'Is Oogie Boogie, like, the worst in this town?' Probably my favorite line in this movie comes from the song 'This Is Halloween.' In (I think) the second bridge, they sing 'Tender lumplings everywhere, life's no fun without a good scare. That's our job, but we're not mean, in our town of Halloween.' It's a mission statement. Halloween Town is about the visceral, adrenaline-rush thrill of being scared, not fear and terror for the cause of misery. It's all about the fun of a horror movie or roller coaster. Oogie is different. He maliciously enjoys the pain and terror he causes. That's why he's an outcast.
Chestnuts are totally real. They used to be extremely common in the US, and were even a staple food. People collected them in the fall and ate them all through the year, and tons of furniture and houses were made of chestnut wood. Every Christmas season up until the 1950's, it was common to see vendors selling bags of hot roasted chestnuts on the street. But around 1900, a fungus from Asia got accidentally introduced into the chestnut population, and it wiped out about 99.9% of all the chestnut trees in America. Some have survived though and the species is slowly being brought back to how it used to be.
You should also learn the difference between chestnuts and buckeyes. Buckeyes are toxic and if enough are eaten they can kill you 🤪. They look very similar. We actually had a chestnut tree in our yard and I would eat them all the time. I never tried roasting them though I feel like I missed out.
The Mayor is a "two-faced politician", someone else already commented about the Creature from the Black Lagoon, and another pointed out Santa's exit is from Clement Clarke Moore's poem. I also wanted to point out that the things which shot at Jack were slot machines - aka one-armed bandits. Skellington is a term from England - it's a child's way of saying skeleton. Another reactor was surprised about the military mobilizing on "Santa" but IRL there's the NORAD Santa Tracker every year, lol.
Henry Selick was the one who directed this movie. He's an extremely talented stop-motion animator who also directed _James and the Giant Peach_ , and _Coraline_ . It was based on a poem Tim Burton wrote (as well as illustrated).
Interesting to note, Chris Sarandon, "Prince Humperdinck" from "The Princess Bride" is the voice of Jack Skellington when he speaks, and Danny Elfman is the voice of Jack when he sings. Both very deep in character, and just wonderful performances.
16:47 “I made the first move on Hubben, and now we married!” Me too, Ashleigh! My ‘Hubben’ was my boss. Every time he left the room, I would go and place a candy kiss on his desk. Took him a while to figure who it was, and seemed forever for him to respond. He finally said to me “I bet these don’t taste as good as the real ones.” I told him that it wasn’t my fault that he didn’t know that truth. It’ll be 29 years next year.
@@NathanS__ it's modern culture breeding that out of us. Used to be how things were done, by either side. Little hints and flirtations. Women made the first move a lot more often. Stuff like dropping a handkerchief in front of a man giving him the chance to return it and spark a conversation, for example. Nowadays with how woke everyone seems to be, something like leaving chocolates like that could be considered stalking or unwanted even sexual harassment due to the nature of the name of the candy... Sad.
@@spud69g You can't even just say hello to a woman anymore without her crying rape. I honestly have no idea how couples do it, because I don't have a clue about meeting women
From - Twas the Night Before Christmas: "And laying a finger aside of his nose, and giving a nod up the chimney he rose!" It's one of Santa's OG abilities.
The thing is, that "finger on the nose" gesture has come to be associated with St.Nick going up the chimney thanks to that single verse in that poem, but that was not the original intention. The intention was not that touching his nose was his magic gesture to rise up chimneys. Putting a finger on your nose was (and remains, among some folks) a gesture of secrecy, taking someone into your confidence, "This is between us, know what I mean? Don't tell anyone." (Which of course the author does by writing the poem.) It's like a thumbs up, or a peace sign, or The Finger, or putting your finger in front of your lips to mean "quiet": it's a hand gesture with an established meaning among the people of that time and place. It was coincidentally the last thing St.Nick "said" before he went up the chimney of his own volition. But now, thanks to that verse in that poem, many people who have no reference for "a finger on the nose is a gesture of knowing secrecy" assume that it's St.Nick's "this is how I go up the chimney" magic thing. Funny how little things can take on such different meanings, through time...
Jack's singing voice was done by Danny Elfman, Sally was voiced by Catherine O'Hara, Lock was voiced by Paul Reubens (Pee Wee Herman) and Dr. Finkelstein was voiced by William Hickey, who was Uncle Lewis in Christmas Vacation.
@@utility63 Yup, I did know that. But I thought it might be a bit obscure to mention to Ashleigh. I'm not sure if she'd have recalled him from when she reacted to it.
Chestnut trees used to be huge in the US. As a food source, chestnuts were almost used as much as corn. In the early 1900s there was a fungus unintentionally introduced from Asia that wipes nearly all of them out. When old timey Christmas songs were being written during the mid-century, it was from the point of view of people that still enjoyed them which is why we still hear about em in songs.
I believe you, but chestnuts are definitely still around and still a thing. I assure you- go to nearly any food cart in midtown NYC at Christmas time and they are selling roasted chestnuts.
@@mettehansen9754 We get imported Chestnuts, and I think there may be one or two in a conservatory, but the tree is practically extinct in North America
Chestnuts are still available, but kind of disappointing in the flesh. If you roast chestnuts, make sure you poke a hole in them first, or they'll explode.
I find it fascinating how Ashleigh has a hard time comprehending a classic monster like the Creature from the Black Lagoon when there's infinitely more bewildering characters like the Harlequin Demon
Edward Scissorhands is among Burton's greatest films. Not all of Burton's work is good. His early stuff is by far his best. But a lot of that early stuff is gold.
Someone once said about Tim Burton's career that the first half of it was mostly films that on paper shouldn't have worked but did, and the latter half is mostly films that on paper should have worked but didn't. I can get behind that to a degree.
"The Corpse Bride" is a great Tim Burton film with a similar vibe, and is also in stop-motion animation. I used to double-feature the two movies for Halloween.
I like how in the extras on The Corpse Bride" they show how the gears for changi g the faces were accessed tjrough sticking the tool in the ears. Clever, but appropriately creepy, too. I also liked the 2 piano pieces they did & wanted longer versions.
This wasn't your only Tim Burton film besides Beetlejuice. You watched Keaton and Nicholson in Batman and you've seen Ed Wood. You should definitely add Burton's films The Corpse Bride and Edward Scissorhands to your list. And don't miss the first (and best imo) Burton film - Pee Wee's Big Adventure.
I’ve seen four reactions to this movie this past week and all four of them didn’t understand the Santa Claus flying away bit. In the story The Night Before Christmas, when Santa was done putting the presents under the tree, he “put his finger on the side of his nose and up the chimney he rose.” Apparently nobody was read the story as a kid in the last 30 years. And that’s very upsetting! Anyway, I’m glad you liked it! 💙💙💙
That is a magical ability in folklore in some countries that magical being royals have. Meaning some countries see Santa Claus as like the King of the North Pole and the residents are his subjects. People also are confused by this in Labyrinth and think it is a drug reference. It is not a drug reference. It indicates that Jarith is the Goblin King and has some magical abilities he can use like this. Think of it as a reminder of his power to his subjects in that moment.
Ashley is officially the best reactor on the internet. The fact that she made this so entertaining with almost no audio from a musical is amazing. Pure talent.
I really dislike the fact that she didn't only silenced all the songs (there are many reactions to this movie that take the time to edit at least some tiny bits of the songs) but also so much from the dialogue. So I can't agree with you on that.
Burton used to be a Disney animator, forced to draw happy toons for years. It's fitting that his rebellion when he became independent consisted to draw the same toons with a frown. Just like teenagers rebel by becoming goths dressed in black. Both display a safe and innocuous rebellion accepted and even branded by the Machine.
It's weird that Tim Burton didn't direct it, almost everybody thinks he did...I certainly thought that for years. He absolutely influenced the look and vibe of the movie as the writer/producer for certain. It was actually directed by Henry Selick, probably because Burton never directed feature length animation projects of this size before. What I love about the movie is that Danny Elfman was the voice for the songs for Jack, the speaking parts were done by another actor. Danny Elfman was the lead singer of the the band Oingo Boingo, and has written nearly every soundtrack for Tim Burton movies...his best being Batman '89 IMHO
The speaking voice was Chris Sarandon (Prince Humperdink- Princess Bride, Jerry-Fright Night), also semi related it’s fun to know that Princess Buttercup later went on to be the most evil movie villain ever (Jenny- Forrest Gump),
@@crazyhorsecavdoc4916 Jenny from Forest Gump, aka "child molested by her father who spent years of her life dealing with her childhood trauma with drugs and almost jumping off a building because she's suffering so much"... That's the most evil movie villain ever in your eyes? I swear, Tom Hanks is so damn likeable in that role that people instinctively hate anyone that hurts his feelings, no matter how good a reason they have for acting the way they do. Jenny is one of the most tragic movie characters I've ever seen, especially since she is completely misunderstood by a large number of people who see that movie.
Although all this movie was based on a concept by Burton and with his total approval for all artistic decisions, Henry Selick is the real MVP of this production, he was the director of the movie and the one that deal with all the problems within it. He also directed Coraline, a fantastic movie based on Neil Gaiman's book.
Thank you. I came here to say this myself. Henry Selick has gotten the short end of the stick for ages because every film he does gets marketed as "From the creator of Nightmare Before Christmas" so everyone thinks that Tim Burton directed it, completely erasing his name from his hard work and attributing films to Burton that he had nothing to do with.
