Sadel, great info! I stress to other coworkers to code scan every car that enters the shop just for this reason. It's not always done, but I'm aware that these days unfortunately you have to CYA. The average consumer doesn't understand the complexity of today's cars and technology. They just get in and drive. 5 extra minutes of code scan can save a lot of grief later. Our industry will always be viewed as being thieves thanks to a handful of crooked shops. That'll never change. CYA. Thanks to you for providing that valuable info which can save a lot of unnecessary parts changing. Also, I've found it's OK to fire certain customers based on experiences like this one. Thank you again Sadel for your professionalism and good work! A+!
Thanks for the help, im gonna find a friend with a tool to reset my permanent valvetronic disable code(same one you took care of) this code is on my 335 2012 f30. Runs,drives, startup a little more aggressive,that is it
You had a customer from hell. Great explanation. Over the last 40 years I have learned to refuse jobs based on my gut feel about the car owner. No money is worth it!
Thank you for your efforts. A few observations: The difficulty in explaining complex systems/procedures to uneducated/ignorant customers has been an ongoing issue for decades. It is a highly sought after skill in many fields if you are capable of it. Some customers unfortunately NEVER get it (or don't want to). The difference between OEM and OBD scantool data is something that most outside (heck, many in the trade as well) do not understand or have any knowledge of. I am curious about the decision to pursue repairs on a vehicle that has several oil pressure related DTC's, i am not hugely knowledgable on BMW's, but would it not make sense to remedy those first? Thank you.
Yes, this customer was just not very receptive at all and was kind of just repetitively insinuating that I have had to just be the cause of all this issues. He didn't even seem to grasp the fact of how important oil pressure issues are and didn't care to look into them.
am working on a particular bmw in my shop presently the problem with the car is when you pack it over night it will hardly wake up the next day, I mean when you insert the smart key nothing will pop on the dash no ignition no crank but I have checked ur previous video on same issue when I checked the 2 wires on earth therminal no wire only, but I found 2 wire on positive therminal been removed already any help please I will appreciate tnx.
Sucks sometimes when you have a car with multiple issues. Sadile I recently ran into one with the high pressure oil faults and it was a doozy. The dme actually registers high pressure before the engine is ever on in data pids. In the end I did the oil control valve which was a nightmare to extract. Would love to learn more about how the oil pressure readings on these should be and how the faults come about.
This one can be one of two ways, because BMW switched the type of style they monitor the psi. One way is with a psi switch up top by the filter cap, the other later method is with a different type of psi sensor and its located down on the block under the intake, to the left area of the oil control valve. The sensors work completely different.
Hi, great thorough information and lots of patience and detail of what you did to eliminate the code, just by,ill say refreshing the latest version of software, ty!! QUESTION. I ( i have a 2013 bmw x5 35i .3.0 litre, e70 ) am under the understanding that you can just unplug the electrical connector on your valvetronic motor, the engine will then just start up fine and run fine as throttle body takes over and operates normally?? . I was told it operates this way because of safety feature and it for this purpose is for the "backup system" so if there is an issue with the valvetronic system. What are your thoughts and does the throttle body take over anyways if the valvetronic motor is disconnected??? ty for your input and also other viewers on U Tube ty
I want to know this too. My car sat in a shop for 7 months because the valvetronic system wouldn't let it start. It RANDOMLY started one day with my mechanic and we still can't figure out why. I want to just disable the system entirely but haven't heard of such a thing until your comment. I hope he comes back and says yes. lol
@@YunqTab hi Sir. this person never ever responded.... most utube people are just looking for "VIEWS" But, actually NO you cannot disconnect the valvetronic system OR disconnect the wiring plugin going to the valvetronic motor. If we/you do disconnect the wiring the car will start up fine and within a few seconds the DME will recognize there is a problem with the vehicle and the DME will surely put the vehicle in "LIMP" Mode. so there we go sir!! this is at least pertaining to my 2013 x5 35i 3.0 litre turbo ty
Next time the customer can go and pay three times the price at the other shop. He deserves it……and I hope the other shop fails to fix his issue! I think we can all assume that this customer is on Santa’s naughty list.
