Cast Away (2000) Deep Dive │ A Follow-up Video Essay on Betrayal
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- This is a followup to my previous video 'EVERYBODY missed the point of Cast Away (2000)' found here:
• EVERYBODY missed the p...
This deep-dive proves beyond doubt that Kelly was a cheating cheater who cheated on Chuck. I’d recommend anyone to watch Cast Away (2000) with this interpretation in mind because it goes from being "a goofy movie about talking to a volleyball" to becoming a genuinely heart-breaking film.
Please consider subscribing if you want to see more analysis of Cast Away (2000) as I'm currently working on at least two more videos discussing the possible meaning of Chuck's struggle on the island and his invention of Wilson.
Thank you for watching!
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:34 Responding to Critics
04:47 Comprehensive Timeline
12:59 What's it all About?
20:07 Channel Update
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Thank you for watching! Below is a list of some of the *genius* contributions from the comment section:
*1:* @jonXler pointed out that 8 minutes and 52 seconds into the film there is a sound while Chuck records a message on the answering phone. I think this is the *smoking gun* as it sounds like a 'duck' and my grandfather thinks it sounds like a 'dental drill' 😬
*2:* @_misnoma_ pointed out that the timepiece Kelly gives Chuck is a cheap gift for a broke PHD student at Christmas time (when there's no money from tutoring or lecturing). I want to be *really cynical* and suggest that it's not even a family heirloom; Kelly could have been mistaken but I think she lied because it's a known trivia/goof that it wasn't a railroad pocket watch like Kelly claimed ("My grandaddy used it on the southern pacific"), here's a quote from IMDB:
_"This is not a real railroad watch since the specific design was controlled by federal regulations, and would have never been allowed to be used on the job by a railroad crewman..."_
So I think she got the timepiece from a thrift store or maybe the University's lost and found. 😅
*3:* @notsureyou pointed out that the watch only having a photo of Kelly in it - instead of both of them - could be her just wanting him to have something to remember her by, as in "you WERE special to me," "what we HAD was special," etc. or it could also have been a guilty conscience present, i.e. "I do love him, this watch photo present proves it."
*4* @ironsoul80 pointed out that Kelly's first scene in the film has her standing next to a 'Caution Radioactive Material' sign - with obvious implications - and that there's a poster with a frog making eye contact with chuck, which could imply the 'Boiling Frog' metaphor.
*5:* @thatchap brought up the fact that Kelly attempted to *gaslight* Chuck with "You said you'd be right back" which is definitely a strange thing to say. I think it could be taken a few ways, none of them good, but to me it does seem like an attempt at gaslighting, deflecting responsibility, and/or alleviating her guilt.
*6:* @michaeljamesmccabe pointed out that during Chuck's monologue with his friend (Stan) he doesn't say anything and looks uncomfortable the whole time; I think that in itself, a monologue is a monologue for a reason, but also on the plane when Chuck asks _"What in the World am I going to say to her?"_ there is an uncomfortable 4-second-pause before Stan responds. I doubt Stan would have known anything for sure but I think he must have had the same suspicions.
*7:* @SkidsIsVFL pointed out that:
"Memphis had already had 2 failed pro football franchises and were snubbed for expansion after the Oilers moved to Nashville (where they were renamed to the Titans). So hearing a Memphis native say “We (Tennessee) have a football team, but they’re in Nashville?” echoes the city’s feelings of betrayal and the question is aimed at a woman who cheated on him is chefs kiss beautiful-but kinda niche-subtext."
*8:* @JamesCarmichael "You could say that Lovett fed his ex" 💀
*9:* @devlinallistair-zx5by pointed out that there could be an element of 'Hypergamy' to Kelly's hooking up with Lovett, i.e. "She's getting her dissertation, so she needs to be with a doctor."
*10:* @timsimmons9995 had another interpretation for 'Kelly' which I think is superior to mine: "Kelly means "strife, war," which is interpreted as conflict, a battle, or a disagreement. We can interpret that as meaning Kelly was in conflict or disagreement with herself, or two men were unknowingly in conflict for her heart, etc."
*11:* A small mistake in the video: I refer to the guy at the Christmas table as 'Chuck's friend' when he's actually just Kelly's uncle, which I believe supports my point more as Kelly's family don't want to discuss her past relationships at all and a friend would have probably just told Chuck (bro code), whereas an uncle would probably not get involved.
*12:* Another small mistake, the woman I referred to as a 'stewardess' is actually a pilot, my bad.
*13:* A point which has occurred to me for anyone looking to defend Kelly is that it's not right for her to kiss Chuck and declare her undying love for him while the man she married and the daughter they're raising are sleeping in their home just out of frame. To put it bluntly, there's no way Kelly was going to be honest with Lovett after this:
_"So I kissed Chuck and really I love him but I have to stay in this sham marriage because of our daughter and mortgage and I'm probably going to resent you for the rest of our lives etc."_
We are on Chuck's side as he's the protagonist but what Kelly is doing to Lovett is actually really bad. "Kelly is not an honest woman."
*14:* Finally, I want to recommend this incredibly deep video by 'Logos Made Flesh' who sadly has since passed away: ruclips.net/video/ECnvX3oKIMA/видео.html
I hope that you enjoyed the video! Once again, *thank you so much for watching!*
Excellent job dude! You know you're on target when the "random" algorithm pump up your first video, only to be met with a barrage of NPCs and bots trying to discredit it (then followed up with the "random" algoritim refusing to promote your follow-up video). I doubt that was the real zemeckis anyways.
H-Wood movies are filled with these hidden subtexts. They don't want thinking movie watchers. Another YTer completely tore apart his Back to the Future hidden messaging years ago. Just consume product, and move on to consume next product.
