Why Fords Suck

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • Every car manufacturer has produced designs with quirks and oddities that made them less than ideal to work with. FoMoCo however, engineered a feature into it's full line of cars that made them particularly hateful and ugly to even the simplest service, much less build into hot rods...can you guess what it is?
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  • @ziptiesnbiasplies
    @ziptiesnbiasplies 3 года назад +529

    Soooooooo you Wana fight bud?!?

  • @ultimafuego
    @ultimafuego 3 года назад +433

    "FEs barely fit in their chassis!"
    "Let's put a slant in a Fiero!"

    • @cjbert6790
      @cjbert6790 3 года назад +31

      Let’s put a 390 fe with a thermoquad in that fiero!

    • @joshsamuelson1793
      @joshsamuelson1793 3 года назад +38

      The new shirt should say "We can put a slant in that." Lol

    • @edge2sword186
      @edge2sword186 3 года назад +8

      I put a larger 429 SCJ in a 1969 Cobra and others just like that so your claim has no merit .390 came in 1967 on up Fairlane, Comet ,Mustang and Cougar .I replaced several with 427 's and 428 '
      The shock towers are stronger FE cars .

    • @steveweiman4708
      @steveweiman4708 3 года назад +5

      I got a good laugh out of that one to(!!) The Mopar mind is slightly bent for sure!!

    • @somedudeRyan
      @somedudeRyan 3 года назад +7

      @@joshsamuelson1793 yes, with a picture of UT holding his arms up like that

  • @saxmusicmail
    @saxmusicmail 3 года назад +169

    On Tony's tombstone, "Hey, I think we can get a slant in here!"

    • @youhaveamonkey
      @youhaveamonkey 3 года назад +14

      “I want to slant-swap the world!”
      We need a UTG t-shirt of that.

    • @jimbusmaximus4624
      @jimbusmaximus4624 2 года назад

      This comment had me on the floor

    • @al_dente4777
      @al_dente4777 Год назад

      @@youhaveamonkey Unfortunately, that'll have to wait until next year's Christmas

  • @39KHall
    @39KHall Год назад +39

    My thing with Ford has always been learning to bring the VIN with you to the parts store so you know what month your '86 EXP or whatever was built, so you can get the water pump they were using that month.

    • @keithlowe1982
      @keithlowe1982 11 месяцев назад

      Always used 3 or 4 different pieces for the same part even on the same years !?

    • @juggernautxtr
      @juggernautxtr 11 месяцев назад +2

      1983 escort split yr edition 3 different sets of brakes, 2 different ac compressors, a whole myriad of different parts, go to parts store with part in hand so you can match them up.

    • @nathanieljones7981
      @nathanieljones7981 7 месяцев назад

      @@juggernautxtrmustangs and everything is that way from 74-84. After that they cleaned their act

    • @juggernautxtr
      @juggernautxtr 7 месяцев назад

      @@nathanieljones7981 worked on numerous ford vehicles with in that time frame...your assumption is incorrect.

    • @nathanieljones7981
      @nathanieljones7981 7 месяцев назад

      @@juggernautxtr no. I’m not….

  • @Elmo_Fuddleputt
    @Elmo_Fuddleputt 3 года назад +18

    As a dyed-in-the-wool fan of The Mighty Blue Oval who has owned many 60's FoMoCo offerings and all I can say is, Tony ain't wrong.

  • @NomadsBoyTv
    @NomadsBoyTv 3 года назад +203

    Every company has their weaknesses and I've come to realize while being diehard Mopar and being raised to hate Chevys, that every brand had its quirks and faults. That realization has saved me years arguing.

    • @vicmccartin
      @vicmccartin 3 года назад +38

      Chevy is easier every day of the week. Cheaper , easier to swap , everything bolts to everything. Ford and dodge suck with their bell housing bolt patterns. Ford and mopar have big and small block transmission bolt patterns. Different across engine designs to. Small block or big block chevy. The same style transmission works from a straight 6 to a big block

    • @napluvr4173
      @napluvr4173 3 года назад +20

      I completely agree. To each there own. You like what you like and I'll like what I like and we can still be friends.

    • @jjtool5800
      @jjtool5800 3 года назад +7

      @@vicmccartin you can use a steering box out of any Chrysler to another Chrysler except a truck. I think I’ll stick with having to have 2 different bell housings

    • @DylanL69
      @DylanL69 3 года назад +10

      @@vicmccartin Chevy have the distributor in the back and are a pain in the ass to get to 2nd the different bolt patterns means it has a stronger transmission plus gm doesn't give you room room to work on them like mopar

    • @clembob8004
      @clembob8004 3 года назад +6

      @@jjtool5800 Yep, 2 different bell housings is not a big issue at all.