@@TheAbstruseOne all this happened becase in every poster made the title reads: Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas. So sure, it was his idea an designs, but all the direction and woarkload was pure Selick and he made a timeless classic.
I think it's fair to say that several key people contributed a great deal to the overall product. The fact that it's "Tim Burton's" Nightmare Before Christmas was just a marketing tactic that they liked to use during that time, I guess because they thought people wouldn't see the movie if they didn't attach a recognizable name to it. So you get things like "Bram Stoker's Dracula" or "William Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet". Obviously those movies were not directed by Bram Stoker or William Shakespeare. But Selick captures Burton's esthetic so well it's pretty forgivable that people are confused. A lot of credit also goes to Danny Elfman for writing all of the amazing music, which also helped contribute many of the story beats and brings the whole concept together.
@@christopherlundgren1700 Oh there's a lot of people that were key and many have no clue about them. If you can there is a Netflix docuseries called The movies that made us, one of the episodes is about this movie, check it out, its very interesting. Well, to be fair, Tim Burton did wrote the poem the whole concept was based on, and it's marketing 101, they use a big name to attract people to see a movie, specially a movie that was made in stop motion animation with a concept that nobody could've guessed would be such a hit. The only problem is that the man behind the wheels of this didn't get the recognition that should've been his. Of course this wasn't Burton's fault. Danny Elfman did magic with this movie, amazing that it was his first music socre, right? And even sang the Jack Skellington songs.
@@jeanpaulmedellin Re: the score being his first, this didn't sound right to me, but it looks like as far as doing a full musical score for a film you might be correct. But before this he'd already composed quite a few memorable main themes for TV shows and movies. He also fronted the New Wave band Oingo Boingo.
I just noticed at 5:18 her pupils dilate for a second while she’s looking at Jack (which is a real thing that happens when people look at someone they’re attracted to) which is a cool little detail! Of course, it could just be their claymation version of the cartoonish eye-bulging but still.
Chestnuts are very real. They come from Chestnut Trees, which were typically huge and Chestnuts were a Major part of the diet for a lot of Americans. Unfortunately, an invasive species/disease virtually wiped them out. There are a few trees left in the wild, and some people are attempting to re-populate the forests with them, but, ya-know, trees. They take a long time to grow and mature.
You have seen a few other Tim Burton films for the channel including: Batman and Ed Wood. Okay so to clarify a couple of this started as a poem by Tim Burton and Tim had worked as an animator for Disney since the 70’s and this film was set to be Walt Disney Animation Studios next film after Aladdin, but thought it was too dark and instead pushed it under their Touchstone logo and was extremely underperformed at box office and has since garnered a huge cult following so now it is under the Disney name. Even though it is a film produced by Burton and story by him it is directed by Henry Selick and Burton also produced one of Selick’s other Stop motion films James and the Giant Peach. The voice of Jack is Chris Saradon who was Prince Humperdinck in Princess Bride and his singing voice was the film’s songwriter Danny Elfman. The voice of Sally for both speaking and singing was Catherine O’ Hara. The voice of Dr. Finklestein was William Hickey who was Uncle Lewis who nearly set himself on fire in National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation.
Love this movie. A lot of people who watch this movie later in life ask 'how was this ever shown to kids? Its way too scary.' But I loved this movie as a kid. Oogie Boogie was and still is my favorite character. Imagine being so hardcore that in a town where they love scares, even they think Oogie should be avoided. Plus, I think this started my love for musicals. Jacks songs are just amazing. Oh and I heard at one point that Oogie was a pillow case to carry candy? Candy went bad, now it's full of bugs? Can't remember where I heard it and therefore have no idea if it's legit lol loved the reaction! Might watch this now.
"It's only an hour & 16 minutes long?" "Only" an hour & 16 minutes of *stop motion animation* took 3 years to make because every frame had to be hand animated in clay, Ashleigh.
Back when this originally came out my family went to Disney World and they had an exhibit of all the puppets and set pieces at MGM Studios (Hollywood Studios now but w/e) and I remember being fascinated by it. There was one display that was nothing but about a hundred different heads for Jack with different mouth shapes and facial expressions. I still can't wrap my head around how _tedious_ stop-motion animation is to produce.
Depending on what the frame rate of the movie is (animation often might use 16 FPS) this is between 72.960 (16 FPS) and 109.440 (24 FPS - cinema standard) individual frames. Not every frame is actual character animation and some are mixed with traditional cell animation but sill ... stop motion is hell of a lot of work. Also very error prone. Imagine if a light bulb breaks and the replacement has only a slightly different brightness value. You notice that immediately. Stop motion as a traditional art form seriously is a loooot of work. But also super beautiful if done right.
Thanks for being here. I needed a red hair fix. This is another Danny Elfman's music treasure. Poor Sally I can relate. Those Tim Burton snake worms were the under the stairs noise maker thingy. There might be a Zero stuffed animal available, they used to be a deal. The stop motion action used to take a long long long time because of the number of frames per second but, thanks to computers it now only takes a long time. I am a little disappointed that so many people think Sandy Claws is picking his nose or something. There once was this poem called "a visit from St Nicholas." We know it as "a night befuore Christmas". In the next to the last stanza it tells us ...and laying his finger aside of his nose, and giving a nod up the chimney he rose... A two faced politician? Nice work Tim. Glad you were able to share this with us. Now make some happy memories!
"And laying his finger aside of his nose, And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;" This is a line from the poem A Visit from St. Nicholas a.k.a. 'Twas the Night Before Christmas to explain how fat Santa Claus got back up the chimney after delivering the presents.
Saw this one many years ago, was surprised that I'd forgotten most of it. Great job. Was worried about you through all the tornado news; glad to see you're okay.
Fish girl is an homage to a 1950s movie monster, The Creature From the Black Lagoon. The monster, we assume, is a male in the original movie (he kidnaps a female) . The movie had a sequel too.
@@JustPlayTheGame76 Mebbe? I have only seen two. If there were more they were likely terrible films. So bad, even local tv didnt grab them back in the day.
@@michaelgonzalez6295 From Wikipedia: "Creature from the Black Lagoon spawned two sequels: Revenge of the Creature (1955), which was also filmed and released in 3D in hopes of reviving the format, and The Creature Walks Among Us (1956), filmed in 2D. A comedic appearance with Abbott and Costello on an episode of The Colgate Comedy Hour aired prior to the film's release. The appearance is commonly known as Abbott and Costello Meet the Creature from the Black Lagoon." So there is that. lol
PS: It isn't that Sally is "afraid" to talk to Jack. It is that she is someone who is kind of "shy" in regards to expressing her feelings because of the fact that she has been living with an overbearing "father figure" who has gone out of his way to "shelter her" from the rest of the town as much as possible. Think of Sally more as the "shy and innocent" girl more than anything else, which means being "open" with someone is extremely difficult for her. Also: On a fun note. It was the part of the parents coming into the room and asking what Santa gave the kid, only to have him open the box and pull out a shrunk head that made me laugh so much that I HAD to see the movie. I took my mom with me as a special "night out" with my mom, and while I enjoyed the movie, my mom kind of didn't. Not for SEVERAL years later when the soundtrack was in my car due to my little girl loving the songs, at which point my mom asked WHERE the songs came from. I had my mom and daughter watch the movie together, and my daughter (who was 3 at the time) was standing in the middle of the living room at my mom's place belting out every song along with the movie. From that point on, this movie became one of my mom's "traditional year showing". So, I've seen this movie at least once a year for the last 13 years now.
19:55 Ashleigh: "Did he just blow his nose?" Ashleigh, it's from the poem, 'Twas the NIght Before Christmas'. Santa does the following: "...He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work, Filled all the stockings; then turned with a jerk, Laid his finger aside of his nose, Giving a nod, up the chimney he rose." The title of this movie is "The NIghtmare Before Christmas" which is a variation of 'Twas the NIght Before Christmas'...
This along with many of the other movies you've seen (Aliens, Home Alone, Ghostbusters) are in a Netflix show called "The Movies That Made Us". It's a behind the scenes about how the movies were made along with interviews with actors, producers, special effects people, ect. Highly recommend!!
The mayor is a two faced politician, that's why he has the two heads. And the mermaid creature is a riff on the Creature from the Black Lagoon, a classic movie monster. Since you loved this movie, you should delve into the other wonders of stop motion! The best of them are the films by Laika, but they're rather recent movies... although Corpse Bride would make a great addition to next years HalloBeans!
I think Wes Anderson made an excellent job of it on Fantastic Mr Fox (still haven’t had a chance to see Isle of Dogs yet! 😭) and the Wallace & Gromit films are always a delight.
This movie gave birth to the Lakia animation studios. Fun fact is that the mad scientist in this movie is voiced by the old man with the toupee from Christmas Vacation.
Ashley: That tree has skeletons in it that are hung…. Me: I guess you can say they’re…big boned! Also I feel like by her expression after she said that she realized what she said and decided to just move on. 😆
This movie is a favorite of me and my sister. My dad took us to go see it back in 1993 when we were 16 and 14 and it stayed with us for years we’re still into it
It takes a very long time to shoot just one scene. For Jack alone they had several briefcases full of different facial expressions, eye lids, etc. The behind the scenes is worth a watch. It's probably on RUclips somewhere
There is also an episode about it on the series "The Movies That Made Us" on Netflix. It's a great series in general, but this particular episode is really interesting because of the process of making the movie.