Well, I'm no bot, but as a lover of this film I will suggest that this is your personal fever dream and not particularly important in my view, in terms of enjoying the movie. I gave you the like anyway, because not seeing the original vid I listened until I understood what you were saying, and you sound pretty competent.....then I read the synopsis where you suggest that outside of this unimportant to me detail of her fidelity, you refer to the movie as "a goofy movie about talking to a volleyball". This is where I'd have punched you in person, having a good deal of the red island blood in me as well. Will still be tuning into the next one though, so prepare for another longwinded critique.
@@IDontBuyIt50 _"How much subtext can there be in a goofy movie about talking to a volleyball"_ was a dismissive question asked by a close friend of mine which I continued to answer in the video; this is a polemic method sometimes referred to as 'prebuttal' and therefore the question reflected views in contention with my own 🤝
I appreciate the like, the feedback, and the promise of more feedback 🙂
@@ExtraCheeseProject very impressive response time. I saw later my comment was pretty much off-base because I posted it too quick on that volleyball note, but I don't like to delete. I barely register Hunt when rewatching this movie, to me the movie is about enduring and overcoming mentally. Her locket is just the infinity stone of the movie, which he no longer needed to survive. Like you said it could have been anyone, but from my view it also could have been any "thing". They double down on this with his obsession with the package, also foregoing the final meeting with the actual person because its the symbol on the box and future promise that motivates, not the people. Of course you have to read this from the perspective of someone done with relationships and who thinks the deserted island didn't look too bad.
@@IDontBuyIt50 You're interpreting the 'deep meaning' of the film whereas these videos analyzed the meaning of the plot and subplot. I did touch on 'meaning' in this video and do I stand by _"Good people can surmount the bad; being a bad person is its own punishment"_ but I haven't analyzed the island or Wilson beyond plot and subplot yet; my next Cast Away video will focus on the island and Wilson and I may figure out a different 'deeper meaning' 🏐
I have to admit I was skeptical, but the fact that Helen Hunt's character hooked up with his dentist sold it for me. He could have been any guy she met after the "loss". No, it was a man in her life before the plane crash.
Well said! A man already in her life who was not known by Chuck either _"You probably wouldn't remember me..."_ 😬
@@ExtraCheeseProject Not to mention the general awkwardness of both Tom and Helen's character both before and after the plane crash. These are two academy award winning actors. A bad script might explain why good actors fall flat, but actually the lines are fairly standard, even sentimental.
But for sure there was something really off about thier relationship right from the beginning.
@@Nickelodeon81 Agreed! 🤝☕😃
Women do that.
@@DavidBloodJohnson _Pragmatic_ Is a euphemism for "HO"!
I never connected the affair dots, but even as a kid I understood the point of Tom Hanks coming home was to show he was cast away there too
At first I thought this guy was out of his mind, but as I listen to these 2 videos, his argument has begun to make sense.
When Chuck calls her and she does not pick up there are 2 clocks...two timer.
Nice
Thanks for diving into this film. I always thought it was deeper than it first appeared. There are levels to it that most people miss. Bettina's BF in Russia is a view into infidelity that mirrors Chuck's situation. I don't think Kelly was truly "bad", but merely weak, too weak to be truly "good". Like most people.
You're right, there are so many levels that I think I've just scratched the surface; I'm already working on a couple more videos about this film, I'm not as certain about some of the themes as I am about this betrayal theme, but hopefully I don't embarrass myself too much 😅
Of course, you're also correct that Kelly wasn't really that bad, like I don't think she intended for anybody to get hurt. How it worked out makes her seem worse than she was though, so definitely "weak" as you said, but also 'unlucky' 😬 Thank you for the feedback! 😄
I totally agree with this premise. There was always something about Kelly that I didn’t quite figure out, this does explain her behavior through the movie
All jokes aside, Chuck is one of those guys Who's always working and never paying attention to the details. He never noticed that Kelly didn't love him as much as he thought. He had to be stranded for 4 years just to realize he was missing out on his life.
I've always loved this film and never given it close to your level of thought, but I'm totally convinced. This theory is dead-on
The "There Will be Blood" reference joke was gold.
Thank you! 😅 It's probably my favorite line in cinema history 😄
@@ExtraCheeseProject _LOONG STRAAAW!_
"I drink your milkshake" 🤣- excellent work! You're 100% correct to the core of the depth of this film.
This and your original video are fantastic, I believe you are absolutely correct and it was intentional, and I had always felt like there was something else to this movie that was never directly explained to the viewer. Love it!
Thank you that's so encouraging! 😃
I'm so glad you made a follow up video on your theory. I think you're spot on about the nuance missed in this film.
Thank you that's so encouraging! 😃
So I just watched both of your videos, and I have to say this is the best theory on the meaning of Cast Away I have seen on RUclips. Anything that is written as open ended as this movie can have many valid interpretations. With that being said, I always disliked the ending of the movie, and really don't like watching it. I always thought what was the point of everything, he gets nothing in the end beside the chance to live/start over. Everything else is gone(no job, no girlfriend, no place to live, all his stuff presumably is gone) besides his Jeep I guess.
I like this take as it makes the ending a good payoff because Chuck had to go through hell on the island, but he dodged a bullet as Kelly was not right for him and his outcome may have been worse if he would have not got on the plane and stayed home. This makes the journey worth it in the end.
Well said! The "Hero's Journey" led Chuck to Bettina so it was definitely worth it 😅 I'm also working on another script for a video exploring some alternate themes for Chuck's experience on the island and his relationship with Wilson and hopefully I can figure out some strong ideas 😬 Thank you for the feedback it's so encouraging! 😃
He gained the ULTIMATE prize - _FREEDOM!_ He's at a crossroads where every direction is an opportunity and he has his dignity and self respect intact!
@@dancarter482 Well said! 👏
@@dancarter482 so true! he is also in much more harmony with himself and the nature, and there is a sense of peace and depth to his character that was lacking before the accident.
@@ThePitchblue Also, he got everything he needed from the "relationship" with her - it was what kept him striving for his freedom - both from the island and the prison that would have been his life _with_ her! He gets to witness first hand what domestic mediocrity would entail and he gets to drive away in his own chariot that she was keeping from/for him. I like the touch of seeing his bottles of water - he's worked hard all day on less; now he knows the value of basic stuff and is content. Like Forest Gump running - he can just drive until he wants to stop.
