How to use a Longsword | Shad's HEMA philosophy

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  • In this video I go through the basics of using a two handed sword with the Game Knights and also share my HEMA philosophy.
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  • @grailknight6794
    @grailknight6794 3 года назад +786

    Nice Shad! I love hema, and i focus myself on one handed swords, rapier,sabre,broadsword and arming sword throw in shields in there aswell, and i think Shad you are still doing hema!!, i know you kinda shy away from saying your an expert or whatever but this is hema, everyone in hema does some bit of "making stuff up" as long as it reliably works in sparring and competition it is good, and it still is part of hema, but note must be taken to the original sources not to just be a complete frame by frame copy, but more as to guide you in direction you need to move. Now if we had video footage of the famous fencing master Fiore dei Liberi for example he wouldnt look every frame exacty the same as his books... but the tendency of his style would shine through, so reading original sources and learning from other hema instructors shouldnt be as to copy them in every single way but to first learn the basic techniques and the general idea of the given art, and then you will always come up with your own variations of said art. This is how all martial arts work not just hema.

    • @trentweston8306
      @trentweston8306 3 года назад +1

      Would you have any suggestions for a good place to buy a baskethilt Broadsword?

    • @grailknight6794
      @grailknight6794 3 года назад +1

      @@trentweston8306 sharp or for practice? The rawlings synthetic isnt bad for practice, i think most people though get custom broadswords... i hear the hanwei sharp one isnt that bad either, again most high end broadswords seem to be custom made...jesse belskey is a good baskehilt maker.

    • @snimmo
      @snimmo 3 года назад +2

      @@trentweston8306 Depends on what purpose do want to use it for?
      e.g. The ArmorClass does an excellent for training I would suggest Armour Class Dragoon Sword with a Feder Blade. This was first thought up by Stephen Hand of Stoccata and Jay Maas of Manitoba Broadsword Academy asked for further changes but I have only used the first gen and it is beautiful to use.

    • @trentweston8306
      @trentweston8306 3 года назад +1

      @@grailknight6794 Thank you, I'd rather a sharp one to me it feels more special that way. Hanwei and Jesse Belskey. I've looked at Hanwei but not Jesse.

    • @trentweston8306
      @trentweston8306 3 года назад

      @@snimmo Purpose would mostly be to start a new collection and for some solo practice. Illyrian gave me a good place to look.

  • @creativehorse7907
    @creativehorse7907 3 года назад +1523

    Dab is actaully a highly misunderstood and powerful technique. It repels everyone around you with cringe power alone

    • @Wintermute909
      @Wintermute909 3 года назад +80

      "easy to learn, impossible to master"

    • @nybergsgarage
      @nybergsgarage 3 года назад +53

      Joe Biden does the same thing just by standing there...

    • @h1r086
      @h1r086 3 года назад +36

      @@nybergsgarage You might say he's a dab hand at repelling.

    • @Skyisgoingbacktopluto
      @Skyisgoingbacktopluto 3 года назад +7

      That horrible floss at the end and my sleep deprivation formed in me a horrifying realization, I still remember how to floss. My neck tensed up with that.

    • @tommeakin1732
      @tommeakin1732 3 года назад +12

      And people say magic doesn't exist

  • @silver-ag4437
    @silver-ag4437 3 года назад +842

    "Dabbing, contrary to belief, was not a move that humiliated your opponent, rather it was an action of great shame, and would bring dishonor to your family for generations, the word described of such an action is, "cringe"

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 3 года назад +6

      Don't talk to me! I am famous! Don't dislike my good good GOOD videos! Don't talk to me, dear sil

    • @KorporalNoobs
      @KorporalNoobs 3 года назад +35

      Cringe sounds like it could be a pike like weapon.

    • @robjones535
      @robjones535 3 года назад +3

      We need to keep these two comments together.

    • @shadowsnake5133
      @shadowsnake5133 3 года назад +9

      @@KorporalNoobs damnit, I know what I'm calling my pike in video games now.

    • @brunozeigerts6379
      @brunozeigerts6379 3 года назад

      @@KorporalNoobs Or a heavy metal group?

  • @masonwheeler6536
    @masonwheeler6536 3 года назад +319

    8:16: "I don't care about the name! I like the move."
    Knowing the name is useful so that you can refer to it efficiently. If you can say "dragon's claw strike" instead of "you know, that move where you slash from a high stance downward while holding the blade angled like [holds hand in a certain alignment] this," it makes it a lot easier to discuss.

    • @michaelguenot6177
      @michaelguenot6177 3 года назад +52

      Yup, that’s really the purpose of any jargon. Ease of communication of complex concepts.

    • @devinm.6149
      @devinm.6149 3 года назад +26

      It would be cool if there was a HEMA card game with the guards' names, with illustrations obviously.

    • @christopherkecun8349
      @christopherkecun8349 3 года назад +9

      @@devinm.6149 would love to see a whole deck with thrusts, advances, retreats and counters to visually game out an encounter.

    • @Scuzzlebutt142
      @Scuzzlebutt142 3 года назад +7

      @@devinm.6149 There is, by Guy Windsor, one of the more prolific authors about Fiore. audatiagame.com/

    • @5ilver42
      @5ilver42 3 года назад +7

      This is a good example of the problem I have in most things I am self taught in. Because I was self taught, I never needed to know words, I just incorporated the actions at a different level of cognition. This of course means however that I am completely incapable of talking to anyone about it, and can only prove my mastery of skills through demonstration.
      It's really annoying, because I can't market the skills I am self taught without having to relearn it all over again with the jargon. It's quite frustrating. Even more so because I understand the problem. lmao.
      HEMA is one area where I don't have this problem though. I'm just not good with remembering German words.