I saw an exhibit of all the puppets and set pieces at MGM Studios back when the movie originally released and one of the displays was all of those divided trays of just Jack's heads with all the different expressions and mouth shapes. The dedication it takes to do stop motion animation is mind boggling.
19:55 it's from the Santa Poem "He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work, And filled all the stockings; then turned with a jerk, And laying his finger aside of his *nose*, And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose; He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle, And away they all flew like the down of a thistle. But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight-" “Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good night!”
Another great Xmas movie would be Edward Scissorhands!! Tim Burton and Johnny Depp, it's so wholesome but so sad. It's probably before Tim Burton's touch became a little too much.
So, there was an album called "Nightmare Revisited" (2008) that got a bunch of famous groups to cover the soundtrack. Amy Lee of Evanescence did Sally's Song. Marilyn Manson did This is Halloween Korn did Kidnap the Sandy Claws You'd love it.
So now you have to react to “Edward Scissorhands”. No animation or songs, but still has that Tim Burton ‘vibe’. In fact, it’s probably the most refined version of his vibe. He’s said in interviews that it’s the most autobiographical of all his movies. And like “Nightmare Before Christmas”, it could arguably be appropriate for both Christmas or Hallowe’en (or anytime for that matter).
And since nobody is reacting to the very underrated Sleepy Hollow, maybe Ashleigh would? Too bad we'll probably have to wait till next HalloBeans for that.
@@vasilip Yes! I was about to recommend the same movie - definitely curious to see what her reaction would be. Also, as others have mentioned - Edward Scissorhands is a must!
Burton is almost an icon in himself. Among his movies: "Edward Scissorhands," "Batman" (the Michael Keaton version), "Batman Forever," "Beetlejuice," "James and the Giant Peach" (based on a book by the author of Willie Wonka movie you recently reviewed), "Frankenweenie," (where a boy loses his dog and brings it back to life ala Frankenstein) "The Corpse Bride", "Mars Attacks!" (which was based upon a series of SciFi bubble gum trading cards) and "Alice in Wonderland." (Johnny Depp played the Mad Hatter and Helena Bonham Carter the Red Queen.) He has made extensive use of stop action animation and his movies tend to the bizarre but a laundry list of major actors have appeared in his films. Many of his films would fit into Halloween. Very very gothic.
I do have to say, Nightmare Before Christmas is one of my favorite movies. The music is profound and the concept had never been thought of. Not to mention it took several years to even get it on the big screen. Not to mention, Catherine O'Hara was Sally I know you love her!
Love this movie, love the songs, have sung a few. Claymation is specifically stop-motion animation with clay figures, this is made with puppets but the basic technique is the same. And since there's 1,440 frames in one minute and 86,400 frames in one hour of movie (at 24 fps) it takes a looong time and a lot of patience. 🙂
10:43 Old school animation (not CGI) uses 24 frames per second. So for every second of finished film, there were 24 separate adjustments for the movable characters, etc. So a long time. :-D
24 frames is the classic and widely adopted motion picture frame rate (before digital tried out 48 and more, which changes the look of the film.) But often the frame count in animation was reduced to 12 per second. That makes the animation a little more janky, but is sometimes used intentionally as a style choice (e.g. made partly in "Into the Spider-verse")
@@rmhartman Yes, but that makes 12 moves for the puppets, as I just explained. So the *animation* is at 12 fps movie fps ≠ animation fps ruclips.net/video/oQUwdLrPBpQ/видео.html
I love the message you got out of this. Not something I would have picked up on, mainly because I saw it as a child and have so much nostalgia for it that I can't see past that. But I love that as a message to take away from it and will absolutely be mentioning that the next time I talk about this film to anyone! Thank you!
Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure was directed by Tim Burton, it’s a perfect mix of Paul Reubens and Tim Burton genius! Catherine O’Hara voiced Sally in this film and Paul Reubens voiced Lock🎄🎃🎄
"So she can just lose her limb on a...whim?" I feel like that was a missed opportunity that I can hear you saying :D I'm just ribbin' love the channel and happy Jingle Beans!
back in 87 there was the claymation animation Christmas special too!!!!! Not to mention several Christmas themed holiday specials like Santa claus is coming to town, all made to the late 60s and early 70s
Chestnuts are real, they're found in green spikey balls and fall out of trees, typically collected by people in the autumn and then roasted, they're quite sweet
I have never seen this either. I watched your review first to see if it was something I could watch and now I’m going to watch it! Also, your advice to Sally about men, on point!
Best line in the movie: Mayor, "Jack, you know I can't make decisions. I'm an elected official." So true. 🤣 In the peom, "The Night Before Christmas"' it has a verse. "And laying his finger aside of his nose, And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose." Danny Elfman is a musical genius. ✌️♥️🌹
Another great Christmas movie in which a Skeleton plays the role of Santa is the 'Hogfather' from 2006. Death takes the job, including false beard & a pillow under his robe, but he does give better presents. Including a castle with a drawbridge, lots of soldiers, a real sword, pants that a little boy doesn't have to share, & a puppy named Scraps.
LOL, that was a great reaction! When we were little here in the USA (and still using our Cuban customs) we would write our Christmas wish list on notes and put them in our shoes. We then set them out on the window sill for the Three Kings when they came by. Eventually when we adopted the American custom, we freaked out because we didn't have a chimney!
It took one week to animate a whole minute of film. They made two systems that made the filming easier. The first was a system which warned if a light would fail to come on to prevent a shot from being ruined. The second was that they made mulitple copies of a puppet, not only to be used on different sets to speed up the filming but to have spares in case a puppet would break in the middle of the shooting, so the broken one could be repaired without halting the shoot.
7:24 "What is a chestnut are they real?" Now that's a real Ashleigh moment. To be fair, roasting chestnuts on a fire around Christmas ceased to be an American tradition since the blight killed most of the trees after 1900, but it is still very much alive in Europe. Kinda fitting that Christmas land celebrates an idealized version of the festival that doesn't exist anymore.
I'm from Europe and I can confirm, chestnuts are a thing, they are pretty widespread, they are delicious and you can cook them in many ways besides roasting. The only thing is, you can't usually find them in the grocery stores and people around where I live have pretty much lost their gathering skills. On the bright side I have very little competition when gathering them.
The roasted chestnut vendors were out in the main shopping street of Reading, the English town I was shopping in last weekend. Definitely easy to find at this time of year.
16:20 My thoughts exactly. I've often thought of how many girls might have been interested in me in the past but the opportunity was missed because they didn't speak up.
The fish person was a reference to the gill-man, the creature from the classic horror movie The Creature From the Black Lagoon. You should watch that. Oogie Boogie was the Boogeyman. Another awesome reaction Ashleigh, thank you for reacting to this awesome movie.
I'm so glad you finally got to see this movie, Ashleigh! I'm also glad you loved it! This is a favourite from my childhood, I remember when it came out. I was 5 and I'd never seen anything like it before. I was obsessed with it for years like your friend Max. I was especially obsessed with singing "Sally's Song", which now makes total sense given my gender identity, and it really has stood the test of time. Can't wait for you to see "Grumpy Old Men" and "Miracle on 34th Street"!
Ashleigh I very much enjoy your channel. (And “talk to you” as you watch these films.) this is the earliest response I’ve ever been able to get so I wanted to comment on everything and help you stay educated and informed. ☺️ Tim Burton created the concept art in the story years before the movie was made. But he did not actually direct it which is why it looks like a Tim Burton movie but doesn’t feel like a Tim Burton movie. The fish lady in the water is a female version of the creature from the Black Lagoon. (It’s one of the classic movie monsters like Dracula) Sally is a Rag Doll. Before the industrial revolution poor little girls had dolls made from whatever scraps of fabric the family could scrounge together. The backstory between Oogie & Jack is he tried to take over Halloween before but Jack defeated him to make it safe for children which is why Lock, Shock, and Barrel are trick-or-treaters and still “work” for him. he’s allowed to live in Halloween town but outside of town technically exiled. In the original Christmas story poem Santa Claus touches the side of his nose (which is a British thing of knowing a secret code if you will.) But that allows him to fly through the chimney. Also it took 3 years to make this classic. 🥰
There's a line in Oogie Boogie's song "I'm gonna do the best I can" that's a direct reference to a 1933 Betty Boop cartoon, "The Old Man of the Mountain", where it precedes the dance number by the creepy title character of that cartoon (who is voiced by Cab Calloway, whom you saw in The Blues Brothers). Definitely check it out on RUclips if you've got a spare seven minutes.
You should add “Batman Returns” to your list… it’s Tim Burton and it takes place during Christmas. My personal favorite Batman movie and you already did a reaction to the first one. As always, love your content! 🧡
Well this was a nice surprise. Just got in from aerial hoop where we are doing a routine to what's this from this movie. I already have my costume ready for it which is half jack half Sally.
One that’s on my must watch list for Christmas every year. Certainly, some of the best music that Danny Elfman has composed, if not his best. Oogie Boogie remains my favorite character of the film. I still don’t know how I didn’t ruin the VHS tape from watching it over and over again when I was a kid.
@@Beltzer0072 His score for both Batman and Batman Returns are personal favorites as well. I also really love his work in Sleepy Hollow. I largely favor his work in Nightmare for sentimental reasons.
10:41 According to the DVD's making of feature, it took them one whole WEEK to animate one whole MINUTE. So, it took well over a year just to animate this movie!
