Marble fusion: GIANT octahedron (how to epoxy solder marbles)
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- This video will show you how to join marbles together in a way that's fast, easy, and strong. You can use this process to make all sorts of projects for very little expense. Give it a shot: most everything you will need to know is in this video! If you still have questions, please ask- but you can also watch these related videos to help improve your technique:
Marble fusion (epoxy tips, stand builds, and extra projects):
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Epoxy casting with BBs! (to make bookends):
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Marble size sorting machine:
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Buying marbles:
DON'T buy them by the bag! I found mine at a discount warehouse that sells them in bulk. Check around those hole-in-the-wall surplus stores, especially where craft stuff, wedding décor, and fake flowers are sold. Good luck.
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Deriving the Pyramidal sequence's formula:
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Sphere stacking (interesting wiki page):
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Music:
"The Sky of our Ancestors" and "At The Shore"
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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If you enjoyed this, *check out the second-channel video:*
►ruclips.net/video/_ncNHmc3kAw/видео.html
There was way too much here for just one!
Have a great weekend ;)
it's not often that I say this on the internet but thanks
I really enjoy your work keep it up and again thanks
May I be free and ask why a second channel? Could be on this one too just as informative in my opinion :)
You seemed to have a lot of fun doing this. If you haven't already, you may want to check out atomic crystal packing lattice structures. Some of the geometries are as beautiful as they are intricate.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_structure#Classification_by_symmetry
Careful, Its a rabbit hole one could easily get lost in ; )
pocket83 once again great project and beautiful result, so much information and tips like a lecture on geometry and material science, thank you for sharing this!
Make a puzzle
These are stunning. Amazing process and very engaging video! Beautiful.
Thanks, Steve. I appreciate the compliment! I'm kinda proud of these two. Hey, I gave you a (very) brief nod on the second video. Watch it if you get the time.
The lattice shift at the end is making me lose my marbles. Great video!
Reminded me of my favourite sphere-stacking formula: ρ=τ/√72 where rho is the density of the spheres and tau is just there to annoy Matt Parker.
I think this is the video where they talk about that formula: ruclips.net/video/3inLMXcetUA/видео.html
But using Tau, you will make Vi Hart happy.
parker sphere
My brain is not meant for maths... thank god for languages though...
What a great project. Part math, part science, part craft project= maker perfection with a big dash of ZEN. But WHY did you not make a clear version? A clear marble octahedron would be stunning, something I would put on my coffee table. Ok, I get it, it's just a personal preference thing and all that, but the light would shine through it so beautifully. Anyway- there is something so beautiful. as you pointed out, about those welds that look molten. This is a great project and as always you do such an incredible job teaching difficult concepts. You are an excellent teacher- great communication skills and the way you go about showing multiple methods for reaching the same end result is very effective. Ok, enough about you.
By all means, continue showering me with praise! Seriously though, thank you. Simply put, I just couldn't find clear marbles. I leave that to you ;)
can u put a light inside it😅 thats will be cool I think😍
Your videos are so relaxing and interesting. I’m not subscribed to any other channels like this, but I love yours. Keep them coming :)
i was going to do this but I lost my marbles
Really enjoyable build video.
but can it scream and shoot lasers?
One of my first thoughts was "wonder how that would look with a laser shining through it?"
I understand that reference.
*[SCREAMS GEOMETRICALLY]*
I was looking forward to epic explosions and a high body count.
Would be neat to do this with all clear marbles and hook up some sort of RGB to the stand. Great video, Pocket.
You deserve a lot more subs an views
Rubik's bricks (edge connections),
PVC hex board (tiling and glue method!),
Copper and ornaments (metal bending and soldering),
Building block medley (meaningful linkage distance),
Four-piece tetrahedral cannonball puzzle (angle math, puzzle pieces, first epoxy method!),
Geodesic sphere puzzle (benefits of elastic puzzle pieces),
Platonic solid wireframes (math, jigging/rigging, soldering!),
Build of a Flexi (cube) puzzle (piece management, benefits/beauty of similar puzzle pieces),
Marble size sorting (material selection, tool construction),
Epoxy casting with BBs (well, here we are.. The forerunner to epoxy mastery)
8 years of video's man.. You built up to this video for 8 years. That's dedication.
