Vidcon 2016 Explained
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- Опубликовано: 4 мар 2023
- I hope this helps anyone that was confused or upset feel better about the situation.
Note: Due to feedback in the comments, I edited out the portion of the video that shared the hate comments I had received. 
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Used hashtag face reveal, ignored her request and work she put in to edit her face, never commented on it until years later. He absolutely wanted to show her face to increase his views and his excuse is he wanted to help her get over her insecurities like he could fix her with that lol.
@Jay Blue Even if he is, that was not the way to do it. He might not have known much about mental health at the time, but I don’t know anyone who would be okay doing this except people who don’t understand boundaries.
I do hope that Alex has learned his lesson and got better. He has made videos about his own mental struggles, without ever mentioning feeling bad for what he had done to Jaiden.
I didn’t watch this video because the ads were on too.
lmao the hastag is disgusting
It's clear he doesn't really care because he said he deleted them immediately showing he knew he was in the wrong there. But only did this apology when he started getting a lot of hate. If he cared so much he would apologized after deleting the videos...
@@joetastic5564ok
But like. Jaiden didn’t need to explain their trauma and stuff for you to understand that they didn’t want their face in the video. You’re still in the wrong.
she gave consent like what?
are you stupid? she clearly said she was fine with him posting, he isn’t a empath he thought he was helping boost someone’s confidence
@@Alex-vh7tgHave you ever been in a position where you don’t want to upset a person, so you say yes as to not have confrontation? That’s what happened here. That is not full consent. Jaiden said from the beginning, and she said this herself, that she DID NOT want her face in the videos. She even edited the video herself to take off her face. Alex then went and said “nah, Ima use the original video.” That is not consent, that is being a bad friend for views. Alex is in the wrong.
@@youtube-rebel To be fair Alex said he talked it out with her trying to convince her she didn't need to be held back by the fear of her face online. He was trying to lift her spirits in a sense.
That doesn't make what he did alright, just it was more than simply ignoring Jaiden since however it came out he didn't upload til Jaiden said she'd be okay with it.
@@Alex-vh7tg she didn’t give consent like what
It has taken you 7 whole years to realize you messed up and really hurt a friend in a vulnerable place? Okay, man…
He realised right away and immediately apologised to Jaiden in private. This video was just uploaded to quell all the continuing hate towards him for the incident 7 years ago
This was no apology, this was him trying to get hate off of his back. Less than half the video was about the incident, the rest was him trying to make people like him. It was a very icky video
@@georgepigstan1018 yea because he apologized in private
@@georgepigstan1018 it not us to judge the situation but jaiden
@@Mateo_A0 i agree it is for her to accept the apology or not, i am not refusing it on her behalf. I am more so saying what people seem to be missing and that is the reason he made this video in the first place
cant believe it took 7 years for this video though. Crazy
I agree. But hey better late than never I suppose.
Yeah it took 6 year to the drama to resurface crazy right
He literally could’ve just tweeted “I already talked to Hayden and apologized in private” a WHILE ago
@@thatoneduck1331 still no need for hate on him, he felt bad about the situation and it just took him a while to come out about what he was going through. In my opinion, I would be too afraid to even post a video like this because of the hate it would get even after apologizing like the hurtful comments people say to him after a mistake he didn't even mean to make.
like he said he apologized 7 years ago to Jaiden privately and he decided to kept it that way, im not justifying him but I mean he didn't need to make this video he only did it cause people were asking for it, but as far as I get it, he and Jaiden already talk about it and it was private
this coulda all been avoided if you weren’t narcissistic and respected her💀
@@Terpster77if you think that a friend Is someone who is narcissistic and doesn’t respect you then there is something sincerely wrong
But she agreed to it
Bro took so long that 💀 is a laughing emoji now 💀
its crazy that it took SEVEN years to address this topic lmao wtf
He hoped he could have it all forgotten because being accountable isn't his thing.
Fr
Crazy how after 7 years people still care about drama they had no part of in the first place. And they dont have lives so they come and hate on people over the internet LMAOOO Like grow up a little??
This is something private they talked about.
Hes just addressing it so people would stop the false rumours and making him look bad
@@epicmcwildtbn Im sure they addressed this in private but they are both public figures, if he wanted so badly for people to not think badly of him maybe he should have done this video like idk, 7 years ago??? Just explain himself and move on.
Maybe her explaining her eating disorder should've been the ethical "no, she's clearly uncomfortable if she has to explain her trauma" to include her face in it.
No way bro said he didn’t think using a hashtag for Jaiden’s face reveal wouldn’t give him more views. You had an anonymous animator’s face in your video, who’s face had been a PURPOSEFUL mystery up to that point. You then advertised the video as having Jaiden’s face, and didn’t think it’d help the performance at all? That’s impressive, I guess
Yeah, he’s just a blatant liar. Actually a worthless pos person it seems.
Fr
“My instinct was to support and comfort her” is just a twisted way of saying “I didn’t like it so I disregarded her feelings”
How did you get that he didnt know the extent of what was going on and when he realized he took it down
@@gizzylost3101only took 7 whole years to realize…
I haven’t seen like anyone talking about this, and feels like it needs to be said. The whole “she agreed, and I posted the video with her full consent.” Doesn’t sit right with me. It wasn’t consent in my honest opinion. She said no, and explained why, you then put her in an semi-awkward situation to say, “it will help you overcome. The decision is up to you.” Especially considering the fact she has anxiety, I’m gonna assume she just didn’t wanna be a bother at that point idk… It felt like peer pressure in a way. But that’s just my take on it 🤷
Fr. At that point in time Jaiden was really just trying to avoid conflict and as she already told him, incredibly insecure. Thats why trying to "convince" her to show her face would obviously end with him walking all over her because she simply couldnt say no. Even if unintentional, it was just a shitty thing to do.
This doesn't make sense. You're basically saying she said yes but at the same time that same yes meant no. Part of an interaction and conversation is open communication. If Alex Clark made a suggestion and Jaiden said yes but was uncomfortable with it, then it is her sole fault. She's facing the repercussions of her decision. She may have said yes and at the time been unsure of it, or maybe she regretted it later. In any case, she should have been open about it and communicated more effectively.
No... she told him beforehand that having her face in the video made her uncomfortable and asked to blur it out herself. Why would she go out of her way to blur it out if she was comfortable with it in the first place. She did communicate with him and told him how she was struggling, hence the "I need to share something personal with you." While it might have been well intentioned it was definitely the wrong thing to do.