  • @ludditeneaderthal
    @ludditeneaderthal 3 года назад +157

    Lol, uncle Kathy chronicles the slow descent into madness... the abyss stares back Tony!

  • @MrDaChicken
    @MrDaChicken 3 года назад +130

    One millisecond after the hands come up in what looks like a measured distance, while walking past a Fiero.
    Me. " Oh no. Here it comes... "
    Tony. " It'll fit "..........
    Me. Oh you poor bastard. The road to hell is paved with fabrication my son.
    This will be glorious and painful all at once. As Cathy laughs maniacally in the background. Can't wait.

    • @FoysAutomotive
      @FoysAutomotive 3 года назад +5

      I did this same thing one time trying to put a small block Chevy in a Honda Accord my buddys where like watch out he’s thinking.

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 3 года назад +3

      @@FoysAutomotive I've seen an early hemi in an70s era accord or civic once, obviously it amounted to a shell on a tube chassis.

    • @FoysAutomotive
      @FoysAutomotive 3 года назад +2

      @@DrewLSsix hell yea that would be cool mine was a 92 and I wanted to keep it front wheel drive. It never worked out. It would be easy now with those impala ss 5.3s

    • @alforster718
      @alforster718 3 года назад +4

      Curses Ford's for 10 minutes..then goes.." Oh...a fiero????" You pretty much found the only place you're going to find them Tony...lol

    • @DougsterWolverineGarage
      @DougsterWolverineGarage 3 года назад +3

      My friends had some v8 swapped fiero and they like to wheelie under hard acceleration

  • @jt93308
    @jt93308 3 года назад +91

    As a Ford guy, I appreciate Tony's perspective and backs up his comments with solid evidence.
    It's not a great design...

    • @mikehaslett3738
      @mikehaslett3738 3 года назад +6

      Lol yep. It sucks

    • @nealsidor1323
      @nealsidor1323 2 года назад +3

      Headers solve the problem. Installing them is a nightmare all its own though...

    • @BPattB
      @BPattB Год назад +1

      @@nealsidor1323 in smaller Mustangs like my 65 because the stupid shock Tower you can only fit a 351W without serious modifications. It's all right I still love them but it definitely sucks.

    • @seana806
      @seana806 Год назад +1

      @@BPattB I think it’s the same for the Falcon if someone were to put a large FE engine in since they basically are the same car since the Mustang is a derivative of the Falcon.

    • @jeffnolan7392
      @jeffnolan7392 Год назад +1

      I agree. However... It's a lot better than those lower control arms on that chrysler "c" body with that torsion bar suspension. Or the lower control arms on a chevy that you have to get a press for the ball joints, and it's still better than ANY Macpherson strut. The problems that come with all cars, and they all have 'em, come from cost reduced manufacture and design compromise between performance and ride, mileage and weight\power, and trying to sell that to the public. I don't think I know a mechanic that likes the way any car was built after the Model "A".

  • @kskoog2019
    @kskoog2019 3 года назад +23

    You just reminded me that back in the early 80’s when I was an auto mechanic, I spent so much time replacing Ford upper ball joints and upper/inner bushings that I was making my boss some serious money!

  • @calebdean2440
    @calebdean2440 3 года назад +89

    The inner Ford fan in me was ready to argue the second I saw the title, but as usual Uncle Tony was spot on with his complaint on the FoMoCo spring towers.

    • @lazyrrr2411
      @lazyrrr2411 3 года назад +7

      Agreed ... Coming from Uncle Tony , ℹ'll Respect that

    • @misterhat5823
      @misterhat5823 3 года назад +4

      Yeah... I'll give him that. Nothing, even a Ford, is perfect.

    • @craigvoclain1406
      @craigvoclain1406 3 года назад +4

      Some fords you can notch the strut towers to fit better exhaust

    • @davidleonard8369
      @davidleonard8369 3 года назад +8

      GM sure made a lot of novas with the same setup. Nothing a straight axle and fenderwell headers won't fix.

    • @craigvoclain1406
      @craigvoclain1406 3 года назад +1

      My 64 fairlane has the same set up. I plan on putting a fake Boss 302 in it.

  • @deniseb3897
    @deniseb3897 3 года назад +70

    I'm assuming that's his wife that is filming this. When he started walking toward that Fiero with his calibrated hands starting to measure, I could just feel her eyes roll. He seems like a nice guy, so I'm glad that he has an understanding wife with a sense of humor. Those are golden!

    • @DougsterWolverineGarage
      @DougsterWolverineGarage 3 года назад +4

      Tony has micrometer eyes and torque wrench arms! (Click....)

