Completely forgot I already watched this! They are probably the coolest GA plane. I kind of have a love/ hate relationship with them but I think it’s mostly envy. My wife would LOVE it if I could afford one
Maybe someday. One good thing about Cirrus for all us non-rich guys is that each time a new Gx version comes out the older ones.drop in value. Maybe I can get a G2 by the time the G37 arrives
Cirrus sells more planes than all others combined in each of their respective niches for the SR20 (trainer), SR22 (lower cost cross country), SR22T (mountain and full cross country flyer) and the SF50, VLJ jet. Why? Because they are high quality, backed by a strong company, first-rate training, safety, power, the best compromise of features and price.
@@justinsk1 What foreign ownership. Cirrus is in Diluth, MN. Their airframes are molded in N. Dakota, their main manufacturing in Diluth, their training and delivery center in TN. Chinese investors own a majority of the company since 2011, but none of them work in the company.
@@speedomars "Chinese investors own a majority of the company since 2011, but none of them work in the company." That's the definition of "foreign ownership."
@@airops423 In 2001, Cirrus sold a majority of the company to Bahrain-based Arcapita Group. Ten years later, the manufacturer was acquired by China Aviation Industry General Aircraft (CAIGA), which is a division of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) So what's your point? As I said, it's an investment only. The company is private. It has no Chinese involved at any level of the management or operation of the company. Nor does it have any Chinese nationals working on the manufacturing floor.
The $950k version is new so has a warranty and a year or two of annuals included. Also free training from the factory. Friend has one coming up on a year and has only bought tires, fuel, oil and oxygen fills. 300+ hrs. No squawks. Oh, the databases for the G1000 are $1200/yr
Out here 2am binging these videos, i love em, defo gt a sub. Would you ever do the Vision Jet? I probably would never own one but they are cool little things. For that money though I feel there's slightly better options w similar performance
After you purchase the 22t at 800k here is a ruff break down down payment 200k 20yr loan est. yearly cost assuming that you fly about 15 hrs a month /180 hrs a year loan payment 63,600 hanger 5000, ins 1500 ,annual 6000, fuel cost 19,500,oil 400, general maint 4500 all in 2 fly 180 hrs a year 100,084.00 = 556.02 per hour roughly 8300 per month .And who said GA was not expensive.
Thanks for sharing! If you take your numbers and remove the load payment, which i don't include it works out to $206/hour @ 180 hours. I quoted $254/hour @ 100 hours and $188/hour @ 200 hours. We're pretty well exactly lined up
@@CompleteWalkaround yep, i own one my buddies all joke about the plastic airplane ,until they get in it g1000 ,ac chute i could go on . lastly i figure about 18gph at max cruise 7500 to 9000 agl 180knts approx.
Thank you for posting but some of your information needs clarification. You should clarify on what model you are talking about and what year. A $350k SR22 does not have the same insurance rates as a new one (a 2022 SR22T will set you back over $1m and insurance for that is $8500). Hangar expenses can be as much as $1500 a month at premium locations and there is a multi year waiting list. Fuel burn for a SR22T is 18gph avg (37 gph on climb, 16.5 in cruise) , a 22 non turbo is 15 if flown lean of peak. Useful load on a 22T (G5 & G6) is 1100 lbs and 1200 for a non-turbo. I have a bunch of hours in both models and have one on order. Great planes
You're right. I think the comparison happens because of the similarity is mission. Also, that these are both top of the line GA planes - single and twin. That includes Piper M350, which I think people rightfully rank lower than SR22 overall, even though M350 has more performance. Finally, wrt the difference in cost, I tend to think those of us who are lucky enough to be shopping for these sorts of planes aren't dwelling too too hard on the price :)
Is it legal to remove the chute, will it remain airworthy? Or will it FUBAR the W&B? At 1030 lbs useful load it's kinda like a C-172. Not a 4-seater with cargo space.
DA-40 and RV-10 seem to be better though. DA-40: same useful load, yes it's a bit slower, but also much cheaper per mile. RV-10 also cheaper per mile, I think similar speed. Neither have air conditioning though... I mean the RV-10 being experimental I guess you can put in whatever fits, but I highly doubt any builder did. Also neither have the chute which, but some $150k light-sports like the PiperSport and Sling-2 do have a chute without breaking the bank
Your GPH seems a bit optimistic. Example from the POH: “Outside Air Temp ...................... 29° C RPM ................................. 2700 RPM Cruise Press Alt .................... 8000 FT % Power (24.0 MAP)................... 75% True Airspeed..................... 178 Knots Fuel Flow ........................... 17.7 GPH” 17.7 gph x around $5.5 ≈ $100/hr for fuel
Honestly I've never understood the success of the Cirrus. Someone please enlighten me. It isn't the best performing aircraft, burns too much fuel for its own good, and it's safety is overrated (not to mention price). If anyone of you owns one, change my mind
It's simple. If you want a fast modern looking plane built out of composites and it needs to come with one engine and four seats you have only one choice for under a million dollars. Unless you're willing to dabble with experimentals that is.