@@luckygreen9061 Yeah so you made no mention of how her social anxiety or self-esteem issues would throw a wrench in that so I'm gonna give you the benefit of assuming you just don't understand them. Actions speak. If someone proposes an entire edited version of a video (which is a LOT of work) to address one of their insecurities, you know they care. An unenthusiastic yes, sure is technically a yes, but you know it's not a real yes and any adult should understand how coercion can happen
Yeah no I was going to comment about this too, but you took the words out of my brain. Ive been there before... The only reason she doubled back was probably because she felt awkward af when who someone she thought was going to support her, basically told her to "get over it". Not actually, but in her mind set back then her thoughts probably took over.
the segment where he just lists off hate comments is sending me 💀💀💀
Fr like that was the only part of the video where he showed emotion 😂
STOP
“The internet is supposed to be a community….. and I don’t feel part of it.. “😢😭😕😞😔😣😖😢😭
Everyone, consent is not considered consent if you force them to agree with it. Manipulation, being pushy, tricking people into saying "yes" is not consent
I don't want people to think he manipulated her since I mentioned manipulation. The things I listed were examples of making someone "consent", not what Alex did. He didn't manipulate her, he just didn't accept Jaiden wanting her face to be blurred since he wanted to help her be less shy about it, so she accepted it because she couldn't do anything about it, he already had the video of her
He's been justifying the fact that he posted it because "she said yes". He has thanked people for standing up to him saying that jaiden said yes anyway and in this video he's like "she said yes, see? She even said it in her video" as if it was justifiable to post it because he wouldnt budge about posting the revealing video. He didnt take no for an answer, she never gave him consent to post it in general, she just gave up. He hasnt fully owned up to his mistakes
@@zipinzooni4868 aye if she said yes she said yes
Being coerced or pressured into saying ‘yes’ isn’t consent. Jaden was put into a position where she decided the least resistance was best. She did not consent, she just realized she wouldn’t be listened to either way.
@@chakatsi3476kid, just don't say anything if you don't know anything on the matters or can't relate. Stop making yourself look like an idiot.
@@Victori. we lack the information on whether she was actually pressured into doing so as we do not have access to the texts. This whole guilty until proven innocent shit needs to stop.
She told you she was uncomfortable, edited the video, and you still posted it.
She was also your friend, and I can’t imagine ever drawing my friend who I knew struggled with an ED crying while eating pizza. Even if it was a misjudgement and you forgot, how?? I just can’t understand how you could forget something that significant.
An apology explaining your side is one thing, and admitting your wrongdoings and apologizing is commendable, but to add a section near the end of the video ‘struggling’ to read through hate comments takes away from it.
This wasn’t a video for you to talk about all the bad things that’ve happened to you because of the situation or to talk about how some people should know better then to send death threats which of course no one deserves.
It was to apologize, which you did but then you went on to point out all the reasons that you ‘weren’t really in the wrong’
And adding ‘jaiden face reveal’ in tags was an accident? Someone who didnt show their face at all on the channel, and who said was uncomfortable with that.
Anyone who posts or watches videos on RUclips would know that would gain more views/clicks.
IMO it just seems manipulative and for sympathy. This happened in 2016 and now since everyone is talking about it, and there was no public apology before it doesn’t seem as genuine.
Also, to say she gave you ‘full consent’ when you know full well looking back on it she didn’t and felt pressured is not it. At the time you may have thought it was full consent, but you should know better now.
This video just missed it for me…
We all human in the inside. But Jaden fans shouldn’t be all fucking disgusting man. I hope Jaden get a look at her fans. She has the absolutely worse fans in my opinion.
If you don't wanna accept the apology that's you but, he's apologised multiple times (from what I here), and he feels remorse for what he did, there's only so much a piece of text in a speech bubble can express.
@@-bendy-6316 Yes, multiple times because Jaiden didn’t respond as quickly as Alex wanted Jaiden to respond. It is her choice to forgive him. He doesn’t deserve forgiveness just because he said sorry
@@shilohhighland6716 I didn't mean literally accept the apology (omg) I meant if you feel his apology is fake thats on you and I never said he deserves forgiveness for one apology if I did show me.
You didn’t edit the video bruv what are you talking about
"The right thing to do"
After seven years mate, seven years.
While you're being straight that you're sorry, don't try to paint the picture that you're the victim of this situation.
I know you're really sorry about it, and it's ok, we are all humans... But it just comes off like: "I'm truly sorry... but (by my pressure, because if I force her to deal with her image, it can help her, plus I can put her name on my title and hashtag face reveal, so win-win I thought) she consented and now I continue to suffer the consequences that I thought ignoring would make it go away"
Saying that I don't think you're a bad person, and I know you bring a lot more joy to the world than the other way around it.
Exactly, im sorry I apologize I misunderstood was enough. “Wa wa wee wah she did this to me out of the blue” diluted the apology imo
The best comment I’ve seen so far.
Finally, another person who is actually mature.
He made the entire video about himself. I barely heard the apology, just wallowing in self pity. Disgusting.
The video didn't need to be made because an apology was already given, in private.
Imagine making a mistake and taking 7 years to address it
@@MasonIncorporated imagine your only argument being "L you liked your own comment" its a stupid insult.
Especially since it doesn't hold weight because I also liked it.
He addressed it privately, don’t be an asshole
This works with kids too
You didn’t edit the video so calm down
This also only resurfaced lately.
bro is a teeny tiny late to the party😭🙏
I know this is in the past, but i just want to say, misunderstanding or not. Being told yes or not. I think the important thing here is how he got to that yes. Jaidens personal struggles especially in self esteem and self advocating may me more known today then they were back then. But the fact she both edited the video for you so her face was censored, and then told you about her ED when you asked why she didnt wany her face shown was TWO layers of her asking you to not do this. But you then asked a third time and gave an explanation that would pressure her into agreeing because you basically told her "maybe this will be good for you". Saying no twice can be hard for some people, do basically the more you ask the harder it is to say no.
Imo while i doubt you were malicious, i will say, if someone asks you not to show their face publically... To the entire internet, even if their face is known, just go with it. While i don't think someones reasoning is your business, if you then ask for a reason and they give you one, truly stop asking after that because anything morenjust feels like pressure. And not everyone has the spine to hold their stance. Even with the assumption Alex isnt a mind reader and that even though she said yes he couldnt know she wasnt actually ok with it. She litterally just told him he had an ED. Which screams to me in a million ways to probably not push further. One such thing being if she can barely look in a mirror without feeling bad about herself (an assumption id initially make whether true or not if being told someone has an ED), think about the damage of now knowing thousands of people are going to now look at her and judge how she looks. But I'll leave that for now and give you the benefit of the doubt you just truly didnt think about that at all.
While this is such a specific instance i doubt will come up again i hope you truly take it to heart. Because this isnt only for face reveals. Any time you share anything about anyone on your public facing channel, consider if you have enthusiastic consent from another party. And not consent you had you smooth talk your way into getting.
This isnt me trying to go after you and i hope you've self reflected enough oj yournown to have come to a similar conclusion. But im seeing so many comments of people basically blaming jaiden for this and wante dtonoaint this picture of the mentioned back and forth thar lead to the video and its importance.