    • @machinist7230
      @machinist7230 3 года назад +2

      He is a nice guy - I used to know Tony when he lived in NY, and lost touch when he moved South. I picked up all sorts of interesting knowledge from him, like "be careful with Magneto's, they hurt like @&¢¥% when they zap you"🤣

    • @DougsterWolverineGarage
      @DougsterWolverineGarage 3 года назад +4

      We had a high performance shop in Grand Rapids Mi. That also had a used speed part section. my friend Allen picked up a Jacob's magneto and gave it a spin before I could warn him, it got him good! He threw it down and surprisingly he didn't break the glass topped display case it was sitting on! His eyes were the size of dinner plates!

    • @DougsterWolverineGarage
      @DougsterWolverineGarage 3 года назад +1

      I got my lesson from a old Wisconsin 4 cyl engine the mag poked me on the leg. I was standing to close to it!

    • @juanfo7307
      @juanfo7307 3 года назад

      We have a never adhered to rule in my house no new projects until the old one sells

  • @1fast28
    @1fast28 3 года назад +190

    Proof that Uncle Tony has a slanted view of the car world.

    • @cjbert6790
      @cjbert6790 3 года назад +6

      I want a slant 6 with a thermoquad.

    • @fearlessshadow5856
      @fearlessshadow5856 3 года назад +8

      'slanted reality' t shirts??

    • @matthewklein9225
      @matthewklein9225 3 года назад

      Why would anyone want to swap in a slant 6

    • @MoparStephen
      @MoparStephen 3 года назад +2

      @@faststang85 Only if you don't know how to tune a carb. There's more to it than installing it and turning the idle screw.

    • @ks_1111
      @ks_1111 3 года назад +3

      @@faststang85 EFI is for lazy cucks

  • @mattfarahsmillionmilelexus
    @mattfarahsmillionmilelexus 3 года назад +15

    One good thing about the spring towers was the style of headers that the racers had to use to get the 427s to breathe. The front tubes went straight down and under the lower control arms where they connected to the other three tubes, making for the most radical looking headers of the door slammer days. The cars looked so ferocious from the front, and they worked too. Now replacing the plugs on a 428 CJ Mustang, don't get me started.

    • @jeffnolan7392
      @jeffnolan7392 Год назад

      Ol' Journeyman here... For the right side, you pull the glove box and punch a two inch hole in the firewall so you can get an air ratchet in there. After, fill it with a heavy edge plug (grommet).Or the plugs come in and out right over the control arms. IF you jack up the car and let the suspension hang, remove the front wheels, then you can go over the upper shafts. That's a pain in the ass, though, and should be coordinated with tire rotation or brake job.

    • @richardthompson6366
      @richardthompson6366 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@jeffnolan7392Oof

  • @Mike-vh5vy
    @Mike-vh5vy 3 года назад +9

    I love that Uncle Tony is so old school he still says "filming"! Like they are still out there with a super 8 pointed at him! Love this guy! Cracks me up! I hope I'm in good enough health to be out wondering the junkyard pissed at stupid designs 50 years after they make them!

    • @Hybridknfgrowchannel
      @Hybridknfgrowchannel 2 месяца назад

      It should be video recording otherwise it could also mean just audio

  • @throttlewatch4614
    @throttlewatch4614 3 года назад +90

    Uncle Kathy does a fantastic job behind the camera

    • @Thirdgen83
      @Thirdgen83 3 года назад +2

      She really does.

    • @georgepierce8535
      @georgepierce8535 3 года назад +2

      She holds cameras. It is what she does.

    • @throttlewatch4614
      @throttlewatch4614 3 года назад +1

      @@georgepierce8535 but she does a great job of it it’s like you forget there’s even a camera person there she is always in focus says very little knows right where to go and In this video she caught a great candid moment which had me cracking up

  • @jesselayden9480
    @jesselayden9480 3 года назад +167

    Tesla: BEHOLD THE WORLDS BEST ELECTRIC CAR!!!! Uncle Tony: bet a slant'll fit right in there 😂😂

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 3 года назад +3

      I want a 61 cube Briggs v twin with open pipes in mine please 😂

    • @jesselayden9480
      @jesselayden9480 3 года назад +3

      @@MrTheHillfolk don't forget a turbo lol

    • @aspalovin
      @aspalovin 3 года назад +3

      A Slant Tesla would be epic

    • @kramnull8962
      @kramnull8962 3 года назад +2

      @@MrTheHillfolk To keep with the Tesla theme you can put 1 V twin per wheel.

    • @3DRCRACER
      @3DRCRACER 3 года назад +4

      Go see what Rich is having to do to put an LS in to a Tesla.

  • @JimmyLoose
    @JimmyLoose 3 года назад +84

    I absolutely love you guys. All the UTG "staff." I only ask one thing: Please do not change. Please just keep being the way you are. Don't go off the rails like Roadkill did.