I have no doubt Bettina's salsa verde is worth coming back from a desert island.
Best comment!!
This theory is one of my favorites. Castaway is incredibly deep, and I always would come back to it with reruns over the years. This was a great follow up video. There is even more here, and I would love it if you kept going with more videos.
Thank you for the feedback it's so encouraging! 😃 The next Cast Away video will analyze the island and Chuck's relationship with Wilson 🏐 (I'll also make some unrelated videos while I'm figuring it all out) 🙂
I absolutely loved these two videos. Thank you so much
I knew this movie's ending left me unsatisfied.
I think this is why it's played so often and people will rewatch it; the film doesn't end when the credits roll 😊
This makes me wonder how serious she was about her schooling. Did she give up on her education, or did she just use it as a convenient alibi for the affair? Once Chuck was gone, she had no need for the alibi.
I think she was very serious about her schooling as the 'Dissertation Defense' is the last step in completing a PhD and Kelly's was scheduled for January; so she left a completed dissertation on the table to randomly marry Lovett instead _"What happened to you becoming a professor?"_ 😬
a PhD is a ton of work, that's a lot of effort for an alibi . my guess is she gave up after marrying the well off dentist and chose to be a stay at home mom because it was less stressful than getting a real job
@@aliali-ce3yf It is, but she didn't finish it. If she had enough time to juggle 2 relationships, maybe she wasn't taking school as seriously as she pretended.
The dissertation defense should have been pro forma at this stage (an opportunity for the committee to ask predictable questions, eat donuts, and act imperious). Her advisors would have washed her out long before one month prior her dissertation defense if she were going to fail. Maybe she was too upset to show up? (but she had already invested years) or this could simply be a plot hole.
@@Herman_Laurenz Well said! 👏 In this video* I suggest that a combination of Kelly having no money to support herself and accidentally finding herself _in the family way_ were the reasons for Kelly marrying Lovett 😅
Dude… another spot on analysis….the truth is people who don’t see this side of the plot most likely have never been cheated on …literally damn near every “red flag” any man should be aware of was in this film (well short of social media DMs and cell phone guarding…but that wasn’t a thing yet😂)
😆 You're probably right and I've always thought that the _really mean_ comments were from cheaters who resented the censure 😅 One person even said that Kelly was just 'Relationship Overlapping' a new term for cheating I'd never heard before and hope to never hear again 🙄
@@ExtraCheeseProject who said that phrase was obviously a women or very beta soy boy dude 😂 overlapping 🤦♂️
I absolutely loved the bit (and the amazing editing) with Chuck and the gun. Instant subscribe!
Thank you! 😃 The commenter 'Playlist4Ella' gets half the credit for suggesting such a hilarious idea 🤣
@@ExtraCheeseProject I especially like the repeat of "I'm sorry..." right before the gunshot. Nice touch!
Great follow up video! You really have a way of seeing into the film and discovering the meaning behind a lot of the events. Keep it up!
Thank you so much! 😃
Excellent Analysis. I would like to see more of this! Thank you
I'm tempted to write something moronic and obnoxious in the hopes of getting featured in another video response - but instead I'll do what Kelly couldn't and speak the truth. This is a great bit of analysis and I subscribed to your channel after watching it.
It was clear their relationship was weak. The dentist really sells your theory. Lots of great evidence. Great videos.
Thank you! 😃
I love your analysis of this. Great job.
Thank you so much! 😃
Love your content. Please never stop making it.
I'll do my best! 😃
Beautiful. Well done. Thank you, its been an eye-opener. Thank you once again.
Thank you so much for the awesome feedback! 😃
It’s interesting to me how reading the comments of this and your original video. People are divided and pretty passionate about their opinion. I think that some people don’t see it because they haven’t experienced trauma, or maybe people do see it because they have experienced trauma and now they see it everywhere. I definitely fit into the latter, I experienced the betrayal of my wife and my best friend together so the idea of her cheating and then leaving is familiar and plausible. You make very compelling points
I agree completely and I'm sorry to hear that you've been through that ❤🩹 I also extend this line of reasoning to include the people that leave really _mean_ comments; I think they're cheaters who resent the censure 😮💨 Thank you for the feedback! 🙂
Fantastic dive into this movie, to be fair i always thought there was more to it, it feel right that the reunion of Chuck and Kelly was more awkward then it should have been
Great work! I never thought about it that way.
I never caught it when I was younger but as an older man with more life experience I think you are spot on. I remember thinking she was a scumbag for moving on so fast but with the rest I did not connect the dots.
I never gave much thought to this film, but after listening to your thoughts I will definitely watch it again. As I believe you are 100% right.
That's exactly the feedback I hoped to get! 😃🥳😅
there are those who see
there are those who see, when shown
and there are those who will not see...
Yes!!! The apology at the end was sooooo weird
_"Me too"_ Kelly's apology was so reserved that I missed it the first few times 😅
The etymology of 'castaway' is connected to mariner tradition and there is an emphasis on escape..specifically to get away from a sinking ship
I always believed she was cheating and had moved on way too fast after supposedly the love of her life went missing. His “I’m Sorry” in the car, let me paraphrase that. “ I’m sorry the plane blew up and I ended up on a deserted island, wiping my ass with plant leaves, and staying sane by communicating with a volley ball whose face was painted on by the blood I spilled getting injured. “Yea please forgive my insensitivity to not coming right back” 😂😂😂. Too many consequences he points out, when in fact most people are convicted by consequences alone.
except that apology fits his character at that point. He apologized to Stan for not being there when his wife died from cancer.
@@alsims2007 could not agree more. That was sincere, he was genuinely sorry.