  • @Hayden-vf1ss
    @Hayden-vf1ss 3 года назад +296

    These are the Shadlands, not the Dablands, dammit!

    • @acatwithafancyhat5782
      @acatwithafancyhat5782 3 года назад +6

      Damn you.
      Take my like and leave.!

    • @Hayden-vf1ss
      @Hayden-vf1ss 3 года назад +2

      @@acatwithafancyhat5782 Thank you, Cat in the Fancy Hat

  • @TheAutistWhisperer
    @TheAutistWhisperer 3 года назад +731

    "Yes. The pointy end goes into the other man." - "Alejandro Murrieta

    • @JDB1878
      @JDB1878 3 года назад +18

      Lol one of my favorite sword based movie quotes

    • @felipeignacioavilapizarro3698
      @felipeignacioavilapizarro3698 3 года назад +30

      "This is going to take a lot of work"

    • @jmoneyjoshkinion4576
      @jmoneyjoshkinion4576 3 года назад +4

      Both of these quotes are in "The Mask of Zorro" 1998, by Anthony Hopkins, and Antonio Banderas (I think respectively). My question is witch movie are you quoting from?

    • @jmoneyjoshkinion4576
      @jmoneyjoshkinion4576 3 года назад +1

      @@aggromemnon335 ok thank you, I didn't know which one was which.

    • @dave14647
      @dave14647 3 года назад +1

      The Legend has return

  • @andyb1653
    @andyb1653 3 года назад +294

    We're only 11 seconds in and Shad's already yeeted a longsword at someone
    This is gonna be good

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 3 года назад +360

    Shad to their Squires: "Did they send me daughters when I asked for sons?! You're the saddest bunch I ever met
    , But you can bet before we're through... Mister, I'll make a man out of you"

    • @deaconvelos8352
      @deaconvelos8352 3 года назад +10

      It was difficult but I read that in Shad's voice!

    • @deaconvelos8352
      @deaconvelos8352 3 года назад +13

      Also,
      Shad's squires: I'm never gonna catch my breath!
      Say goodbye to those who knew me. Boy was I a fool in school for cutting gym!

    • @vanderwallstronghold8905
      @vanderwallstronghold8905 3 года назад +1

      @@deaconvelos8352 I sang that in Shad's voice

    • @Nerobyrne
      @Nerobyrne 3 года назад +6

      this somehow NEVER GETS OLD and I'm genuinely impressed.
      What's hilarious is that the same movie studio made one of the best movies and one of the worst, both with the same name ^.^
      Truly this shows us the duality of man.

    • @Wildwestwrangler
      @Wildwestwrangler 2 года назад +1

      Makes it sound like he's gonna take their virginity!!!

  • @shadfacts6465
    @shadfacts6465 3 года назад +631

    Shad Fact: Shad has an at will fear aura that can cause Ancient Dragons to have heart attacks when they are within 500 yards/meters of him

    • @akramgimmini8165
      @akramgimmini8165 3 года назад +51

      He's the only reason there aren't Dragons in Australia

    • @Wintermute909
      @Wintermute909 3 года назад +10

      Welp I guess I can't disprove that....... Unless......
      #changemymind?

    • @Santisima_Trinidad
      @Santisima_Trinidad 3 года назад +13

      Is it 500 yards or 500 meters? Theres a difference of, like, 50 fathoms.

    • @Wintermute909
      @Wintermute909 3 года назад +3

      @@Santisima_Trinidad it's "metre" you apostate!!!

    • @franktheprank7336
      @franktheprank7336 3 года назад +16

      @@Santisima_Trinidad It depends on if the dragon's american or european(?

  • @rockyhorrorfreakshow5091
    @rockyhorrorfreakshow5091 3 года назад +409

    "The art of dabbing was commonly used throughout the 15th century as a way of completely memeing on your opponent.
    It proved quite effective in absolutely destroying your adversary without even swinging your sword, and hence, it was only usable by only the greatest of swordsmen."

    • @samnope7344
      @samnope7344 3 года назад +19

      I think you forgot to credit the creation of this technique.
      As far as we know, it was created by the Great Wizard, know as Oz

    • @someguy198
      @someguy198 3 года назад +17

      - Sun Tzu

    • @samnope7344
      @samnope7344 3 года назад +14

      @@akshaj7011
      2514 museum tour guide:
      "Our historians have recently encountered this controversial text. It has caused great disagreement between those who appreciate the historical details provided by the account, and other scholars, who claim it was part of an early 21st century cultural practice, known as Me-Ming"

    • @ryngobrody1627
      @ryngobrody1627 3 года назад +9

      "Raise the inside of your elbow to your face, raise the other hand to your side and pointing up, and face your opponent, to meme him rightly!"

    • @chriscuit4345
      @chriscuit4345 3 года назад

      Effective*

  • @emperorbulby3761
    @emperorbulby3761 3 года назад +55

    Welcome to "Shad beats up his employees in the middle of the wilderness while criticizing their every move."

  • @FedericoMalagutti
    @FedericoMalagutti 3 года назад +485

    Nice! To be honest I don’t find any problem when bigger RUclipsrs go for this kind of videos, I think HEMA can only greatly benefit from this.
    I think you also did pretty well in many occasions (in terms of passing informations) considering the limitations of the training equipment.
    If you don’t mind I would only point out that one of the best things to decrease doubles and build up a solid system of practice is to go for Parry and Riposte before moving toward same tempo actions, which need a very high level of skill to land cleanly!
    Nice video!

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  3 года назад +119

      Thanks heaps Federico, love your HEMA videos, and I really appreciate the advice.

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti 3 года назад +38

      @@shadiversity you are welcome!! :D

    • @Trollvolk
      @Trollvolk 3 года назад +6

      Nice to see you here man :)
      Love your channel.