So worth it
This technique would lend itself quite well to some very interesting 3D marble puzzles. Going to have to take a go myself! Thanks for the great vid.
Thank you! Here's one to get you started:
ruclips.net/video/Q4CnL7VdR8o/видео.html
The number of bond in a pyramid follows the formula 2n^3+4n²+2n (n is the number of layers minus one so n=1 gives the number of bonds in a 2 layered pyramid). So the total bonds in the two pyramids are 1184. However to bond them together you use more bonds, 7x7x4 more to be specific. So the total should be 1380 bonds.
Btw where do you get the marbles from
You’re incorrect about the number of glue spots, the formulas are slightly more complicated. The correct number is 1680, here’s how I got it. (Yes, I took the longer way even though there’s probably a much simpler formula)
For every layer itself, when “a” is the number of marbles per side of the layer, to calculate “c”, the number of glue spots;
a * (a - 1) * 2 = c
For the shape he made, with a center square 8 by 8, the total is 560 drops of glue after multiplying each layer and adding them together.
Now, for between the layers. The easiest way to establish the number of glue spots, with “b” representing the number of marbles per side of the center layer;
[(b - 1)^2 + (b - 2)^2 + ...] * 8 = c
The number 8 accounts for each marble outside of the center layer needing 4 dots of glue, as well as there being two layers of each side. The total after calculation, again with the center being 8 wide, equals 1120. Add the 560 from earlier, and your total is 1680. I believe the formula you used was for a three- sided pyramid, not a four- sided.
Master71017 The answer is 1680 but I came up with a different formula for it
To Bwe Oh Not To Bwe, that is the Qwestion
This was a beautiful video
(Not only because you made small ramiel's, one of the angels in neon genesis evangelion, I love ramiel)
I put the one you sent me somewhere where I keep knocking it and it spins and spins and spins, and then drops and it still hasn't broken! :)
Maybe I should've included a spare marble! I'm continuously surprised by how well the process works. The bond is much stronger than you would suppose. I have to ask: what did you think it was when you first saw it? I mean, did you wonder just how the hell I did it?
pocket83 I thought it was for killing wet rot fungus with magical light rays... loI. I knew it was epoxy buy I didn't realise you used capillary action. Funnily I use to use that method with plastic glues all the time at one point. I actually bought some UV glue to try join some marbles myself but I didn't work so well. 😫 I want to make something with marbles too. 😁
These are the kinds of people who actually deserve the viewers and yet they have less viewers than the people who don’t deserve it..
"If your under 2 years of age, you probably shouldn't detect this project." UHHHH
*attempt.
If you wondered how many epoxy connections you would have had to make if you wanted to do all, it would have been 1680. I was bored today so i developed a general formula for calculating the bond number on side length. If you want to know it tell me.
How'd you get that?
I'm a simple man. I see a new pocket83 video, I click like. Love your content
Surreal meme man anyone
Howtung Chong what
T H E. O C T O H E D R O N O F T R A N C E N D EN CE
Dnt trust orang everywan, trust the octahedron
where's the math warning?
Oops! Sorry. Here it is:
*WARNING-*
Learn to utilize mathematics, or else the world will take advantage of you.
Lol
the video is a math warning
I would've laughed if he'd have broken the octahedron while he was testing the connections XD
It wasn't a fair "test." I had already dropped it a dozen times.
huh i took a module on crystal geometry and throughout the video i was like "yeah i know this". then the last scene blew my mind. still can't visualise it
The editing in this video is great! So many great cuts with supporting B roll and many of the shots have wonderful and beautiful composition. All that and I haven't even mentioned the subject of the video. Layers and layers of entertainment, education and instruction. So good.