Saying you had her full consent when she had already gone through all that effort doesn’t sit right with me. She clearly wasn’t comfortable with her face being shown in the first place, which is why she went though all that effort to begin with. She wasn’t in the right mental place to set that boundary. Can’t believe it took 7 years for this, Alex.
"I'm sorry you think I hurt you."
Honestly I feel like seeing how she asked to edit her face in the vlog that should’ve clued you in that something was wrong
I love how you try too excuse it and say you had her consent when you lowkey pressured her . If i was atruggling and someone said”itll help its up too you”id feel pressured
I feel like saying it's up to you takes the pressure off?
@@itspersonal739It definitely doesnt
@@itspersonal739 it can help occasionally, but with people that prefer to please others (people pleasers), they'd rather hurt themselves than have a chance at them getting mad at them. It's as if a friend, friend A, who doesn't like going to parties was asked to go to a party with their friends. The friends say it's up to friend A to decide whether they want to go or not. Friend A feels the need to go since they don't want to upset their friends and have the possibility of their friends getting mad at them. People pleasers, (and most people in general), tend to over think situations. So "simple" things such as a "It's up to you" can feel much worse. (At least that's what I think this person is trying to say
My issue with this apology is that it took almost seven years and only happened because there was an increase in comments about the situation. I'm sure you didn't mean to but Jaiden admitted that being asked to show her face anyways made her feel in the wrong. That's the issue Alex, you ignored her request despite how she opened up to you. Yeah she eventually said "okay" but after YOU said you didn't like how SHE edited the video for YOU. She likely felt pressured after you kept asking her to let you show her face despite she already asked you not to do so multiple times. And you certainly never should have made her "face reveal" part of the hashtags or title. She asked you not to show her face, you never should have backpedaled on that. You don't get to decide if showing her face would help her.
Yes, the horrible comments are unnecessary and unfair. Yes this happened seven years ago. But you never addressed it and it hurt someone struggling with their image already. You pressured someone (even if not intentional) to give their okay. That's what's messed up. You're still in the wrong here. There never should have been a miscommunication with Jaiden because she shouldn't have needed to ask you not to do it more than once.
He already issu a apology year ago this for the viewer for understanding the situation and I think we don’t really need to comment and just watch because the true villains are the people that hating on him but that my opinion have a nice day
@@Mateo_A0 take an english class
@@jarnold that one error and calm down Thai isn’t Twitter
I have not watched the full video yet though I agree with this completely.
He apologized to jaiden privately the first time and issued a public apology the second time and after its blowing up this time he responded big with the editing she agreed after he said that it could help her over come her fear of her face going out it was coming from a place of of trying to help facereveal part of the tags came from jokes made in the video as he explained
I kinda get where you're coming from making this video, but respectfully I think you should really think about rephrasing some of your takes if you actually feel bad about what happened or want to acknowledge your mistakes. Some of these responses read as pretty narcissist and ignorant which is not a good look for an apology video :( Here's some examples:
"My immediate instinct was to support and help her. Knowing she was uncomfortable with the fact reveal I encouraged her to leave it unblurred" - From an outside perspective, this feels like a total cop out. If someone actually cares about someone's mental health and wants to encourage them to challenge themselves, doing that outside of a professional environment and in a non-pressured setting is the ONLY appropriate way to have that happen. It's super weird to ask someone to push themselves in a way that makes them uncomfortable for your own gain, and then claim it's for their mental health once the other person decides to
"The decision was completely left up to her" - ..after she already asked you to blur it and you said it would be better for her to let you do it anyway
"I hope this helps anyone that was confused" - I read that before I watched the video thinking that this was going the both clear up communication and acknowledge the fault you had in the situation, but it just feels like I'm being led to believe that me as a viewer didn't understand something that happened in the situation, when it seems like Jaiden's claims weren't really that "exaggerated" even if you believed you hadn't done anything wrong at the time.
I really encourage you to look back at this video and think about how it reads from someone who's concerned about Jaiden. It's totally fine to make mistakes, but it doesn't feel like you're owning up to your mistakes even after years of the event passing, which isn't even to say that you haven't owned up to your mistakes, but just that this video does not do a good job of communicating that.
I love how monotone you sound here. It’s like you don’t even care.
Yeah, it sounds uncharacteristic of him. This monotone is not the first time, but I’ll have to find the video. Without having it on hand, my theory is that his emotions have a monotone or forced sounding voice.
News flash, he doesn't
@@davidgodfrey9780 I wouldn't either, he apologized before in private.
That's his voice some people are just like that
@@haha-boi oh no so scary 🏳️🌈👻
Crazy that this whole topic had to resurface TWICE to get you to respond. Absolutely insane
Okay, well something that Alex omitted from this apology is, Jaiden never accepted his private apology from back then. She said so in her Subathon three separate times. She also said that the only time Alex contacted her was to get her to convince her fans that they were friends to try and stop the hate on his half.
Also I think it's unnecessary to add all the hate comments you got or are still getting. It takes away from the sincerity of your apology by trying to make your fans feel bad for you. It's just not the video to address them.
Something that puts me off throughout this entire video is the passive aggression.
The way you describe your mistakes as "bad luck."
Some examples of passive aggression are:
4:08: "What luck"
3:14: "What?"
(In a angry tone, this might be minor and I can see how some people can excuse this by saying that Alex didn't know the full extent of her struggles and therefore has a reason to be mad, but in my opinion the consent he got was coerced consent, which isn't valid consent, he might not have meant to pressure her into saying yes but as a non-confrontational person such as Jaiden, I imagine she said yes not to upset Alex, although that's just a educated guess from what I know about Jaiden through her videos.)
6:15: "That was a mistake!"
He says this so passively aggressively here... it's almost like he's blaming Jaiden for his mistake.
8:52: "With my luck, I've probably made 6 more mistakes."
He says this laughing but this is probably the most disrespectful line in this whole apology in my opinion. Mistakes are not something you do because you have bad luck, and in my opinion him saying this during an apology no less is him trying to remove blame and blame his "luck" instead of himself. I'm not a lunatic that says I think he deserves to die.. that's crazy and insane. But what I am doing is pointing out things that didn't sit well with me.
Edit: (Spelling mistakes)
People make mistakes we all do and I think we all hope that people will forgive our mistake just because the person makes a mistake doesn’t mean that they are a bad person and this mistake was 7 years ago and I like to believe that people grow over time and become better people so I don’t think he is a terrible person. I hope that you take this into consideration.
heavily agree
@@michaeldudley7739 you obviously missed the entire point of this comment. they aren't saying he's bad, they're saying that for an apology it doesn't properly display any growth and it has weird underlying tones to it
@@michaeldudley7739
I don't think he's a terrible person and I do acknowledge that it's been 7 years but I think that in itself says something, it took 7 years for him to finally say something, that tells me he isn't really sorry at all. He tried to sweep it under the rug and when Jaiden talked about it again and people started the hate train on him, Alex knew he had to say something.