    • @cobbwebster
      @cobbwebster 3 года назад +9

      Shad: what's a repost or parry? Tempo action? What's that? What are these terms you speak of???
      .
      😂😂😂😅

    • @wildoo9870
      @wildoo9870 3 года назад +4

      @@shadiversity Another useful thing to keep in mind is that the most effective way to teach (and learn for that matter) is to start *slow* .

  • @kcrash7150
    @kcrash7150 3 года назад +135

    If Shad opened up is own HEMA club where he taught id probably move over to Vic

    • @stanisawzokiewski3308
      @stanisawzokiewski3308 3 года назад +9

      I'd move to Australia (from europe that is)

    • @Boomtron-jv9uv
      @Boomtron-jv9uv 3 года назад +3

      @@stanisawzokiewski3308 I was going to make that joke! Meany!

    • @Wintermute909
      @Wintermute909 3 года назад +2

      Huh? I thought that *was* the only constitutional difference between States & Territory

    • @chriscuit4345
      @chriscuit4345 3 года назад +1

      @@Wintermute909 what

    • @Wintermute909
      @Wintermute909 3 года назад +2

      @@chriscuit4345 I might be a little fuzzy on it, but I'm pretty sure that in Aussie-land it's not a constitutionally recognized State unless Shad is teaching HEMA in it.

  • @JTeam45
    @JTeam45 3 года назад +38

    "Dabbing is forbidden in the Shadlands." By decree of Lord Shad.

  • @darrenskjoelsvold
    @darrenskjoelsvold 3 года назад +84

    I was just thinking "they should be wearing headgear" and then Shad hits him in the ear.
    RUclips get out of my head! But seriously wear headgear.

    • @David-nq8cv
      @David-nq8cv 3 года назад +7

      Oh definitely, and footwork

  • @anderswallin3883
    @anderswallin3883 3 года назад +72

    I just wanted you to know that i just finished Shadow of the Conqueror and i ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT! I do hope that you write a sequel

    • @minedantaken1684
      @minedantaken1684 3 года назад +1

      Shad pinning this comment is one of the most unique ad's I've ever seen

    • @anderswallin3883
      @anderswallin3883 3 года назад +1

      @@minedantaken1684 I thought that he might not even see it. But i am happy that he did! :D

    • @minedantaken1684
      @minedantaken1684 3 года назад

      @@anderswallin3883 and now it's not pinned anymore

    • @anderswallin3883
      @anderswallin3883 3 года назад

      @@minedantaken1684 I know, but atleast he saw my comment and that is what i wanted :)

  • @eggy6815
    @eggy6815 3 года назад +173

    Shad: there’s no clubs that practice swordsmanship in my area!
    Also Shad: fine, I’ll do it myself...

    • @biggidousthethird2672
      @biggidousthethird2672 3 года назад +4

      There's no people in his area, let alone clubs of any kind.

    • @Enyavar1
      @Enyavar1 3 года назад +8

      @@biggidousthethird2672 but clubs are easily fashioned out of simple pieces of wood!

    • @biggidousthethird2672
      @biggidousthethird2672 3 года назад +8

      @@Enyavar1 excellent point, the shadlands do have copious wood

    • @snimmo
      @snimmo 3 года назад +2

      Is is actually how many HEMA schools started, in his home state of Victoria there are at least five schools that were started under that very issue. One of those schools encouraged others to start schools, who then encouraged their own to do so as well, we now have fourth generation schools in Melbourne right now.

    • @TheChromeRonin
      @TheChromeRonin 3 года назад +1

      @@snimmo Our own school in Wellington, New Zealand was started for the same reason. Our instructor wanted someone to fight with, so he decided he would have to train them himself 8)

  • @khager2846
    @khager2846 3 года назад +146

    1st thing: Guys, get some fencing masks. Head is usually the primary target for attacks, so it will be beneficial when you won't need to worry about not hitting your sparring-partner in the head too hard. Actually, scratch that - first, get jockstraps, then masks, and then maybe some gloves.
    2ndly, personally, I'd use a more systhematic approach, because now You are giving pieces of knowledge that aren't rooted into basics. What I mean by that is, before You show how to disengage and cut on the other side when the opponent overswings, You may want to show how to make a good cut in the first place. Let youself be hit a few times with a specific cut, to make sure the attack is well prformed, and then show how to deal with this kind of attack. Even before this, start with more basic basics, as stepping forward, stepping backward, maintaining distance - you may stand in place when practising specific techniques, but don't be static when you sparr. The one who moves, alive is. Last of basics: how to perform an attack when Your right foot is forward, and how to do int with left foot forward - what hands do, what legs do, what rest of the body does.
    3rd thing: Keeping my fingers crossed for Shad HEMA club to work out :)

    • @jkgf4671
      @jkgf4671 3 года назад +12

      Not to mention possibility of poking someone's eye

    • @Scuzzlebutt142
      @Scuzzlebutt142 3 года назад +9

      I kept saying that as I watched, "you haven't taught him the basics that he can build on before you can spar". You need to know how to step, basic cuts and how to properly execute them, and basic guards as they give you the framework to build and hang information off.

    • @SurmaSampo
      @SurmaSampo 3 года назад +4

      The guards in HEMA systems are so important as most of your cuts, blocks and parries are the transition from one guard to another.

    • @patrickdusablon2789
      @patrickdusablon2789 3 года назад +4

      I agree. The lack of masks is begging to get one's eyes blackened, or plain out removed.
      As for what passes for a pedagogy here? There is a dreadful lack of anything resembling a sensical training approach; crawl, walk, run. It works for post-secondary education, the military, and historical fencing.

    • @machinaanguis4998
      @machinaanguis4998 3 года назад +1

      Yes fencing masks, he should also also get paper towels to protect their arms and shins...