@@christopherhand4836 Keep trying...one day you may own an aircraft. But you can't buy a Cirrus on a middle class and below income...so you will just have to dream.
Love these videos, can't wait to see this channel blow up.
I like your enthusiasm 😁
Wait for it...
Likewise! 💪
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Completely forgot I already watched this! They are probably the coolest GA plane. I kind of have a love/ hate relationship with them but I think it’s mostly envy. My wife would LOVE it if I could afford one
Maybe someday. One good thing about Cirrus for all us non-rich guys is that each time a new Gx version comes out the older ones.drop in value.
Maybe I can get a G2 by the time the G37 arrives
@@CompleteWalkaround and I’ll buy your RV!
Your motion graphics are pretty slick. And the narration is weirdly calming lol
I really enjoy seeing these videos! It really puts things into perspective. Would love to see one on the Ercoupe.
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These are really fun videos. I vote on the living legend, 601P Aerostar.
The airport near me charges $9,600 per year for a hangar lol
Cirrus sells more planes than all others combined in each of their respective niches for the SR20 (trainer), SR22 (lower cost cross country), SR22T (mountain and full cross country flyer) and the SF50, VLJ jet. Why? Because they are high quality, backed by a strong company, first-rate training, safety, power, the best compromise of features and price.
I would gladly use an SR20 as cross country too. Cruise 150kts+
Will that change with foreign ownership?
@@justinsk1 What foreign ownership. Cirrus is in Diluth, MN. Their airframes are molded in N. Dakota, their main manufacturing in Diluth, their training and delivery center in TN. Chinese investors own a majority of the company since 2011, but none of them work in the company.
@@speedomars "Chinese investors own a majority of the company since 2011, but none of them work in the company." That's the definition of "foreign ownership."
@@airops423 In 2001, Cirrus sold a majority of the company to Bahrain-based Arcapita Group. Ten years later, the manufacturer was acquired by China Aviation Industry General Aircraft (CAIGA), which is a division of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC)
So what's your point? As I said, it's an investment only. The company is private. It has no Chinese involved at any level of the management or operation of the company. Nor does it have any Chinese nationals working on the manufacturing floor.
I'd love to see one on the Piper Malibu Mirage!
Pipers are overpriced. Cirrus outsells them all by 3x1.
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I keep coming back to these videos so many times thinking about the moment I'll be able to afford my own plane
One day
Perfect and precise video
Great job thanks
Thanks for making these videos!
The $950k version is new so has a warranty and a year or two of annuals included. Also free training from the factory. Friend has one coming up on a year and has only bought tires, fuel, oil and oxygen fills. 300+ hrs. No squawks. Oh, the databases for the G1000 are $1200/yr
Ouch on the G1000 database but they're worth it. After 200+ hours with a G1000, I fell in love with the available information
Lmao the ending cracked me up. Love this format!
Out here 2am binging these videos, i love em, defo gt a sub. Would you ever do the Vision Jet? I probably would never own one but they are cool little things. For that money though I feel there's slightly better options w similar performance
Can you do one for the SR20
You need to do the Bearhawk 4 Place!! ❤❤
Would you do a video on the GB1 Gamebird?
Good golly this channel is so cool
After you purchase the 22t at 800k here is a ruff break down
down payment 200k 20yr loan est.
yearly cost assuming that you fly about 15 hrs a month /180 hrs a year
loan payment 63,600 hanger 5000, ins 1500 ,annual 6000, fuel cost 19,500,oil 400, general maint 4500 all in 2 fly 180 hrs a year 100,084.00 = 556.02 per hour
roughly 8300 per month
.And who said GA was not expensive.
Thanks for sharing! If you take your numbers and remove the load payment, which i don't include it works out to $206/hour @ 180 hours. I quoted $254/hour @ 100 hours and $188/hour @ 200 hours. We're pretty well exactly lined up
@@CompleteWalkaround yep, i own one my buddies all joke about the plastic airplane ,until they get in it g1000 ,ac chute i could go on . lastly i figure about 18gph at max cruise 7500 to 9000 agl 180knts approx.
Love to see a 185
Nice, can you da a Diamond DA62
This was ALSO a great video!
Let's take a look at the CH77 next :)
Can you do one on Pipistrel Alpha Electro
Electric planes are for pattern work only. A joke really.