    • @Sackhund123
      @Sackhund123 3 года назад +12

      @Adrian Vegas Some people don’t like that Roadkill went from low buck YT to professionally produced „TV show“ that you have to pay for. They also use new, shiny quality parts that sometimes come from sponsors that are expensive to buy instead of rebuild junkyard parts. People say they „sold out“ and are no real hotrodders because of that.

    • @TheBabyDerp
      @TheBabyDerp 3 года назад +6

      @@Sackhund123 whenever they go down that route, it becomes less approachable to the common joe.

    • @anonanonski2234
      @anonanonski2234 3 года назад +2

      Man, I really miss the old Roadkill where they built things like the Charger..

    • @harrymills2770
      @harrymills2770 3 года назад

      @@TheBabyDerp Oh I dunno. Sometimes making do with what's on hand is harder than just buying what you need. Fabricating motor mounts and "rearranging" things is not necessarily very realistic. But buying a short block that's made for the chassis is a whole lot easier and not ridiculously expensive.

  • @lilolecruisingarage7148
    @lilolecruisingarage7148 3 года назад +8

    Yeah, I never liked those shock towers either. Not all Fords had them though, just the unibodies. The Galaxies, Marauders and Montereys didn't. They had full frames, different suspensions and a lot more room under their hoods. One more reason why I love 'em!

    • @bradmckay7439
      @bradmckay7439 7 месяцев назад +1

      Glad I want the old one saying that, totally depended what car you have. Galaxies and later fairlanes actually have quite a bit of room!

    • @jimbojimson
      @jimbojimson 4 месяца назад

      I think NASCAR had the right idea when it came to building unibody cars for competition. Everything becomes body on frame with a narrowed Galaxie front suspension. Hell, that's what the Torino and Montego became in '72.

  • @JosueRodriguez-fv3hs
    @JosueRodriguez-fv3hs 3 года назад +2

    I can already see UT’s new channel, Will it Slant Six? Where he installs slants in Miatas, fieros, accords, slant sixes inside slant sixes, to replace the generator in his house, in stranger’s cars in the grocery store parking lot...

  • @2packs4sure
    @2packs4sure 3 года назад +16

    I'm a Ford guy for 40 years and you're absolutely right, lol..

  • @BlackheartCharlie
    @BlackheartCharlie 3 года назад +66

    "There's nothing fun. No fun to be had here! Bad, bad thing." I can't stop laughing! Thank you Uncle Tony! I really needed a laugh after a tough week.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 3 года назад

      Reminds me of when Howard Stern uses that Billy Crystal clip: it's not funny ,it's not fun.

    • @mikesr3407
      @mikesr3407 3 года назад

      Dang it I knew I should have read comments first , same here Charlie !

    • @animoetprudentia2865
      @animoetprudentia2865 3 года назад

      I'll drink to that!

    • @chrisnedbalek2866
      @chrisnedbalek2866 20 дней назад

      5:33

  • @welltell.
    @welltell. 3 года назад +32

    Oh man the genuine reaction Uncle Tony had to the Fierro was priceless and honest. Actually if he did all his videos like this, he would be way more entertaining.

  • @Doosterify
    @Doosterify 3 года назад +3

    For decades the world has questioned why Ford designed their chassis the way they did. The only reason I can think of is Ford must have wanted as long of a coil spring as possible for ride quality.

  • @Sulfuron41
    @Sulfuron41 3 года назад +5

    I own a 1965 TBird like you were looking at, and I love it. I also couldn't agree more with everything you said. Those damn shock towers are such a nightmare on so many different levels... I'm surprised you didn't mention the top exhaust manifold bolts on the FE. Why Ford WHY!?!?

  • @davidchristensen2970
    @davidchristensen2970 3 года назад +22

    It’s management culture.
    One stubborn/strong personality in a position of authority will crush all reasonable thought.

    • @manher4335
      @manher4335 3 года назад

      Wow so true. Excellent comment. Kinda like what's happening in GM right now

  • @johnbandhauer9224
    @johnbandhauer9224 3 года назад +37

    Thank you Kathy. That was hilarious. I'm so glad you filmed and posted that bit at the end. Great job!

  • @WW-bt3tx
    @WW-bt3tx 3 года назад +16

    I tried to search for "Seymore Balls", don't just don't.

    • @mikeskipworth856
      @mikeskipworth856 3 года назад

      😂😂😂

    • @vandervan22
      @vandervan22 3 года назад

      🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣

    • @73ac39
      @73ac39 3 года назад +1

      It was Seymour Balz. Hot Cars was a great mag.