  • @michaelguenot6177
    @michaelguenot6177 3 года назад +302

    Shad opens his own HEMA school. What’s a good name?
    It’s Shad’s... University...
    mmh... there’s something there it’s on the tip of my tongue...

    • @A._Person
      @A._Person 3 года назад +52

      Shadicollegey!

    • @michaelguernsey1206
      @michaelguernsey1206 3 года назад +32

      Shadiscool of swordiversity

    • @hoodlum4511
      @hoodlum4511 3 года назад +23

      ShadHEMA School of the Conquerers

    • @TheChrisSig
      @TheChrisSig 3 года назад +36

      Sir Shadleigh's No-Dabby Stabby-Wabby Machicolation Station

    • @jocosesonata
      @jocosesonata 3 года назад +24

      I don't know, man, it just does not roll off the tongue that well.
      Wait! What if we combine it!?
      *_UNISHADITY!_*

  • @Redfox0928
    @Redfox0928 3 года назад +49

    The squire used the move known as "dabbing" and the swordmaster punished him, for he thought the archaic technique "cringe". But the squire only laughed, as he knew it was "kek".

    • @inquisitionagent9052
      @inquisitionagent9052 10 месяцев назад +1

      "And I must say that everything I have witnessed has been *CRINGE* . It was *CRINGE* father. It was noy *kek* "- Primarch Rogal Dorn, Pretorian of Terra

  • @adambriton5394
    @adambriton5394 3 года назад +61

    Look at shad teaching the next generation of heroes in sword play

  • @amatthew1231
    @amatthew1231 3 года назад +171

    Bought lots of land
    Is building castles
    Is looking for instructors
    Is starting a "club"
    I think Shad is founding a fucking kingdom.

    • @lazulenoc6863
      @lazulenoc6863 3 года назад +11

      He'll be king of Australia!

    • @userJanus3003
      @userJanus3003 3 года назад +20

      Next he'll announce that he's betrothed his children to rich people in foreign lands.

    • @linzenzraiwn2354
      @linzenzraiwn2354 3 года назад +5

      is he in need for any peasants🙋🏽‍♂️?

    • @sebastianb.3978
      @sebastianb.3978 Год назад

      @@userJanus3003 I think Lady Shad would have something to say about that xD

  • @sdstarr01
    @sdstarr01 3 года назад +82

    The lowest bar to entry is a girth-y STICK, of corse.

  • @NaitomeIya
    @NaitomeIya 3 года назад +29

    Shad: overswinging
    Me, a gamer: Ah yes, the strong but slow combo finisher moves that I keep spamming by accident which usually leaves me open to damage and leads me to a game over.

  • @corvisian4267
    @corvisian4267 3 года назад +79

    my number one rule of sparring is: "stick him with the pointy end"

  • @mariomanno1
    @mariomanno1 3 года назад +32

    I’d love to see these guys every so often to see how they grow as swordsmen and watch their progression. I’ve never actually taken part in sword fights or anything but its very entertaining and looks very fun.

  • @scribblingjoe
    @scribblingjoe 3 года назад +97

    I don't hate you. You're actually my favorite of the medieval history youtubers. I do have a small bit of criticism to offer. I would like to suggest safety glasses. I realize that hardly anyone wears them when using foam swords, and many people might criticize me for even suggesting it, but getting hit in the eye with a foam sword still hurts (I know from experience). Just, you know, safety first.

    • @thijmstickman8349
      @thijmstickman8349 3 года назад +11

      Or like masks if we want to make it look cooler

    • @KnightrideThrillz
      @KnightrideThrillz Год назад +3

      I’ve been stabbed in the face twice while participating in my school’s LARP club and you start to get used to it and you kinda just walk it off

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner Год назад

      @@KnightrideThrillz face or eye?

    • @KnightrideThrillz
      @KnightrideThrillz Год назад

      @@Likexner both

  • @Broockle
    @Broockle 3 года назад +39

    trading blows against armor must be a calculated gamble everytime

    • @AVGyerra22
      @AVGyerra22 3 года назад +8

      Don't worry, the armor isn't gonna move unless someone's wearing it

    • @Broockle
      @Broockle 3 года назад +5

      @@AVGyerra22 lol, I meant like you see someone striking your side but you trust your armor will keep you safe.
      So you go for a killing blow as a trade. That's the gamble.

  • @sionefinaulahi4640
    @sionefinaulahi4640 3 года назад +65

    “One deserves to be ended rightly for dabbing in duel.”
    - Fiore

    • @postacorona6746
      @postacorona6746 3 года назад +6

      Honestly, if someone went back in time and told Fiore about dabbing I wouldn’t be surprised if this was his response

    • @sionefinaulahi4640
      @sionefinaulahi4640 3 года назад +1

      @@postacorona6746 I wish it were so

    • @themodernmusketeer877
      @themodernmusketeer877 3 года назад +2

      I think Morrozzo said something like that as well

    • @JesperoTV
      @JesperoTV 3 года назад +4

      *unscrews pommel *

    • @Rednecknerd_rob9634
      @Rednecknerd_rob9634 Год назад

      "“One deserves to be ended rightly for dabbing in duel.”
      - Fiore
      By dragon fire?

  • @estaticethan1752
    @estaticethan1752 3 года назад +39

    Remember when Shad tried to Teach a Mega Noob (Jazza, his brother) to fight with swords?

    • @Sparrowcus1
      @Sparrowcus1 3 года назад +14

      When the title "Drawing Swords with my brother" would fit perfectly to both channel's themes

    • @sebastianb.3978
      @sebastianb.3978 Год назад

      @@Sparrowcus1 one got a lot more ouchie potential than the other xD

  • @m4tr1xx7
    @m4tr1xx7 3 года назад +10

    I want this as a subject in school and shad as my teacher NOW.