Thank you for posting but some of your information needs clarification. You should clarify on what model you are talking about and what year. A $350k SR22 does not have the same insurance rates as a new one (a 2022 SR22T will set you back over $1m and insurance for that is $8500). Hangar expenses can be as much as $1500 a month at premium locations and there is a multi year waiting list. Fuel burn for a SR22T is 18gph avg (37 gph on climb, 16.5 in cruise) , a 22 non turbo is 15 if flown lean of peak. Useful load on a 22T (G5 & G6) is 1100 lbs and 1200 for a non-turbo. I have a bunch of hours in both models and have one on order. Great planes
Hi, These numbers are an average of various SR 22s. SR22T will be need to be another video. Thanks for watching.
So, one has to have obscene amounts of money to own and operate. But if I did have obscene amounts of money the SR22T would be on my short list
Hey can you do PBY-5 and or p51 sorry if I’m asking for much
Interesting picks! I'll put them on the extended list
Do a Cessna 140/120
It's strange people compare this to a DA-62 which costs 50% more. Sure GPH might be similar but you're still paying to maintain double the engine.
You're right. I think the comparison happens because of the similarity is mission. Also, that these are both top of the line GA planes - single and twin. That includes Piper M350, which I think people rightfully rank lower than SR22 overall, even though M350 has more performance. Finally, wrt the difference in cost, I tend to think those of us who are lucky enough to be shopping for these sorts of planes aren't dwelling too too hard on the price :)
How about a Socata TB20
If you did a pby Catalina I might have to sub
Pretty tempting stuff 🙃
RV-10, please! It's basically an experimental SR22.
next Beech Bonanza ? (F33A)
Is it legal to remove the chute, will it remain airworthy? Or will it FUBAR the W&B? At 1030 lbs useful load it's kinda like a C-172. Not a 4-seater with cargo space.
i believe the plane isnt legally air-worthy without the parachute because it's very difficult to get the cirrus out of a spin
It’s not legal to remove. Part of its TCDS - certification
Cost of ownership of a glider?
Do the T6!
So if they come up with a "rotary" engine will it still be the SR?
Very likely. Since rotary engines are also reciprocating. 😉
DA-40 and RV-10 seem to be better though. DA-40: same useful load, yes it's a bit slower, but also much cheaper per mile.
RV-10 also cheaper per mile, I think similar speed.
Neither have air conditioning though... I mean the RV-10 being experimental I guess you can put in whatever fits, but I highly doubt any builder did.
Also neither have the chute which, but some $150k light-sports like the PiperSport and Sling-2 do have a chute without breaking the bank
Next get the Cirrus Vision (if those numbers are even available)
$100k fixed annual. $500 per hr. 200 hrs/yr
I guess I’m not going to be able to get one now. On 65k income
Da-40 and Da-50
Not much data on the 50 yet. 40 is a good one
@@CompleteWalkaround Sonds good, Thanks for replying!
Cherokee 6 would be another good one.
@@zacclifton5479 Agreed, thanks for watching
@@CompleteWalkaround da62 is awesome as well :)
I would love to see this on the DA20
I have flown both the 20 and 22. They are nice, but considering the Chinese government now owns Cirrus, you won’t catch me buying one.
Assuming you pay cash and don’t have a loan payment.
Now do the SR20
>average Joe airplane
No
Such
Thing
Your GPH seems a bit optimistic. Example from the POH:
“Outside Air Temp ...................... 29° C RPM ................................. 2700 RPM Cruise Press Alt .................... 8000 FT
% Power (24.0 MAP)................... 75% True Airspeed..................... 178 Knots Fuel Flow ........................... 17.7 GPH”
17.7 gph x around $5.5 ≈ $100/hr for fuel
Doors are for security, not looks!
And to keep your hair straight
I rather buy da62
Screw that, if im spendin a million, ill get a da62. Safety of 2 engines, 7 seat, jet fuel and 11 gph combined at cruise
Cost to own a Cirrus, a lot of money. Better be loaded.
Honestly I've never understood the success of the Cirrus. Someone please enlighten me. It isn't the best performing aircraft, burns too much fuel for its own good, and it's safety is overrated (not to mention price). If anyone of you owns one, change my mind
It's simple. If you want a fast modern looking plane built out of composites and it needs to come with one engine and four seats you have only one choice for under a million dollars. Unless you're willing to dabble with experimentals that is.
It’s junk
It is by far the best GA aircraft made...all others are wannabeez.
@@speedomars it’s by far the best junk ever
@@christopherhand4836 Keep trying...one day you may own an aircraft. But you can't buy a Cirrus on a middle class and below income...so you will just have to dream.
@@speedomars 🤣🤣🤣who would won’t SR junk just for pussy pilots like you punk boy. You can’t afford toy plane