Stunned that his position is: “Emotions were heightened during BLM protests so we allowed it.” Since when is the LAW modulated by the emotion of those who would break it?
by his really very Stupid statement, Shane Patton is de facto encouraging the conducting of 'emotional' Riots with multiple arsons and great destruction of property. He is a Total Disgrace for the police and should be in jail for Long for multiple Crimes Against Humanity to 6.5 million people in Victoria!
Can anybody answer my conundrum here. Chief Health Officer "Guidelines" . Guidelines as I understand are non binding, laws are binding. And if you were to assume that guidelines are laws, then what business does the Chief Health Officer have passing laws? It's not a legislative or even an executive position, it's just an advisory position. To give legislative powers to an unelected person seems unintuitive and dangerous if not downright suicidal.
That is an excellent point. And I guess this is at the core of the "emergency powers" schmozell. It is a blank cheque to ignore rights and create temporary and arbitrary "laws" at will. Changing daily if they feel like it. And all without the need for any transparency of the underlying evidence or decision-making process.
So he's essentially saying the individual loses his human rights for the good of the community... sounds like something straight out of Stalins notebook.
Once upon a time I trusted people in power (police etc). I was a young child then. Over 40 years I have come to see (and realise) the absolute hypocrisy and double-speak from police and most politicians in virtually all interactions they have. The rule of law has become meaningless in Australia.
Patton's like a deer in the headlights, thinking do I just quit sucking my wage from the public teat,? or just keep taking my yes man orders. So far out of his depth, hand chosen by Dopey.
How did 80000 people at the MCG football game. Sharing food, toilets, seats. Not a breach of the health order. But a protest in the street. Not sharing food and toilets was a breach. How ? How will 10000 people at the Melbourne Cup. Sharing food and drinks, cant eat with mask. Sharing toilet. Is not a risk? But a protest in the street a danger?
absolutely pathetic reasoning at 6:20. if you said before it occurred that you dont support it and that it would be illegal, then how in the hell did you let it go ahead? for the simple reasoning of covid and because of the 'emotion' at the time? the differences in police response between the BLM protest and the freedom march/'s was plain for everyone to see. what about the 'emotion' that was displayed during the freedom march/'s?
You're wasting your breath David. The commissioner contradicted himself a number of times in regard to police response to the 2 protests mentioned. You should have pressed him harder
Does the Commissioner seriously believe what he is saying? He would be an effing joke if he hadn’t turned Vic Pol into the worst most violent police force in the Commonwealth.
GUIDELINE. Noun~ a general rule, principle, or piece of advice. Police have been acting as if these guidelines out trump federal, state and constitutional law.
sack this sorry excuse for a human being vicpol needs to be removed and all those so called police can never again work in this line of work abuse of power and Shane mutton should spend the rest of his days in jail
This is exactly what I thought it's all mandated on emotion, the police force are driven by ego instead of rational thought and systematic policing. It's very disappointing and the depth of their damage to the community is immense. Congratulations on asking these questions in such a logical and systematic way, it's a pity the police weren't able to emulate that
@2.20 yes human rights are considered In what way were they considered. As shown by your people corralling them like the old western movies. Sent out 100 letters yet your own people ignored the directions and instead they bunched them up like sheep in a pen, do you not see the wrong doing. So when are the charges coming for those Police who Ignored and dont even understand the letters you sent out for others to Obey.
Wow! Jesus was right, how these people loves their respectability, unashamedly here in the Parliamentary committee hearing. None repented. They really think God is a fool.
He just described the actions of the SS. You are gathering to express your rights, oh we cannot have that, so now we will claim your putting other people who are not here at risk, so we are going to abuse your rights to stop you from assembling.
Correct me if i’m wrong. The law: people have the right to demonstrate. Cho guidelines: no gathering of more than 100 people. So does that mean cho guidelines override the law?
Cheif Health Officer didn't know what's happening. Police don't know what they are doing. Everybody is expecting the worst. Therefore: Police it hard....show no mercy! Vicpolice should have monitored the populus expresing their feelings/views. Presumed innocence before guilt and only interferred if a mass violation occurs. Premature action, uncontrolled action and lack of discretion by Vic Police has ruined their cedibility as LAW enforcement. Everyone are not criminals! When will you learn? We are just voicing our grievances. SHUT-UP AND LISTEN!!!!
What evidence what demonstrated by the concern for human rights????? Patton you outright expressed your inhumane approach to humanity and absolute right for the bullshit CHO directions. If you were a decent cop, you would arrest the CHO and yourself!
The protesters on Melbourne Cup day who were assaulted and pepper sprayed looked pretty emotional to me. Watch and comment: ruclips.net/video/J7nne7coyH4/видео.html
"We can't let people protest unless they're emotional and in large numbers".
