Great video brother. I agree with some and disagree with some. I had Tekno MT410 it was a great basher no doubt and I recently got the Tekno ET48 2.0. Optional basher bumpers would have been awesome for the 2.0 I totally agree. In terms of upgrade parts M2C got you covered. In terms diffs? Proper shimming is key to long lasting diffs. What I love the most about Tekno as a basher is precise handling and superb air control. They're as good of a basher or maybe even better bashers of dialed in and tuned right.
They can't be beat in drivability that is for sure. The price to get them aftermarket tough is high though! I am just hoping to avert a repeat of my V4 Kraton that had a lot of great aftermarket bits but could not keep the diffs together (it was otherwise a total tank). The EXB arrma lineup has been a game changer for me, big value and no more blowing diffs if you go big power. I still have the ET48 kicking about (put the motor/esc into my Maxx for now) and we'll see, if others have luck going big I might follow. I think I've spent the rest of this year's RC money over black friday weekend lol. Rock on man!
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@@TheFatAssCat Well, my Kraton EXB is still blowing diffs... I'm considering going for a proper truggy kit and away from Arrma 😅
Same here, keeping my ET 48. 2.0 for a mild basher/ pure racer and got the Maxx V2 for heavy bashing and planning to get a Kraton EXB for a more durable/heavy weight basher..
Yea agree not a fully capable basher certainly designed for track racing on prepared surfaces where it excells. If bashed rocks pelted from the fronts bounce around the rear suspension and end up inside the cabin where it can damage spur, pinion and center shaft a little too often. Rocks can get wedged in the gaps of rear drive shaft and hinge pins. A rear stone gaurd is a must in these circumstances. Front arms have a lot of leverage and because the arms are designed to be flexible the softness of plastics can with a cumulation of small front crashes elongate the hinge pin holes and A/B block bushing to cause play rather quickly. It's still an awesome vehicle and responds well to tuning setups which is the hallmark difference between other bashers. A little more thought must be taken for this Tekno to be bashed responsibly that's all.
I have an ET48 2.0 and it seems like a great truck so far I haven’t had a lot of issues. That said I run on 4S always and have never used 6S. I think Tekno is high quality. But I think they are built for the track like you said. I am really debating selling my ET and getting back into a Arrma Truggy, the Talion exb specifically would suit my driving style best. Tough choice. I think Tekno 1/8 buggies are awsome bashers though, I have a EB48.4 and that thing took a pounding and kept on ticking. I’m tempted to sell my Typhon TLR and Kyosho MP9 and pick up a EB48 2.0. That or a Hobao VS2e. Those buggies seem to get rave review and they look stout
My 7 year old daughter ran my mt410, with the same ESC/Motor combo, into the rear bumper of a tractor at full throtle lol. The Gorilla tape reinforced body got a small dimple that I had to pop out with a finger and it was good to go for another 2 batteries. The T-bone front bumper or something similar is 100% recommended if bashing a Tekno, similar to what Arrma does with their bumper design...it's meant to take the majority of the impact force off the front suspension components. Many of my buddies have a fleet of arrmas and I have 3 teknos. Don't get me wrong tho, I had to give my teknos the full M2C racing treatment to be as rock solid as they are. The arrmas are very reliable as they come.
Very good review. I appreciate the upfront opinion and clear explanation. I agree that it’s okay to turn a racer into a basher when the racing days are just not happening. But probably better to buy a basher if you only intend to do so.
I'd wager the Arrma EXB diffs are the strongest ones in a 1/8 scale platform. Are they the highest quality materials? No. But their ring and sun gears/pins are oversized compared to differentials built for 4S (like the Arrma BLX differentials, Tekno differentials, etc). They are certainly not as smooth or consistant as a Tekno differential, but they are made for handling lots of power, not for racing. Which is why I prefer them for a bashing platform.
Dude I agree with you 110 percent! I have went through the exact same progression from sct410.3 to et48 2.0. My experience has been the exact same as yours! Landed my mt410 on it's ass in the grass one time and it bent the chassis and shock tower! Never had that happen with my arrma 6s rigs!
Having suffered the parts failures on the ARRMA 3S line (still ove my big rock, it really flies so nice),and having seen what breaks on the arrma 6s rigs, I went back a step and rather than a Tekno I went buggy instead and Hobao Hyper VSE and it's a damn tank, and the roller is only £230. Was temped by the tekno but decided on something with more parts availability here in the uk. Glad I did now.
I've been tempted by a few Hobao's over the years, especially their 1/10 truggy. Seem like a great cross between bashers and racers like Arrma. The Tekno is still great quality stuff but for bashing, quite expensive!