    • @bobbrinkerhoff3592
      @bobbrinkerhoff3592 3 года назад +1

      @@73ac39 You got that right!

  • @jamesford2942
    @jamesford2942 3 года назад +2

    That restricted exhaust was used in their trucks as well even though there was a ton of room to put a bigger free flowing manifold.

  • @deang9061
    @deang9061 3 года назад +2

    Being the owner of a 65 Galixie with a 390 FE, I was about to unsubscribe when I saw the title, but I heard you out. I agree and will continue to subscribe. Thanks for all the great info.

  • @charlesschenkbecher
    @charlesschenkbecher 3 года назад +41

    +1 for the slant Fiero!!!

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 3 года назад

      Monza or maybe a 1st gen mr2.
      I saw a nasty rusty one of those for sale the other day 😁

    • @chickenray182
      @chickenray182 3 года назад

      *fiero*

  • @hahayes3830
    @hahayes3830 3 года назад +9

    1970 Ford Galaxie LTD. I just picked one up... miles of space to work under the hood with with proper front suspension! 385 series 429, 9 inch rear end. Check them out! They're still cheap!

    • @Patrick-cs6qi
      @Patrick-cs6qi 3 года назад +1

      I read that ford originally was going to install the Boss 429 in the full size Ford XL because it would fit right in easily, instead of messing with the shock towers like they did with the Mustang but the XL wasn't considered sporty enough so they chose the Mustang for homologation.

  • @ronprice7495
    @ronprice7495 3 года назад +11

    I think the early 70's fury's with a slant 6 are cool because they are almost as big as an imperial but have this tiny looking engine under the hood with enormous amounts of room around it. Something about that is cool to me.

  • @KurtTank392
    @KurtTank392 3 года назад +1

    My 1968 Ford F100 Truck with 390 FE engine is still running. With rebuilt engine and added power steering and AC, I get (thumbs up) from people every day

  • @stevenbongiorno9277
    @stevenbongiorno9277 Год назад +2

    I agree completely! Those cars have so many things going for them, but that front suspension kills any ideas that you can make up to make them really perform, and it’s sad

  • @Peter-V_00
    @Peter-V_00 3 года назад +21

    As far as I see it, when any make/model is working it's a good one, when they are not working they are all junk regardless of brand.

  • @nextellcup8
    @nextellcup8 3 года назад +11

    im so sending this to my buddy, he has one of them Tbirds and he hates mopar . thanks for the awesome work Uncle tony

  • @mongomay1
    @mongomay1 3 года назад +45

    Uncle Tony definitely needs a chaperone in a salvage yard.

    • @larryfogle3697
      @larryfogle3697 3 года назад +6

      Don’t we all?

    • @terryl7855
      @terryl7855 3 года назад +4

      I wish they had boneyards like that where I lived.

  • @bizzybcarm.d.7828
    @bizzybcarm.d.7828 3 года назад +5

    "The guys name was Seymour balls." Classic

  • @erich7751
    @erich7751 3 года назад +5

    “You know what Ford stands for right? Fix it again Tony.” - Dale Gribble

    • @benzobrimzs
      @benzobrimzs 3 года назад

      That's Fiat

    • @tonyjofenig6833
      @tonyjofenig6833 3 года назад +2

      @@benzobrimzs Think you missed the Dale Gribble part, if you google him you will get the reference.

  • @peteg4978
    @peteg4978 3 года назад +17

    The 3800 supercharged fits in that Fiero

    • @mindblownwatcher8536
      @mindblownwatcher8536 3 года назад +3

      Fits in an early Cavalier also😏

    • @codyramos3200
      @codyramos3200 3 года назад +4

      350 v8 will fit in fiero too... guy use to take his v8 fiero to local car meet, people would flock to check it out.. only fiero I ever thought was cool.

    • @Whats-It-To-Ya
      @Whats-It-To-Ya 3 года назад

      @@mindblownwatcher8536 I can attest to that. I have one in my '93 Z24. 5-Speed too. The swap from auto to 5-speed was more challenging than the motor swap itself. I have another motor I just rebuilt that's going into a'91 Cavalier 4-door. It's puke brown with black steelies and ugly as f*ck. It's going to be my sleeper. These kids with these rice burners are in for a big surprise. I gapped the living $hit out of a foxbody with full Bolton's with the Z24 just last weekend. I love it.

  • @moparcasey3135
    @moparcasey3135 3 года назад +10

    I just did a LS swap on a fiero, it was very tight length wise, had to cut into the frame on both sides. A slant is probably longer! It’d be cool though!!

