Well, Sir Bob! Thanks for all your great videos and providing the adjusters manual for the 127 I just picked up. I spent some time doing minor clean up and oiling, repairing the tension unit and adjusting. I then threaded the machine and put in a loaded bobbin. The machine would not even pick up the bobbin thread. I started making adjustments per the manual you provided. It finally picked up the bobbin thread and sewed but continued to drop stitches intermittently and sometime for many stitches, despite all my adjustments. Then i learned a valuable lesson! I discovered that the needle that was in the machine when i purchased it was the wrong needle! 😮 Too short! Now it's sewing perfectly! Note too self, ALWAYS CHANGE THE NEEDLE, trust no one! 😂😂
Your videos are wonderful, the manual is wonderful and I am almost convinced I can service my great grandmother's Singer 27. I am slowly collecting lubricants and tools and nerve.
just what i wanted. a visual aid to go along with the adjustment manual. it was excellent. thank you and keep the videos coming i enjoy each and every one
Did I hear you say that's all you got for us, Bob? My ears must be foolin' with me because that is what we call a Tour de Force! And I just have to say that your cleaned-up version of the manual is awesome. You're quite right, it is much, much clearer than anything else out there. You deserve a medal for that alone and I just can't thank you enough!! Having this wonderful video to go with it is, as they say, the cherry on top of the icing on the cake!!! Hang on a tick of the tock... I think I need a few more exclamation points... !!!!!! Ahhh - that's much better. :-)
Thanks Bob! We have my wife's treadle model 27 from 1873 which was very poorly cared for land in my lap. I adore these machines and follow your videos and Andy's for my restorations. This manual will make all the difference around here.
Thamks Bob for the video. You have that 127 video that helped me so much when I got mine. Special thanks for the manual. I have a handcranke 127 that sews beautifully after following one of your earlier tutorials. Good to see you back.
I really appreciate the level of detail and the link to the manual. Just got a 28k from 1910 that's in great shape and I look forward to taking care of it.
Mr. Fowler, thank you so much for making this awesome, informative video and for providing a link to get the service manual. I learn so much from watching your videos.
Today, after a clean up of a 1902 Singer 27 (there was a century of 'shmoo"), I will be reassembling the needle bar and presser foot. This particular video and others you've provided have been a huge help. Going to be fun to see if I can get this girl to stitch again! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Great help!
Thanks for your timely post, Bob! I just picked up my first treadle machine- an Egyptian vibrating shuttle. My first time seeing one and it appears to be perfectly timed after some cleaning. Waiting for a belt tonight😁
Got 'er cleaned, oiled. Darn flying springs! Doing some refinishing now. Trying to check timing was a challenge, but finally figured out that the needle was going in too high. Working well now, but I need practice on the treadling!
Thank you! So glad I found your channel and website. I have a 28k hand rank and she is lovely. I have absorbed the info from this video and have it bookmarked to use again. Now all I need is to find this kind of stuff for my Singer 12. I am still looking. It is out there somewhere. Thanks again for the info on 3 of the 4 iron ladies I have.
The bending info is extra helpful. The first vintage machine I got a couple years ago, the shuttle was rubbing the underside of the plates. I was terrified to bend it, but there was no other option. And now I know what position to eventually bend it to.
Thanks for this :) i just got hold of a 1906 model 28 and doing some mild restoration and cleanup on it, its not stitching atm so needs adjustment so this vid and PDF is just what i need :)
Thank you again sir for some very much needed information. I just gotten myself a 1946 manufactured 128 that so far sews very good just need cleaning & re-oiling, maybe replace the cabinet & work on the electric motor "too tired to rotate" but I was wondering if I could find this info.
Hello from Argentina Bob! I do have trouble with my new-to-me 127, it doesn´t make the lock of the stitch. I will try your tips but I have to ask: does this machine use the same regular needles the actual machines uses? Thank you in advance
They are essentially the same. The big changes came with the upper and lower placement. If the machine is a treadle, I kinda like the lower placement, but if it has a motor, it pretty7 much has to be up high.