According to the Making Of video - 1 minute of action took 1 week to animate - movie took 3+ years to finish. The facial expressions for the main characters were actually different heads popped on & off.; Jack had 400 heads. Stop motion using dolls built on frames where the joints can be moved. Not claymation
When Jack's sleigh gets hit by the cannons and he falls half conscious shouting "Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!" I know it's meant to be shocking but I just so hard everytime.😂
This used to come on PPV and I'd listen to the movie with a scrambled picture and sing along. This one also falls more Hallobeans than Jinglebeans for me. Also, Catherine O'Hara (Home Alone, Beetlejuice) as Sally. Thanks for this!
I love how 'Evanescence' is considered emo for the 2000s. (no hate on Evanescence or Amy Lee because I love them), but Nine inch Nails and Stabbing Westward would like to have a word when it comes to Emo/Goth scene stuff.
Back in 1993 when this opened my friends and I went to see it and enjoyed it so much when it was over we purchased tickets for the next showing. I've been collecting merchandise for this one for 28 years now and I don't plan on stopping soon.
This is my sister's favorite movie! And it's one of my favorite films as well. It was nominated for Best Visual Effects but lost to JURASSIC PARK. It made $90 million dollars against a $13 million dollar budget, and it's now Considered a cult classic for Halloween or Christmas.
Hi, Ashleigh! This is one of my favorite Christmas movies. Did you notice that while Jack THOUGHT he needed to have Christmas in his life, what he REALLY needed, only Sally could give him at the end? I love this movie...
ALSO, Tim Burton was heavily influenced by German Expressionism (1920 style), which focuses on off-kilter shapes, light-and-dark contrasts, and strong contrasting lines (see Beetlejuice's and Jack's suits, the sandworms and related critters)
Dr Finklestein is voiced by William Hickey (Uncle Lewis in Christmas Vacation and Aunt Bethany's actress voiced Betty Boop) this film took 3.5 years to make
I discovered your channel today and subscribed after one video. You are a delight and I look forward to going through your back catalogue. Keep up the good work!
Since you recently watched Christmas Vacation, you may be interested to know that the Dr Finkelstein/Scientist is voiced by Uncle Lewis (the cantankerous old man with the toupee)
The "fish woman" is a type of monster called a Gill-man. It was most famously represented in a movie from the 50s called "The Creature From the Black Lagoon". Oogie Boogie is a Boogieman. (Also called the Sackman in some European countries. ) There are many varying depictions carrying a sack to spirit away children. They simply combined them and made him the literal Sackman in this case.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time. Many people I know don’t understand this movie. Does everyone want to try a different thing instead of doing the same thing all the time? My favorite characters are Locke, Shock and Barrel. Such naughty kids ❤️
Since you asked what Boogie's deal was... There was a few last minute script changes because the Mad Scientist/Doctor guy was suppose to be the villain... then Tim accidentally broke the stage/set and it would have taken too much time/money to build another/repair it... so they made up a new villain (Boogie) with an easier design/stage. I think they had to scale that set up though but I could be wrong.
Of Tim Burton's movies, I, for some reason, enjoyed Pee Wee's Big Adventure the most. Trivia - the brief part of the biker mama toward the end of that movie is played by a red-headed Cassandra Peterson...who also plays Elvira. Cassandra Peterson is a long time friend of Pee Wee Herman (Paul Reubens).
I love rewatching movies through your eyes. Specific favourite Steel Magnolias. Also Fried Green Tomatoes. Please keep doing what you do. Have an amazing Christmas.
1) The Mayor, in addition to being a two faced politician, as someone else pointed out in the comments (brilliant by the way). The Mayor is also supposed to be a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde type character. 2) The fishy thing is supposed to be a Creature from the Black Lagoon type character. 3) Santa did NOT blow his nose to escape. (Really?) Here is a line from the classic poem Twas The Night Before Christmas (which this movie is named after). This classic poem is about Santa Clause visiting a home. This line is just as Santa is leaving..."And laying his finger aside of his nose, and giving a nod, up the chimney he rose." 4) And Oogie Boogie was the Boogie Man. 5) Oogie Boogie was afraid of Jack because centuries ago Oogie found Halloween Town and tried to make it Bug Town. Jack found out, battled and defeated Oogie and was crowned The Pumpkin King. Jack banished Oogie to that lower realm.
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'Is Oogie Boogie, like, the worst in this town?'
Probably my favorite line in this movie comes from the song 'This Is Halloween.' In (I think) the second bridge, they sing 'Tender lumplings everywhere, life's no fun without a good scare. That's our job, but we're not mean, in our town of Halloween.' It's a mission statement. Halloween Town is about the visceral, adrenaline-rush thrill of being scared, not fear and terror for the cause of misery. It's all about the fun of a horror movie or roller coaster. Oogie is different. He maliciously enjoys the pain and terror he causes. That's why he's an outcast.
Some awesome covers for oogie boogie man , from some of the best vocalists on the planet
but when push comes to shove, jack has no reservations with dealing a killing blow.
@@VergilArcanis There's very little as dangerous as a good man (or skeleton) pushed too far.
And in case it wasn't clear in the film, Oogie Boogie's the LITERAL Boogie Man. 😏😉
I love this take
Chestnuts are totally real. They used to be extremely common in the US, and were even a staple food. People collected them in the fall and ate them all through the year, and tons of furniture and houses were made of chestnut wood. Every Christmas season up until the 1950's, it was common to see vendors selling bags of hot roasted chestnuts on the street. But around 1900, a fungus from Asia got accidentally introduced into the chestnut population, and it wiped out about 99.9% of all the chestnut trees in America. Some have survived though and the species is slowly being brought back to how it used to be.
Also, roasted chestnuts are absolutely delicious 🌰🔥
@@SarahRichardsGraba Roast chestnuts are a big deal in England. Buy them from a street dealer in London.
I appreciate your facts!! (: super interesting, actually just learned about it in my ecology class this semester
10/10 most interesting and informative comment I’ve ever read on RUclips. Definitely googling chestnuts now.
You should also learn the difference between chestnuts and buckeyes. Buckeyes are toxic and if enough are eaten they can kill you 🤪. They look very similar. We actually had a chestnut tree in our yard and I would eat them all the time. I never tried roasting them though I feel like I missed out.
The Mayor is a "two-faced politician", someone else already commented about the Creature from the Black Lagoon, and another pointed out Santa's exit is from Clement Clarke Moore's poem. I also wanted to point out that the things which shot at Jack were slot machines - aka one-armed bandits. Skellington is a term from England - it's a child's way of saying skeleton. Another reactor was surprised about the military mobilizing on "Santa" but IRL there's the NORAD Santa Tracker every year, lol.
Somewhere in NORAD there is one guy going: "This is the year. This time we get that reindeer terrorist!"
Actually, most of us at the time assumed the Mayor was Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
Wow, didn't know that's where his name came from.....a true fun fact!
I always said "Skelitee," which I still say sometimes. : )
You serious, Clark? -Cousin Eddie
Henry Selick was the one who directed this movie. He's an extremely talented stop-motion animator who also directed _James and the Giant Peach_ , and _Coraline_ . It was based on a poem Tim Burton wrote (as well as illustrated).
Coraline is whack... in a good way
Coralline is a great movie
Interesting to note, Chris Sarandon, "Prince Humperdinck" from "The Princess Bride" is the voice of Jack Skellington when he speaks, and Danny Elfman is the voice of Jack when he sings. Both very deep in character, and just wonderful performances.
Chris Sarandon also played Jerry Dandridge in the original Fright Night.
neat!
Danny Elfman also did Lock or Barrel, and Pee Wee Herman did the other. Catherine O'Hara did Sally and Shock.
@@worldtourmaster Yes but Ashleigh hasn't covered that yet. I assume the OP only mentioned Princess Bride because she has seen that.
Imma need a Jack Skellington rendition of "Weird Science".
16:47 “I made the first move on Hubben, and now we married!”
Me too, Ashleigh! My ‘Hubben’ was my boss. Every time he left the room, I would go and place a candy kiss on his desk. Took him a while to figure who it was, and seemed forever for him to respond. He finally said to me “I bet these don’t taste as good as the real ones.” I told him that it wasn’t my fault that he didn’t know that truth.
It’ll be 29 years next year.
Yeah, I don't think most dudes, especially me, would pick up on that. I would just think "oo a piece of candy"
@@NathanS__ it's modern culture breeding that out of us. Used to be how things were done, by either side. Little hints and flirtations. Women made the first move a lot more often. Stuff like dropping a handkerchief in front of a man giving him the chance to return it and spark a conversation, for example. Nowadays with how woke everyone seems to be, something like leaving chocolates like that could be considered stalking or unwanted even sexual harassment due to the nature of the name of the candy... Sad.
@@spud69g You can't even just say hello to a woman anymore without her crying rape. I honestly have no idea how couples do it, because I don't have a clue about meeting women
@@SamuelBlack84 Is the world's population finally declining then?
@@spud69g Or is it us that's breeding modern culture?
From - Twas the Night Before Christmas:
"And laying a finger aside of his nose,
and giving a nod up the chimney he rose!"
It's one of Santa's OG abilities.
You gotta love when someone respects the lore of a character they are borrowing.
The thing is, that "finger on the nose" gesture has come to be associated with St.Nick going up the chimney thanks to that single verse in that poem, but that was not the original intention.
The intention was not that touching his nose was his magic gesture to rise up chimneys. Putting a finger on your nose was (and remains, among some folks) a gesture of secrecy, taking someone into your confidence, "This is between us, know what I mean? Don't tell anyone." (Which of course the author does by writing the poem.) It's like a thumbs up, or a peace sign, or The Finger, or putting your finger in front of your lips to mean "quiet": it's a hand gesture with an established meaning among the people of that time and place. It was coincidentally the last thing St.Nick "said" before he went up the chimney of his own volition.