    • @Digitalsharecropper
      @Digitalsharecropper 3 года назад

      @@frenchonion4595 Go with a mild 4.3 chevy. Plenty of power and parts galore

  • @merc-ni7hy
    @merc-ni7hy 3 года назад +14

    if you are building something with am F,E that doesnt have shock towers and want the biggest bang for your buck for your first mod ..always get headers and dual exhaust on a F.E and it wakes them up pretty good

  • @oldtanker4860
    @oldtanker4860 3 года назад +1

    Chevy also sandwiched V-8's in a small area as well. A 67 impala you had to drill a hole in the fender well to get to the back plugs or pull the enhgine.

  • @fuhkoffandie
    @fuhkoffandie 3 года назад +1

    I got a good story for you Tony. When I worked a shop, we had a Crown Victoria come in, one of the things on the list was change the gas filter. Now this is like a 92 Crown Victoria cop car looking thing. I get it on the lift.Jack the car up, & what do I see? A factory Ford Spin on fuel filter!!! I shit you not, factory installed, right down to the mounting brackets. After a few minutes of scratching my head, i called the dealership. They told me that it was factory installed, but there's no listing for it. You see, when they run out of a part, they substituted with whatever they had laying around, and since it's the last ten thousand units or so, it doesn't make it into the book or the listing. So here you have a bastard part, on a bastard of a car, with no listing, and no way to even replace it without that part number that's on the original. There's literally no listing anywhere, for a spin on gas filter on a Crown Victoria. It looked like an oil filter hanging down from the frame. And I can go on all day long about Fords. Oh, and then there's the dreaded lower ball joint issue with Crown Vics. I can't tell you how many Crown Victorias and Grand Marquis that were blocking major intersections, because the lower ball joint had snapped or just disconnected completely, and left the car like a brick wherever it broke. Wreckers even had a hard time loading them, because the loaded lower control arm is just bashing the ground. And, not only have I been an ASE certified Master Tech for 36 years, I also drove a wrecker for years, so I know.

  • @TheLowerman
    @TheLowerman 3 года назад +21

    Uncle Tony exclaims “Get me some grease and some tire irons, we can put a Slant 6 in the back of a ‘64 Beetle”

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 3 года назад +5

      Best thing about swapping anything into an old VW is you have infinite room with a little trimming! Don't need no back bumper or hood!

    • @lilmike2710
      @lilmike2710 3 года назад +1

      Dont give him any ideas.
      A slant in a VW bug would be an abomination.

    • @DougsterWolverineGarage
      @DougsterWolverineGarage 3 года назад +3

      Flip transaxle and put slanty in backseat! This is do-able! Slanty swap EVERYTHING!

    • @entropy156
      @entropy156 3 года назад +2

      My dad knew a guy who put a Hemi in a Beetle...so, hey...it's possible.

  • @foquai7458
    @foquai7458 3 года назад +21

    it will fit right in there... famous last words

    • @aussiebloke609
      @aussiebloke609 3 года назад

      Reminds me of the early days of Project Binky. "They say it can't be done..." :-D

  • @Sedan57Chevy
    @Sedan57Chevy 3 года назад +8

    You can't stop me, I still want a 390 Thunderbird!

    • @154Jamesp
      @154Jamesp 3 года назад +2

      I'm looking at 428 birds right now. Something nice to take the lady out for an ice cream cone.

  • @hankthayer7425
    @hankthayer7425 3 года назад +3

    I am a long time Ford guy, but yeah, those shock towers are a heart breaker. But he missed another one. He had his hand right above the place where the PUSH RODS GO THROUGH THE INTAKE MANIFOLD! It is one of the most bizarre designs in the world. You can't swap the intake without pulling the pushrods. And you really want to get that 100 lb cast iron intake out of there.

  • @qbraun9241
    @qbraun9241 3 года назад +3

    Great video. I enjoyed the Fiero moment. I once saw a guy put a turbocharged V6 Buick motor into one of those, and it made it scary fast. The car is so light and mid engine configuration turns it really into a poorboy's 80's Ferrari going from 100 to 300 HP wound up.

  • @strokermaverick
    @strokermaverick 3 года назад +25

    Uncle Tony and his precise, measuring instruments.😄

    • @kramnull8962
      @kramnull8962 3 года назад +5

      Hey a slant is only Yea long...

    • @strokermaverick
      @strokermaverick 3 года назад

      @@kramnull8962 😁

    • @Mike-vh5vy
      @Mike-vh5vy 3 года назад +1

      If you froze him in that position and set him in front of a slant six his hands would be perfectly on each end of it!

  • @mozzarella-king
    @mozzarella-king 3 года назад +17

    Uncle Tony: making the world a better place, one Slant Six at a time.