@@RushWorkingMan sorry but I wasn't agreeing with you but that highlights my issue with this theory. Every single point towards her cheating can also justify why she wasn't cheating because everything is pure speculation. I think the best example of this was the original video on this topic when he mentioned the timeframe for her to have a kid and get over Chuck's death. The assumption is that 1 year is too short so she had to hooked up with the doctor a year before the accident. That's not how grief works. Nobody is on the same timeline and how do we know she didn't have the kid and then moved on? Unfortunately that happens. A person will "move on" before they have truly moved on because they want to believe they can just force it. The pocket watch gift is another that can be interpreted both ways and I prefer the idea of a symbolic gift that has a loving meaning vs how these theories looked at it from it's monetary value.
You gave me a lot to think about, albeit with a darker subtext than I read into the movie. There is a randomness to human lives, particularly for young people who drift around until they make the most critical decision of their lives. Although it may seem they take years to make a critical marriage decision, for a big part of that they aren't prepared for settling down. Decide too soon, with the wrong person, and you're not ready to do the kind of heavy lifting on both sides that sustaining a marriage requires. So I'll say a decision like that happens in a fairly narrow gap of life, often without as much thought as the immense gravity of the decision justifies. Rather than accusing Kelly of infidelity, I'll throw out a guess that she is the longer term victim. I suppose both are possible.
You make a good point about marriage, Kelly had already been married and everything in the first half of the film suggests that she had no intention of getting married again (at least not to Chuck), so it makes her marriage to Lovett even stranger for Chuck when he returns.
Also, Chuck, Kelly and Lovett are all coming up on 40 in the film, so they're not "young people who drift around" they're closer to "middle aged people set in their ways" 😅
I still feel bad about Wilson😂
Wilson's the real hero of the story 😭🏐☕
What a great pair of discussions!
I suppose it's too obvious to mention but I haven't seen anyone talk about the two meanings of 'cast away'.
As in a 'castaway' and to 'cast away'.
Very neatly supports your argument! 😊
You're spot on! 😊 I alluded to the 'castaway/cast away' difference near the end of the first video, but I didn't want to labor the point, ideally I'd want it to be a 'eureka moment' for the viewer 😅 Thank you for the feedback! 😃
Yes, I love this take on this film, and on the "Cast Away" title.
Stranded on an island, Chuck was a castaway.
Whereas Chuck's Love for this woman was cast away.
Almost a Mystery Film now.
Thank you ECP.
Once again, a great analysis. You’ve got me convinced it’s near certain. I always thought that the movie was kinda just gut wrenching and cut and dry. But this gives it a whole beautiful new meaning, lol better to be alone for 4 yrs than stuck with the wrong person forever!
Thank you so much! 😃 I agree and also _"Better to be alone for 4 years if you get a chance with Bettina"_ 😅
Great job!
Very good, well done Sir, I appreciate your insight.
Thank you so much! 😃
Wilson was right these hos ain’t loyal!
Hey man. What's the craic. Just stumbled across your channel. Fantastic work. Hope you can do loads more for our enlightenment and entertainment. Cheers.
Awesome! I'm hoping to get another video out before February, thank you for the encouraging feedback, cheers! 😃
Nice. It'll be a great surprise when you release it!!
New sub.
Thanks for the content, sir.
Thank you, that's so encouraging! 😃
This is so insanely well done. Subbed.
Thank you so much! 😃
Np! Your Skylar White on trial video had me bursting into tears with the Half Life sound effects during Ted's neck break. @@ExtraCheeseProject
@@Widderic 😆 I was so indecisive about including that in the montage; in the end I figured that the people who _get it_ will find it hilarious which will justify confusing anyone who doesn't _get it_ and your feedback has verified this 🤝☕ 😅
There'd have to be way too many coincidences in order for this analysis not to be true. I'm convinced! Well done.
Always knew there was something a bit off about the way Kelly interacted with Chuck, but all the times I've viewed this film was when I was a younger kid and didn't yet understand the way women's minds operate. Now that I'm older, I can see that Kelly displays virtually all of the signs of a woman who's just not that into a guy and is stringing him along only until she is able to secure for herself the man she really wants. I don't believe Kelly's portrayal was just a function of bad acting on Helen Hunt's part as some have said. I think Hunt is a good actor and played the role exactly how she was supposed to. Perhaps the director even filled her in on the subtext of what this movie is about (infidelity) so as to elicit the best performance possible out of her, but also told the cast not to overtly mention this subtext publicly, and to just let the more clever members of the audience reach this conclusion themselves.
If I'm ever trapped in an elevator with Rob Zemeckis I'll have a lot of questions ready for him 😅 Thank you for the feedback! 😃
Brilliant analysis
There are studies showing that people interpret garbled speech as whatever a researcher tells them they are about to hear, even when different expectations are set for the exact same sound. I suspect that phenomenon is in play here. If the Director says your theory is not what was intended, it probably wasn't. Why would he lie? On the other hand, it's ironical that your version is a considerably more interesting story. Whatever's true, you've presented an entertaining and persuasive argument. Thanks for posting.
To clarify, Rob Zemeckis, Bill Broyles Jr., or anybody else are yet to comment 😅 Hypothetically, if Rob Zemeckis were to say that the betrayal theme wasn't intended, I would ask him what his intention actually was because all of this subtext doesn't just come out of thin air 😬 Personally, I prefer the David Lynch approach anyway: _“A film or TV show is like a magic act, and magicians don’t tell how they did a thing.”_
Thank you for the feedback! 😃
I literally waited for this
😬 Thank you for being patient! 😅 Production took a long time because I didn't want to release a follow-up video that was _twice as long as and only half as interesting_ so* I spent lots of time on this 😁
lol, I love this different view of the movie. Very fresh look on something I watched multiple times.
