5 Biggest Mistakes Beginner Bands Can Make
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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So. Found Bilmuri on Spotify. Fell in love. my new favorite band. Saw on this video that you came from attack attack. Didn’t realize. I Stick stickly’d myself all through high school. You just got a lifer.
I genuinely respect how real you are about the first impressions. I’ve heard people say the opposite and it’s ridiculous. Trying to become successful in music is no different than trying to be successful in any career. You don’t show up to a corporate interview in basketball shorts and a band shirt. Same idea. Once you make it, go ahead and maybe mix things up a bit. But image is massive at the start. Even if the response isn’t necessarily a positive one, exposure helps. Kinda like a band from the 2000s called Attack Attack that everyone hated, but got inadvertently launched into the limelight 😂 You’re the man Johnny, and so was AA
I thoroughly enjoyed the minute and a half of black screen at the end. Gave me time to think
omg im dying @bilmuri
Also, bands who don't invest in QUALITY recordings. Like you said it's about a first impression. If I turn on a song and it sounds like it was recorded in a trash can, in someone's van, I immediately get turned off by it.
Awesome man! Yeah I guess that one was assumed lol
Kevin Powell what if a band is actually really good but they haven't been recognized yet and dont have the necessary tools or a recording studio? Personally if the first song i here from a band who hasn't been recognized is recorded badly ill still listen and see what they're about cz ive heard songs that were poorly recorded but they were really amazing songs and then when the band gets signed or gets access to a real recording studio they re release the song and its not as good as the original.....thats just my opinion tho, you dont jave to agree cz youre entitled to your opinion and yes sometimes when the song is recorded poorly it kinda turns me off too but if the band is talented its still worth a listen🤘🤘
Unless you’re Animal Collective.
Dont shoot a music video in an abandoned warehouse or under a bridge, that's been done so many times already
haha too true!
Johnny Franck Productions *films stick stickly in a abandoned area*
Neff Salas drowned in sulfur nailed it
We need more basements and Quasar LEDs.
It depends on what the whole video has in it. It's ok to have scenes in warehouses, just not only that one warehouse. Cut to different scenes, maybe actors in a different plotline
THIS 100%
Very well said Johnny. So many bands can benefit from this.
Thanks man! I'm glad you guys are enjoying this
I know it's been almost 5 years since you uploaded this, but, thanks for the solid advice :D I'm starting out in a band myself and I'll do my best to follow what you said. (P.S. I totally didn't even know who you were until my girlfriend recently showed me FLOURIDEINTHEHARDSELTZERWATER) But that song is easily in my top 5 favorite songs ever and now I'm obsessed with Bilmuri and I'd recommend anyone else who might see this to check out any music Johnny's put out. (Take it from his newest fan) ;)
do mixing process! your mixes always sound great! I also want to know the frequency of your bass drop in J.A albums
I can do that! What aspect of it?
+Johnny Franck Productions haha everything honestly but mostly the eq, I want to know where you place everything, nothing ever sounds muddy or too overwhelmed with one instrument especially on the low end, also want to know what type of wave your bass drops are! i hope my question isnt too broad, thanks for the reply!! :)
@@Bilmuriband Dude I agree too, would love to see a video on your mixes! Your tracks are so clean!
Dude!! This is so important and I think it is absolutely mind blowing that most of the time these things aren't taken into consideration by new bands.
I think it would be good to make a video on investing in quality gear and quality recordings(you get what you pay for)! Also talking about having merch that people actually want to wear (design wise and garment wise)!
I think it's really cool that you are trying to help others succeed! You're the man.
Thanks for the advice Johnny. You're the man!
No problem man!!!
Bro I’m so glad I found you again
Mistake #6 not having a social media for your band. I was searching for Bilmuri on facebook after hearing on spotify and couldn't find anything. Only to find information through Johnny Franck productions. I understand you have everything through your name, but when branding your band you probably don't want to have people who like your band do sleuthing to find information out about your band. Keep up the good work!
Yeah dude , definately should do more of these kinda vids. I'm sure people are curious on what your input is on these band-ish topics, atleast i am haha.
Listening to Someday Came Suddenly tho , oh man the nostalgia hahah
What would you like me to speak on?
Like tips on getting recognition , getting the right 'contacts' , labels , maybe even writing?
Awesome video Johnny! Thanks for all your tips as always! :)
Thanks man! Let me know if you have any suggestions for other videos
Thank you for this information! My band is almost ready for our first show, I think we're pretty good and different from a lot of bands,, at least i hope so. Butt I want us and we all want to do it right this time, maybe u can hear us one day .😁🤘
please johnny please make some more videos like this. it was very insightful and helpful!
Dude 1 literally what I try to tell all my friends in bands. The vocalist usually dresses well and then the rest either where a suit or half ripped clothes and gym shorts. Image is HUGE. All their favorite band dresses all dress well or similar in some way to help them look better.
All of this is super fair and completely understandable. Nice video man.
thanks Johnny! awesome advice...
Do some videos of you in the studio working on music!!! 😁
Always shoot a video of you in full cowboy getup grinning with a thumbs up and looking like you're on the verge of tears.