Yeesh
Stunned that his position is:
“Emotions were heightened during BLM protests so we allowed it.”
Since when is the LAW modulated by the emotion of those who would break it?
Since women
The protesters assaulted and pepper sprayed on Melbourne Cup day looked pretty emotional to me. Watch and comment:
by his really very Stupid statement, Shane Patton is de facto encouraging the conducting of 'emotional' Riots with multiple arsons and great destruction of property.
He is a Total Disgrace for the police and should be in jail for Long for multiple Crimes Against Humanity to 6.5 million people in Victoria!
Exactly
So apparently protesting as violently as possible is how you retain your right to protest?
Can anybody answer my conundrum here. Chief Health Officer "Guidelines" . Guidelines as I understand are non binding, laws are binding. And if you were to assume that guidelines are laws, then what business does the Chief Health Officer have passing laws? It's not a legislative or even an executive position, it's just an advisory position. To give legislative powers to an unelected person seems unintuitive and dangerous if not downright suicidal.
That is an excellent point.
And I guess this is at the core of the "emergency powers" schmozell.
It is a blank cheque to ignore rights and create temporary and arbitrary "laws" at will. Changing daily if they feel like it.
And all without the need for any transparency of the underlying evidence or decision-making process.
So he's essentially saying the individual loses his human rights for the good of the community... sounds like something straight out of Stalins notebook.
The policeman's pants are on fire...
So to simplify, if you threaten mass violence you can protest.
Unless you're protesting draconian governments apparently.
Once upon a time I trusted people in power (police etc). I was a young child then. Over 40 years I have come to see (and realise) the absolute hypocrisy and double-speak from police and most politicians in virtually all interactions they have. The rule of law has become meaningless in Australia.
I wouldn't trust him alone with my children for ten minutes.
I'm not sure how Patton can say that they take human rights into consideration while saying that with a straight face.
police are taught to lie first and foremost as a part of the policing handbook thats how and he knows he is safe no mater what
Mason tricks.
This cop is full of himself.
full of crap you mean?
Unskilled labour
Oh the Yes Man Patton. Never says no. Never questions orders. Yes Daniel. Two sugars with that Daniel. The RC will sort these pricks out.
I vote we eliminate all emergency powers. We might need them, but they have proven not to be trusted with power.
Gestapo's.. we will never forget and never trust the police again.
So holding people against there will, isn't against human rights.
MP David Limbrick is so inspirational here!
Paton on a human rights panel? That’s a fucking sick joke!
Hopefully she'll get her own medacine. Next election.
“The State of Emergency is providing a lot of protections at the moment” that sums it up hahaha
Evil eyes. Darkness has infiltrated all aspects of governments
Two words, DOUBLE STANDARDS!
Perhaps the only person who needs to leave public work before Daniel Andrews.
Looks like that uniform was designed by Hugo Boss...
I don't know if many people got this reference... I got it... nice one.
@@TheRoark85 many people don't, and it's nice a subtle
@@RJTrezise1983 Nazi uniforms were Boss
So shooting unarmed citizens with rubber bullets is not against human rights according to Victorian police
Patton's like a deer in the headlights, thinking do I just quit sucking my wage from the public teat,? or just keep taking my yes man orders. So far out of his depth, hand chosen by Dopey.
He doesn't know what human rights are!!! What a liar!
Liar liar pants on fire.
How did 80000 people at the MCG football game. Sharing food, toilets, seats. Not a breach of the health order. But a protest in the street. Not sharing food and toilets was a breach. How ? How will 10000 people at the Melbourne Cup. Sharing food and drinks, cant eat with mask. Sharing toilet. Is not a risk? But a protest in the street a danger?
Shane Patton admitting that the protest numbers were in the thousands... while the media said it was a few hundred .... whoops
absolutely pathetic reasoning at 6:20. if you said before it occurred that you dont support it and that it would be illegal, then how in the hell did you let it go ahead? for the simple reasoning of covid and because of the 'emotion' at the time? the differences in police response between the BLM protest and the freedom march/'s was plain for everyone to see. what about the 'emotion' that was displayed during the freedom march/'s?
Looking back at this from late 2021 it paints an evil image of this man. Nuremberg 2 attendee?
GET USED TO ANSWERING QUESTIONS SHANE. SLEEP TIGHT PAL. NOV 22 JUST AROUND THE CORNER.
You're wasting your breath David. The commissioner contradicted himself a number of times in regard to police response to the 2 protests mentioned. You should have pressed him harder
Power hungry dogs
"Provided drinks on the day" .... apparently a bucket of water is providing a drink to protestors... Righto Mate...
Absolutely full of it shane.
absolute disconnect, guidelines vs 'systematically' arrested, humanely???? vastly different events ?????