@@TheFatAssCat the overall quality was what drew me to the to the teknos in the first place, I've seen a few different RUclips rc people with them and they seem to perform really well. The hyper is superb though, I've been really impressed with the handling the only weak spot I've found so far is the shock pistons. If you stack it really badly somehow then they're easily shattered. The driveline is incredibly stout though and there is a surprising amount of good upgrade parts both manufacturer and aftermarket.
Great video, I have a 410 kit waiting for assembly this winter, I bought it a few months ago but had no rush to put it together while bashing weather was good. I also have a fleet of arrmas 1/8ths, think, that are almost all exb’b or been upgraded to exb spec and there bullet proof! Even the v5 stuff is pretty damn stout… you don’t get the metal braces or LS diffs, but you can buy eBay braces all around for $25 and truthfully I like the regular diffs tuned to LS with heavy fluid almost as much, either way, for bashing arrmas are top of food chain!
Thanks! Man if I had a BMX track or somthing similar I would have liked the MT410 so much more. Regardless it is a fun build and drives very well, you'll be pleased. For me most of my spots are grass fields so the ET48 with a little more weight and larger tires seemed ideal, I just am not sure it is for me. Drives great but for sending stuff off ramps like we do it falls a little short imo.
Many thanks for this video! Trying to decide on whether to sell my Kraton v4 with many m2c goodies (including chassis) in order to pickup an ET48.3 (also with an m2c chassis). I do some medium level bashing on 6s with my Kraton, however, my latest obsession has been running a local outdoor track with it. It handles like a total pig on track. Can I get away with some moderate bashing with the Tekno? 15 to 20 high airs with downward sloping grass landings is the most common bash setup for me.
The crash that destroyed the shock also broke the front bulkhead, which takes a while to replace. It seems to be a weak point in the tekno platform as I've also seen racers with similar breaks. Just hard to say the Tekno is a better platform when the EXB Kraton roller is almost $200 less and all around a better basher aside from the steering.
I've been bashing with Tekno for years, and decided to try an X-Maxx and Aarma 8s Outcast. If you want to spend more time bashing then repairs, go with the Tekno. Sounds like this guy hasn't spent enough time on a Tekno to be judging it as a good/bad basher. After a couple years I bet you spend twice as much on Aarma and Traxxas then Tekno.
Trust me, I've put in the time. My two key factors for me that decided to stick with the Arrmas: 1. Tekno differentials are not made for 6S power and don't stand up well, and nobody makes any worthwhile upgrades for them. You simply cannot bulletproof them. 4S is fine but you lose a lot of bashing performance. 2. All of the upgrades you'll want for the Tekno are going to get expensive in a rig that costs $200 more than an Arrma Kraton EXB from the start. Drive what you like my dude. My Tekno SCT410.3 will be sticking around for a long time as both a racer and a basher. These Truggies on the other hand don't really keep up with my dedicated bashing fleet so, I'm going to keep them on the track where I think they belong. I bought into the hype a couple years ago when I decided to pick up a MT410 and I just wanted to make a video expressing my opinion. Bash on 💪
Why i love my tekno is for me skate parks. They jump and flip and land so well that it will make an armma look like a fat flying pig. At a skate park with big pools and many angles to jump from then the tekno is nimble, predictable and you can practice your tricks better and be more consistent. I can actually drive the longer without crashing with my tekno
lmao yea ok. the kraton is made of butter. pins snapping all the time, drive cups not lasting long AT ALL, dogbones popping out CONSTANTLY even though there absolutely nothing wrong with anything, diffs giving up, shit bending all time, the screws for the rear wing snapping off in the bulkhead super easily. shocks leaking like a sieve after only a battery pack or 2 (leaking immediately from the start after completely rebuilding). nothing lasts long in that car. i dont bash very hard or jump very high at all either
@@dirtrider88 copy paste reply to the last "lmao" comment: "You're gunna want to add some arguments to your "lmfao". Especially with the pricepoint and features of the newer Kraton EXB V2."
I do believe the Arrma EXB differentials are stronger yes, the MT48 2.0 diffs are not all that different from the MT410 differentials. If you shim these right and don't add a lot of weight the ET48 2.0 diffs will probably last a while. But from the facebook groups I've talked to a number of people who have blown diffs on these. I've only seen a handful of blown EXB differentials, and there are a lot more people bashing with the 6S EXB arrmas than the Tekno.
Great video brother. I agree with some and disagree with some. I had Tekno MT410 it was a great basher no doubt and I recently got the Tekno ET48 2.0. Optional basher bumpers would have been awesome for the 2.0 I totally agree. In terms of upgrade parts M2C got you covered. In terms diffs? Proper shimming is key to long lasting diffs. What I love the most about Tekno as a basher is precise handling and superb air control. They're as good of a basher or maybe even better bashers of dialed in and tuned right.