I don't think he's terrible, just incredibly clueless about mental health. It's fine if you want to see him in a good light and still watch him or whatever you choose to do, I respect your opinion, and thank you for respecting mine.
ironically you pointed out six mistakes you think he made 🤣
It seems like you just pressured her into doing it unknowingly. It still puts you in the wrong tho¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Consent was provided, absolving Alex of fault. Some argue that Jaiden's hesitancy to decline negates full consent. In this view, accountability lies with Jaiden. Treating every conversation with an assumption of unclear intent hinders informativeness. It's crucial to use words responsibly, ensuring genuine intent when spoken.
Yes im sure the # facereveal was an inside joke and definitely not blatantly for the algorithm.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
I'm sorry to hear that you feel the hashtags were done blatantly for the algorithm. However, I respectfully disagree with your perspective of the situation.
As stated in the video, the purpose of the hashtags was in reference to the light-hearted scenes you saw in the video, I had no intention of using it for clout or personal gain.
I want to add that the term "face reveal" was not fully developed as a term associated with sensitivity at the time the video was made. For example, It was added to the Urban Dictionary in December 2016, which was six months after the video was released.
Either way, once i discovered they regretted the video i took actions to remedy the situation by removing the video and immediately apologizing to them in private back in 2017.
If there's anything else you'd like me to do please let me know as l'm happy to learn and grow.
I hope we can move forward with mutual respect and understanding.
@@itsalexclark she literally said she wasn’t comfortable with her face being in the video… and you still added a face reveal tag after… just admit that you did something messed up. you should have known better, and if you genuinely didn’t know better, that was still incredibly ignorant of you.
@@dingdong6233 He did that but it was an accident (making Jaiden feel bad) he apologised move on and stop trying to make him feel bad for something he did 7 years ago it was pretty bad but it was an accident and he was trying to help as soon as he saw it hurt someone he immediately tried to fix it, and he added face reveal as a joke if you watched the video fully you would've been more aware, Jaiden gave him full permission to do it and it was possible she could've regretted this though this was still her decision (not to come out at Jaiden or blame her I totally understand what she felt)
TLDR; he already apologised, he knows, it's over.
He was basically teasing the fact of face reveals and etc, but it still hurt somebody and we all know that.
@@itsalexclark how is bro pulling urban dictionary into an argument?💀
It wasnt consent, it was peer pressure.
Imagine making videos without showing your face, then having a blast with a friend on vidcon. Telling him you're uncomfortable, you take hours of time to edit your face out for him, since you think it will be a nuisance of work for your friend to do and he still uploads the unedited one.
I'm sorry but she tried to show you how uncomfortable she was with this situation without causing drama. She told you, she tried to solve the problem (because she thinks she is the problem to feel this way) and then you do this.
All in all, I truly believe 7 years are a lot of time and you might have made peace with this situation and potentially grow from it. But it wasn't "bad luck". It wasn't one or several "mistake". She door slammed you because in a way you "outted" her when wasn't ready and she trusted you to understand. Deep in your heart you know you saw her protesting back then, you still decided to cause this situation.
I’m trying to find a parallel between this situation but I can’t think of one lol. Anyway as he said in this video he didn’t know that she has it that rough so that where a super small thing for him. Like how you tie your shoes. So he didn’t think much of it. He where not thinking about how bad she might have it when she sends like 3 messages over a really small bit in the video. Like a shout out. It where almost like she asked him to remove her shout out because and he where thinking that it wasn’t a big deal so he would hav done it if she didn’t say she had a fear of new people coming to her channel so he said that that was a problem and tried helping her by putting the shout out there anyways(which she agreed on) and thus he thought he helped her.
@@bullen1126 "Thought he helped her". Bro, it's obvious he did it for clout. You know the whole situation with Social Respose (AKA: Social Repulsive)? He made an apology video JUST like this one; he harmed two women & didn't care AT ALL. These kinds of people are manipulative & narcissistic!
i just really hope he didnt only post this because he knew he would get some views out of it.
He most likely did just post it so he could get more views sadly
Still couldnt saved his dying channel tho
He posted this to save his own skin in my opinion, when Jaiden brought it up again he knew he had to say something.
@@randomwaffle11 yeah the entire thing
@@doomus_ I was talking about the replies to your comment
Not your comment itself
The people in these comments are extremely forgiving and so obviously biased. I don't think you had any malicious intent but even now I think there is some obvious passive aggressiveness, maybe from both sides. As well as some definite "oblivious" moments. I find it hard for someone like you, as well as the people around you, to forget the topic of Jaidens ED, let alone MULTIPLE people forgetting. It was a massive topic and YOU were involved, you think you would be reminded of it even after time passes but you weren't. Not only that but coming from someone who has a hard time saying no to people, it was clear you should have just listened to her in the first place, if the first thing someone said to me was that they don't feel comfortable showing their face and struggle with their image, you wouldn't even THINK to second guess them. You did a lot wrong, and even now your intentions still seem wrong. For the most part of your video you seem to be shifting the blame or excusing your behavior, even in some way straw-manning it by weakening your obvious wrong doing with "false allegations." If I wanted to truly apologize to someone, especially seeing how much damage I caused them, I would not include "false allegations" made against me, because that just makes it seem like you're saving your name. Which it kinda seems like you're doing. But then again that's just my opinion.
This was very well put
who the hell is supporting Alex? The unpopular comments when you sort by "New"?
@@electroninja7419 when i posted this comment, many of his fans were just brushing it under the rug and agreeing with him because it was a long time ago or because "he had permission."
@@electroninja7419 look at replies to the popular comments
Is there more context to the part where you were given permission to upload the video? You both are saying extremely different things and stuff isn't adding up
So, I just got here because of a short with Jaiden and Anthony, and it’s just so crazy that through out watching this “apology video” this guy tries to paint it in a way where it came from a good place. The title of the video saying FT. JAIDENANIMATION #FACEREVEAL, so I’m sure you were really thinking with “good intentions”. In the end if he feels bad about it, he knows he was in the wrong, but instead he chose the clicks and views over a person’s feeling and a friendship that apparently meant nothing to this individual.
I hope everyone in the end, just be kind to others and know that you are all loved. Thank you for letting me share.
thanks for sharing your thoughts. I had no other intentions than what I shared in the video and thats 100% the truth. feel terrible about it and always have.
Making an apology 7 years later is crazzyyyy
Very telling that the messages between you and Jaiden aren't actual screenshots, but a stylised and paraphrased version of them written by you. I would be interested to see the actual way this "concern" was worded if you're adamant that you were just looking out for her and weren't trying to coerce her into it at all. Even if a statement like "The decision is up to you" was a direct quote, if you put that in the context of something like "the decision is up to you *but* I would really rather do this" it gives it an entirely different tone and meaning. Clearly Jaiden felt pressured by you to do this, and this controlled narrative you're presenting isn't consistent with that at all.
