@@PIPERdotEXE Definitely not 100% official. This release was hacked together by the "China DOS Union". It's not an official Microsoft release, though the fact that it still exists means they likely didn't care too much. Personally I'd prefer to SYS a hard disk from a 98 floppy and then copy in the utilities and drivers I know I'll need.
Im glad to see I'm not the only one tilting ar windwills. Ive been on a multi-year quest to build my own mp3 player. I'm using a raspberry pi zero 2 though. Ive been struggling with input. I decided on a rotary encoder (ala iPod) from Adafruit. I'd love to see your dos mp3 player come to life.
Tbh, I have taken the hard route, mine really isn't the best way, and a Pi is the more sensible choice, but I saw there was a player for DOS and the ideas just converged lol. There's literally no reason to do it this way, but I was like, why not
Zune owner checking in. I still have my original first-gen Zune, and I'm slowly trying to overhaul it. I genuinely miss having a "dumb" MP3 player with physical buttons for distance running.
Wow, really? And it's still kicking? See I do too, been looking seriously at products made by Fiio, I suppose for the moment, my phone is fine for the bus, but it might be nice to separate the two
Next time you want to burn a VHD onto an SD card, just launch the command below to convert the image properly: "VBoxManage convertdd [src_file_vhd] [dest_file_img] --format RAW" (VBoxManage is in the VirtualBox software folder)
Love this project. So many memories from my first job as a tech at a small computer shop. I spent hours optimizing driver loading order on dos 6.22 to maximize the UMB usage and free up the lower memory to get games to run. Alas, I haven't done anything with that knowledge in so long. This little device has so much more processor, ram and storage than most of my systems up into the mid to late 90's! P.S. I also do initial design work in Illustrator. I export them as SVG into FreeCAD (some fiddle farting around required), correct the scale and then extrude and finish as desired for my 3d printer.
NIce project. I really enjoyed watching you work though and solve many of the issues. From a guy who used to teach Dos 5.0 back in the day it got me to thinking, this may be a project I take up in the new year (2025) as a challenge myself. Just subscribed as well, looking forward to your future videos.
Thanks man, in the end I just kept coming up against more and more brick walls, to the point I just had to pause, but we'll be back in 2025 to finish this
Still gonna be better than an ipod and i love the idea of SBC DOS machines and possibly windows 98 and XP. Something like a raspberry pi that runs all the games from DOS up XP dx8.1 games would be absolutely insane, since my old computers are pretty much done for with capacitors needing replacing
Neat that you even attempted it, and expended a great deal of effort. I do wonder if using FreeDOS would've provided less friction though. Would it be too much of a cheat to use some kind of SBC, possibly an RPi, and just run DOSBox on it?
FreeDOS likely would have been easier, starting to think I should have just switched to that, but I had my heart set on a form of MS-DOS, and sure the raspberry Pi might have been easier, but again I wanted to put this on a native x86 platform, as that's the only thing MS-DOS can run on anyway. Maybe I'll do a Pi build running DOSbian, I want to see what can be done there
Not sure how useful it would be, I've not played too much with Mpxplay, but Pimoroni, Adafruit, and the like, sell an iPod-like click wheel control. I don't think I can link here, but Pimoroni calls it "ANO Directional Navigation and Scroll Wheel Rotary Encoder" if you fancy trying to make your own breakout board with it.
You mean to tell me you got a TinyLlama, and you didn't put DOSamp 0.8 on it? Yes, Nullsoft, the makers of WinAmp, also made a DOS MP3 player. This really does not whip the llama's ass ☹️
@@PIPERdotEXE Yeah, it's not nearly as full featured as WinAmp, no UI skins or any of the bells and whistles, and it only plays MP3 format, it doesn't even do WAV, but hey that's all you're really looking for anyways huh? I hope to catch another video update sometime soon, happy holidays!
You do know that Virtualbox can use real harddisks instead of images, right? It can do so even on Windows. You also do know how to change the drive in fdisk, right? Glad you got it almost worked out regardless. :) Awesome sweater. Merry Christmas.
Almost went with that, was considering it, I thought perhaps it was more direct, but in the end it seemed like a faff... I know better now lol thanks, you too
Druaga cited. I miss that lad.
I really do too.... Miss his SSD misadventures
What?! MS-DOS 7.1?! The latest version of MS-DOS I ever knew about was 6.22. How the heck did This come out and I just didn’t know?!
This was the version that came with Windows 98, this version just got separated from that OS, probably not 100% official
@@PIPERdotEXE Definitely not 100% official. This release was hacked together by the "China DOS Union". It's not an official Microsoft release, though the fact that it still exists means they likely didn't care too much. Personally I'd prefer to SYS a hard disk from a 98 floppy and then copy in the utilities and drivers I know I'll need.
@@sedrosken831 You don't need the China DOS Union release. You can easily build your own DOS 7.1 from Windows 95 / 98 CDs.
@@bubu5908 That’s what the back half of my initial comment was referring to.
@@sedrosken831 Also, I saw that it was under the GNU GPL license.
Chronically underrated channel.
I'm subbed in first thirty seconds. If that didn't get me, the reminder to check on druaga1 would have!
Kind words both of you 🤓
Merry Christmas. An interesting video, and looking forward to your 2025!