Hey @BobfowlerWorkshop, I really love vour videos and I've found your content to be invaluable in my restoration of a 1930 128. The only thing I would change here is your gauge for measuring the needle bar height. You fell victim to overthinking the problem on this one. I've done the same repairing old cameras. Your gauge doesn't actually reach the bottom of the screw just the bottom of the screw head. What I did instead was take a retired needle, measure it to 20.5mm cut off the tip from that point down and put just a small dab of bright pink nail polish on it. The needle butts up to the screw post and is ready set for the correct height with a bright marker.
Hi, I tried to get your adjuster manual to load on my computer, but it wouldn't load. Can you load another link. Thank you. -Caryl, sewing machine + technician.
I was given a 128 but it is electric. Ive only seen hand wheels on other 128s. Not sure why this is for this one. But i am trying to get it in better shape.
Thanks so much for the great video. I have my Grandmothers 1912 Singer 128K I am wanting to use for leather work. Seems in great shape but I have never used it before. MOst likely not used in over 50 years. I have a problem with the thread not exiting the vibrating shuttle when I have the thread loaded into the shuttle on its Bobbin. I have taken care to follow online videos for loading my Bobbin with thread and loading the bobbin in the Shuttle but the thread binds only when the bobbin is in the shuttle. Not sure why. I have tried singer oil inside the shuttle but no joy. Any ideas as to what may cause the bobbin to bind inside the shuttle? Nothing seems damaged on the shuttle and the tension screw does not seem to be the issue as the tread passes fine through the shuttle when not loaded on to the bobbin. Hope this make sense, and thanks in advance for the time........wayne bergman Sunshine Coast Canada
El tamaño de aguja correcto es 15X1. Este es el tamaño más común para las máquinas de tipo doméstico, debería poder encontrarlas en cualquier tienda de costura local o en Amazon.com.
I'm confused , I thought the 28 has the bobbin winder near the bed and the one you got with the bobbin winder near the top is a 128 , can you explain this to me , i didnt know the 28 ever had the winder up top ....hmmm
Yeah, Singer had some interesting things going on back then... Later models of the 27 and 28 had the winders up top, and to make it more interesting, some early 127 and 128 had the winders down low. This is a 28. You can tell by the upper thread tension assembly. There is no linkages inside the needle bar box to release the tension by lifting the presser foot. The release is the "spoon" type on the tension assembly proper.
@@BobFowlerWorkshop i noticed that spoon style tentioner thats why i was confused, ive never seen one like that with the winder up top , also found out today they made a aluminum 99 in early 20s , now im hunting one down , rare from what ive learned , so may take a while if ever but love the hunt , thanks for all your help with your videos ,
Well, Sir Bob!
Thanks for all your great videos and providing the adjusters manual for the 127 I just picked up.
I spent some time doing minor clean up and oiling, repairing the tension unit and adjusting. I then threaded the machine and put in a loaded bobbin. The machine would not even pick up the bobbin thread. I started making adjustments per the manual you provided. It finally picked up the bobbin thread and sewed but continued to drop stitches intermittently and sometime for many stitches, despite all my adjustments.
Then i learned a valuable lesson!
I discovered that the needle that was in the machine when i purchased it was the wrong needle! 😮 Too short! Now it's sewing perfectly! Note too self, ALWAYS CHANGE THE NEEDLE, trust no one! 😂😂
I like getting in the weeds Bob! That's where I learn the most! Getting that manual downloaded, thanks for all you do!
Thanks for the manual
Your videos are wonderful, the manual is wonderful and I am almost convinced I can service my great grandmother's Singer 27. I am slowly collecting lubricants and tools and nerve.