They can't be beat in drivability that is for sure. The price to get them aftermarket tough is high though! I am just hoping to avert a repeat of my V4 Kraton that had a lot of great aftermarket bits but could not keep the diffs together (it was otherwise a total tank).
The EXB arrma lineup has been a game changer for me, big value and no more blowing diffs if you go big power.
I still have the ET48 kicking about (put the motor/esc into my Maxx for now) and we'll see, if others have luck going big I might follow. I think I've spent the rest of this year's RC money over black friday weekend lol.
Rock on man!
@@TheFatAssCat Well, my Kraton EXB is still blowing diffs... I'm considering going for a proper truggy kit and away from Arrma 😅
Same here, keeping my ET 48. 2.0 for a mild basher/ pure racer and got the Maxx V2 for heavy bashing and planning to get a Kraton EXB for a more durable/heavy weight basher..
Yea agree not a fully capable basher certainly designed for track racing on prepared surfaces where it excells.
If bashed rocks pelted from the fronts bounce around the rear suspension and end up inside the cabin where it can damage spur, pinion and center shaft a little too often. Rocks can get wedged in the gaps of rear drive shaft and hinge pins. A rear stone gaurd is a must in these circumstances.
Front arms have a lot of leverage and because the arms are designed to be flexible the softness of plastics can with a cumulation of small front crashes elongate the hinge pin holes and A/B block bushing to cause play rather quickly.
It's still an awesome vehicle and responds well to tuning setups which is the hallmark difference between other bashers. A little more thought must be taken for this Tekno to be bashed responsibly that's all.
I have an ET48 2.0 and it seems like a great truck so far I haven’t had a lot of issues. That said I run on 4S always and have never used 6S. I think Tekno is high quality. But I think they are built for the track like you said. I am really debating selling my ET and getting back into a Arrma Truggy, the Talion exb specifically would suit my driving style best. Tough choice. I think Tekno 1/8 buggies are awsome bashers though, I have a EB48.4 and that thing took a pounding and kept on ticking. I’m tempted to sell my Typhon TLR and Kyosho MP9 and pick up a EB48 2.0. That or a Hobao VS2e. Those buggies seem to get rave review and they look stout
My 7 year old daughter ran my mt410, with the same ESC/Motor combo, into the rear bumper of a tractor at full throtle lol. The Gorilla tape reinforced body got a small dimple that I had to pop out with a finger and it was good to go for another 2 batteries. The T-bone front bumper or something similar is 100% recommended if bashing a Tekno, similar to what Arrma does with their bumper design...it's meant to take the majority of the impact force off the front suspension components. Many of my buddies have a fleet of arrmas and I have 3 teknos. Don't get me wrong tho, I had to give my teknos the full M2C racing treatment to be as rock solid as they are. The arrmas are very reliable as they come.
Thank you! Seriously . You saved me from spending $1,000 building a Tekno to bash. My Talion EXB and Notorious are where it's at.
Very good review. I appreciate the upfront opinion and clear explanation. I agree that it’s okay to turn a racer into a basher when the racing days are just not happening. But probably better to buy a basher if you only intend to do so.
did you really just say the Arrmas come with excellent diffs? lol ok
I'd wager the Arrma EXB diffs are the strongest ones in a 1/8 scale platform. Are they the highest quality materials? No. But their ring and sun gears/pins are oversized compared to differentials built for 4S (like the Arrma BLX differentials, Tekno differentials, etc). They are certainly not as smooth or consistant as a Tekno differential, but they are made for handling lots of power, not for racing. Which is why I prefer them for a bashing platform.
Dude I agree with you 110 percent! I have went through the exact same progression from sct410.3 to et48 2.0. My experience has been the exact same as yours! Landed my mt410 on it's ass in the grass one time and it bent the chassis and shock tower! Never had that happen with my arrma 6s rigs!
Having suffered the parts failures on the ARRMA 3S line (still ove my big rock, it really flies so nice),and having seen what breaks on the arrma 6s rigs, I went back a step and rather than a Tekno I went buggy instead and Hobao Hyper VSE and it's a damn tank, and the roller is only £230. Was temped by the tekno but decided on something with more parts availability here in the uk. Glad I did now.
I've been tempted by a few Hobao's over the years, especially their 1/10 truggy. Seem like a great cross between bashers and racers like Arrma. The Tekno is still great quality stuff but for bashing, quite expensive!
@@TheFatAssCat the overall quality was what drew me to the to the teknos in the first place, I've seen a few different RUclips rc people with them and they seem to perform really well. The hyper is superb though, I've been really impressed with the handling the only weak spot I've found so far is the shock pistons. If you stack it really badly somehow then they're easily shattered. The driveline is incredibly stout though and there is a surprising amount of good upgrade parts both manufacturer and aftermarket.