Those numbers refer to the complete vehicles " I-Level" or integration level. That will contain the complete overall updates of individualized module updates that you can see those numbers in the list below next to each module as in this case the DME software number was the 8638802, which it showed no new updated part number for so it just re-writes this version into it. Hope that helps
Hey boss man I have been watching your videos with the vanos system and I have this car that is throwing a 113e01 same code you have. I have re flashed the DME to the latest program I could find on my autel 908. My part number is F001-23-07-530.I beleive I need to replace the valve tronic servo motors. Please let me know if you have the time.\
Hey buddy nice work. Can you send me the link to your video better explaing this process you just did with the valvetronix slash dme update. My x5m is having the same problem and i just got an xtoll d9 pro and want to try this first.... This car has been kicking my ass for other issues aswell but im getting them lol. Please help..... Thanks for all that you do to help .
hi, I had z4 with the N20 (same gen. 3 vanos system) and nothing helped to cure those exact 2 dtcs: sw update, wiring harness, vanos motor, examining oil passages, you name it - owner decided to auction the car at the end
Code P15FB bmw 320I xdrive 2015 it sat for a month. I disconnected the battery and cleared the code it never came back on. But when I lock my doors or unlock them, i gere a loud drill noise like a bad valvtronic motor. I just dont know why I didnt get a code for a bad valvtronic motor. Anyone else experiece something similar. Is it possible my battery is bad. Some times it makes the noise after the doors have locked or randomly
CRAXY price comes from, we charged you a diag fee, thanks, but if the problem is what we think it will be and we really do not know what we are doing or we don't want to do the job just to find out its another problem, we will give you a huge price to say thanks for our not so well earned diag fee, but you need to go someplace else to get this one fixed better than what we can do it, or give you a higher degree of assuredness, that is why shops give a CRAZY price, and the law is not going to prevent a high price estimate before the job is actually completed and deemed a rip off later.
Sadel, great info! I stress to other coworkers to code scan every car that enters the shop just for this reason. It's not always done, but I'm aware that these days unfortunately you have to CYA. The average consumer doesn't understand the complexity of today's cars and technology. They just get in and drive. 5 extra minutes of code scan can save a lot of grief later. Our industry will always be viewed as being thieves thanks to a handful of crooked shops. That'll never change. CYA.
Thanks to you for providing that valuable info which can save a lot of unnecessary parts changing.
Also, I've found it's OK to fire certain customers based on experiences like this one.
Thank you again Sadel for your professionalism and good work! A+!
LoL I wonder what the guy who owns the car watching this video is thinking
Thanks for the help, im gonna find a friend with a tool to reset my permanent valvetronic disable code(same one you took care of) this code is on my 335 2012 f30. Runs,drives, startup a little more aggressive,that is it
You had a customer from hell. Great explanation. Over the last 40 years I have learned to refuse jobs based on my gut feel about the car owner. No money is worth it!
The other shop probably knows that customers antics and just priced it to the moon just to get rid of him
Good video brother, and don't worry does customer's have karma coming to them. I have a few of those customer's.
Thank you for your efforts. A few observations: The difficulty in explaining complex systems/procedures to uneducated/ignorant customers has been an ongoing issue for decades. It is a highly sought after skill in many fields if you are capable of it. Some customers unfortunately NEVER get it (or don't want to).
The difference between OEM and OBD scantool data is something that most outside (heck, many in the trade as well) do not understand or have any knowledge of.
I am curious about the decision to pursue repairs on a vehicle that has several oil pressure related DTC's, i am not hugely knowledgable on BMW's, but would it not make sense to remedy those first? Thank you.
Yes, this customer was just not very receptive at all and was kind of just repetitively insinuating that I have had to just be the cause of all this issues. He didn't even seem to grasp the fact of how important oil pressure issues are and didn't care to look into them.
@@DTEAuto it’s crazy how a rear main seal leak can cause pressure fluctuations and no one puts two and two together
Custom tune mapping (if exists) will be erased by defaulting/reprogramming DME without customer agreement.
am working on a particular bmw in my shop presently the problem with the car is when you pack it over night it will hardly wake up the next day, I mean when you insert the smart key nothing will pop on the dash no ignition no crank but I have checked ur previous video on same issue when I checked the 2 wires on earth therminal no wire only, but I found 2 wire on positive therminal been removed already any help please I will appreciate tnx.
Sucks sometimes when you have a car with multiple issues.
Sadile I recently ran into one with the high pressure oil faults and it was a doozy. The dme actually registers high pressure before the engine is ever on in data pids. In the end I did the oil control valve which was a nightmare to extract. Would love to learn more about how the oil pressure readings on these should be and how the faults come about.
This one can be one of two ways, because BMW switched the type of style they monitor the psi. One way is with a psi switch up top by the filter cap, the other later method is with a different type of psi sensor and its located down on the block under the intake, to the left area of the oil control valve. The sensors work completely different.