Hey dude,finally followed up,wow,well NOW you convinced me 100%. Damn,this movie is a TRUE MASTERPIECE. Like wow,so much subliminal messages and clues for one to put together and you did it all. Like as humans they still like felt something,but it was too late because she had already cheated,her dirty conscience is what kept her enclosed. And I felt like both of them didint want to admit they were wrong. I meen girls also cheat on you because you obviously were doing something wrong. Idk man,well I told you that this one girl betrayed me kind of the same way,well actually ALOT WORSE,even more than Cast Away man:(,but I loved that you pointed out that as long as your a good person,you will overcome the bad. Well its kinda weird how she now has to be with the new bad idiot with 4 kids and i'm actually really BLESSED NOW🙏. I know that she will NEVER stop loving me but hey,life does really truly move forward/on,you have to move on with it. She doesn't seem happy with that guy and I now im married & have a son that's white complected with blue eyes,and i'm Mexican. Anyways,THANK YOU 4 the deep analysis of this MASTERPIECE❤. You made me realize IM BLESSED🙏❤✝️♾️
The first draft had _'living well is the best revenge'_ which really didn't fit the film or my feelings because wanting 'revenge' already implies a meanness/bitterness 😅 Whereas you described perfectly how they both had to accept what happened and move on regardless of their feelings, yet Chuck moved on to find Bettina and a better life, whereas Kelly was stuck with a life she didn't want. I'm glad that you found this video meaningful especially with your experiences ❤🩹 Thank you for the awesome feedback! 😄
@@ExtraCheeseProject No,thank you man,for making me realize that life blessed me without even knowing. Also for being a really intelligent human being that loves movies just as much as I do and can put the clues,subliminal messages,key words,and basically putting the puzzle together. Cant imagine going through that kind of hell,deserted island with only a picture of your cheating ex keeps you alive. Well,i'm glad in the movie he was also Blessed at the end,the symbolism of a crossroads(like where do I go from here on),was good too,and I find it fascinating because I live in Texas. That ending always gets to me:').
@@ExtraCheeseProject Yeah,that girl that cheated on me,well left me for another traitor see's me happy and is always like bothered by it. It proves that living well is the best revenge because they see one happy and they live with their actions/mistakes. Reminds me of one of our sayings,"you made your bed,now lie in it".
@@chickmagnetpunkcmpunkbesti8896 That would be so such a good phrase for the scene in the Jeep: _"Chuck..."_ _"You made your bed, Kelly, now lay in it."_ 😆 I can't take all the credit because there were so many contributions from comments on the first video, nevertheless thanks again, this feedback is so encouraging! 😃
Anybody notice that Jigsaw's face is on TV in the background at the 18:47 mark, precisely when you're saying that their punishment for being bad is that they are stuck together? The TV is right behind the kid. Who watches Saw with their baby while eating? Are they "trapped" together because of the kid? Perhaps not by intention? Will one of them have to hurt the other to escape?
An accidental pregnancy hypothesis works with the rushed courtship timeline after the plane crash, and it ups the tension because it makes it reasonable to suspect they're together mainly for the kid and possibly not for love.
I edited Jigsaw's face into that scene and you interpreted the meaning perfectly! 👏 You're on the money with the tension as well because I doubt there's any real love between Kelly and Lovett when she claimed that Chuck is the _"love of her life"_ (assuming she's not lying again) 😬😅 Thank you for the feedback! 😃
Your analysis of this movie is excellent. I always thought it was odd that Kelly's husband didn't jump out of his seat to help her when she fainted straight onto the floor. Do you think there is a hidden meaning behind Kelly's hair being cut so short?
Kelly probably did consider Chuck the love of her life. For one, there wasn't much competition for that title. For two, you don't appreciate what you have until it's gone. And three, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
Replying to a comment a while ago I suggested that Kelly's first haircut emphasized her forehead to signify her intellectual pursuits whereas the second haircut obscured her forehead to emphasize her now being a homemaker; although I was half-joking this does ring true with the _language_ of visual storytelling 😅 Thank you for the great feedback! 😃
Sorry. This is a long one.
My wife loves this movie, I absolutely detest it. I've always hated it. ...until I watched both of these video essays. I actually wanted to rewatch it with her to see if this was right, and man... You were spot on. We couldn't believe it. I actually have a newfound respect for it because of the deeper meaning. I watched it when it originally came out, I was a young man with no real experience in the real world, so having him at a literal crossroads at the end, with nothing, just pissed me off. It was horribly sad.
After watching your analyses, I realize it's so much more. Here are the three points that stuck out to me:
1.) The crossroads at the end aren't hopeless or sad, he's lost (again) but can be found. He can still find happiness. The look on his face wasn't the bewilderment I originally saw, it was more that of aimlessly hopeful.
2.) I think he had time to let the relationship live and die on the island. He was out of his mind when he first got there, but as time went on he came to terms with it, overall. I think he was more in love with the idea of being in love, than actually being in love with her. It took the island shaking him to his core to make him realize that.
I don't know about you, but I'd imagine a lot of people in his position would've come back kicking and screaming and wanting their lover back. He would've driven off with her into the night, all others be damned, they would've figured it out later. Instead, he says "You have to go home". Not just replicating what she's saying, not really saying it in a wistful way, but being gently blunt and to the point. That's a man that came to terms with letting her go. We've seen movies where they said "All others be damned, we're gonna be happy". (Serendipity, for example.) And her relief of the team vs "You've been cheating on me" set that in stone for me.
Brings me to point 3.) His visit was closure, not trying to actually win her back. He was grilling her, albeit gently, but it was cathartic for him. You could see it on his face. I used to see it as a loving longing for things that no longer exist, but this time I saw it as an "Okay. I enjoyed watching you squirm, I needed it, but I'm now going to let you go. Good luck and goodbye." moment.
I think that you're spot on in all 3 points! 😃 I actually wish that I could go back and put your third point in this video - "His visit was for closure" - I can't believe how important this insight is, but it never even occurred to me to actually express the idea of getting closure in words; this was definitely a failing on my part 😭
In the next Cast Away video (covering Wilson and the island) I'll make a point of outlining Chuck's _closure_ and give you a credit as a 'genius commenter' like I did this in video 😁
I think that your second point also deserves coverage as a few commenters have even suggested that _"You have to go home"_ is actually Chuck rejecting Kelly; I believe this myself, but it's undermined in Chuck's monologue with _"We'd had both done the math"_ which is unfortunate, but if it's in the final cut then we can't really argue with it (or can we?) 😅
@@ExtraCheeseProject oh, wow! I'm honored! Thank you. :)
I couldn’t stop laughing, great work.