I’ve been OBSESSED with shapes lately and this is a great project to feed my makers block
SQUID check out Vihart
Simply wonderful! My favourite video of 2018 :)
Marbelous!
I dont understand why u dont have way more subs
*_THE OCTOHEDRON OF T R A N C E N D E N C E_*
Yes, at last! Thank you for keeping at it, I really do enjoy all of them and I really apriciate all the different things you try out. Keep them coming Pocket!
Very high quality video. Great work!!! The larger one's would make a great accent light, or maybe a night light??? BEAUTIFUL!
It's past midnight and I just spent 20 mins watching a guy gluing marbles together...don't regret a second!
There's something oddly calming about your voice. The only ASMR I would watch are these videos.
now i must only TOUCH
Finally, someone of equal intellect.
Elevig AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
*_Indeed._*
how would a marble pack have the same Colors but different sizes?
Always excited when you upload again
Good job, really liking your resin and marble vids man
checkout: ruclips.net/video/TaHhHwzjn-8/видео.html
Awesome! I was somewhat amazed at how well the epoxy flowed into the contact points and stayed there. I wouldn't have guessed they could be that clean and neat, I'd have expected a lot of scraping and cleanup... It was like a well soldered joint, when the solder just flows in perfectly, no drips, no mess. Excellent as always! As a side thought, you should look into sharing your musings, ideas, etc. on Steemit. Ya may be a great fit there, and ya could earn a few (or more) bucks as well.
It is *SO* much like soldering, isn't it? That's why I titled it epoxy-soldering. Give it a try- the joints are also surprisingly strong. I don't know what Steemit is, but I'll search it when I get a moment.
TBH, I didn't even notice the "epoxy-solder" in the title...I see Pocket videos and I just click. When I went to your second video, I realized the majority of my comment here was just rehashing what you'd already stated. As for Steemit, I'm just really starting to look into it myself, so I'd probably do a poor job explaining it, but I think it could be really good for a thoughtful, insightful, creative content creator like yourself, and may consume less time than making and editing these 20+min. videos and potentially a better monetary reward for ya. I've got no skin in the game there, so this really is just me sharing something I find potentially helpful for someone like yourself. Cheers!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Always a pleasure.
Thanks! This one is worth a try. Great result, and super easy.
Dammit! Now I have stupid idea stuck in my head with no way to execute it in the near future...
You can do this. This is not beyond you.
Pocket, as usual, a very fun and educational video! Thanks for all your hard work. I hate you now because I really wanna make one ;)
Where did you source your marbles? It seems cost prohibitive if one can't find a wholesale provider.
Thanks!
There's a discount warehouse not far from here that sells them in bulk. *DON'T buy them by the bag.* I still spent $50, but that's for an unreasonable amount. Check around those hole-in-the-wall surplus stores, especially where craft stuff and fake flowers are sold. Good luck. You will love this project!
Thanks for the tip. Also, did you do a video on your heat gun stand? I love the way it looks and would love to have one myself.
Thanks Pocket!
Nope, sorry. Just make it heavy, and give it a wide stance. I made mine from an old valve, but I'd bet that a piece of 2" pipe could work well enough, or maybe even a used can.
Vsauce Michael here
this is just, relaxing
POCKET IS BACK !!!
he was always here! check out his 2nd channel!
you kinda sound like Nile Red.
Hey that me.
Awesome video, love the end achievement!
What are the 240 people who disliked this awesome video thinking of??
That's actually a really good ratio! It's far fewer than 1 out of every 1,000. Maybe they're jealous because they've lost all of their marbles.
pocket83, the first time the video creator answered my question
A bit about the formulas for some of these figurate numbers - which are numbers of identical objects arranged in the form of some geometric figure - 3 common examples being square, cubic, and triangular numbers.
The formulas:
Triangle . . . . . . . . . . . . ∆(n) = ½n(n+1)
Triangular pyramid. . . P₃(n) = ⅙n(n+1)(n+2)
Square pyramid . . . . . P₄(n) = ⅙n(n+1)(2n+1)
Regular octahedron . . O(n) = ⅓n(2n²+1)
The triangular numbers, ∆(n), are just made from the arithmetic series, 1+2+3+...+n.