Apologies for not having the actual messages. I wish i did. Unfortunately this happened so long ago that whatever messaging app we used did not auto save your conversation. I tried to track them down but as far as i can tell they do not exist.
No, people shouldn't be leaving some of the gross hate comments they left you but you are still in the wrong here. She told you she was uncomfortable, she edited the video herself then YOU decided that you knew better about how she was feeling and basically pressured her into giving her "consent". People saying "well she should have been clearer about why", no, she said she wasn't comfortable and that should have been enough. I deal with the same problems she had at the time, very few people IRL know about it because frankly its none of their business. People who deal with this illness prefer not to shed light on it and generally feel like they're burdens or overreacting, it is likely that she felt she couldn't keep saying no because you wouldn't listen to her, that doesn't meant she wanted to say yes. I would have been mortified if I was in this situation and it would have made my mental health so much worse. While it is good to get the other side of the story this feels icky to me, you come across as if you're making all these excuses but not really acknowledging how damaging something like this can be to someone in an already fragile state of mental health. People who haven't suffered through the same thing can't understand, not really, but they should listen when people tell them they don't want to do something because you never know what is going on behind closed doors.
and the fact that he lowkee was just like “it’ll help you get over your fear.” just bc you technically left the choice to her doesn’t mean shit if you are pressuring her after saying the editing looks dumb or silly and you don’t like it. but my problem with this is that it is a 6 yr late apology. like what’s the point
I do agree with you somewhat, but this seems like a blatant hate train here. Alex is a human. Humans make mistakes, just like everyone else. From all accounts of the incident it seems like he had good intentions and wanted to help her by posting this video, but obviously didn’t read deeper into what she was saying. Does that make him a terrible person? I don’t think so. He made a mistake pretty clearly, and realized, took down the video. He didn’t make an apology video because he clearly privately apologized, and the entire internet doesn’t need to be involved in these disputes. In the grand scheme of things, this is a pretty minor incident. He had good intentions, but made some bad decisions. The internet is blowing this out of proportion, when in reality this should just be a discussion between him and jaiden. If they don’t want to be friends, that’s their business, and this shouldn’t reflect on Alex’s career. It’s honestly really sad that he has to make this video, and I 100% agree that these hate comments are gross.
@@oweirevan2061 yes, it does make him a terrible person. Whether or not he thought it would “help her” is irrelevant. Her face reveal is not HIS to put out.
@@xavierplymptonstongue54 are you missing the point where he said she gave him the ok to post the video with her face in it? Because that was the big miscommunication. He thought he had the go ahead from Jaden, but in reality she just felt pressured into doing it, and wasn't really ok with it, but gave her ok anyway. Sure, not a great decision by Alex, but also not great communication by Jaden. In the end, Alex made a mistake, and he has definitely realized that, but that does NOT make this guy a terrible person. People have done much worse on the internet, with worse intent. Alex doesn't deserve the shit he's been constantly getting, and I will stand by that.
@@oweirevan2061 she said no twice. She went as far as to edit the video for him. If the cartoon face was really the issue he could have edited it himself.
You only need to say no once. She said it twice and he still insisted. Sure, it was from ignorance, but it was still a VERY wrong position to take.
why is this video monetized
I just don’t understand how someone can put a face reveal hashtag in the title of _any_ video and _not_ expect it to get views.
Of course it’s gonna get views when most people have never seen that person’s face! Whether the video is fake or not, it’ll get views, that’s just how it goes. Am I wrong?
I want to reiterate i screwed up and feel awful about what happened. To answer your question about face reveals: i feel like this makes me sound really old to say but the term “face reveal” was not a thing quite yet back then. Not to most people at least (me included) - there was no precedent for it being a view magnet or it being a term that was important to someone. It was a new term that was getting tossed around jokingly. For example, it wasn’t added to urban dictionary until a few months after my video came out. I.e. face reveal was not a word that was in the lexicon yet. That’s all changed now though, i would attribute Jaiden’s face reveal video as one of the major movers in making it such a sacred term.
Hope that answers your question and you’re having a great start to your new year.
@@itsalexclark I see. That’s a bit better, then. I understand this all happened years and years ago, but I really hate that this happened in the first place, so I can’t bring myself to not dislike you, but either way I hope you’ve learned from that mistake.
I hope you’ve been more careful with the people around you (particularly if they seem uncomfortable in any way) and that you don’t try to help someone without at least doing some basic research.
I’m just a random guy on the internet, so I can only work off of what you and Jaiden have said about the situation, and I’ve chosen to take Jaiden’s side based on that information.
I genuinely hope the best for you and hope you have a nice year. If anything I’m sorry that I brought this whole thing up again, this all just got to my emotions and I felt like I had to give my opinion.
Have a nice day. /gen
Guys she didn’t wanna make people feel bad for her problems that probably why she said it’s okay but I’m glad this has calmed down now just seemed some people have forgotten that
As someone who is like Jaiden , a people pleaser with very much no confidence at all, yeah ...i woud've done the same thing
Would i let myself being recorded even if it made me unconfortable ? Yes because thats what my "friends" want and it would make them happy. Would i complain about it ? Of course not because that would mean to confront them and possibly make them upset.
Jaiden's request was a simple one ...hey don't put my face there i can even do the work myself to blurr/hide it. Thing that you didnt cared and convinced her it would be a good ideea , thing to which she agreed to not because she wanted but because she wanted to avoid the unconfortable conversation.
Putting the # of her face reveal in the video description was shitty , it was not up to you to do so, it wasnt your right. And the other video , come on..u already knew what the video meant but still posted it hoping for a outcome but when it came back and bit you in the ass , with people saying its pretty fked up u deleted it not because you magically understood what it meant , but because it wasnt the reactions you were hoping for. And for both instances you used the same excuse i DiDn'T uNdErStOoD oN tHe MoMeNt WhAt It MeAnT aNd HoW sErIoUs It WaS🥴 ...
U knew very well what it meant ...u knew very well she didnt wanted (yet) her face on the internet but u still did it , you used her.
And all that sighing and b.s at the end as if you're actually sad , it was cringy and patethich AF , i'm surprised people actually buy it.
If you were a better friend maybe all this coud've been avoided.
Im not one to pray or hope for bad things to happen to people so i won't do that but i do hope you learned from it and i do hope Jaiden will look twice in the future when chosing friends.
I completely agree. Such a well articulated comment.
It's literally his right.
@@palle4859 how is it his right ? Please do tell how exposing someone , forcing/persuading someone into doing something that would only benefit him is his right.
How and when or even if she was gonna do a face reveal was HER right , it affected HER , it was a decission she shoud've been able to take on her own time and terms not a decission she was forced to accept because of the situation he put her in ....