You can do it.
just what i wanted. a visual aid to go along with the adjustment manual. it was excellent. thank you and keep the videos coming i enjoy each and every one
Did I hear you say that's all you got for us, Bob? My ears must be foolin' with me because that is what we call a Tour de Force! And I just have to say that your cleaned-up version of the manual is awesome. You're quite right, it is much, much clearer than anything else out there. You deserve a medal for that alone and I just can't thank you enough!! Having this wonderful video to go with it is, as they say, the cherry on top of the icing on the cake!!! Hang on a tick of the tock... I think I need a few more exclamation points... !!!!!! Ahhh - that's much better. :-)
Oh Megan, I don't know about all that... Thanks so much for the ultra kind words! Say Hi to Clark!
Thanks Bob! We have my wife's treadle model 27 from 1873 which was very poorly cared for land in my lap. I adore these machines and follow your videos and Andy's for my restorations. This manual will make all the difference around here.
Thamks Bob for the video. You have that 127 video that helped me so much when I got mine. Special thanks for the manual. I have a handcranke 127 that sews beautifully after following one of your earlier tutorials. Good to see you back.
I really appreciate the level of detail and the link to the manual. Just got a 28k from 1910 that's in great shape and I look forward to taking care of it.
Glad to help!
Mr. Fowler, thank you so much for making this awesome, informative video and for providing a link to get the service manual. I learn so much from watching your videos.
My sister is visiting from North Carolina ........she's loving the cool San Fran fog........
Thank you for all your hard work on the manual and description, it’s very helpful!
Today, after a clean up of a 1902 Singer 27 (there was a century of 'shmoo"), I will be reassembling the needle bar and presser foot. This particular video and others you've provided have been a huge help. Going to be fun to see if I can get this girl to stitch again! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Great help!
Thank you very much for all the details you just mentioned here it helps me to adjust my singer 27 1910, thank you.
Thanks for your timely post, Bob!
I just picked up my first treadle machine- an Egyptian vibrating shuttle. My first time seeing one and it appears to be perfectly timed after some cleaning. Waiting for a belt tonight😁
Got 'er cleaned, oiled. Darn flying springs! Doing some refinishing now. Trying to check timing was a challenge, but finally figured out that the needle was going in too high. Working well now, but I need practice on the treadling!
Just what I was looking for! Now I hope to get my Singer 128 to make a stitch! Thanks so much.
I am having a hell of a time with my 28. Thinking of sending out to you.
Send me an email... argosybob@gmail.com
Thank you! So glad I found your channel and website. I have a 28k hand rank and she is lovely. I have absorbed the info from this video and have it bookmarked to use again. Now all I need is to find this kind of stuff for my Singer 12. I am still looking. It is out there somewhere. Thanks again for the info on 3 of the 4 iron ladies I have.
The bending info is extra helpful. The first vintage machine I got a couple years ago, the shuttle was rubbing the underside of the plates. I was terrified to bend it, but there was no other option. And now I know what position to eventually bend it to.
Thanks for this :) i just got hold of a 1906 model 28 and doing some mild restoration and cleanup on it, its not stitching atm so needs adjustment so this vid and PDF is just what i need :)
Yay mine will finally live again
Cheers Bob,from NZ
Thanks Bob!
Obrigado por partilhar seus conhecimentos e partilhar mais um vídeo excelente!
Aqui vai o meu 👍
Thank you again sir for some very much needed information.
I just gotten myself a 1946 manufactured 128 that so far sews very good just need cleaning & re-oiling, maybe replace the cabinet & work on the electric motor "too tired to rotate" but I was wondering if I could find this info.
Hello from Argentina Bob! I do have trouble with my new-to-me 127, it doesn´t make the lock of the stitch. I will try your tips but I have to ask: does this machine use the same regular needles the actual machines uses? Thank you in advance
Thanks Bob!! Have you Got a Singer 48k adjuster's manual too?
The bobbin winders on the 27 or the 28 which style do you prefer.