But now, thanks to that verse in that poem, many people who have no reference for "a finger on the nose is a gesture of knowing secrecy" assume that it's St.Nick's "this is how I go up the chimney" magic thing. Funny how little things can take on such different meanings, through time...
Jack's singing voice was done by Danny Elfman, Sally was voiced by Catherine O'Hara, Lock was voiced by Paul Reubens (Pee Wee Herman) and Dr. Finkelstein was voiced by William Hickey, who was Uncle Lewis in Christmas Vacation.
William Hickey was also in The Producers. He's the guy in the bar when Bialystock and Bloom sneak out during the show.
@@utility63 Yup, I did know that. But I thought it might be a bit obscure to mention to Ashleigh. I'm not sure if she'd have recalled him from when she reacted to it.
Love Oingo Boingo.
Elfman, created the Simpsons theme and the 89 Batman theme…I think he did the them to Pee Wees Big Adventure too…which Burton also directed
By chance do you listen to Wizard and the Bruzer?
Chestnut trees used to be huge in the US. As a food source, chestnuts were almost used as much as corn. In the early 1900s there was a fungus unintentionally introduced from Asia that wipes nearly all of them out. When old timey Christmas songs were being written during the mid-century, it was from the point of view of people that still enjoyed them which is why we still hear about em in songs.
I believe you, but chestnuts are definitely still around and still a thing. I assure you- go to nearly any food cart in midtown NYC at Christmas time and they are selling roasted chestnuts.
Do you not have chestnuts in US at all anymore? We still eat them here in europe for fall and christmas.
@@mettehansen9754 We get imported Chestnuts, and I think there may be one or two in a conservatory, but the tree is practically extinct in North America
Chestnuts are still available, but kind of disappointing in the flesh. If you roast chestnuts, make sure you poke a hole in them first, or they'll explode.
Chestnuts were popular in Korea during the 1990s when I was there.
I find it fascinating how Ashleigh has a hard time comprehending a classic monster like the Creature from the Black Lagoon when there's infinitely more bewildering characters like the Harlequin Demon
The CFTBL reboot has been shelved more times than anyone can count. I for one would love to see this particular "monster" get a new big screen debut.
She seems to have a problem comprehending a lot on the channel, like the idea that superheroes have rogues galleries.
Ashleigh: "That man has two faces."
Me: "I mean he IS a politician after all" *shrug*
THANK YOU.
"So this girl can just lose her limbs on a will?"
No, she loses her limbs on a whim.
Edward Scissorhands is among Burton's greatest films. Not all of Burton's work is good. His early stuff is by far his best. But a lot of that early stuff is gold.
Someone once said about Tim Burton's career that the first half of it was mostly films that on paper shouldn't have worked but did, and the latter half is mostly films that on paper should have worked but didn't. I can get behind that to a degree.
His Batman is still my favorite!
That should take care of the Emo thing for Valentines.
Pee wees big adventure
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This is my 5 year old's favorite movie and she would like to inform you that Sally is a "Frankenstein scarecrow". Also, she says "Happy Beans!"
"The Corpse Bride" is a great Tim Burton film with a similar vibe, and is also in stop-motion animation. I used to double-feature the two movies for Halloween.
@Darrel Rogers I've only seen the original short film; I forgot he did a full-length version of it.
Also "9".
Coraline, though not Burton (I think?), is spiritually a very Burton-esque film.
this ain' a burton movie
I like how in the extras on The Corpse Bride" they show how the gears for changi g the faces were accessed tjrough sticking the tool in the ears. Clever, but appropriately creepy, too. I also liked the 2 piano pieces they did & wanted longer versions.
Does it have a striped snake in it?
This wasn't your only Tim Burton film besides Beetlejuice. You watched Keaton and Nicholson in Batman and you've seen Ed Wood. You should definitely add Burton's films The Corpse Bride and Edward Scissorhands to your list.
And don't miss the first (and best imo) Burton film - Pee Wee's Big Adventure.
I’ve seen four reactions to this movie this past week and all four of them didn’t understand the Santa Claus flying away bit. In the story The Night Before Christmas, when Santa was done putting the presents under the tree, he “put his finger on the side of his nose and up the chimney he rose.” Apparently nobody was read the story as a kid in the last 30 years. And that’s very upsetting! Anyway, I’m glad you liked it! 💙💙💙
I thought the same thing.
I used to read it every Christmas to my kids, prob could still remember every verse lol
That is a magical ability in folklore in some countries that magical being royals have. Meaning some countries see Santa Claus as like the King of the North Pole and the residents are his subjects. People also are confused by this in Labyrinth and think it is a drug reference. It is not a drug reference. It indicates that Jarith is the Goblin King and has some magical abilities he can use like this. Think of it as a reminder of his power to his subjects in that moment.
There’s also a myth that he needs his hat to be able to do that and Jack had his hat
@@Michelle_Kemp to be fair, Santa is a myth himself and new stories can spin it however they want.
Ashley is officially the best reactor on the internet. The fact that she made this so entertaining with almost no audio from a musical is amazing. Pure talent.
I really dislike the fact that she didn't only silenced all the songs (there are many reactions to this movie that take the time to edit at least some tiny bits of the songs) but also so much from the dialogue. So I can't agree with you on that.
@@disobedientdolphin no problem. I think your point is valid. My statement stands as is.
@@disobedientdolphinTo be fair, RUclips's copyright can be a bitch.
Ehhh... There's a reason why I unsubbed from Ashleigh. A couple reasons actually.
It's wild that this one movie makes up like a HUGE bulk of Hot Topic's inventory.
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Burton used to be a Disney animator, forced to draw happy toons for years.
It's fitting that his rebellion when he became independent consisted to draw the same toons with a frown.
Just like teenagers rebel by becoming goths dressed in black. Both display a safe and innocuous rebellion accepted and even branded by the Machine.
Hahahahaha facts I have some items lmao 🤣
Is it? Is it wild??
As it should be 🤣
It's weird that Tim Burton didn't direct it, almost everybody thinks he did...I certainly thought that for years. He absolutely influenced the look and vibe of the movie as the writer/producer for certain. It was actually directed by Henry Selick, probably because Burton never directed feature length animation projects of this size before. What I love about the movie is that Danny Elfman was the voice for the songs for Jack, the speaking parts were done by another actor. Danny Elfman was the lead singer of the the band Oingo Boingo, and has written nearly every soundtrack for Tim Burton movies...his best being Batman '89 IMHO
The speaking voice was Chris Sarandon (Prince Humperdink- Princess Bride, Jerry-Fright Night), also semi related it’s fun to know that Princess Buttercup later went on to be the most evil movie villain ever (Jenny- Forrest Gump),
@@crazyhorsecavdoc4916 Jenny from Forest Gump, aka "child molested by her father who spent years of her life dealing with her childhood trauma with drugs and almost jumping off a building because she's suffering so much"... That's the most evil movie villain ever in your eyes?
I swear, Tom Hanks is so damn likeable in that role that people instinctively hate anyone that hurts his feelings, no matter how good a reason they have for acting the way they do. Jenny is one of the most tragic movie characters I've ever seen, especially since she is completely misunderstood by a large number of people who see that movie.
It's because the name would help with sales.
Although all this movie was based on a concept by Burton and with his total approval for all artistic decisions, Henry Selick is the real MVP of this production, he was the director of the movie and the one that deal with all the problems within it. He also directed Coraline, a fantastic movie based on Neil Gaiman's book.
Thank you. I came here to say this myself. Henry Selick has gotten the short end of the stick for ages because every film he does gets marketed as "From the creator of Nightmare Before Christmas" so everyone thinks that Tim Burton directed it, completely erasing his name from his hard work and attributing films to Burton that he had nothing to do with.
@@TheAbstruseOne all this happened becase in every poster made the title reads: Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas. So sure, it was his idea an designs, but all the direction and woarkload was pure Selick and he made a timeless classic.
I think it's fair to say that several key people contributed a great deal to the overall product. The fact that it's "Tim Burton's" Nightmare Before Christmas was just a marketing tactic that they liked to use during that time, I guess because they thought people wouldn't see the movie if they didn't attach a recognizable name to it. So you get things like "Bram Stoker's Dracula" or "William Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet". Obviously those movies were not directed by Bram Stoker or William Shakespeare. But Selick captures Burton's esthetic so well it's pretty forgivable that people are confused.
A lot of credit also goes to Danny Elfman for writing all of the amazing music, which also helped contribute many of the story beats and brings the whole concept together.
@@christopherlundgren1700 Oh there's a lot of people that were key and many have no clue about them. If you can there is a Netflix docuseries called The movies that made us, one of the episodes is about this movie, check it out, its very interesting.
Well, to be fair, Tim Burton did wrote the poem the whole concept was based on, and it's marketing 101, they use a big name to attract people to see a movie, specially a movie that was made in stop motion animation with a concept that nobody could've guessed would be such a hit. The only problem is that the man behind the wheels of this didn't get the recognition that should've been his. Of course this wasn't Burton's fault.
Danny Elfman did magic with this movie, amazing that it was his first music socre, right? And even sang the Jack Skellington songs.
@@jeanpaulmedellin Re: the score being his first, this didn't sound right to me, but it looks like as far as doing a full musical score for a film you might be correct. But before this he'd already composed quite a few memorable main themes for TV shows and movies.