Perhaps the 'slickest' way to find the formula is to write the same series, in reverse order, lined up under the original.
Then each column of 2 numbers sums to n+1, and there are n such sums, so the sum of all 2n numbers is n(n+1).
But that's double the series sum we want, so just take half: ∆(n) = ½n(n+1)
Those and the triangular pyramidal numbers, and all their higher-dimension analogs, are found in Pascal's Triangle, in successive diagonal columns. Not that you'll be making any of these of dimension, k, higher than 3 out of k-dimensional marbles any time soon, but the formula would just be n(n+1)(n+2)...(n+k-1)/k! = (n+k-1)!/[(n-1)! k!] = C(n+k-1, k).
[NB: n! means n factorial, which is the product of all the integers from 1 to n. Ex: 5! = 1·2·3·4·5 = 120.]
The square pyramidal numbers are more involved to get the formula for, but there's a neat trick for finding the sum of the first n k'th powers, given the formulas for sums of all the lower powers.
As for the octahedral numbers, as pocket83 points out, just add one square pyramid to the one with one less on its base edge:
O(n) = P₄(n) + P₄(n-1) = ⅙n(n+1)(2n+1) + ⅙n(n-1)(2n-1)
= ⅙n[(n+1)(2n+1) + (n-1)(2n-1)]
= ⅙n[2n²+3n+1 + 2n²-3n+1]
= ⅓n(2n²+1)
you're like....crazy man super wizard crafty genius smart. holy bananas. and did i mention infinitely patient? just.....wowzers. golly gee willakers. o_o
Your videography was phenomenal in this project. Along with an interesting project to begin with, you simply make videos that are just so pleasing to watch.
Thanks for taking the time to bring us such cool ideas and great videos!
Thumbs up from Biker’s Garage 101
Yay, chemistry ABA and ABC crystal latices. Reminds me of Stewart Coffin's Three piece block puzzle from over 40 years ago. www.cs.brandeis.edu/~storer/JimPuzzles/ZPAGES/zzzThreePieceBlock.html
😀😀
That's really nice and the ending with the lattice structure is the best part.
I'm unable to build this project as I've lost my marbles MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Ok Seriously... I was randomly watching this vijeo and I gotta say. Your presentation was ideal for my particular attention span/type. Interested from start to finish.. Then, after it was over. You jaw-dropped me. I've seen it on paper. Full comprehension. However your simple nonchalant lattice shift, at the end.... It was just so "here, look. See?".... Bravo. Subscribed. Keep it up. Onto more of your vids.
16:40 I want to say 1524 connections for the 344 octahedron but I’m probably wrong because I used Reese’s Puffs to try and help me visualize some of the scenarios and they kept crumbling in my fingers
In a “bulk” each marble will have 12 neighbors but to reduce double counting divide by 2, giving 6 connections or bonds (because marble A connection with marble B and marble B connection with marble A are the same)
344*6=2064
Now we have the faces, we have 8 faces or triangles with a base of 8 spheres that have 36 marbles in them and a surface marble will have 3 less neighbors than an inner marble so 3/2 less connections
36*3/2*8=432
Each edge marble on the surface will have 2 less neighbors than a surface marble or 1 less connection than a surface marble with there being 12 edges in total with 8 marbles in an edge
8 marbles * 12 edges * 1 connection= 96
On each edge, there are vertex marbles that have 4 less neighbors or rather 2 less connections than an edge marble and we have 6 vertices with one marble at each vertex
1 marble * 6 vertices * 2 connections =12
“Whittling” down we get
2064 - 432 - 96 - 12 = 1524 connections
I’m am almost definitely wrong, but this is about as much effort as I am willing to put into a RUclips comment at the moment
Ha, now that you mentioned the logo thing, that's quite obvious...
Quite interesting the way you sorted everything with the glass.