  • @KageRyuu6
    @KageRyuu6 3 года назад +33

    Yep, basic "play" philosophy, if someone can't win at least 1/6 times, they start getting discouraged and eventually give up, so building confidence is essential to growing a hobby.

    • @jooot_6850
      @jooot_6850 3 года назад +1

      That's why me and my mates usually just attempt to hit and counter each other without keeping much score, because there's no point to keeping score we just want to get the techniques down

    • @ilovejettrooper5922
      @ilovejettrooper5922 3 года назад +1

      I'm a bit pedantic, so I'll just chime in that it's closer to 30% of the time, from what I hear ;)

  • @colenelvogel7001
    @colenelvogel7001 3 года назад +101

    Guard might get nervous, if a man approaches with his weapon drawn

    • @dune_strider3055
      @dune_strider3055 3 года назад +8

      Don’t like those eyes you’ve got, there’s a bad hunger to them…

    • @chriscuit4345
      @chriscuit4345 3 года назад +5

      Let me guess, someone stole your sweet roll?

    • @lazulenoc6863
      @lazulenoc6863 3 года назад +4

      Aye, now that there's a beautiful sword. Like a sliver of midnight.

    • @sebastianriz4703
      @sebastianriz4703 3 года назад +5

      So you can cast a few spells. Am I supposed to be impressed?

    • @deaconvelos8352
      @deaconvelos8352 3 года назад +5

      Think you can enchant my sword? Dull old blade can barely cut butter

  • @smwad7103
    @smwad7103 3 года назад +13

    Shads response to that dab is the only appropriate response to dabbing

  • @Fliegenpilzkonsument
    @Fliegenpilzkonsument 3 года назад +9

    Hey Shad! You're one of the people who caused me to start practicing HEMA myself and I just wanted to express my gratitude for the awesome, greatly inspirational content that you've been producing on this channel. Keep it up!

  • @johnstuartkeller5244
    @johnstuartkeller5244 3 года назад +21

    From studying George Silver in particular (but by no means only him,) I understand that one does not, in fact, win a sword fight by sticking the pointy end into the other man. One wins a sword fight by ending the day with the same number of holes in one's body as one began the day.
    Paid for piercings notwithstanding.

  • @justanotherfool8896
    @justanotherfool8896 3 года назад +82

    Simple answer: Dont, Ringed knight straight sword for recovery cancels and gotthard for everything else

    • @8names311
      @8names311 3 года назад +17

      Ah, a unkindled one

    • @Divinemakyr
      @Divinemakyr 3 года назад +9

      Claymore beats both.

    • @justanotherfool8896
      @justanotherfool8896 3 года назад +5

      @@Divinemakyr you cannot whiff punish rkss cancel
      Only good counter against ss are estoc, pkcs and harpe/murky

    • @royalsoldierofdrangleic4577
      @royalsoldierofdrangleic4577 3 года назад +5

      *R E D I R O N T W I N B L A D E* (for Dark Souls II)
      *Z W E I H A N D E R* (for Dark Souls I)

    • @Divinemakyr
      @Divinemakyr 3 года назад +2

      @@justanotherfool8896 Idk, I mastered the art of roll catching with the claymore and I usually beat everyone I fight against. I mean, I'm kinda bad, to be honest, except with the claymore. That's like my only weapon, lmao.

  • @rikremmerswaal2756
    @rikremmerswaal2756 3 года назад +382

    Shad, as a starting instructor, I see a potential pitfall with your stance on names: Communication. For the longest time I was very much of the same mind as you when it came to the names of different strikes and guards. I did not care too much about what they were called as long as I could learn the techniques and commit them to memory and as long as you are just a student you can get away with that. No problem.
    Afterall, names are meaningless in a fight. As long as I know what I want to do things will be alright. In a fight I am certainly not going to talk about what I plan to do to my opponent, that information I try to keep to myself as much as possible. If you are just practicing you don’t need much of a vocabulary. Same goes when you are teaching one other person. In personal lessons there is a lot of time to correct the one student and point things out.
    However, that all changed when I stated to instruct. All of a sudden, my mental catalogue of nameless but applicable techniques became a gigantic nuisance in instructing. There is a point were talking about “this” move and then “that movement” is just not sufficient to properly convey what you are trying to say. It was a lot more efficient to be able to say something along the lines of “we are looking at ways to counter a Passade.” Instead of “we are going to take a look at a technique that you can use when your opponent makes a lunge at you and then follows that lunge up by taking a step forward with his left foot to get closer to you and prevent you from retreating.” (I teach rapier, not longsword.)
    My point here is simply that a naming scheme is useful. One word can encapsule a complete technique, making it a lot easier to talk about movement, stance and counters. All in all, it is just a lot more efficient to have a vocabulary that enables you to express yourself better and to make sure everyone is thinking of the same thing at the same time.
    Not to say that you cannot teach fencing without a naming scheme but just be aware that if you don’t have a set of “code words” teaching bigger groups will be more difficult and it opens up a Pandora’s box of possibilities for miscommunication.

    • @devinm.6149
      @devinm.6149 3 года назад +33

      I think there should be a HEMA card game with the guards' names & illustrations.
      I think it would be helpful for learning the names.

    • @Enyavar1
      @Enyavar1 3 года назад +11

      That was my immediate thought at that point in the vid ad well, and I never trained fighting in my life.
      Having fancy names likev"Strike of the claw of the dying swan" is stupid of course. Shouting your technique during combat is worse, only for goofy role players and manga card games.
      But at least knowing short practical names for each technique is necessary for teaching the movements. Same goes in strategy: "pincer maneuver" or "troyan horse" are two words and makes detail descriptions unnecessary.
      Only bad thing is that it's all swordbabble to outsiders.