Thank you so much! 😃
ya know. people said i was a weirdo when i first saw this movie when it came out i was a kid and i was confused about "why is he want to see the girl cheating on him" But than they pointed out that the affair at start of movie was not even between her or him and were just randoms and not important. Yet i always wondered. why the fuck would they even show a cheating couple in a movie about a damn airplane crash survivor? Your theory makes a lot of good arguments.
I always thought the whole first "cheating" couple was a clue / hint that when he called her and she did not answer that she was cheating on him too.
Well said! 👏 Having her not answer the phone (twice) introduces her character as 'absent' before she's shown at the University as 'closed off' by having her in a separate room with her back to both Chuck and the viewer: as you said, these were either intentional clues or very strange creative decisions 😅
I just recently watched this movie and I missed all of this. I was more amazed with the fact that he was able to survive. I’ve only seen the movie twice once when it came out and once about a month ago. I had forgotten that he was on that island for four years. Rather than be happy that somehow he managed to escape and get back to the woman he loved now I feel sorry for him. The only thing he could think of was getting back to her and she was screwing him over before he even left. Maybe he would’ve been better off just staying on that island forever🤔
For me, the best thing about this film is how _it doesn't end when the credits roll,_ it stays with people 🙂
I like the way you say "filem" 🙂
You are spot on with this one.
Thank you for commenting I appreciate the positive feedback! 😃
Just watched both videos, my thoughts on the first was that you were reaching until you hit the timeline. Five years pass, maybe Kelly would be dating again normally, but married with a 2 - 3 year old then? That is the part that sold me.
You make a good case. I would tend to agree with your assessment as I think Zemeckis movies have lots of hidden meanings as you pointed out with the names. Take Contact, for example. Have you ever noticed the machine they build looks like a crucifix and an atomic symbol together? This being symbolic of the film’s main themes of science and religion. I’ve heard that Zemeckis loves putting a lot of thought into hidden meaning behind seemingly innocuous things.
I'd never noticed that symbolism in Contact 😮 I remember liking the _"have faith in science"_ vibe when I first saw Contact so I should probably revisit it and see how I feel about this with my current cynical mindset 😅 Thank you for the awesome feedback! 😃
@@ExtraCheeseProject You bet. I think it's interesting how people sometimes discount small details in movies. Screenwriters, directors, and many others pour their lives into these projects with a tremendous amount of money on the line. Every moment is scrutinized by multiple people. The choice to show the machine in Contact is a choice, and the way the machine looks is also a choice, by someone, if not multiple people.
@@SeanDavidWorsfold-hg4tr You're absolutely right! This reminds me of Stephen Fry's anecdote about being an extra in Chariots of Fire (1981) and how the set designers had paid for professionally printed flyers on a table which had no chance of being picked up by the camera - he explained that they'd be stuck if the director decided to shoot a close-up of this table and they didn't have these flyers ready - as you said, this is the _care and effort_ which goes into making films so the details shouldn't be taken for granted 👍
I believe it. I think your theory is correct. I love the movie. I've seen it countless times and I got that feeling as well. Your theory confirms it. Great observations
Thank you for the feedback! 😃
@@ExtraCheeseProject you're welcome 😊
Even as a kid I could not understand how she had married so fast and had a kid of such age. Numbers didn't make sense to me as a kid. I was suspicious of her. Very good job with your videos.
Thank you so much! 😃
The problem Cast Way has with critic editors throwing out their opinions over analysis is similar to what current movies have today.
Pocket Watch - Must have a connection to the later Zemekis/Hanks "Polar Express" too. Zemekis seems to be connecting & meta-scripting his movies. Like how Back to the Future has connections to "The Walk".
I never heard that theory before 😮 I'll look into it tonight 👍
@@ExtraCheeseProject Yeah. It was everywhere 8 years go from an uploader called BARELY HUMAN. There was a long one with millions of views (gone off YT) But segments are still around. It even goes into Greek Mythology quite well. Some might find it silly, but well worth a look. One of the few vids I watched twice.
@@ExtraCheeseProject I found the "The Walk" segment on bitchute from a user called "The High Calvinist". Outrageous but interesting - especially having 2015 McFly & 2015 "The Walk" Jospeh Gordon Levitt in the same clothes. Zemekis clearly provoking the discerning audience.
'Barely Human' sounds familiar to me, this theory seems well above my pay-grade already, I love it 😅
@@ExtraCheeseProject I personally think "Team Zemekis" handed info to a selected uploader to coincide with the (then) forthcoming BTTF 2015 date, and Walk release. Basically pulling a Kubrick/Moon/Shining thing which was popularized about that time. It worked. Shining & BTTF are deeply cemented in film History, more than they already were.
Very interesting analysis/take on the movie... Right or not? Who know, but it would be interesting to get the director's take on this. You certainly make a good point that Kelly had been cheating on Chuck prior to the plane crash.
Hahaha I am such a sucker for all David Mitchell media, even if it’s a 1 second peep show sound byte. Lets me know I’m watching something made with a person of sublime taste and unparalleled sophistication. Beautiful work.