Are you going to build the other 3 Platonic Solids?
1:35 No, Pocket, it’s a pleonasm.
Wow, another smart person on the internet. Who would've thinked it? Except for that your correction fails to negate my own, and that your point is only a piece of useless semantical minutia, you might have scored on me there. Eh, go for it; pray tell me how smart you are, and see if you can find any grammatical errors in what I've just written here. Be careful, Professor: some things that are stylistic choices need not always be considered errors.
Impressive.
You know what else is inexpensive? Golf balls.
Also, in sphere based constructions of platonic solids, how would you go about constructing a dodecahedron? Tetra-, octa-, and icosa- hedra all have equilateral triangular faces, and hexahedra has square faces, all of which can be easily constructed from spheres of the same size. But I'm not sure how you'd do pentagonal faces, since tessellating them into five equal triangles gives you isosceles triangles with sides of 17, 17, and 20, with no lattice to fill them.
If you find a way to make a solid platonic dodecahedron from similarly sized marbles, it'd be cool to see your take on it.
Realized your voice sounds quite similar to the Wintergatan guy (Martin), or maybe it's just my brain doing the connection since he's building a marble machine...
Hey man, i love your video.. i really do.. it's really calming and informative..
But you lost me on the maths, only if i'm not this stupid, i'll rate your video 10/10 for the enjoyable, creative, and informative content..
But i subscribe! Nice channel
Great! Looks very satisfying.
Thank you for sharing.
How about to leave a first not glued gap and empty the inside from the not glued marbles. Could give a nice optical effect afterwards.
May you could add a light inside then.
Greets and best wishes from Germany
El
Must be cool to be comfortable enough with math to work it into your hobbies like that. (Jealous? Me? _Yes._ Very.) Cool process, and the finished project looks amazing. Nice.
In 16:42 pocket83 says "If you were to make every possible connection just how many would there be?" I did the math and it would be (in my calculations) 1,680 connections but I don`t have very much faith in my math so I want you guy to find a fault in my calculations (:
I was actually just going back through infinite series to brush up. This vid was dropped at the perfect time. Now i feel the need to go look into crystal structures again. These builds are oddly satisfying.
This is your best video, on many levels. Cinematography, math, design ... you’ve nailed it all. It’s not even my favorite of your projects. But damn ... it’s so so good.
You're tempting me to try this again, dammit!!! I found out that super glue isn't so super, never thought of warming the marbles, so epoxy didn't work either, and sizing the marbles seemed so tedious! Watching your video showed me that a certain amount of tediosity might be a good investment..... My main different approach will be to do the glue-up in layers, so all marbles have all contact points glued.
2 little ideas;
1st, I believe you can bypass the core marble at the very center and put a white LED light in it's place (Don't really know if you can drill inside a glass marble and put a LED inside, but congrats if you can do it). Of course by adding long wires to the LED, you can continue the same way for the project until the end and after it's finished you can connect it with an external battery and have it turned into a great desk lamp.
2nd, I think if you'd used the same Light Blue marbles in the core and Red marbles on the outside instead of Green ones would've been visually better.
Keep being awesome!
this reminds me of this one game I've been playing, opus magnum.
store.steampowered.com/app/558990/Opus_Magnum/
I've put a good 40+ hours into it and I love it. The whole marble binding thing just really correlates to the game. especially considering there's a minigame all about marbles! anyways, great video.
I thoroughly enjoyed your building of these marble pyramids, and they are so beautiful! Also I must say which is embarrassing, I am absolutely horrible at math. But I gotta tell you, you explained it so well that I actually understood what you meant!! I can’t wait to try making these. I’m going to check out your other channel also, I’m sure you will be teaching me a lot more projects. And “math” 🤯 Thank you very much for taking the time to make this video and your great explanation of how too!!
Loved it nice to watch and there are multiple colors mixes you can make, the sky is the limit....... Why don't you try to make A square in a square...... If you know what I mean 👊👊
A brilliant art form and well executed!