He also fronted the New Wave band Oingo Boingo.
I just noticed at 5:18 her pupils dilate for a second while she’s looking at Jack (which is a real thing that happens when people look at someone they’re attracted to) which is a cool little detail!
Of course, it could just be their claymation version of the cartoonish eye-bulging but still.
"Tim Burton definitely has a vibe." ... Never have truer words been spoken. 😂
Facts
Most good directors have a vibe. Even when they don't direct, Burton only Produced this, you can tell they are associated with it.
Now she has to watch Batman (the seventies one)
@@brom00 Not just producer, he also wrote the story and created the characters.
@@rmhartman What 70s BATMAN? The TV show was the 60s. The Tim Burton Batman movie was 1989.
Chestnuts are very real. They come from Chestnut Trees, which were typically huge and Chestnuts were a Major part of the diet for a lot of Americans. Unfortunately, an invasive species/disease virtually wiped them out. There are a few trees left in the wild, and some people are attempting to re-populate the forests with them, but, ya-know, trees. They take a long time to grow and mature.
You have seen a few other Tim Burton films for the channel including:
Batman and Ed Wood.
Okay so to clarify a couple of this started as a poem by Tim Burton and Tim had worked as an animator for Disney since the 70’s and this film was set to be Walt Disney Animation Studios next film after Aladdin, but thought it was too dark and instead pushed it under their Touchstone logo and was extremely underperformed at box office and has since garnered a huge cult following so now it is under the Disney name.
Even though it is a film produced by Burton and story by him it is directed by Henry Selick and Burton also produced one of Selick’s other Stop motion films James and the Giant Peach.
The voice of Jack is Chris Saradon who was Prince Humperdinck in Princess Bride and his singing voice was the film’s songwriter Danny Elfman.
The voice of Sally for both speaking and singing was Catherine O’ Hara.
The voice of Dr. Finklestein was William Hickey who was Uncle Lewis who nearly set himself on fire in National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation.
(singing)I've got too much, time on my hands. (normal voice)All seriousness, good connect the stars to the film sun.
I had to laugh when I read "Batman and Ed Wood". Thinking that it would have to be more interesting than "Batman and Robin" was.
James and the Giant Peach
Definite must watch
@@taun856 "Robin, get into your costume. No, not the pink cashmere..."
@@utility63 Lol, exactly what I was thinking.
Love this movie. A lot of people who watch this movie later in life ask 'how was this ever shown to kids? Its way too scary.' But I loved this movie as a kid. Oogie Boogie was and still is my favorite character. Imagine being so hardcore that in a town where they love scares, even they think Oogie should be avoided. Plus, I think this started my love for musicals. Jacks songs are just amazing. Oh and I heard at one point that Oogie was a pillow case to carry candy? Candy went bad, now it's full of bugs? Can't remember where I heard it and therefore have no idea if it's legit lol loved the reaction! Might watch this now.
"It's only an hour & 16 minutes long?"
"Only" an hour & 16 minutes of *stop motion animation* took 3 years to make because every frame had to be hand animated in clay, Ashleigh.
Back when this originally came out my family went to Disney World and they had an exhibit of all the puppets and set pieces at MGM Studios (Hollywood Studios now but w/e) and I remember being fascinated by it. There was one display that was nothing but about a hundred different heads for Jack with different mouth shapes and facial expressions. I still can't wrap my head around how _tedious_ stop-motion animation is to produce.
Depending on what the frame rate of the movie is (animation often might use 16 FPS) this is between 72.960 (16 FPS) and 109.440 (24 FPS - cinema standard) individual frames. Not every frame is actual character animation and some are mixed with traditional cell animation but sill ... stop motion is hell of a lot of work. Also very error prone. Imagine if a light bulb breaks and the replacement has only a slightly different brightness value. You notice that immediately.
Stop motion as a traditional art form seriously is a loooot of work. But also super beautiful if done right.
Thanks for being here. I needed a red hair fix. This is another Danny Elfman's music treasure. Poor Sally I can relate. Those Tim Burton snake worms were the under the stairs noise maker thingy. There might be a Zero stuffed animal available, they used to be a deal. The stop motion action used to take a long long long time because of the number of frames per second but, thanks to computers it now only takes a long time. I am a little disappointed that so many people think Sandy Claws is picking his nose or something. There once was this poem called "a visit from St Nicholas." We know it as "a night befuore Christmas". In the next to the last stanza it tells us ...and laying his finger aside of his nose, and giving a nod up the chimney he rose... A two faced politician? Nice work Tim. Glad you were able to share this with us. Now make some happy memories!
"And laying his finger aside of his nose, And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;" This is a line from the poem A Visit from St. Nicholas a.k.a. 'Twas the Night Before Christmas to explain how fat Santa Claus got back up the chimney after delivering the presents.
Saw this one many years ago, was surprised that I'd forgotten most of it. Great job. Was worried about you through all the tornado news; glad to see you're okay.
Fish girl is an homage to a 1950s movie monster, The Creature From the Black Lagoon. The monster, we assume, is a male in the original movie (he kidnaps a female) . The movie had a sequel too.
Didnt they make two or three other Creature movies?
@@JustPlayTheGame76 three total. He also appears in The Monster Squad. And Shape of Water basically has the same creature
@@JustPlayTheGame76 Mebbe? I have only seen two. If there were more they were likely terrible films. So bad, even local tv didnt grab them back in the day.
@@michaelgonzalez6295 From Wikipedia: "Creature from the Black Lagoon spawned two sequels: Revenge of the Creature (1955), which was also filmed and released in 3D in hopes of reviving the format, and The Creature Walks Among Us (1956), filmed in 2D. A comedic appearance with Abbott and Costello on an episode of The Colgate Comedy Hour aired prior to the film's release. The appearance is commonly known as Abbott and Costello Meet the Creature from the Black Lagoon."
So there is that. lol
Little thing to watch for. You Clint Eastwood is in the sequel, Revenge of the Creature.
PS: It isn't that Sally is "afraid" to talk to Jack. It is that she is someone who is kind of "shy" in regards to expressing her feelings because of the fact that she has been living with an overbearing "father figure" who has gone out of his way to "shelter her" from the rest of the town as much as possible. Think of Sally more as the "shy and innocent" girl more than anything else, which means being "open" with someone is extremely difficult for her.
Also: On a fun note. It was the part of the parents coming into the room and asking what Santa gave the kid, only to have him open the box and pull out a shrunk head that made me laugh so much that I HAD to see the movie. I took my mom with me as a special "night out" with my mom, and while I enjoyed the movie, my mom kind of didn't. Not for SEVERAL years later when the soundtrack was in my car due to my little girl loving the songs, at which point my mom asked WHERE the songs came from. I had my mom and daughter watch the movie together, and my daughter (who was 3 at the time) was standing in the middle of the living room at my mom's place belting out every song along with the movie. From that point on, this movie became one of my mom's "traditional year showing". So, I've seen this movie at least once a year for the last 13 years now.
I always thought that fish-man thing was the creature from the black lagoon.
I saw this movie when it came out, I was 10-11. Absolutely loved it.
Yes, I thought the same thing. Creature From the Black Lagoon is another movie that Ashleigh should check out.
Ashleigh definitely needs to watch The Creature From The Black Lagoon (1954) and The Creature Walks Among Us (1956).
Yeah me too. It is Halloween 🎃
Tim Burton is such a fan of the classic Universal monsters...I'm sure its a not to "Creature From The Black Lagoon"
Came to the comments to say this
19:55 Ashleigh: "Did he just blow his nose?"
Ashleigh, it's from the poem, 'Twas the NIght Before Christmas'. Santa does the following: "...He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work, Filled all the stockings; then turned with a jerk, Laid his finger aside of his nose, Giving a nod, up the chimney he rose."
The title of this movie is "The NIghtmare Before Christmas" which is a variation of 'Twas the NIght Before Christmas'...
This along with many of the other movies you've seen (Aliens, Home Alone, Ghostbusters) are in a Netflix show called "The Movies That Made Us". It's a behind the scenes about how the movies were made along with interviews with actors, producers, special effects people, ect. Highly recommend!!
Yes
I love that series ☺ x
If no one mentioned it, I’m gonna say it: Catherine O Hara does the voice of Sally.
and Jack is Chris Sarandon who few years pryer to this was detective Norris who gunned down Charles Lee Ray
She was also the voice of Shock, one of the three that kidnapped Santa Claus.
The mayor is a two faced politician, that's why he has the two heads.
And the mermaid creature is a riff on the Creature from the Black Lagoon, a classic movie monster.
Since you loved this movie, you should delve into the other wonders of stop motion! The best of them are the films by Laika, but they're rather recent movies... although Corpse Bride would make a great addition to next years HalloBeans!
I think Wes Anderson made an excellent job of it on Fantastic Mr Fox (still haven’t had a chance to see Isle of Dogs yet! 😭) and the Wallace & Gromit films are always a delight.
This movie gave birth to the Lakia animation studios. Fun fact is that the mad scientist in this movie is voiced by the old man with the toupee from Christmas Vacation.
Not true, watch the mark twain video by saber spark. He goes into detail about what brought about them
@@punklover99 well this movie was made by same people that work with that animation studios
@@biguy617 yeah a lot of people work a lot of places, doesn't mean it was the start
Ashley: That tree has skeletons in it that are hung….
Me: I guess you can say they’re…big boned!