    • @Uhthis
      @Uhthis 3 года назад +2

      That actually makes huge amount of sense, huh. Fair enough!

    • @ostrowulf
      @ostrowulf 3 года назад +7

      Not a HEMA guy, but some one who has had to instruct other things, and taken various kinds of fighting training, as the practitioner/student names are what ever. When instructing things... or trying to reaserch them later for more info and context, names are rather useful.

    • @snimmo
      @snimmo 3 года назад +3

      @@devinm.6149 There is one Auditia was created by Guy Windsor many years ago, it covers concepts of Armizare . audatiagame.com/

  • @wokenlunatic2849
    @wokenlunatic2849 3 года назад +64

    “I messed my skirt and my red and blue Robin Hooddie clothes”
    Me: more like a jester clothes

    • @David-nq8cv
      @David-nq8cv 3 года назад +2

      Well knowing your opponent is only half the battle

  • @christianstorms3950
    @christianstorms3950 3 года назад +15

    I see so Shad is training his guard before building his castle(s). Fear the wrath of the wise man.
    Be prepared for Shad's dabbing madlads...

  • @chillaxin65
    @chillaxin65 3 года назад +5

    It’s one thing to understand a subject. It’s entirely another to teach another person your understanding of that subject in such a way that it becomes THEIR understanding. Good on ya for taking that step!

  • @hawkknight4564
    @hawkknight4564 3 года назад +10

    There is a vast difference. Between being a swordsman. And training one. God bless.

  • @carolineprenoveau7655
    @carolineprenoveau7655 3 года назад +16

    You seem like a good teacher. You're encouraging, pointing out what they did right, explaining what happened, say "try again", and making it fun. That's what good teachers do :)

  • @danredacted4630
    @danredacted4630 3 года назад +8

    Loved it; It’d be fun to have like a monthly ”seminar” where we get to see the knights progress in duels! (If they’d like to continue that is)

  • @cicconiusti5784
    @cicconiusti5784 3 года назад +5

    I love seeing the joy in everyone's face as they spar, so wholesome.

  • @gordyrroy
    @gordyrroy 3 года назад +10

    "You dabbed, get out of here" a legendary moment.

  • @afinoxi
    @afinoxi 3 года назад +57

    "The dab is a mythic technique known to be only useable by the greatest of swordsmans from the ancient tales."
    -Dark Souls loading screen

  • @IAmTheAce5
    @IAmTheAce5 3 года назад +7

    "teach them honor, that is ransom enough"
    *proceeds kicking asses

  • @suzakuxero6162
    @suzakuxero6162 3 года назад +13

    I think Ben should take more advantage of his size when he is going on the offense and try for more distance on the defense.

  • @8-bitsarda747
    @8-bitsarda747 3 года назад +7

    you should make this a monthly or semi-monthly thing, where you pick up with your squires, teach them new things, watch them humiliate themselves, and then send them back to practice

  • @trinwheeler4639
    @trinwheeler4639 3 года назад +3

    Knowing the terminology makes it far easier when teaching larger groups because you can call out a guard, stance, or cut and they'll do it. It also makes it easier for analysis because you can say "they made an unterhau from Vomtag into ochs and thrusted into the opening on the chest" instead of "you went here here and here"

  • @rickysmith6041
    @rickysmith6041 3 года назад +7

    lol Shad is absolutely loving being the best swordfighter out of that group, don't lie he loves it :) he reminds me of a child who's really good at pool or some other game and wants to school all his friends on their playdate by "teaching" them

  • @riesenfliegefly7139
    @riesenfliegefly7139 3 года назад +6

    This released literally in the minute I became a patreon :D

  • @trenthobson2756
    @trenthobson2756 3 года назад +8

    I've been training at my local fencing academy in historical fencing and broadsword fighting for over 8 years now. My biggest piece of advice for you, Shad, is to teach your knights to really get down the parries. In a real life or death fight, your too priority is to not get hit, and only attack when you know you're safe. A lot of people in sport these days fight simply to see who can hit first, regardless of if you will still take a blow yourself immediately after landing your attack. I personally think it would be very beneficial if you guys tried to fight to protect yourself above all else rather than to race to the first hit. I know that when I made that switch in my own fighting, I improved quite a bit.
    I get it, that the main thing for some people is to have fun, and that's all cool, I just figured I would offer some advice since you guys seem to be training to improve. Wish y'all the best of luck.

    • @danieldionne9709
      @danieldionne9709 3 года назад +2

      Totally agree. I tell newbies to swordsmanship, hitting is easy. Not getting hit is hard. And hitting while not getting hit is the gold standard!

    • @lanequick7451
      @lanequick7451 3 года назад +2

      Yep. When a threat is presented, you have to deal with it no matter what it is. There is a kind of defense in attacking, at least while the attack is headed towards the other guy, in that the other guy has to deal with whats about to happen before thinking about hitting you. Yeah, that sometimes means recognizing a feint and going for the split second opening, but I'd say on balance its usually a direct attack you're dealing with and you'll need to void or parry. I like Shad a lot but this stuff looks more like sports HEMA than the intended application of many HEMA traditions: dueling to maim and disable with sharp swords. Dont get me wrong: I love sports HEMA, but I feel like Shad would gravitate more to the context in which this stuff was developed, not the state of it today.

  • @JessZomb
    @JessZomb 3 года назад +5

    Oz, ironically enough, was doing some fencing (Italian rapier for more accuracy) forms. The off hand should be held around head hit to swat away the opponent's blade. His dab was close to that!