Does the Commissioner seriously believe what he is saying? He would be an effing joke if he hadn’t turned Vic Pol into the worst most violent police force in the Commonwealth.
Nuremberg trials 2.0
make melbourne free again
make me about to holiday again
no more comunist
_David Irvine_
This guy is a liar.
Why are they wasting money on sign language? Speech-to-text is a trivial technology.
for the same reason id prefer not to have text come up on my tv when watching something live.
@@Simon-nv5zj Except this is taxpayer funded when it is redundant. It's a virtue signal, nothing more.
@@Simon-nv5zj on RUclips you can turn it on or off at will. They might as well have an interpretive dancer on screen.
GUIDELINE.
Noun~ a general rule, principle, or piece of advice.
Police have been acting as if these guidelines out trump federal, state and constitutional law.
2 wrongs dont make a right
We need to use emergency powers because otherwise it wouldn’t be constitutional
we have no constitution. TV lies an makes you think we're all as free as america to pacify you
What, the commissioner doesn’t think that convid suppression was not emotionally charged ? 😂😂 Nice try commissioner 👍
Lies
9:00 - protest not allowed at all.
Is that true? I thought groups were limited by size, not by purpose.
sack this sorry excuse for a human being vicpol needs to be removed and all those so called police can never again work in this line of work abuse of power and Shane mutton should spend the rest of his days in jail
This is exactly what I thought it's all mandated on emotion, the police force are driven by ego instead of rational thought and systematic policing. It's very disappointing and the depth of their damage to the community is immense.
Congratulations on asking these questions in such a logical and systematic way, it's a pity the police weren't able to emulate that
Health my ass
God help us.
Praying for you all 🇬🇧💪
9.50 he makes no apologies
@2.20 yes human rights are considered In what way were they considered.
As shown by your people corralling them like the old western movies.
Sent out 100 letters yet your own people ignored the directions and instead they bunched them up like sheep in a pen, do you not see the wrong doing.
So when are the charges coming for those Police who Ignored and dont even understand the letters you sent out for others to Obey.
Gotcha Shane. Violent protests can go ahead.
The VCP are better at spin than my clothes dryer. Geez.
Lol!
Patton is a joke.
Wow! Jesus was right, how these people loves their respectability, unashamedly here in the Parliamentary committee hearing. None repented. They really think God is a fool.
Cockery....
Shane Shane guess what we don’t believe you , your credibility has sadly been eroded to a point that it can never be reinstated. You are gone,
Shane Patton puts me in mind of Russell Gilbert
He just described the actions of the SS. You are gathering to express your rights, oh we cannot have that, so now we will claim your putting other people who are not here at risk, so we are going to abuse your rights to stop you from assembling.
Neil Angus is my type of honest politician. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Communities don’t have human rights. Individuals have human rights, hence humAn rights.
Ahhh yeah 🤔😂🤣😂🤣 order and control mmmmm I can see who is inciting the rule.
Get Lisa a glass of Sauvignon Blanc, goes well with the chrones
Correct me if i’m wrong.
The law: people have the right to demonstrate.
Cho guidelines: no gathering of more than 100 people.
So does that mean cho guidelines override the law?
At 80% Vax you could hardly call it an emergency any more. Ah it's an old post... my bad! That always gets me
Remind me never to get that hairstyle, very Hitlerish
When I am saying nothing - yes that's what they want - pathetic..Everyone should abandon this crap..
The state of emergency is providing a number of protections at the moment🦘
Cheif Health Officer didn't know what's happening. Police don't know what they are doing. Everybody is expecting the worst. Therefore: Police it hard....show no mercy! Vicpolice should have monitored the populus expresing their feelings/views. Presumed innocence before guilt and only interferred if a mass violation occurs. Premature action, uncontrolled action and lack of discretion by Vic Police has ruined their cedibility as LAW enforcement. Everyone are not criminals! When will you learn? We are just voicing our grievances. SHUT-UP AND LISTEN!!!!
Commissioner is full of crap !
Shane simply deflects…
Because it is politically motivated,
JUST WONDERING IF THAT WOMAN UP TOP WITH ALL THAT HAND GESTURES IS THE CORRUPT M INISTERS TWIN SISTER, GROSS.
What evidence what demonstrated by the concern for human rights????? Patton you outright expressed your inhumane approach to humanity and absolute right for the bullshit CHO directions. If you were a decent cop, you would arrest the CHO and yourself!
The protesters on Melbourne Cup day who were assaulted and pepper sprayed looked pretty emotional to me. Watch and comment: ruclips.net/video/J7nne7coyH4/видео.html
My comments censored...
Human Rights ! , Victoria Police ! , in the same sentence ! , Surely not !
What, the commissioner doesn’t think that convid suppression was not emotionally charged ? 😂😂 Nice try commissioner 👍