Also I feel like by her expression after she said that she realized what she said and decided to just move on. 😆
I'm surprised Disney allowed that in when they told them to censor Tim Burton's severed head near the end of the film.
"In the arms of the angel"...now THIS is the quality content I expect from this channel. Ashleigh girl - I love you!
has she watched City of angels or just knows the song from radio? If she has not seen it yet i would love to watch her react
It's bad enough hearing it in the commercial. I don't need it here too. 😉
This movie is a favorite of me and my sister.
My dad took us to go see it back in 1993 when we were 16 and 14 and it stayed with us for years we’re still into it
It takes a very long time to shoot just one scene. For Jack alone they had several briefcases full of different facial expressions, eye lids, etc. The behind the scenes is worth a watch. It's probably on RUclips somewhere
There is also an episode about it on the series "The Movies That Made Us" on Netflix. It's a great series in general, but this particular episode is really interesting because of the process of making the movie.
I saw an exhibit of all the puppets and set pieces at MGM Studios back when the movie originally released and one of the displays was all of those divided trays of just Jack's heads with all the different expressions and mouth shapes. The dedication it takes to do stop motion animation is mind boggling.
19:55 it's from the Santa Poem
"He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
And filled all the stockings; then turned with a jerk,
And laying his finger aside of his *nose*,
And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;
He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle,
And away they all flew like the down of a thistle.
But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight-"
“Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good night!”
Another great Xmas movie would be Edward Scissorhands!! Tim Burton and Johnny Depp, it's so wholesome but so sad. It's probably before Tim Burton's touch became a little too much.
Agree!
Yeah, before he started being "typecasted" by executive producers.
She really does have to do Edward Scissorhands. ✂️❤️👍
So, there was an album called "Nightmare Revisited" (2008) that got a bunch of famous groups to cover the soundtrack.
Amy Lee of Evanescence did Sally's Song.
Marilyn Manson did This is Halloween
Korn did Kidnap the Sandy Claws
You'd love it.
So now you have to react to “Edward Scissorhands”. No animation or songs, but still has that Tim Burton ‘vibe’. In fact, it’s probably the most refined version of his vibe. He’s said in interviews that it’s the most autobiographical of all his movies. And like “Nightmare Before Christmas”, it could arguably be appropriate for both Christmas or Hallowe’en (or anytime for that matter).
Also 'Mars Attacks!'
@@alanholck7995 I just had a dream about those aliens 😆.
ACK ACK ACK ACK
And since nobody is reacting to the very underrated Sleepy Hollow, maybe Ashleigh would? Too bad we'll probably have to wait till next HalloBeans for that.
@@vasilip Yes! I was about to recommend the same movie - definitely curious to see what her reaction would be. Also, as others have mentioned - Edward Scissorhands is a must!
Burton is almost an icon in himself. Among his movies: "Edward Scissorhands," "Batman" (the Michael Keaton version), "Batman Forever," "Beetlejuice," "James and the Giant Peach" (based on a book by the author of Willie Wonka movie you recently reviewed), "Frankenweenie," (where a boy loses his dog and brings it back to life ala Frankenstein) "The Corpse Bride", "Mars Attacks!" (which was based upon a series of SciFi bubble gum trading cards) and "Alice in Wonderland." (Johnny Depp played the Mad Hatter and Helena Bonham Carter the Red Queen.) He has made extensive use of stop action animation and his movies tend to the bizarre but a laundry list of major actors have appeared in his films. Many of his films would fit into Halloween. Very very gothic.
I do have to say, Nightmare Before Christmas is one of my favorite movies. The music is profound and the concept had never been thought of. Not to mention it took several years to even get it on the big screen. Not to mention, Catherine O'Hara was Sally I know you love her!
Love this movie, love the songs, have sung a few.
Claymation is specifically stop-motion animation with clay figures, this is made with puppets but the basic technique is the same. And since there's 1,440 frames in one minute and 86,400 frames in one hour of movie (at 24 fps) it takes a looong time and a lot of patience. 🙂
10:43 Old school animation (not CGI) uses 24 frames per second. So for every second of finished film, there were 24 separate adjustments for the movable characters, etc. So a long time. :-D
24 frames is the classic and widely adopted motion picture frame rate (before digital tried out 48 and more, which changes the look of the film.)
But often the frame count in animation was reduced to 12 per second.
That makes the animation a little more janky, but is sometimes used intentionally as a style choice (e.g. made partly in "Into the Spider-verse")
@@Cau_No it's still 24 fps, but they double up each frame
@@rmhartman Yes, but that makes 12 moves for the puppets, as I just explained. So the *animation* is at 12 fps
movie fps ≠ animation fps
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I love the message you got out of this. Not something I would have picked up on, mainly because I saw it as a child and have so much nostalgia for it that I can't see past that. But I love that as a message to take away from it and will absolutely be mentioning that the next time I talk about this film to anyone! Thank you!
Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure was directed by Tim Burton, it’s a perfect mix of Paul Reubens and Tim Burton genius!
Catherine O’Hara voiced Sally in this film and Paul Reubens voiced Lock🎄🎃🎄
dont forget, Catherine also voiced Shock. and Danny Elfman voiced Barrel :)
Pee-wee is also the voice of Lock, one of the kids
@@johngarardo7515 that's paul reubens (( just in case you didn't know his real name))
@@ElMundoDeHadesOK yes I did.
@@johngarardo7515 that's ok lol cuz the original poster did point that out :)
Never change Ashley this Intro was amazing.
You have to watch Edward Scissorhands. It's Tim Burton as well and it's one of those unofficial Christmas movies so it'll fit in perfectly. 🎄
Jack is the *KING* of Halloween. He's in charge. He's the leader. Their whole society revolves around him.
"So she can just lose her limb on a...whim?" I feel like that was a missed opportunity that I can hear you saying :D I'm just ribbin' love the channel and happy Jingle Beans!
ruclips.net/video/WrbxPW-sr74/видео.html yes may I ask what name of the movie in video opinion what year and genre is
Now that Ashleigh has gotten a taste of “clay-mation,” she should check out the Laika movies like Coraline and ParaNorman.
Or the original CLASH OF THE TITANS Harryhausen all the way
back in 87 there was the claymation animation Christmas special too!!!!! Not to mention several Christmas themed holiday specials like Santa claus is coming to town, all made to the late 60s and early 70s
Or Kubo and the Two Strings...
@@GaijinGuy36 I’m ashamed to have forgotten that movie…
Chestnuts are real, they're found in green spikey balls and fall out of trees, typically collected by people in the autumn and then roasted, they're quite sweet
Horse chestnuts look similar, including the spiky ball, but they are poisonous, just so people know.
Are those the same as hedge apples? I've seen those before
Squirrel's food as well
How does someone not know about chestnuts?
I have never seen this either. I watched your review first to see if it was something I could watch and now I’m going to watch it! Also, your advice to Sally about men, on point!
Best line in the movie: Mayor, "Jack, you know I can't make decisions. I'm an elected official." So true. 🤣
In the peom, "The Night Before Christmas"' it has a verse. "And laying his finger aside of his nose,
And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose."
Danny Elfman is a musical genius. ✌️♥️🌹
The Mayor is also two-faced 😉
As all politicians are. ✌️♥️🌹
Another great Christmas movie in which a Skeleton plays the role of Santa is the 'Hogfather' from 2006. Death takes the job, including false beard & a pillow under his robe, but he does give better presents. Including a castle with a drawbridge, lots of soldiers, a real sword, pants that a little boy doesn't have to share, & a puppy named Scraps.
LOL, that was a great reaction!
When we were little here in the USA (and still using our Cuban customs) we would write our Christmas wish list on notes and put them in our shoes. We then set them out on the window sill for the Three Kings when they came by. Eventually when we adopted the American custom, we freaked out because we didn't have a chimney!
It took one week to animate a whole minute of film. They made two systems that made the filming easier. The first was a system which warned if a light would fail to come on to prevent a shot from being ruined. The second was that they made mulitple copies of a puppet, not only to be used on different sets to speed up the filming but to have spares in case a puppet would break in the middle of the shooting, so the broken one could be repaired without halting the shoot.
7:24 "What is a chestnut are they real?"
Now that's a real Ashleigh moment.
To be fair, roasting chestnuts on a fire around Christmas ceased to be an American tradition since the blight killed most of the trees after 1900, but it is still very much alive in Europe.
Kinda fitting that Christmas land celebrates an idealized version of the festival that doesn't exist anymore.
I'm from Europe and I can confirm, chestnuts are a thing, they are pretty widespread, they are delicious and you can cook them in many ways besides roasting. The only thing is, you can't usually find them in the grocery stores and people around where I live have pretty much lost their gathering skills. On the bright side I have very little competition when gathering them.
The roasted chestnut vendors were out in the main shopping street of Reading, the English town I was shopping in last weekend. Definitely easy to find at this time of year.
16:20 My thoughts exactly. I've often thought of how many girls might have been interested in me in the past but the opportunity was missed because they didn't speak up.
The fish person was a reference to the gill-man, the creature from the classic horror movie The Creature From the Black Lagoon. You should watch that.
Oogie Boogie was the Boogeyman.
Another awesome reaction Ashleigh, thank you for reacting to this awesome movie.
I was gong to mention Creature from the Black Lagoon if no-one else did, thanks!