Dude had amazing cleans in Atttack Attack! I wish they would reunite and have Johnny back as clean vocalist and Caleb with unclean vocals
Unclean 😂😂
@@JohnR436 never heard that before?
@@Dz-go3gu usually I hear people say “harsh vocals”. When I hear unclean I think of unclean animals in Islam & Judaism
@@JohnR436 lol the haram vocals XD true though ive heard scream vocals called lots of things over the years. ive heard metal vocalists call it "singing" which i thought was weird
Thoughtful and helpful, thanks!
Crab core for life! 🦀
Love your music dude. Just found bilmuri like 3 months ago and it's all I listen to right now. always tired and adecentcupofcoffee have to be two of my fav songs of all time. Love you bro!! Keep up the amazing work
this guy is my inspiration
Great video man! Really enjoyed it.
Glad you enjoyed man :)
Please make more videos like this and about the music industry🥺
THIS is what i wanted! Great stuff dude
thanks man! I was scared to put this video up cause it's different from what I usually do
Love your videos btw, been a fan for a long time.
I just watched a video of you talking about leaving attack attack for focus on god. I guess it's a hard walk.
very first thing I thought before I even clicked on this.
What does that even mean?
@@shootie5764 what does what mean?
If you're referring to him swearing in the video, just because he dropped a few bad words doesn't mean he's not a Christian, but if you think it does, than you have no idea what being a Christian is about.
@@AggrivatedMe you’re dumb. This was 4 years ago. Who cares.
Thx bil
of all the years I've seen Johnny on yt, I think that he became one of the most fucking dope and wise people ever.
Thanks man!
Thank you so much johnny for this video I really hope to see more in the future!
Def gonna have more!
You tell 'em, Johnny!
Also, on the lyric video stuff, I can agree with most bands. Also gonna throw back to Bilmuri again lol. Connect is what really drew me into you guys. Because it was a very interesting video with animations and the lyrics. I do enjoy the other stuff a lot, just your lyric video drew me in. But your point holds up for most bands
Yeah it's more the N64 style of lyric video that I was speaking on.
Thanks for the tips brother
johnny: “bands should be well put together & professional”
also johnny (between songs on stage): “i just wanted to tell you guys that i took the fattest shit of my life before this set, this song is absolutelycrankinmymf’inhog open up this pit”
Thank you for this video! It's good to hear from an experienced person that I'm taking my band in the right direction 👌🏻
Thanks man! What did you feel like was helpful to you? '
For me, the image. Never considered image aside from active stage presence. That is a big one, along with the artwork, even a unique font. We had an artist roadie who gave us a sick logo, but no representative logo or image. A band name with a font still isn't enough. Also, as a beginner band, dont mess around with producers. Biggest thing I came across issue wise, demo quality and studio productivity. Go into the studio with a plan, with material, don't just show up and be like "so what are we doing?" Cuz studio time will drain you, financially and physically. Don't allow it to distort your passion to make music when your on take 67 for track 1. The struggle is getting everybody on the same page from what I've experienced too. Dont let just one band mate do all the work. But yeah, I really vibe with all of what you said Johnny, I always had the issue of not moving around on stage enough and partially due to not wanting to mess up. Things for guitarists, rock out your rhythms, bang your head and coordinate those chords blindly as best you can, but present your leads like a 100 year old bottle of scotch, clean, and held high, focus the poor. The passion of a good lead lick is still a path of a good rhythm
I have a suggestion for a video, unless it's been done already by you. Make one about how a band can better themselves with live performance.
Still super helpful!
your the dude!
nice tips johnny
This is good advice.
Dope
My band is doing a soft rebranding, and these are pretty much all the same shit I've been talking about. Our first promo pics with our full line up we all wore different crap. The new ones we all wore flannel. So I guess that's a step in the right direction. 😂
A band that has amazing artwork is Before the Fall. They're not huge, but they drew me in with their beautiful artwork. Also, Bilmuri did the same for me xD
Thanks man! I try really hard to make sure my artwork is as unique as it can be.
Song name: toptenmetalfonts2016
well holy shit. This is actually good. sdubbed
When is bilmuri playing a live show????
i love you e g g d a d d y
Thank you for this! What kind of camera do you use?
Do your mixing process! I would love to see your steps
solid! I could swing that one!
Johnny, can you do more cover work?
I am trying to finish a song. Thinking of making a lyric video. When it's done, should I use footage of myself playing the parts, should I use band art I've conceptualized? I am doing this all by myself and I am a little intimidated with even putting myself out there. I wonder what will generate the most interest?
Good idea's Johnny, I thought also that beginner bands play just to loud, I believe if your good musicians you don't need to play loud at least in a smaller venue. and don't screw around on stage talking to each other, your there to entertain and play for the people. Don't keep playing with your equipment I think it should be checked before you start your set. Like you stated, you need to look together and professional. one last thing, if your going to have a singer make sure they can actually sing, not just a friend of yours that knows all the words.
I'm gonna show this to my guitarist.