So maybe before saying stuff like " iT's LiTtErAlLy HiS rIgHt" ...try to actually understand the situation and what it means. Have a good day
Your not like jaiden she’s so much better than you stop lying
@@justinjohnson3615 i'm not comparying myself to her , that's just a expression you dolt , i didnt meant it's me specifically , alot of people are in the same situation , it's not specific to one person , maybe put that singular brain cell to work before saying dumb stuff like this and embarrass yourself.
you use her for clout dude, she asked u to do something and you did the opposite, not cool at all
"That wasn't the intention" If I shot an arrow into the woods without the intention of hitting someone and the arrow hit someone. My intention doesn't change the fact someone got shot by an arrow. I don't think apologizing 7 years later to that person would help either but...that's just me
I hear you. Just to clarify, as stated in the video i did apologize to Jaiden right after it happened in private.
@@itsalexclark The point I was bringing up is that the video doesn't come across as "explanation" of your side it comes across as a grab for attention by making the apology video you didn't make at the time. But I wasn't there so my opinion doesn't really matter in the issue. Personally it feels like a grab for relevancy and damage control, something that could or rather should have been done at the time.
My guy really blurred her face now 😂, she literally edited a version y could have used, y didn’t u use that one ?
Never clicked on a video so fast I’m finally gonna be able to see both perspectives
“I have blurred the video” proceeds to show a video with about as blur as a lightly smudged camera with clear detail of faces
It's wild that towards the end of the video you try paint yourself as a victim. Should have just been an apology video
you used the hashtag "jaidenfacereveal"
- you gaslighted her
- she was clearly not ok with that
- read the other 1k+ comments telling you what happened
i think its important to note that Jaiden probably felt coerced into approving of you posting the video.
you mentioned how you thought that posting the face reveal would have helped with her self confidence and that she was the one who never truly conveyed her “real” feelings to you but I still think that you shouldve been more conscious of the way you approach the topic of insecurity.
when people try and convince you that they have good intentions even at the cost of your circumstances, you’re often swayed to agree with them whether you want to or not. having experienced insecurity and living life as a doormat for many years, I think the conversation between you and jaiden regarding the video and it being posted was not a genuine representation of “full approval”
Question for the jury you said you would never reveal someone’s identity if they didn’t want it to be revealed but you still did it then
What
Jaiden said he could upload the video. At first she said no, but he asked again and said “it might help,” “it’s up to you though”
And jaiden said yes. At the time it was incredibly hard for jaiden to say no but Alex didn’t know that until later. And the minute he did, he deleted the video.
@@lemonmelon2612 but and this my opinion he should’ve listened the first time she said no regardless he kinda pushed her to say yes
brutha, it took you 7 YEARS to say sorry??
LMAFOOO dude this aint even an apology
“The internet is supposed to be a community, and I don’t feel apart of it.”
Do you think Jaiden felt like a valued part of the RUclips community when you disrespected her and blasted her face on your channel? Do you think she felt like a part of the community when she believed she was disappointing all of her fans at vidcon? Do you think she felt like a part of the community when she made her face video, telling the entire world about her mental health struggles, and how you exploited them?
I don’t believe you were being deliberately mean when convincing Jaiden to let you post the unedited video. I don’t believe you were trying to exploit her for money or clout. But I DO believe you were completely ignorant about her mental health, and mental health in general by association.
She told you about her terrible state of mind, and you used that to manipulate her into “consenting” to the unedited video. Whether you did it intentionally or not, that’s what happened.
Throughout this whole apology you kept on saying “I’m sorry if YOU were hurt by my actions”, whether it was to Jaiden or the viewers. That’s not how an apology works. You should FEEL sorry, whether or not the other party has already moved on or feels bad. You actions were wrong, and you should feel remorse for it.
This isn’t about you, Clark. Nobody cares that hate comments give you a sinking feeling, and that they hurt your feelings. That sucks for sure, but I guarantee what Jaiden went through at vidcon and during the aftermath of your video was 1000x worse.
If you just did the right thing, and listened to Jaiden, things would have turned out way better for the both of you.
You made RUclips a slightly worse place. You can’t remedy that until you acknowledge how that happened.
You’re not evil, you’re grossly ignorant.
But she did send u a video of her face edited out…. Like why not just post it…….?
He tried to help her by exposing her to her fear. But he wouldn’t do it if he knew that she where that traumatized by it
@@bullen1126 Exposure Therapy is extreamly damaging if done wrong, and clearly Alex did it very, very very wrong. He asked as many times as it took to get a yes, and that is wrong. To Jaiden, that is a situation where she would feel forced. Alex should have taken the first no and just posted the video.
This is a legit mistake, and he should be allowed to move on from it. Doesn't mean Jadien has to forgive him, or stop telling the story from how she sees it. It just means he reflects and understands how he needs to approach it next time. Simple as that.
Went from an apology to victimising himself over comments. If you had done as jaiden had asked if you and just blurred her face in the first place then nothing would have happened and the food one you should have asked her permission first before including her in a video and in such a terrible way. Do better Alex I used to enjoy your content.
Did you even watch the video?
@@therichman3685 yea and this is my opinion on it
@@pin1721 So your opinion is based on you completely ignoring the important part of the video while only paying attention to the part where he somehow victimised himself?
@@therichman3685 it's not just that it's how if he had done as jaiden had wanted in the first place none of this would have happened he's crying over the consequences of his own actions and making himself a victim
@@pin1721 Just watch the video. Jaiden had agreed to let him post it after he just suggested to show her face to support her.
I love your videos but this is kinda disappointing
im crying the “praying for your downfall” had me weak😭😭
First of all it was not consent. It was full on peer pressure. Wtf do you think she was gonna say after you literally decided to post the video with her face in it, AFTER AGREEING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE HER BLUR HER FACE?!? A friend would respect your boundaries and understand the reasons for those boundaries. What a friend doesn't do is disregard those feelings and pressure them into something they are uncomfortable with doing. I know im 6 months late to this but waiting 7 YEARS to address this? I'm really disappointed in you, and I hope you learn how to be a better friend because this is not okay.
Bruh it's been like 7 years-
LOL HELLO SYDNEY
@@Makakaka OMG HEY MAKA
Sorry but the video is too up and down things I realise you need to learn from is:
-Stop "fixing" those around you and start listening and respecting their boundaries, this one will save you from future decisions you may make
-Double check video content with those that will be in those videos even if the community chose it your responsible for that video your the one that monitors what gets published
-The videos you showed actually shows Jaiden is uncomfortable and the first one also looks like she got confused that you were filming and she might of thought it was the photo hence the posing then the reaction to cover her face after. If you don't see it that way then I get the lack of social awareness but you have to see why people are supporting Jaiden
-Clear matters like this faster that's a no brainer 2016 is a long time to wait and avoid it
-I don't want to cement the thought but it seems you do have bad judgement it doesn't make you a bad person you just need to talk openingly about you ideas more and get advice from others maybe even a therapist.