Im glad to see I'm not the only one tilting ar windwills. Ive been on a multi-year quest to build my own mp3 player. I'm using a raspberry pi zero 2 though. Ive been struggling with input. I decided on a rotary encoder (ala iPod) from Adafruit. I'd love to see your dos mp3 player come to life.
Tbh, I have taken the hard route, mine really isn't the best way, and a Pi is the more sensible choice, but I saw there was a player for DOS and the ideas just converged lol. There's literally no reason to do it this way, but I was like, why not
Zune owner checking in.
I still have my original first-gen Zune, and I'm slowly trying to overhaul it.
I genuinely miss having a "dumb" MP3 player with physical buttons for distance running.
Wow, really? And it's still kicking? See I do too, been looking seriously at products made by Fiio, I suppose for the moment, my phone is fine for the bus, but it might be nice to separate the two
@@PIPERdotEXE Yeah, the battery is pretty much shot, and I let all of the smoke out of one audio channel, but it still works.
@@PIPERdotEXEshanling q1 etc are all cheap, great, work as wired or bluetooth DAC, and can run rockbox
Hooray, another PIPER.EXE vid!
Never give up, always a joy to see what you're up to. Your video productions are stellar!
Next time you want to burn a VHD onto an SD card, just launch the command below to convert the image properly:
"VBoxManage convertdd [src_file_vhd] [dest_file_img] --format RAW"
(VBoxManage is in the VirtualBox software folder)
Love this project. So many memories from my first job as a tech at a small computer shop. I spent hours optimizing driver loading order on dos 6.22 to maximize the UMB usage and free up the lower memory to get games to run. Alas, I haven't done anything with that knowledge in so long. This little device has so much more processor, ram and storage than most of my systems up into the mid to late 90's!
P.S. I also do initial design work in Illustrator. I export them as SVG into FreeCAD (some fiddle farting around required), correct the scale and then extrude and finish as desired for my 3d printer.
I'm a crazy fool, and there will likely be lots of crazy projects like this going forward haha this project really stretched what I'm capable of
NIce project. I really enjoyed watching you work though and solve many of the issues. From a guy who used to teach Dos 5.0 back in the day it got me to thinking, this may be a project I take up in the new year (2025) as a challenge myself. Just subscribed as well, looking forward to your future videos.
Thanks man, in the end I just kept coming up against more and more brick walls, to the point I just had to pause, but we'll be back in 2025 to finish this
Still gonna be better than an ipod and i love the idea of SBC DOS machines and possibly windows 98 and XP. Something like a raspberry pi that runs all the games from DOS up XP dx8.1 games would be absolutely insane, since my old computers are pretty much done for with capacitors needing replacing
Oh man is this scuffed. With a bit of 3D printing and some thinning out this would be much thinner. Time for a part 2?
Nice i love these retro embeded projecets
Neat that you even attempted it, and expended a great deal of effort. I do wonder if using FreeDOS would've provided less friction though. Would it be too much of a cheat to use some kind of SBC, possibly an RPi, and just run DOSBox on it?
FreeDOS likely would have been easier, starting to think I should have just switched to that, but I had my heart set on a form of MS-DOS, and sure the raspberry Pi might have been easier, but again I wanted to put this on a native x86 platform, as that's the only thing MS-DOS can run on anyway. Maybe I'll do a Pi build running DOSbian, I want to see what can be done there
It would be tremendously helpful if you added links to kicad for the pcb and source for the vortex in the description
Done
Not sure how useful it would be, I've not played too much with Mpxplay, but Pimoroni, Adafruit, and the like, sell an iPod-like click wheel control. I don't think I can link here, but Pimoroni calls it "ANO Directional Navigation and Scroll Wheel Rotary Encoder" if you fancy trying to make your own breakout board with it.
I had seen that and wondered about it's usefulness as a navigational control, all options are on the table at this point
You mean to tell me you got a TinyLlama, and you didn't put DOSamp 0.8 on it? Yes, Nullsoft, the makers of WinAmp, also made a DOS MP3 player.
This really does not whip the llama's ass ☹️
😲 DOSamp?! That sounds way better, I will be trying that for sure when I get this finished
@@PIPERdotEXE Yeah, it's not nearly as full featured as WinAmp, no UI skins or any of the bells and whistles, and it only plays MP3 format, it doesn't even do WAV, but hey that's all you're really looking for anyways huh?
I hope to catch another video update sometime soon, happy holidays!
legendary
You do know that Virtualbox can use real harddisks instead of images, right? It can do so even on Windows.
You also do know how to change the drive in fdisk, right?
Glad you got it almost worked out regardless. :)
Awesome sweater. Merry Christmas.
Almost went with that, was considering it, I thought perhaps it was more direct, but in the end it seemed like a faff... I know better now lol thanks, you too
Perhaps something like an old phone or PDA keyboard
Could do, that's good for another idea I have, though I want a simple keypad for the MP3 player idea
@@PIPERdotEXE hum well maybe you could use something like a joystick like the old PSP had
what happen last year for those who don't know ?
I seemed to have a massive brain fart and fell off the face of the Earth
@@PIPERdotEXE that happen do the best of us ;-)
Dell Figital Jukebox was the best handheld MP3
This would be 10/10 without the music. 7/10 as is.
Would be a heck of a lot more boring though
Still 10/10 for me and the music is fine
nice to see you back
Thanks man :) I don't know where I went, but glad to be back on the horse again
@@PIPERdotEXE sometimes life just gets in the way