They are essentially the same. The big changes came with the upper and lower placement. If the machine is a treadle, I kinda like the lower placement, but if it has a motor, it pretty7 much has to be up high.
Hey @BobfowlerWorkshop, I really love vour videos and I've found your content to be invaluable in my restoration of a 1930 128. The only thing I would change here is your gauge for measuring the needle bar height. You fell victim to overthinking the problem on this one. I've done the same repairing old cameras. Your gauge doesn't actually reach the bottom of the screw just the bottom of the screw head. What I did instead was take a retired needle, measure it to 20.5mm cut off the tip from that point down and put just a small dab of bright pink nail polish on it. The needle butts up to the screw post and is ready set for the correct height with a bright marker.
Hi, I tried to get your adjuster manual to load on my computer, but it wouldn't load. Can you load another link. Thank you. -Caryl, sewing machine + technician.
Try this one: bobsvsmservice.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Singer-127-and-128-Adjuster-Manual.pdf
I was given a 128 but it is electric. Ive only seen hand wheels on other 128s. Not sure why this is for this one. But i am trying to get it in better shape.
Thanks so much for the great video. I have my Grandmothers 1912 Singer 128K I am wanting to use for leather work. Seems in great shape but I have never used it before. MOst likely not used in over 50 years. I have a problem with the thread not exiting the vibrating shuttle when I have the thread loaded into the shuttle on its Bobbin. I have taken care to follow online videos for loading my Bobbin with thread and loading the bobbin in the Shuttle but the thread binds only when the bobbin is in the shuttle. Not sure why. I have tried singer oil inside the shuttle but no joy. Any ideas as to what may cause the bobbin to bind inside the shuttle? Nothing seems damaged on the shuttle and the tension screw does not seem to be the issue as the tread passes fine through the shuttle when not loaded on to the bobbin. Hope this make sense, and thanks in advance for the time........wayne bergman Sunshine Coast Canada
Where do we get the manual. Please give the link.
bobsvsmservice.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Singer-127-and-128-Adjuster-Manual.pdf
I have a national sewing machine that needs a shuttle bobbin case, will Singer shuttle work. Princess model ?
Pls HELP me I have this machine is not working well sometime it jump it didn't sew well
No puedo encontrar la aguja adecuada pra esta máquina, la venderan aun, donde la puedo encontrar? , necesito una respuesta por favor
El tamaño de aguja correcto es 15X1. Este es el tamaño más común para las máquinas de tipo doméstico, debería poder encontrarlas en cualquier tienda de costura local o en Amazon.com.
A minha máquina é igual a essa e não cose.gostaria de saber como consertar.
I'm confused , I thought the 28 has the bobbin winder near the bed and the one you got with the bobbin winder near the top is a 128 , can you explain this to me , i didnt know the 28 ever had the winder up top ....hmmm
Yeah, Singer had some interesting things going on back then... Later models of the 27 and 28 had the winders up top, and to make it more interesting, some early 127 and 128 had the winders down low. This is a 28. You can tell by the upper thread tension assembly. There is no linkages inside the needle bar box to release the tension by lifting the presser foot. The release is the "spoon" type on the tension assembly proper.
@@BobFowlerWorkshop i noticed that spoon style tentioner thats why i was confused, ive never seen one like that with the winder up top , also found out today they made a aluminum 99 in early 20s , now im hunting one down , rare from what ive learned , so may take a while if ever but love the hunt , thanks for all your help with your videos ,
Im sorry but I cant download the adjusters manual. Can you help please?
I need to send you my 27.i think i have a problem you are describing .been wrking on it for 2 days. I dont have the skill
Email me at argosybob@gmail.com
Miles de gracias por el video ;pero podría explicarlo en español
Boa tarde,eu não entendo inglês gostaria de ouvir o vídeo em português.
what kind motor can l put on
hi im from george south africa i have a jones family c.s 510283 still working beautiful