-Im sorry you feel alone you don't deserve the extreme commenters they are also inconiderate in these situations but in regards to the next point,
- Dont laugh in an apology video. You change too quickly between a serious topic then brush it off with a nervous laugh. Not appropriate and getting upset and quiet at the end and changing the direction of the video from apologising to Jaiden and followers to the extreme attacks you been getting can be seen as victimising yourself in the situation probs should of been better in a seperate video. This may not be your intention but can be easily confused with your wording
-Analysis your behaviour make sure you look back and think of the other people you may of upset and you thought you were just joking with
I hope to see you be a better person then your past small steps and deep breaths there are people out there hoping for a positive change but it may need a lot of work to get there but as long as you're progressing you are doing better than the majority of the death threat commenters if anything. Proud of you for trying to make things right it's always a good step
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The full consent bit just feels wrong she SAID she didnt want her face IN YOUR VIDEO she said she was uncomfortable and YOU TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IT the fact it took you 7 YEARS just to make this is insane and absurd
You need to learn how to forgive and forget and move on bro😂😂
"I am uncomfortable with my face being in this video and would like it to be edited out."
After that expression, regardless of her reasons, you SHOULDN'T have posted the video.
Everything after that, I mean... what justification can you actually give?
Even if she didn't have her reasons, she WASN'T COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
If you can still, after SEVEN years, still not understand that... I mean jesus.
Say whatever you want, you miss the forest for the trees.
Is he supposed to go back in time?
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
This saying is so old you can trace variations of it back to different ancient cultures around the world, and it's still true to this day.
Learn from this man's mistake in how you handle your own interpersonal relationships.
I've been in situations where friends thought they new better than me in regards to my issues. The pressure of hell they put on you will always make you fold. You fold or completely distance yourself from them. The ones that do it with care and "give up" without giving you hell are rare and far in between. You were of the first kind not the second. Considering you still had an opinion knowing she went through the effort of editing it out. So don't let the "she agreed" comfort you much. She agreed because it was either that or losing you as a friend and distancing from you.
why it take 7 years bro 😭‼️
You forgot the ukelele
Ngl I don’t like how you use “full consent”. No. It really wasn’t. You pushed her to the point she felt like she had to say yes to not upset you. Her saying that she didn’t want her face in it should have been enough. She shouldn’t have to explain herself to you.
Why did you pressure her to post her face?
I want to point out during the pizza crying bit he chuckles then later when he’s talking about the hate he gets he seems so sad and put down that doesn’t sit right
True
“I would never publicly revel their identity if they wanted it private.” ??????????????
this entire video feels like you victimizing youself. the doodles on screen really drive that point home. this seems to be a terrible apology.
also, i dont think you understand how hashtags work. you tag something in order to get it more attention in that subject. if you tag something 'cute animals', then people who look up and want to see 'cute animals' will see that video. if you tag something 'face reveal', then people who look up and want to see 'face reveals' will find the video. hashtags are always for attention, whether you intended for them to be or not.
He has like 3 comments here supporting him and he liked them with ❤...but the rest, literally the rest is againts him and he Say nothing ... Obviously he does not regret anything
You should focus more on the fact that your sorry than the fact you are hurt. Stop playing victim
7 years 7 YEARS it took you that long to apologize this is the reason for your downfall
why did he blur her face now? That should've been done in the original video
Given Jaiden went through the trouble of editing the entire vlog (or at least offered to edit the whole vlog) to hide her face, it should have been crystal clear. I can only imagine Jaiden felt pressured by your words of support to go along with it and let you post it. So I still think you're in the wrong. It also seems pretty difficult to believe this apology that is 7 years late is sincere.
Something i didn’t include in the video because i was not 100% certain of it was i don’t remember Jaiden editing the entire video. What i remember is she edited one shot as an example and sent it to me to show what it would look like. This doesn’t change anything , but yea knowing how Jaiden felt after i realize she felt pressured which sucks because i never want to be that person. Apologies again.
@@itsalexclark You don't need to apologize to anyone except Jaiden. I can't speak for others, but as for myself, if she accepts your apology, that's good enough for me. Edit: I'd like to add that I have a horrible memory and sometimes I fear challenging people on what happened because of it. I sympathize if that's the case for you.
I see you didn’t turn off the ads for this “apology”.
Using her name and internet drama to attempt to garner sympathy…. And scrape the bottom of the barrel to search for whatever couch change you can find.
How dare you.
This shit ain’t an apology chucklenuts 💀. No money copium.
@@theokdrummer1929 I’m adding “chucklenuts” into my vocabulary.
Hilarious.
RUclips doesn’t let you turn off ads anymore, you can still make a video that isn’t monetized but it will still have ads so RUclips can make money
It seems to me that they never really were that close. They were more acquaintances than anything. If they were close, he would've known these things, but he seems to be coming form a good place and not a place of malice. He barely knew anything about her, and acted as such.
I mean in the vid they talked a lot and they were joking around, maybe she just didn’t want to tell everyone about her problems
4M subs, yet only 17k views after almost 2 weeks of being uploaded. What happened
This dude ain’t sorry at all, he doesn’t give a shit
Like seriously the victim blaming in this video is insane what is wrong with you?
this feels like a 'woe is mee! look at how mean people are, pity me!' moment. Instead of a serious taking responsibility moment. If you were taking responsibility you wouldn't have made so many excuses, you wouldn't have tagged jaidenfacereveal, no one believes it was a bs joke, you did it for clout. The comments you showed of people calling you out on your bs at the end was the cherry on top of the bs cake, Its you trying to get pity, why else would you show them?
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“The internet is supposed to be a community and I don’t feel a part of it” What?!?!? Since when
If she said no straight off the bat then you should have stuck with that. Not push someone for a different answer because you think it looks silly 😬
I want to reiterate I wasn't pushing for a different answer because I thought the cartoon face looked silly. Once I found out the reason she wanted it blurred I was encouraging her to post as a way to conquer what she was struggling with... there was no other motivation, and the choice was left entirely up to her. That said, now knowing that it caused more harm than good I should of just gone the original way. I have been more mindful of this ever since. Sorry again.
@Alex Clark It's absolutely fine. It was a misunderstanding from the community. We are all also sorry for being toxic. We forgive you and I hope you forgive us too
I feel like jaiden should’nt have to explain to you why she doesn’t want her face on the internet? She shouldn’t have to tell you how uncomfortable it makes her, maybe just respect that she doesn’t want her face in the internet and move on with it no matter how “silly” the blurring is or whatever.
I’m not mad at you Alex.
I’m just disappointed.
You need to learn how to forgive and forget and move on bro
Bruh, Jaiden didn't want her face reveal. Even if she look good, she want to remain anonymous.