  • @nikobellic4203
    @nikobellic4203 3 года назад +5

    Shad makes these things look like so much fun and entertaining thing to experience, I would love to try this out someday if I ever get a chance

  • @zyts6097
    @zyts6097 3 года назад +3

    I've been waiting for this for sooooo long! So please! Do continue these!
    I've wanted to learn swordman ship for a long time but I have never been quite sure where to start. Watching this video really helped and I would really appreciate if you continued them ☺️

  • @benjaminmcclelland2464
    @benjaminmcclelland2464 3 года назад +3

    I'm going to an intro to longsword class tonight. My favorite hobby by far.

  • @shilohmonroe-donovan
    @shilohmonroe-donovan 3 года назад +1

    Someone recommended this channel to me specifically because I’m doing research for a historical fantasy story I’m working on about Robin Hood. I want to thank you for this channel

  • @justcallmeJon
    @justcallmeJon 3 года назад +2

    This was a really informative video and it's so great to see your passion for the art and teaching coming out here! Would love more videos like this!

  • @phillipgraf4856
    @phillipgraf4856 3 года назад +43

    "When I was younger, it was every night before bed." Brilliant.

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord 3 года назад +4

      TIL Oz doesn't know a sword from a roundel dagger.

  • @niguriani
    @niguriani 3 года назад +31

    Shad. Ignore the those haters. Easy for me to say, I know. You want to read comments and engage with your audience, so you inevitably come across the haters. I get it. But please, just ignore them. Like you said, they're just sad and don't have anything better to do in life.

  • @crazysnake1096
    @crazysnake1096 3 года назад +2

    I love these vids. Also love that the rest of the crew get in on the action.

  • @EJdelGato
    @EJdelGato 3 года назад +2

    I want more of this!!! Great work Shad and the knights!

  • @jayturner6570
    @jayturner6570 3 года назад +4

    I have to say, I love Oz. His one/two liners always hit.

  • @Kishandreth
    @Kishandreth 3 года назад +38

    Footwork, footwork, footwork! Ben was the only one that initially used his feet as part of the sparring. Stepping into strikes, or stepping away from an opponents strike and then stepping back in for your own strike can go a long way. While Ben may have had more practice, what really put him above the rest was moving around.
    A side note: sparring in armor would be beneficial in two ways. First you learn were the weaknesses in your armor are, and second you can use that knowledge to exploit the weakness in an opponent in the same armor. A lot of the hits in this video would have been negligible for someone wearing chainmail, and even less for someone in full plate. Heck I'd say 90% of the double strikes would have been eliminated with a sturdy pair of gauntlets and a good helmet. It's my biggest beef with how hits are counted in some HEMA competitions. A hit on an unarmored or lightly armored opponent could easily have been meaningless on a more armored opponent. With chainmail and a gambeson a strike/cut to the arm would feel like a light to medium punch. Yes, you don't want to take any hits, but if I need to take a punch to the arm to shove my rondel into your chest it's a trade off I'm more then happy with.
    Yes, avoiding getting hit is great, but understanding your own armor and taking hits to land blows that will kill or incapacitate the opponent is even better. Of course it all depends on the weapon your opponent has and the armor you and your opponent are wearing.

    • @GabrielfoBR
      @GabrielfoBR 3 года назад +1

      I don't really get what you mean as most of HEMA represents unarmored dueling.

    • @Scuzzlebutt142
      @Scuzzlebutt142 3 года назад +9

      Armoured fighting and unarmoured fighting are two different things. Some of the basics are the same, but alot changes.
      Most HEMA is representative of unarmoured dueling, with armour worn as a safety measure, not representative of armour, just there to make sure you don't get damaged. You can do armoured fighting, but then the armour you're wearing is armour, and you then have to know how to fight against armour, and what strikes will do against it.

  • @CJ-ln8qq
    @CJ-ln8qq 3 года назад +2

    OMG YES! DO MORE PLEASE! This is great to watch. Really entertaining and I'm learning much more for/about 1v1 longsword combat.

    • @CJ-ln8qq
      @CJ-ln8qq 3 года назад

      OMG thank you shad for liking my comment! I love your vids so much!

  • @jakeweiland3444
    @jakeweiland3444 3 года назад

    Great video, looks like you are all having fun, good on ya

  • @fate7521
    @fate7521 3 года назад +13

    I could really use Shads methods for my fantasy novel, gives a better understanding. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us. 😀

  • @GeistDrachen
    @GeistDrachen 3 года назад +3

    Well if there’s one thing I can say, I’m also more of a visual learner without knowing the technical terms. I’m self taught and have invested in a foam zweihander sword from calimacil. 1. Because I love that sword and want to study the techniques with it. 2. It’s surprisingly intimidating on the airsoft field I go to.

  • @souldemonofshadows120
    @souldemonofshadows120 3 года назад +2

    i definitely want more of this watching you guys have good fun is great.

  • @jetshadowcrow
    @jetshadowcrow 3 года назад

    I highly enjoy and encourage that you are helping your friends learn any type of swordsmanship. Good on you, sir.

  • @ordersmilitant5998
    @ordersmilitant5998 3 года назад +15

    Shad, you should check out the arm's and armor of the game GreedFall.

  • @timothymonk1356
    @timothymonk1356 3 года назад +6

    Decisively move from one guard position to another, preferably one that intersects with the opponent's body

  • @eric3862
    @eric3862 3 года назад

    I’m the past couple months this Chanel has grown so much and it’s great to see.

  • @blumiu2426
    @blumiu2426 3 года назад +2

    That was pretty fun to see. I'd vote for more of this and seeing the Game Knights progress.