Mine had a psi sensor up top but the oil control valve was under the exhaust side. I think n52 with the continental dme on top of the intake manifold.
another great diagnosis
Hi, great thorough information and lots of patience and detail of what you did to eliminate the code, just by,ill say refreshing the latest version of software, ty!! QUESTION. I ( i have a 2013 bmw x5 35i .3.0 litre, e70 ) am under the understanding that you can just unplug the electrical connector on your valvetronic motor, the engine will then just start up fine and run fine as throttle body takes over and operates normally?? . I was told it operates this way because of safety feature and it for this purpose is for the "backup system" so if there is an issue with the valvetronic system. What are your thoughts and does the throttle body take over anyways if the valvetronic motor is disconnected??? ty for your input and also other viewers on U Tube ty
I want to know this too. My car sat in a shop for 7 months because the valvetronic system wouldn't let it start. It RANDOMLY started one day with my mechanic and we still can't figure out why. I want to just disable the system entirely but haven't heard of such a thing until your comment. I hope he comes back and says yes. lol
@@YunqTab hi Sir. this person never ever responded.... most utube people are just looking for "VIEWS" But, actually NO you cannot disconnect the valvetronic system OR disconnect the wiring plugin going to the valvetronic motor. If we/you do disconnect the wiring the car will start up fine and within a few seconds the DME will recognize there is a problem with the vehicle and the DME will surely put the vehicle in "LIMP" Mode. so there we go sir!! this is at least pertaining to my 2013 x5 35i 3.0 litre turbo ty
Next time the customer can go and pay three times the price at the other shop. He deserves it……and I hope the other shop fails to fix his issue! I think we can all assume that this customer is on Santa’s naughty list.
Thank sadel .ever perfect video's from you 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 .
Is the mechanic fault not changing the car and showing the owner what needs to be fixed
what is that scanner you used on the 435i
Hey do you do remote diagnostics?
I haven't
Looked like it was updating the DME software from version 15-11-500 to 16-11-500
Those numbers refer to the complete vehicles " I-Level" or integration level. That will contain the complete overall updates of individualized module updates that you can see those numbers in the list below next to each module as in this case the DME software number was the 8638802, which it showed no new updated part number for so it just re-writes this version into it. Hope that helps
Nice job man
Thanks!
Hey boss man I have been watching your videos with the vanos system and I have this car that is throwing a 113e01 same code you have. I have re flashed the DME to the latest program I could find on my autel 908. My part number is F001-23-07-530.I beleive I need to replace the valve tronic servo motors. Please let me know if you have the time.\
what is it you are in need of?
Interesting. Can you perform individual module updates on the f chassis cars with the autel?
yes, you most certainly can.
Hey buddy nice work. Can you send me the link to your video better explaing this process you just did with the valvetronix slash dme update. My x5m is having the same problem and i just got an xtoll d9 pro and want to try this first.... This car has been kicking my ass for other issues aswell but im getting them lol. Please help..... Thanks for all that you do to help .
which video are you asking about?
Does one need to Check for the Latest software update for the DME so as to know if that would solve the Valvetronic issue
I think one would most likely look if they experience the valvetronic code first.
Does the DME code reset also apply/work on N52s? Thx
I don't think so
hi, I had z4 with the N20 (same gen. 3 vanos system) and nothing helped to cure those exact 2 dtcs: sw update, wiring harness, vanos motor, examining oil passages, you name it - owner decided to auction the car at the end
That's crazy
@@DTEAutoit was working just fine in throttle mode :)
Code P15FB bmw 320I xdrive 2015 it sat for a month. I disconnected the battery and cleared the code it never came back on. But when I lock my doors or unlock them, i gere a loud drill noise like a bad valvtronic motor. I just dont know why I didnt get a code for a bad valvtronic motor. Anyone else experiece something similar. Is it possible my battery is bad. Some times it makes the noise after the doors have locked or randomly
Can you just run with the code if the car runs fine?
yes, I have seen that situation. It means it failed in a position where it can breathe enough
CRAXY price comes from, we charged you a diag fee, thanks, but if the problem is what we think it will be and we really do not know what we are doing or we don't want to do the job just to find out its another problem, we will give you a huge price to say thanks for our not so well earned diag fee, but you need to go someplace else to get this one fixed better than what we can do it, or give you a higher degree of assuredness, that is why shops give a CRAZY price, and the law is not going to prevent a high price estimate before the job is actually completed and deemed a rip off later.
Great work bro 🎉
Need contact with you
What computer you using
In this video I used 2 different ones, the bigger blue one is Autel IM608, the smaller orange one is Launch Creader Elite BMW
Where are you located
Ohio/DTEAuto@gmail.com
Can the launch creader elite carry out the update of the DME. Nice one sadel
I am not sure to be exact, but it is a very interesting question. I will have to see if I get another vehicle in here to be able to experiment.
You left the tank empty 😂😂😂😂..
another dis-service by me
Man this dude is bad ass my respect🫡
Bro you need to change the part is not only clear code you need to replace parts to
Why?
Did I not just show in the video that the DME was "logic locked" and it was a software issue that was rectified with programing???