It’s so telling how he’s monotone the entire video and sounds like he doesn’t care the whole video UNTIL the part where he talks about himself and the comments about him…
It’s kinda like publicly outing someone and then being like ‘I didn’t know how to publicly rectify it’ Just apologize… cause now the damage has been done i don’t think this does much for anyone except bring it back up again which I have to think is a views thing
What does it change nothing is to clear the situation
Lol you put ads on this apology video??? Unbelievable
I think the influx of comments recently is from Anthony's interview. It's very difficult to see someone elses side when you like someone else so much, and especially with hindsight. It's difficult knowing how much we know now to see a friend making an honest mistake, and I feel as though most people have already determined their opinions, and refuse to change. I felt personally that it was rude to post it even after you saw the edit, but clearly you felt bad that it hurt people, and tried everything you could to make it better, and in my eyes, that's the best you could do. I think that the hurt that came of this will wash away, however it will happen very slowly, especially to people on the internet. Digging up past events to drag people down is unfortunately just the normal internet culture now, but I hope that this video helps Jaiden and yourself to understand each others perspectives, since you two are the most important people in the story.
But wasn’t that video over a year ago? I know it can take a while for many corners of the internet to see things (Sad Milk being the most recent drama that comes to mind, but that is with very different people and different community), but I do wonder how a year old video caused this 3 month old video to be made and it still cause drama.
Though all of these RUclips drama has made all of the “Explaining a Narcissist” videos come to my video feed in droves… Not sure if Alex is one, but based on those videos I am sadly finding similarities.
You could have apologized ages ago but now that your fading into irrelevance this is when you decide to acknowledge what you did??? Interesting
Although in the video it says he did apologize in private just didn’t make a video
I understand what you were trying to do, Alex, I really do, but you absolutely should NEVER EVER EVER post anything someone explicitly asks you not to post, it’s absolutely not okay whatsoever. I’m sorry, I completely understand what you were trying to do, but by doing this, you unknowingly pushed someone into going along with something that they were not comfortable with. What you absolutely should always understand is that people who have social anxiety issues ALSO have problems making it clear when something makes them uncomfortable, they are so unsure of themselves already, and when a person pushes them to do something, they begin to believe that THEY are the one who is wrong, when that simply isn’t the case, I don’t wish any ill towards you whatsoever, but I really hope this whole thing teaches you to never push anything on someone who has already said no to something, you might not realize it, but by “talking them into it” you’re using a form of coercion against them and that just isn’t okay. My personal advice would be to always ask for the permission of someone before including them in something, especially if you are already aware that they have social issues, and if they say no, please just leave it at that and respect that decision. I believe everyone deserves to be happy, and a mistake is a mistake, so I hope that things turn out well for you, please try not to listen to the negative comments from people, if you’re certain about your reasons for doing what you did and no harm was intended, then their comments are simply wrong, right? So don’t let it hurt you so much. Just please, I’m begging you to be cautious about the feelings of others, especially if it is someone who is your friend. I wish you luck in the future.
The world doesn't owe you understadning.
The fact that you think Alex should've been a mind reader at the time is just you playing in hindsight.
@@alonzobeckham6465 I didn’t say he should be a mind reader, and they know each other, genius, they aren’t strangers. I know my friends with social anxiety issues have problems being completely up front, but she originally said NO. It 100% should have been left at that. It’s your problem if you’re so socially inept that you can’t comprehend something so basic
@@alonzobeckham6465 you strike me as the kind of person that thinks you didn’t do anything wrong by talking people into doing something they don’t want to do. That’s the definition of the word coercion, I explained that to Alex in a non confrontational, non hostile manner. I expect my friends to be aware of my boundaries and respect them, I don’t put the same expectations on strangers. Alex KNEW Jaiden was not okay with this, he KNEW she had social anxiety issues. What are you failing to comprehend here? It’s not a case of two random people that don’t know one another from a hole in the ground. I get he thought he was helping her, but talking A FRIEND with social issues into doing ANYTHING that they have explicitly stated they are not comfortable with IS NOT OKAY WHATSOEVER. Don’t act stupid, it’s not like he doesn’t know anything about her boundaries, so don’t excuse thoughtless behavior towards his friend. He made a mistake, and should learn from it, making it excusable defeats that purpose.
@@jeffreybowen2068 1. They were acquantices, not friends.. Big difference.
2. Alex's account says that Jaiden stated that she was self-conscious about her appearence, but not to the degree that it was crippeling anxiety.. Hell, no one even knew how bad it was until Jaiden told the world in one of her videos, which was well after these events. Expecting Alex to know about Jaiden's mental health issues and the degree in which they haunted Jaiden--when he knew at the same time as everyone else--is where you're unreasonably expecting him to be a mind reader.
3. I'm sure your assement--based off a two sentence reply--is accurate, buddy.
Stop with the finger wagging and cut the man some slack.
I agree with the rest of the commenters that this isn't the best apology, and doing 7 years later wasn't the best time. I can kind of see this being genuine, but either way maybe it was needed a bit sooner. I feel like this isn't my area either, I've only been watching animation RUclips for a year, so I'll leave it up to everyone else.
Now that I look back at the pizza incident. It was the fans that suggested the words for the twitter poll and the fans chose the words for Alex to draw. Alex and his team forgot about Jaiden’s disorder.
I very much hope you and Jaden are feeling better and don't look back at the moment you were trying your best to be a good friend
bro, it’s too late, you don’t get more views, or anything else, still gonna watch you, but honestly, just do better, please?
Took him 7 years to make this video that’s crazy when this should have been made sometime after her face reveal video.
Yeah, I guess Alex wanted to clear the air
@@fujery476or he started getting more comments on it so whipped up some bs to get himself out of hot air
@@MrBlock-qe7hi good point
that’s not fucking okay can’t believe it took 7 years
this video hit a note with me. there’s many times that i’ve thought i was ok with someone only to later find out that the person i thought was my friend did not see me as their friend and all the interactions we had as being familiar with each other actually made them feel antagonized; i don’t wanna be like “mental illness card” but its really hard to tell how someone feels and it feels so frustrating when the person feels hurt and never tell you and so you continue like everything is fine because to you it is and only to find out it isnt feels so hurtful and wrong and gross
- to clarify, i’m not try a paint anyone as anything as i’m pretty sure this is purely two humans who didn’t fully communicate with each other and both hurt each other in turn; they’re both wrong and not. we’re human, we’re messy and we tend to learn from our mistakes and always always, wishing harm on someone is wrong, those commenters saying those awful things is wrong, but it’s also, sadly, what happens on the internet anyway
my two cents went to a dollar but here it is, i needed to write this down becuase the thought wouldn’t leave me. these situations always make me so uncomfortable and always changes the relationship but sometimes that’s for the better “friends for a season, friends for a reason, etc”
this is the truth
Wrong
@@Jem.Studios ?
@@atomdecay I’ll defend him cause he’s the goat. You are a bum
Dude, Jaiden literally sat down for hours JUST to edit/blur her face out. That takes commitment! And you're saying "Oh, there was no clear communication"?
I still don't understand why you didn't upload the video Jaiden editted for you that made censoring EASIER for you. All you had to do was NOT reveal someone's face when they ask you NOT to.
lmao not you trying to sound sad near the end😂🤣🤣