😁 David Mitchell's one of my favorite comedians and I use that overlay from the Mitchell and Webb 'Cheese argument' whenever I can because I love that sketch so much 😂
If this theory was indeed the real meaning it’s such a shame the studio didn’t go there in the end. I already really like this movie but it would have been at the very top table if it had this twist. If Chuck had confronted Kelly and his suspicions were confirmed it would have been a completely different story. I guess the meaning would have been the importance of having faith you are loved can pull you through the hardest of times… a beautiful lie can sometimes be better than the cold truth. Chuck wouldn’t have survived if he’d learned of her betrayal before he was stranded. If the child had been getting on towards 4! What a moment that would have been. Could have flashed back to the missed phone calls in a sixth sense style… maybe they could have added a scene where Kelly didn’t want an alcoholic drink at the family meal. Man… what a movie it would have been. I’m giving myself goosebumps 😂
I couldn't agree more! 😮 Especially your idea of Kelly not drinking at the family meal: maybe an aunt offers her a drink "Kelly, you have to try this!" and she declines, Chuck raises an eyebrow for a moment before getting a pang of tooth pain from chewing something hard to swallow, then he gets called to work 😃 The whole film would have had a different vibe, but maybe that would have made it less successfully, meaning that film analysts like me would have nothing to talk about 😇
Thanks for making a movie I never liked at least make sense.
Great analysis. I would add that regarding the dinner scene, although may people take the "make an honest woman of her" as a joke, as it often is, (1) every joke has an element of truth and, more importantly, (2) Kelly's uncle is not smiling or laughing in the slightest.
Well said 👏 Kelly's uncle looks so unhappy especially compared to the energy of the family around him 😔 (I bet he'd have a thing or two to say about Kelly's failed marriage to the attorney) 😅
I fucking lost it at the end when you had Charlie from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia pop up on the screen, I just busted out laughing so hard started crying 😂
edit: how deep is your knowledge on Bird Law ?
I saw the episode about ten years ago, but that scene has transcended into a meme in its own right, I also used it as an overlay in the first Cast Away video as well 😅
The "love" he felt for her saved his life on the plane when he went to retrieve the watch during the crash. It most certainly sustained and saved his life on the island by giving him something to live for. I never picked up on the Kelly affair as you've clearly illustrated, but it does not diminish an overall "power of love" theme. Any insights on the meaning of "Keep on breathing"? Thank you for your dissection of this film. Happy 2024!
Well said! There is definitely a 'power of love' theme at every layer of this film 💟 I haven't seen 'Keep on Breathing' but I'll check it out if you recommend it 😇 Thank you for the feedback! Happy 2024! 😃
Hi, sorry for a small misquote. It wasn't a movie, it was a few lines from Castaway near the ending of the film during Chuck's monologue. He says, "keep breathing" at least three times and for some reason I thought it was said at the very ending (maybe in the original cut of the film?). In that monologue he also suggests that the power of her memory (feeling of love) kept him alive. Quote, "but I’m so grateful she was with me on that island”.
@@2muchmedia Ah I understand, 'Keep Breathing' is a Drama series from 2022, but I'm kinda glad you're not recommending it as it looks kinda meh 😅 I think you're right, this definitely reinforces that Chuck wouldn't have survived the island without believing that he had Kelly's love ❤🩹
All very interesting points IMHO..... except (again IMHO) for the photograph in the watch. It is quite common to have just the one person/subject in such a photo - heck, we can refer to the Captain America movie as a clear example.
Well done sir
Thank you! 😃
Alright, you won the internet. The final part of your video essay proves there's actual intent behind character building and there's no accidental coincidences, especially with naming conventions shown.
Every small nuance is documented well and I find anyone trying to refute your claims are the same types of people who demand to speak to the manager; only to grasp what little power they actually possess. In this case, trying to cry victim and hoping for Cancel Pigs to save them.
Thank you so much! 😃
the dental drill sound cinched it for me, the dentist was drilling kelly much much earlier
There is nothing so pathetic as the guy who can only initiate a relationship when the woman is on the rebound after a breakup, a divorce, or a loss. Most of us have seen examples. I think you are spot on in your inference.
Bro, you missed the best name of all:
Wilson: Son of William. William = Will. It could be interpreted as "the son of the future" that he lost and has to let go in order to survive the storm.
Geat analysis!
Thank you! 😃 I think you're on the money! I was just saving all things Wilson and the island for the next video 😅
7:53 - Laverne!!! LMAO!!
I think you are 100% correct
This video is crazy good. Only a weirdo would try to debunk this essay
There does tend to be less weirdos here than on 'other social media sites which will not be named' 😅 Thank you for the feedback! 😃
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Yeah that's definitely in the process of changing sadly....
You should do one of these on how Private Ryan is a selfish narcissistic ahole who wasn't worth it and didn't earn jack shhhht.
HMU for my theory
Oh man, I watched that before Christmas and that contemptible little story Ryan told about his brothers had me thinking that _Ryan probably wasn't worth saving_ 😅 Then I looked into it and Matt Damon improvised that story out of the blue so Hanks' shocked/appalled reaction was his real reaction and Spielberg just left it in the film 👏
I'm not sure if that's the kind of video I want to make though as Ryan was based on a _historical_ person and I could see any criticism of the _fictional_ character getting blown out of proportion 😬 I mean, I've already got people calling me names for this theory about Kelly, so imagine the fury if I went off on Private Ryan 😭
@ExtraCheeseProject My problem is with him is at the end of the movie. As he is standing over Cpt Miller's grave he says "I brought my family with me today". His wife walks up and he does the whole "tell me I'm a good man" bs and she says he is (lies). Then she looks down and reads the headstone like "Cpt James Miller". Clearly not knowing who it is. So this old fker has gone his entire life without so much as telling his WIFE... let alone his kids and grandkids... about the people who LITERALLY DIED so he could live?! They stayed there and fought when they didn't have to because he threw a little fit and didn't give a shit about how his mother was going to feel losing her FOURTH child.... they fought because HE wanted to stay and fight. And what does he do during the battle? He sits in the fetal position and screams! His wife should know their names. His kids should know their names... Hell his kids should be NAMED after them! But no.... They lose the medic and Vin Diesel just trying to find this random useless day one private... when all they have to go on is "he's probably in France". Then everyone except Riben dies defending this random ass bridge... and his whore wife reads the name on the tombstone like she just got somebody else's mail. What a grade a fkbag! FUBAR!