  • @brandonkirk6498
    @brandonkirk6498 3 года назад +3

    I really enjoy watching H.E.M.A training I do Fencing all three types ( foil, épée, and sabre ) for about Five years and I've been self teaching some H.E.M.A and Kendo for about two year on and off and I love see other people teach it and learn it

    • @Mr-Tibbster
      @Mr-Tibbster 3 года назад +1

      If you do fencing, you may want to look up Smallsword if you haven't already, as fencing was the evolution of that into a sport. You'll have some of the foundations already and its arguably the easiest form of HEMA to get into for someone less experienced. :)

    • @brandonkirk6498
      @brandonkirk6498 3 года назад +1

      @@Mr-Tibbster thank you for telling :)

  • @joshuajefferson3504
    @joshuajefferson3504 3 года назад +65

    Everybody's gangster until shad starts using 3 longswords while pulling off moves like zoro from 1 piece. 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @4dragons632
    @4dragons632 3 года назад +2

    I don't know where it comes from, but I remember a simple piece of swordfighting philosophy that I think is relevant here. It went something like this:
    You must think always of cutting your enemy, when you strike you aim to cut, when you block you aim to cut, when you are cut you aim to cut in return.
    If the swordsman thinks only of strikes, parries, and position, then that is all they shall accomplish. Every movement and thought must be towards victory.

    • @artistpenguin5890
      @artistpenguin5890 3 года назад +1

      That's Myamoto Musashi's "Book of five rings".

    • @4dragons632
      @4dragons632 3 года назад

      @@artistpenguin5890 Nice! Do you know if I missed any important bits from it, or was I pretty close to correct?

    • @artistpenguin5890
      @artistpenguin5890 3 года назад

      @@4dragons632 You quoted it almost word for word, yes)
      It's an interesting read even if you study european martial arts. It's a bit abstract, describing not techniques but more tactical principles of swordsmanship.

  • @billyhates
    @billyhates 3 года назад

    I listened to your book on audible and I enjoyed it very much! Thanks for the endless hours of content.

  • @waltersmith3377
    @waltersmith3377 3 года назад +3

    looks great! what I see mostly is that everyone is flat footed. just like any other combat form being flat footed you can't evade or take advantage nearly as easily as if you're on the balls of your feet

  • @bernardoluis7699
    @bernardoluis7699 3 года назад +6

    "you hit me in the ear"
    Fight Club flash back

  • @spawn4088
    @spawn4088 3 года назад +2

    Shad you are a great teacher and an awesome person. Respect! :)

  • @sarahhowell6781
    @sarahhowell6781 3 года назад +2

    This was great! I'd love to see more.

  • @jeremywatson9129
    @jeremywatson9129 3 года назад +6

    "With heart, faith and steel."
    -Juan Sanchez Villa-Lobos Ramirez

  • @daag1851
    @daag1851 3 года назад +4

    My take on the names of "moves",
    they are good when you want to talk with someone else, like saying [name] guard, instead of that: guard when you hold your sword in front of you in fully extended arm.

  • @lieroushenry3959
    @lieroushenry3959 3 года назад +1

    I highly enjoyed this not only was it some what educational for sword fighting but it was also highly entertaining

  • @graysonderp5902
    @graysonderp5902 3 года назад

    Congratulations on your incredible channel! I have been a fan for about 3 years and I try to learn from your channel and successfully too.

  • @zerpf2660
    @zerpf2660 3 года назад +3

    I do hema, and the lack of bending knees is annoying me to death! I like your views on swordsmanship, though, so nice video! Just remember that strong stance!

  • @LizGridleyArtist
    @LizGridleyArtist 3 года назад +10

    How to stabby from a distance effectively 👍 #LifeSkills

  • @michaelhansen5185
    @michaelhansen5185 3 года назад +1

    This was fun to watch! Learned a bit too!

  • @jeroenceulemans3715
    @jeroenceulemans3715 3 года назад +2

    I LOVED this! I am on a similar level, and since I am not able to practise with anyone it helps a lot to at least see what practice would look like and what is good (not) to do at such a level.

  • @estaticethan1752
    @estaticethan1752 3 года назад +15

    This would be interesting, because I think some would use the half-sword technique and holding the sword.

  • @DyvmSlorm
    @DyvmSlorm 3 года назад +5

    So my HEMA club is in Minneapolis right near George Floyd autonomous zone. I haven't been in over a year . The only thing I would encourage is working more on the distance game. All the beginners are rather static and linear. Move more side to side (like you are doing Shad) and make sure to begin out side of range. We also found that the hands are the target maybe 70% of the time. With the hands extended, they are the closest to the opponents blade and, when fighting against someone, cutting off a finger or hand tends to end the others fight quickly. I've found that sword fighting is mostly about the footwork and maintaining distance and exploiting range when the opportunity presents itself.
    Fun stuff (other than the dab )

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord 3 года назад

      @@aggromemnon335 Poor Hans, what'd he do to aggro everyone?

  • @harmacist6623
    @harmacist6623 3 года назад +2

    Man that opening is like watching an instructor having a fit over his Squire being so bad in swordsmanship.

  • @johnnyr3757
    @johnnyr3757 3 года назад +1

    That smile on your face, during your voice over explaining that you want to build their confidence and have them score strikes!

  • @willywanker449
    @willywanker449 3 года назад +4

    Sword fightin with da boys How wholesome

  • @vaelyon
    @vaelyon 3 года назад +14

    Just because of the intro i had to give you a like !🤣

  • @MaitreNaDaoine
    @MaitreNaDaoine 2 года назад +1

    This somehow reminds me of practicing when I was under 10 and I love it... not sure if it's the funny and cringe-worthy moments or watching your two entry-level squires improve over the course of the video and the more experienced squire that gave you a more even run for your money. I definitely wouldn't mind more of this kind of content so that I can watche everyone get better over time.

  • @yashaoftheflames8475
    @yashaoftheflames8475 3 года назад +1

    I've been waiting for this