Thank you for sharing your process.
I️ have a feeling I️ will be unlocking an achievement someday soon!
Really cool! I very much enjoyed your presentation... very delightful to watch. May God continue to richly bless all that you put your hands to accomplish.
I'm so glad I found your channels. I've been bored with youtube lately and looking for unique channels. I get the odd feeling that you might be a serial killer or something, or maybe a former CIA operative I don't know, but the way you flow from one thought to the other is...different...and I like it.
There's so much more just under the surface, I want to know more..
Hey man great work as always. Been a while me thinks. Good to see you back at it. So now i have an idea on how to make one hollow. Lighter weight. Think you might build something with hexagons made with marbles? Hmm.. might be kinda big tho. Geodesic maybe.
This is an absolutely outstanding video with a quality way above most of what is found on RUclips. Your knowledge, accuracy and creativity are hard to beat. Thank you very much for sharing, those marble patterns are just beautiful!
This video was really interesting, and fun to watch. It's interesting to see how different people approach things differently. You took a mathematical approach, while if someone told me to make a geometric shape like this...I'd probably just sit down with the marbles and work it out piece by piece, fitting them together until they were the shape I wanted. No math involved, just hands on experimenting, and fitting marbles together like a puzzle.
Neither way is wrong, and that's what cool about getting to see how someone tackles a project like this.
Henlo, orang, I HAVE FOUND THE OCTAHEDRON
Now we can unleash its power!
-Meme man
I am starting a project to make all the regular 3D shapes. However, I want to make them in interesting ways, like the Golden ratio icosahedron. Any suggestions welcome, I have done the icosahedron and dodecahedron. I am most comfortable 3D printing and gluing
Very nice. Very pretty. Hate math. Too right brained. Enough space in between to place small l.e.d's? My right brain saw l.e.d's, a pyramid with outer casing that just went half way up and the whole thing floating on one of those floating platform things that made it turn round slowly in mid air. That probably can't be done, But one can imagine, I suppose. Thanks for sharing your art and even your math.
Fantastic!! Would look great with an LED buried in the middle and shining through.... Great video, love your work!
Great to see you back!
I find myself having a bit of an idea with this... Using the marbles as you did in the big polygon, see about avoiding gluing all middle ones in, so that after you have one side done, you can lift it up and have it hollow. maybe even fish in some power to have a light in the middle.another idea is making 8 triangles, 2 layers thick, and gluing those together.
Hmmm, Now to add a Neopixel LED to the centre of an uncoloured octahedron and use an Arduino mini to control the colour patterns. Add multiple LEDs for light animations... So many possibilities.
This project is begging for an internal button cell LED. If I didn't have so many projects on my docket I'd add this one. Maybe I'll 3d print a jig and sizer then pass it along to the grand kids for this project. Great video.
So beautiful
"dealing with playdough,...shouldn't do this if i'm under 2 years of age"
i'm one and survived the tidepod challenge; alittle playdough ain't gonna kill me
I had subscribed to you a loooooong time ago. Your videos have always been great but they have also improved so much. You go into great detail and your projects are always exciting. And then there's a bit of philosophy & geometry too :) thanks!
I can't do advanced math, but I love how these glisten. You should make whole panels framed in wood made from epoxy-fused marbles of different colors.
I was just watching some of your older videos when I got this in my recommended section. I was actually thinking about fusing marbles like this to create one of those pyramid puzzles for my kids.
The amount of effort you put into these projects is inspiring. Not only the end product, but the effort to simplify the process and make it accessible to anyone.
To prep your 'starter layer' (no matter what size) you should get a jig made with a perfect right angle that you can pivot on a single corner.
Milled or laser cut aluminium would be a perfect solution for your jig as you can remove glue/epoxy from a metal surface easier than wood and thinners won't destroy metal.
" you want it to be a perfect as you can make it" dude JUST USE A RULER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Just how strong are these connections? They’re very strong.” Don’t you just love when people ask questions then answer them indelicately?