Great video, I have a 410 kit waiting for assembly this winter, I bought it a few months ago but had no rush to put it together while bashing weather was good. I also have a fleet of arrmas 1/8ths, think, that are almost all exb’b or been upgraded to exb spec and there bullet proof! Even the v5 stuff is pretty damn stout… you don’t get the metal braces or LS diffs, but you can buy eBay braces all around for $25 and truthfully I like the regular diffs tuned to LS with heavy fluid almost as much, either way, for bashing arrmas are top of food chain!
Thanks!
Man if I had a BMX track or somthing similar I would have liked the MT410 so much more. Regardless it is a fun build and drives very well, you'll be pleased.
For me most of my spots are grass fields so the ET48 with a little more weight and larger tires seemed ideal, I just am not sure it is for me. Drives great but for sending stuff off ramps like we do it falls a little short imo.
Many thanks for this video! Trying to decide on whether to sell my Kraton v4 with many m2c goodies (including chassis) in order to pickup an ET48.3 (also with an m2c chassis). I do some medium level bashing on 6s with my Kraton, however, my latest obsession has been running a local outdoor track with it. It handles like a total pig on track. Can I get away with some moderate bashing with the Tekno? 15 to 20 high airs with downward sloping grass landings is the most common bash setup for me.
The crash that destroyed the shock also broke the front bulkhead, which takes a while to replace. It seems to be a weak point in the tekno platform as I've also seen racers with similar breaks.
Just hard to say the Tekno is a better platform when the EXB Kraton roller is almost $200 less and all around a better basher aside from the steering.
I just found this out myself, I loved my 48.3 so my tho. But i do agree
I've been bashing with Tekno for years, and decided to try an X-Maxx and Aarma 8s Outcast. If you want to spend more time bashing then repairs, go with the Tekno. Sounds like this guy hasn't spent enough time on a Tekno to be judging it as a good/bad basher. After a couple years I bet you spend twice as much on Aarma and Traxxas then Tekno.
Trust me, I've put in the time.
My two key factors for me that decided to stick with the Arrmas:
1. Tekno differentials are not made for 6S power and don't stand up well, and nobody makes any worthwhile upgrades for them. You simply cannot bulletproof them. 4S is fine but you lose a lot of bashing performance.
2. All of the upgrades you'll want for the Tekno are going to get expensive in a rig that costs $200 more than an Arrma Kraton EXB from the start.
Drive what you like my dude. My Tekno SCT410.3 will be sticking around for a long time as both a racer and a basher. These Truggies on the other hand don't really keep up with my dedicated bashing fleet so, I'm going to keep them on the track where I think they belong. I bought into the hype a couple years ago when I decided to pick up a MT410 and I just wanted to make a video expressing my opinion.
Bash on 💪
comes down to driver skill too! Not as forgiving of a platform but more fun and smooth
Why i love my tekno is for me skate parks. They jump and flip and land so well that it will make an armma look like a fat flying pig. At a skate park with big pools and many angles to jump from then the tekno is nimble, predictable and you can practice your tricks better and be more consistent. I can actually drive the longer without crashing with my tekno
hello bro nice video .... tell me what you like best et 48 or kraton what do you recommend
They do different things. I mostly bash, so the Kraton is what I run the most.
lmao yea ok. the kraton is made of butter. pins snapping all the time, drive cups not lasting long AT ALL, dogbones popping out CONSTANTLY even though there absolutely nothing wrong with anything, diffs giving up, shit bending all time, the screws for the rear wing snapping off in the bulkhead super easily. shocks leaking like a sieve after only a battery pack or 2 (leaking immediately from the start after completely rebuilding). nothing lasts long in that car. i dont bash very hard or jump very high at all either
@@dirtrider88 copy paste reply to the last "lmao" comment:
"You're gunna want to add some arguments to your "lmfao". Especially with the pricepoint and features of the newer Kraton EXB V2."
Do you think the arrma diffs are more durable then the Tekno diffs?
I do believe the Arrma EXB differentials are stronger yes, the MT48 2.0 diffs are not all that different from the MT410 differentials.
If you shim these right and don't add a lot of weight the ET48 2.0 diffs will probably last a while. But from the facebook groups I've talked to a number of people who have blown diffs on these. I've only seen a handful of blown EXB differentials, and there are a lot more people bashing with the 6S EXB arrmas than the Tekno.
Hello witch Wells do you use with your tekno ?
I was running the Arrma 6S Backflips
lmfao
You're gunna want to add some arguments to your "lmfao". Especially with the pricepoint and features of the newer Kraton EXB V2.