I'm so glad you finally got to see this movie, Ashleigh! I'm also glad you loved it! This is a favourite from my childhood, I remember when it came out. I was 5 and I'd never seen anything like it before. I was obsessed with it for years like your friend Max. I was especially obsessed with singing "Sally's Song", which now makes total sense given my gender identity, and it really has stood the test of time. Can't wait for you to see "Grumpy Old Men" and "Miracle on 34th Street"!
Santa's not blowing his nose, he's laying a finger aside his nose as he does in "A Visit From St. Nicholas."
Would that be another name for the story 'The Night Before Christmas'?
@@JakkFrost1 It's the actual name of the poem.
One of my holiday favorites, so glad you enjoyed it, this is one of those movies that is unforgettable, Happy Holidays everyone..
Ashleigh I very much enjoy your channel. (And “talk to you” as you watch these films.) this is the earliest response I’ve ever been able to get so I wanted to comment on everything and help you stay educated and informed. ☺️
Tim Burton created the concept art in the story years before the movie was made. But he did not actually direct it which is why it looks like a Tim Burton movie but doesn’t feel like a Tim Burton movie.
The fish lady in the water is a female version of the creature from the Black Lagoon. (It’s one of the classic movie monsters like Dracula)
Sally is a Rag Doll. Before the industrial revolution poor little girls had dolls made from whatever scraps of fabric the family could scrounge together.
The backstory between Oogie & Jack is he tried to take over Halloween before but Jack defeated him to make it safe for children which is why Lock, Shock, and Barrel are trick-or-treaters and still “work” for him. he’s allowed to live in Halloween town but outside of town technically exiled.
In the original Christmas story poem Santa Claus touches the side of his nose (which is a British thing of knowing a secret code if you will.) But that allows him to fly through the chimney.
Also it took 3 years to make this classic. 🥰
There's a line in Oogie Boogie's song "I'm gonna do the best I can" that's a direct reference to a 1933 Betty Boop cartoon, "The Old Man of the Mountain", where it precedes the dance number by the creepy title character of that cartoon (who is voiced by Cab Calloway, whom you saw in The Blues Brothers). Definitely check it out on RUclips if you've got a spare seven minutes.
You should add “Batman Returns” to your list… it’s Tim Burton and it takes place during Christmas. My personal favorite Batman movie and you already did a reaction to the first one. As always, love your content! 🧡
The only other pre-Nolan Batman movie worth seeing.
@@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy I think Batman & Robin is so bad, it needs to be seen
Yeah, its arguably better than the first movie.
@@Wiley_Coyote and I'm interested to see how she feels about Danny DeVito as Penguin
Well this was a nice surprise. Just got in from aerial hoop where we are doing a routine to what's this from this movie. I already have my costume ready for it which is half jack half Sally.
One that’s on my must watch list for Christmas every year. Certainly, some of the best music that Danny Elfman has composed, if not his best. Oogie Boogie remains my favorite character of the film. I still don’t know how I didn’t ruin the VHS tape from watching it over and over again when I was a kid.
Have you heard Rodrigo & Gabriela’s version of Oogie Boogie? Quite good.
@@bolasblancas420 I have. It's pretty good.
I still say Danny Elfman's Magnum Opus was Batman 1989. That score is so powerful it's hard to beat! I guess we could agree to disagree.
@@Beltzer0072 His score for both Batman and Batman Returns are personal favorites as well. I also really love his work in Sleepy Hollow. I largely favor his work in Nightmare for sentimental reasons.
10:41 According to the DVD's making of feature, it took them one whole WEEK to animate one whole MINUTE.
So, it took well over a year just to animate this movie!
According to the Making Of video - 1 minute of action took 1 week to animate - movie took 3+ years to finish. The facial expressions for the main characters were actually different heads popped on & off.; Jack had 400 heads. Stop motion using dolls built on frames where the joints can be moved. Not claymation
That drives me nuts when someone calls stuff like this,or the original King Kong "claymation".
When Jack's sleigh gets hit by the cannons and he falls half conscious shouting "Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!" I know it's meant to be shocking but I just so hard everytime.😂
This used to come on PPV and I'd listen to the movie with a scrambled picture and sing along. This one also falls more Hallobeans than Jinglebeans for me. Also, Catherine O'Hara (Home Alone, Beetlejuice) as Sally. Thanks for this!
I love how 'Evanescence' is considered emo for the 2000s. (no hate on Evanescence or Amy Lee because I love them), but Nine inch Nails and Stabbing Westward would like to have a word when it comes to Emo/Goth scene stuff.
I saw this in the theatre when it was released. Loved it then and now!!
"Nightmare Before Christmas" was what I watched in the theater as a first date with the woman who I've now been married to for 26 years.
Fun fact: Jack is voiced by the same guy who played prince Humperdink
But it's Danny elfman when singing
The non-singing parts, of course -- the singing was Danny Elfman.
You should also see James And The Giant Peach!
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It was made by the same people, and and Jack Skelington makes a cameo in it!
14:19 - This is going on the list of Ashleigh's quotes of 2021. Also, the fish-woman was based on The Creature From the Black Lagoon.
Back in 1993 when this opened my friends and I went to see it and enjoyed it so much when it was over we purchased tickets for the next showing. I've been collecting merchandise for this one for 28 years now and I don't plan on stopping soon.
This is my sister's favorite movie! And it's one of my favorite films as well. It was nominated for Best Visual Effects but lost to JURASSIC PARK.
It made $90 million dollars against a $13 million dollar budget, and it's now Considered a cult classic for Halloween or Christmas.
Hi, Ashleigh! This is one of my favorite Christmas movies. Did you notice that while Jack THOUGHT he needed to have Christmas in his life, what he REALLY needed, only Sally could give him at the end? I love this movie...
ALSO, Tim Burton was heavily influenced by German Expressionism (1920 style), which focuses on off-kilter shapes, light-and-dark contrasts, and strong contrasting lines (see Beetlejuice's and Jack's suits, the sandworms and related critters)
It's truer to say that Burton was influenced by his own cartooning style, which was 60s independent cartoon style by way of Charles Addams.
Dr Finklestein is voiced by William Hickey (Uncle Lewis in Christmas Vacation and Aunt Bethany's actress voiced Betty Boop) this film took 3.5 years to make
Nothing will ever come close to Nightmare Before Christmas. Instant classic.
I don't get the hype, I've never really liked it 🤷🏽♀️.
@@hendrikscheepers4144 Definitely needs to rewatch that. I remember the songs not being as memorable as Nightmare. Good call. 👍
@@Sam-xr8ne Maybe a second viewing might help? 🤔
I discovered your channel today and subscribed after one video. You are a delight and I look forward to going through your back catalogue. Keep up the good work!
Since you recently watched Christmas Vacation, you may be interested to know that the Dr Finkelstein/Scientist is voiced by Uncle Lewis (the cantankerous old man with the toupee)
William Hickey. One of the Greats. Amazing in ‘Prizzi’s Honor’ (1985) with Jack Nicholson.
The "fish woman" is a type of monster called a Gill-man. It was most famously represented in a movie from the 50s called "The Creature From the Black Lagoon".
Oogie Boogie is a Boogieman. (Also called the Sackman in some European countries. ) There are many varying depictions carrying a sack to spirit away children. They simply combined them and made him the literal Sackman in this case.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time. Many people I know don’t understand this movie. Does everyone want to try a different thing instead of doing the same thing all the time? My favorite characters are Locke, Shock and Barrel. Such naughty kids ❤️
Since you asked what Boogie's deal was... There was a few last minute script changes because the Mad Scientist/Doctor guy was suppose to be the villain... then Tim accidentally broke the stage/set and it would have taken too much time/money to build another/repair it... so they made up a new villain (Boogie) with an easier design/stage. I think they had to scale that set up though but I could be wrong.
Of Tim Burton's movies, I, for some reason, enjoyed Pee Wee's Big Adventure the most. Trivia - the brief part of the biker mama toward the end of that movie is played by a red-headed Cassandra Peterson...who also plays Elvira. Cassandra Peterson is a long time friend of Pee Wee Herman (Paul Reubens).
Pee Wee's Big Adventure is my favorite Burton film as well. Highly underrated.
I really love that movie too, but I'd have to say "Ed Wood" is my favorite.
I love rewatching movies through your eyes. Specific favourite Steel Magnolias. Also Fried Green Tomatoes. Please keep doing what you do. Have an amazing Christmas.
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Sally is voiced by Catherine O'Hara
How in the world did I never know that? That's amazing!
She also voiced Shock
1) The Mayor, in addition to being a two faced politician, as someone else pointed out in the comments (brilliant by the way). The Mayor is also supposed to be a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde type character.
2) The fishy thing is supposed to be a Creature from the Black Lagoon type character.
3) Santa did NOT blow his nose to escape. (Really?) Here is a line from the classic poem Twas The Night Before Christmas (which this movie is named after). This classic poem is about Santa Clause visiting a home. This line is just as Santa is leaving..."And laying his finger aside of his nose, and giving a nod, up the chimney he rose."
4) And Oogie Boogie was the Boogie Man.
5) Oogie Boogie was afraid of Jack because centuries ago Oogie found Halloween Town and tried to make it Bug Town. Jack found out, battled and defeated Oogie and was crowned The Pumpkin King. Jack banished Oogie to that lower realm.
"That worm thing reminds me of Beetlejuice."
Tim Burton also directed Beetlejuice. You should watch Big Fish. It's a brilliant film.
So you're the one that likes Big Fish.
Big Fish is a phenomenal film in my opinion.
@@HemlockRidge WTH It's his best movie for sure