I agree with most of what you said except for the part about how each member dresses/present themselves. For a pop/mainstream band, if that's what you're going for, yes personal style is important. Think of boy bands. Each member of a boy band plays a role - the bad boy, the nice one, the shy one, etc. Or like the Spice Girls, each member is a standout one-dimensional character, Posh, Sporty, Scary, etc. And each dresses the part to play those roles. It's fake AF, corny, and attention seeking. We listen to music, we don't look at it.
Rock music is typically the antithesis of such vanity. Of my most favorite bands, The Mars Volta, Rage Against The Machine, Deftones, Circa Survive, Radiohead, etc, each member pretty much dresses however they want without actively trying to present an archetype. Or trying to present themselves as what the audience would expect them to look.
That said, this is gonna sound contradictory but, I agree about album art. Album art can really draw people in. I recently got into an awesome band called Coletta because their album art was really eye catching. But that is the purpose of album art. Versus, it's not important, to me anyway, what a person chooses to wear. That is their decision and I'd rather they be comfortable in their attire and simply be themselves.
Carefully selecting album art vs. wardrobe is not the same. Music is not the corporate world unless you make it so. Musicians don't need to wear a certain outfit to be taken seriously. I think authentic bands should just be themselves and dress however they want to as individuals. Otherwise, you'd be a glam rocker - which is lame AF IMHO.
We as fans should accept band members as they are. Because unlike album art, they're sentient beings with feelings, emotions, and individual personalities. It's like friends, I don't love my friends based on how they dress. They're my friends, I don't care what they wear. I feel the same about the music I love. I don't care what the musicians look like. I care about what they sound like.✌🏽😁👍🏽
Of course I know Bilmuri likes to make satirical jokes I and my band have all decided to do the opposite of this. We were doing all the things he's joking about in this video! Boy did I feel dumb. Thanks Johnny
After being in my first band for a few years i finally left do to the fact that it wasn't enjoyable, i didnt like the style we were playing (Motionless in White, Upon This Dawning type shit) i want to be apart of something that i can truely love and feel passionate about but whats giving me trouble is how to find my sound and style of music and where to find the right people to start up a new band with, so a video about those two would be great if you could
Yeah man! I could def do a video about that!
+Johnny Franck Productions thanks dude, much appreciated! And keep up the great work btw, you're doing great things!
1. Being Attack Attack!
2. Being crabcore.
3. ATTACK ATTACK!, WHERE YOU AT?!?!!
4. 0-0-0-0-0-0-1-1-1-1-1-0-0-0
5. Scene.
I mean... I liked it. 000000001110000 haha
Set up video or tips in the studio video
Both would be cool
Editing it now :)
+Johnny Franck Productions 😍😍😍
Make sure you DO shoot your video inside some abandoned building of sorts. It would most likely be very well received and just out of the norm.
Great video, was disappointed in the lack of Halo MLG tips tho. Maybe next time....
Even an abandoned building is better than a lyric video IMO. "How to get HEADSHOTS Everitiem"
Son muy ciertos esos puntos , gracias we
pog
do a video about how to find your own sound and not sounding generic
So Johnny, im confused ! I know you left AA because you wanted to make sure you were focusing on your walk with the Lord. So im guessing by the lyrics in some of your recents songs your not really walking that walk anymore ?
Chris Oakley Dear brother in Christ, I understand where you're coming from in your comment. If he and others like him fall away somehow from their walk with Christ, all we can really do out of the same love that Christ gave us is to pray for them to get back on their walk. Our father is always welcoming, loving, and forgiving through thick and thin no matter what.
4 happened to me and my band. A dude in a decent sized band offered to manage my band for a monthly fee and stupidly we signed a contract and he did fuck all for us. Biggest regret of my music career. If I could go back I would not do it.
Yeah dude, so many bands fall into that shit!
+Johnny Franck Productions yeah it's absolute shit. Now I see friends in bands looking for a manager and I tell them not to and explain why, and it's really a 50/50 on who takes my advice. I feel bad for the ones who don't because I know they'll fall down the same path.
>people get to know what you look like and it doesn't look like a shitty N64 game
well my favourite bilmuri song sure got the treatment it deserved /watch?v=jmsugXRRiHc
Naming your band BIll Murray.
Yeah if you were smart, you would name it Bilmuri so it's automatically the first thing that comes up on google search :)
+Johnny Franck Productions I really need your help man.. can you message me somehow
From the dude that doesn't give an f, first agenda on the table is 'image'....dude....
Benefit of the doubt 🖐️🛑💔
thanks JK :)
play your asses off. don't snub your nose at a gig because you think the venue is too small, dont like house shows, or any other lame reason. Play, play, PLAY. It will be noticed, and if people dig your stuff, more will come by word of mouth, find you online, spread your music. Get to it!
The image point just shows how commercial the hardcore scene has become.
And don’t dont ever be in a band that has the same hair and has the crab stance while playing
Another mistake : shooting a lot of same music videos =)
Think about it.
I didn't enjoy this video
Wearing a paper bag??? Tf?? 😂😂😂 ive never seen a band come out and its memebers were wearing paper bags but yea that would deff be a "mistake" 😂😂