green brackish colour of the water.

  • @bigdaddyhognuts9413
    @bigdaddyhognuts9413 Год назад +1

    They ( Erie guys) have also failed lie detector test

  • @donniebelcher7214
    @donniebelcher7214 Год назад

    This is why I don't fish tournaments

  • @kerrypitt9789
    @kerrypitt9789 Год назад

    BASS is in my opinion an organization run by fear.
    Mike Iaconelli tells of a time early in his career, that another BASS pro who didn't like this new Rookie. He won the tournament but on his way home he was phoned by a guy (Dewey something) telling him to come for a polygraph. He had been fishing amongst other anglers in the tournament and he had a Co-Angler. Funnily enough they all said they saw him fishing outside the boundaries. He wasn't. I question that they actually interviewed anyone. When he took the polygraph it was given by a guy with no credentials and when he failed Mike wanted to pay for an actual Tester. He was denied but they told him he would just lose the one day. Mike was pretty angry. The last name of the contestant who complained was Butter I believe but he did not have to take a polygraph. Mike almost quit but came back and won in the top 5 of the next one then won Angler of the year. There is always corruption where there is money. This story comes from Mike's Autobiography on RUclips

  • @dalecox9913
    @dalecox9913 Год назад

    Will somebody help me I heard Bill dance got caught cheating in bass tournament ?

  • @johnnytrammell3774
    @johnnytrammell3774 Год назад

    I caught a guy cheating in a tournament on Lake Fork. He cut the tail to make it under 16”. I took a pic of him and sent it to the tournament director and got caught. He failed the lie detector test and was banned from fishing that circuit.

  • @40below1000
    @40below1000 Год назад

    I don't fish, but why are competition fish not routinely cut open on a table by the scales immediately after weigh-in? It's dead, so you need to gut it ASAP anyway, and you'd notice any extra fish ballast a lot easier.

  • @timgallagher6529
    @timgallagher6529 Год назад

    I would like someone to track them done and do a book. Not, that any would ever be honest and say I ficked up and this is why

  • @Brandon-du3tk
    @Brandon-du3tk Год назад

    That's not me guys.

  • @dannytravis7118
    @dannytravis7118 Год назад

    That's just pathetic. I love to fish for the sake of fishing. I haven't ever done a tournament, but I'm thinking about it. Truthfully I'm not real good. I catch whatever hits my bait. I've been impressed by anglers who can go out and just catch pan fish or crappie. And bass and walleye. There's a lot I need to learn

  • @tryptaman4315
    @tryptaman4315 Год назад

    Also. Tad wrong on the coloring about weeds and clear water. The prettiest fish I’ve ever caught are in clear water