@ExtraCheeseProject and I've heard people say "oh look he never told her because he didn't talk about the war". BULL FKIN SHT! I've been to war... like 8 times. You don't have to tell your 4 year old grandkids about the dude who turned into man jelly because he didn't know how fuses work on the sticky bomb.... fine... but you damn well better have those men's names carried on forever! He should make her call out their names when they bang! GTFO here... Slapping Private Fkbag.... that's what the movie should be called.
@ryan17002000 You've convinced me 😬 _"Tell me I'm a good man"_ also implies that no one's ever said he's a good man 😅
When Kelly run to Chuck out in the rain and kissing him, my brain immediately go “That’s cheating, you have a husband and a kid!”
Like I wouldn’t root for Chuck to take her back at that point, so yeah, Kelly being a cheater makes perfect sense.
Absolutely! Kelly was showing her true colors there; Lovett said _"Kelly's been lost lately"_ so I also think Chuck was just an excuse to leave her family.
Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. What matters the most is it something worth believing in? That’s the one thing that’ll get you through it. And, that’s what Tom Hanks did.
I'd like to believe it, and it seems plausible. The way movies are written today, I doubt that you could find any subtext at all.
I've watched this amazing movie for over 23 years and just rewatched it a week ago but damn, never thought so deep of her character and that was darker than I expected but it's all damn logical and ... Sad, but yeah. 😅
At least it's sadder for Kelly than Chuck though 😅
I can’t believe Rob Z called you a loser. What a dick move. Tom Hanks was definitely playing a blue pill beta in waiting.
Oh he didn't I was just speaking hypothetically; I'm sure he'd have too much class to say all that (even if he thought it) 😭
The Houston Oilers became Tennessee Titans and Tom Hanks character goes from Tennessee to Texas for the final scene. This cheating theory is a good one.
That's a great point! 😮
The big question is, is Cast Away a Christmas movie because it starts out during the holiday? 😀
I think so! Here in the UK it seems to get played on at least one network during the christmas week: this year it was Channel 4 😅
None of this changes the fact that every time that music starts, I blubber like a 2 year old 😭
I'm not sure I buy every point...the "duck" sounds like a Tom Hanks throat-whistle laugh, for example. But I do believe that the scene is pointedly saying she's not at home, and all that implies. I had noticed the awkward greeting and the look on the "honest woman" guy's face, but never put it all together. Well done! Now that you've pointed out this subplot, it's so obvious. Even the title is Cast Away, not Castaway. I already liked this movie, but this raises it another notch in my estimation.
Thank you! 😃 My grandfather also said that the the noise sounds like a 'dental drill' 😬
@@ExtraCheeseProject What if the noise was from his end. Previous to that phone call he saw that the truck had a boot on it and said "put the table right here and we will just do the sort". As the camera pans around you can see that they brought some sort of small table with them. It's not too far of a stretch to imagine that they may have brought more than just that one table seeing as how small it was. Given the "doppler effect" character of this sound, (the rapid increase in pitch followed by a slower decrease and leveling out into the disappearing of the sound) coupled with the nature of the work they are doing, I would venture to say that they have set up an assembly line style of sorting everything and what we are hearing is a box being slid across a table (think of one of the long plastic picnic tables with the legs that fold up into itself).
@@caseymahlum7772 During my analysis I listened to the ambient noise of that whole scene to try and figure out what the sound might be and I have to say that there's a lot of randomness to the design. Some sounds verge on strange, like when Chuck says _"And I'm gonna see you soon"_ it sounds like there's a robotic female voice speaking in an East Asian language to the right of Chuck, which is inexplicable. They also have cars beeping left and right with tires screeching and no feasible traffic in either direction. All I can say is that the sound design for this scene is a mess, but everything there is there intentionally, so it's my opinion that they put this sound in to signify more than just a sorting table 😬
Sounds like a zipper to me!
@@snorman1911 Are you suggesting that Chuck 'whipped it out' for all to see? 😳
Appeal to authority isn't always a fallacy. It certainly wouldn't be a fallacy in this case.
That depends; Ridley Scott claims that Deckard was a replicant in Blade Runner (1982), but considering that they skip over this in Blade Runner 2049 (2017) I'd say that not many of the other creators agreed, yet Ridley seems to think it's the 'point' of the film and I guess some people agree 👍 There's also the various interpretations of The Babadook (2014) which Jennifer Kent says "were not my intention, but I'm happy to endorse them" (paraphrased).
Personally, I prefer filmmakers like David Lynch who will *never* discuss the _meaning_ of their work 😄
"I drink your milkshake" is such a weird thing for an Endodontist to have on a business card. Weird, like if I listed the top 10,000 things that I would consider putting on my business card, that phrase would not be on the list. Euphemism?
It is a euphemism and one of my favorite lines from 'There Will Be Blood' (2007) 😁
@@ExtraCheeseProject I haven't seen There Will Be Blood, but I honestly thought it was in reference to the Milkshake song by Kelis: My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to charge
and him drinking her milkshake.
@@merryjane7558 That song also crossed my mind! I even thought that 'Kelis' is kinda like 'Kelly's' (milkshake) 😅 So, both quotes apply, but 'There Will Be Blood' is an excellent movie and I'd recommend it to anyone 😃
damn this is a dark ass film. Considering he did Forest Gump to with a women that ues a guy I wonder if he's been cheated on a lot
A while ago someone commented on the first video asking if Tom Hanks ever had a good relationship in a film, I said Carrie Fisher in The 'Burbs (1989), but someone else said Wilson 🏐😅
Man literally drops the ball after spending WAY too much time away at work, comes home to find the dentist drilling his girl...
CAST AWAY indeed😊
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There's an even more sinister meaning of Kelly's last name 'Frears' than celibate monks. The two syllables, 'Fre-ars' sounds like a concatenation of 'free arse', an obvious reference to a wanton woman. 😎
You got a full nose exhale laugh out of me 😤😂🤝
Or it’s “free-er”…someone who sets some one else free. Like chucking a fish back in the ocean.
Bravo, years I said this.. {No, no you're looking to deep}..