  • @M_Phipps0520
    @M_Phipps0520 3 года назад +23

    The end was too funny, Great job Uncle Kathy!! 😂 😂

  • @conorbarclay721
    @conorbarclay721 3 года назад +1

    Uncle Tony is right again! I'm almost done swapping a 351 Cleveland into my 1967 Mustang but the headers still don't fit. After much careful denting, they still wedge against the drivers side shock tower which forces the motor to sit at a slight angle. I bought Hooker competition headers that were advertised to fit the 67 chassis even though they aren't anywhere close to fitting. If anybody has done this swap I'd love to hear what headers you used. Or anybody who has run into similar issues and found a fix.

  • @harryvarner6652
    @harryvarner6652 2 года назад +1

    A cousin of mine had a 68 Mustang with a 428. Had to unbolt the engine mounts and jack up the engine to change the spark plugs. Nice car but still was a pain to do so.

  • @f4phantom68
    @f4phantom68 3 года назад +10

    Settled down to watch this video after trying to get a 1967 390 mustang to start after sitting for a while... odd coincidence.

    • @colinl5951
      @colinl5951 3 года назад +3

      Try harder. Got an fe started after 30 yrs in 20 minutes.

    • @oxidizedbrilliance7852
      @oxidizedbrilliance7852 3 года назад

      @The Catboy King wont even start on bottle feeding it? Either no spark or timing way out

    • @animoetprudentia2865
      @animoetprudentia2865 3 года назад

      Slant swap it!
      Hahaha!

    • @ajwilson605
      @ajwilson605 3 года назад

      @@cjbert6790 What do you think a 390 is?

    • @cjbert6790
      @cjbert6790 3 года назад

      AJ Wilson Sorry, my mistake,

  • @joel-vf5sd
    @joel-vf5sd 3 года назад +8

    Customers states "something is wrong with my car"
    Tony "It didnt come with a slant six"

  • @MrJayrock620
    @MrJayrock620 3 года назад +14

    It’s funny you mentioned a 428 into a Mustang. My uncle has a numbers matching 1970, and he had it on a rotisserie. When I asked him why there’s holes in the fender well he said “so you could change the spark plugs”. He was a Ford tech back in the day and he said it was completely normal for them to drill holes so they didn’t have to pull the motor. They even made templates for different models so all the had to do was Chuck up a hole saw and go.

    • @cjbert6790
      @cjbert6790 3 года назад +1

      I did the same thing.

  • @davidkieffer7278
    @davidkieffer7278 3 года назад +3

    This is exactly why I sold my late father's 66 428 Thunderbird! He dreamed of building that car with me and we never got it done. But it was such a nightmare to work on I just got rid of it instead of fulfilling his dream. Also big block Fords eat exhaust manifolds and gaskets for lunch which makes this problem even more of a nightmare!

  • @edbeeinnv
    @edbeeinnv 9 месяцев назад +1

    Having installed Hooker headers in a '67 Mustang with an FE engine I can relate to this video. Funny thing was when I bought the car the previous owner had just had a tune up at a local garage but they only changed 7 of the plugs and gave him the other new plug and had told him to come back when he could leave the car over night (so they could change that last plug when the engine was cold). Much as I love my mustang (I've had it over 40 years) there is no denying the FE doesn't really fit between those shock towers very well!
    PS - I just discovered your videos/channel and it is great! Thanks!

  • @MAFmotors
    @MAFmotors 3 года назад +33

    Uncle Tony wants to slant the world!!!! Lol love it

  • @ltdjag7577
    @ltdjag7577 3 года назад +16

    Uncle Tony, “No fun to be had here”. Damn those shock towers

  • @claudhenrysmoot7957
    @claudhenrysmoot7957 3 года назад +20

    “ What did we do to deserve this?“ bahaha!!!

  • @j.t.cooper2963
    @j.t.cooper2963 Год назад +1

    I never had a car nickel and dime me more than my Dodge, but I still got 300,000 miles from my 318 with the only internal failure being a timing chain.

  • @lilibethdoherty295
    @lilibethdoherty295 3 года назад +1

    Matt Helm ( Dino Martini) AKA Dean Martin by his Hollywood name drove that car as the American James Bond, That was Mat Helm"s version of an Aston Martin here in the USA!

  • @64tbolt64
    @64tbolt64 3 года назад +4

    Literally my biggest pet peeve in my 64 Fairlane with a 351W.

  • @heathenamerican8149
    @heathenamerican8149 3 года назад +21

    Epic unit of measurement Uncle Tony.

  • @robs1852
    @robs1852 3 года назад +27

    Someone got so sick of busting knuckles and getting their hands stuck in there that they just junked the whole fleet.

  • @michaellombard894
    @michaellombard894 5 месяцев назад

    Tony your vids are great! Good communication skills.
    I've had a few Ford's too:
    •88 Mustang GT 5.0 5-SP
    •91 Mustang LX 5.0 Auto
    • 74 F-100 390!! FE!!
    •65 Mustang w retrofitted 351 Cleveland.
    I tell you the Foxes were great, when I had the GT I was living at sea level. I'm not a hot rodder so the issues you articulated weren't an issue for me. (Oil sump design etc.)
    The GT was really practical for that category of car (hatchback, a bit taller than the Camaro/Bird, fold-flat 60/40 rear seats).
    The LX, as a convertible with auto trans and living in Denver with thin air, it had anemic performance.

  • @paulhooker7701
    @paulhooker7701 2 года назад

    I have a 71 camper special truck. Love it. Headers and stock save for the hei aftermarket. 360 runs good. Glass packs help.

  • @piercehawke8021
    @piercehawke8021 3 года назад +4

    All big FoMoCo cars, along 1967+ T birds, had their coil springs on the lower, not upper control arms, during the entire FE era. The 1966 down Birds as well as all Falcons, Mustangs and 1962+ Fairlanes did use the style as described by Tony.

  • @biastv1234
    @biastv1234 3 года назад +19

    Ha ha, ‘ I’m getting sick just looking at it’ hilarious.

  • @radioguy1620
    @radioguy1620 3 года назад +15

    Tony doesnt realize he had a counter part in the Ford engineering dept who loved FE big blocks, sure it 'll fit in there.

    • @u121921
      @u121921 3 года назад +6

      I was building a 390 mustang out of a 68 with a 200-6 back in 78 . When i saw the size and stiffness of the springs and realized the weight on the nose i switched to a warmed over 302 with C4 . A friend took the FE + C6 and stuck it into a 67 Falcon , even after assembling the headers in car after engine installation he decided he needed a 427 . We both removed the Power steering add ons . Guess which car you couldn't parallel park ?

    • @manher4335
      @manher4335 3 года назад

      @@u121921 lol i guess whoever tried to or has done it repeatedly has Popeye arms now and is irritable

  • @marknease1631
    @marknease1631 3 года назад +1

    Well, a tombstone has a birth date, a dash and then a death date. Make your dash meaningful. Glad to see Uncle Tony giving meaning to his dash, especially fulfilling the challenges of “slant-sixing ” these small sport’s cars.

  • @fourbanger
    @fourbanger 3 года назад +1

    I've always said...
    Designed by the summer intern and then approved by the senior engineer on the golf course...

  • @superduty4556
    @superduty4556 3 года назад +5

    The 60s galaxies have a GM style front suspension. It's a miracle.

    • @OldFarmAcresJoelK.
      @OldFarmAcresJoelK. 3 года назад +2

      gm drag cars uses ford 9inch rear ends.

    • @christopheraugustine5816
      @christopheraugustine5816 3 года назад

      It was a full size chassis thing, despite his characterization.

    • @MrSloika
      @MrSloika 3 года назад

      Years ago I read an article about modding 1st Gen Mustang suspensions. The 1st Gen Mustang suspension was straight out of the Falcon. The Falcon was as basic as a car could be. A mom 'n pop special that had no sporting pretenses whatsoever. The suspension was designed to provide a reasonable ride, good reliability and most importantly BE CHEAP TO PRODUCE. At the time Ford was also tinkering with the idea of using MacPherson strut, which would need suspension towers like those used on the Falcon/Mustang. Yes, MacPherson strut was considered way back in the late 50s for North American Fords. Earle MacPherson developed his namesake suspension at GM in the 1940s, but Earle felt that GM was not taking his work seriously so he move to Ford and took the design work he had done at GM with him. Ford decided against using struts in North America because they couldn't justify the added expense on a such a cheap throwaway car like the Falcon. Interestingly, Ford Europe really took to the MacPherson strut, many Euro-Fords using that type of suspension before Ford North America got around to it.

  • @erniemanco
    @erniemanco 3 года назад +24

    "I WANNA SLANT SWAP THE WORLD!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! love it!

  • @OGbqze
    @OGbqze 3 года назад +4

    Ford can be an amazing route! If you have time and money. This is a prime example of why most guys nowadays are Chevy guys. Chevys make power cheap and reliably. Ford's make power expensively.

    • @DylanL69
      @DylanL69 3 года назад

      Ford engines are low torque engines

    • @barneymiller7894
      @barneymiller7894 3 года назад

      Check out NeoMustangs here on YT, you can run 10s with a stock bottom end 302 in a foxbody and a cheap China turbo kit.

    • @OGbqze
      @OGbqze 2 года назад

      @@DylanL69 opposite

  • @SoI_Badguy
    @SoI_Badguy 3 года назад +1

    Oh my God that part with you sizing up a slant for a fiero I'm in tears

  • @justaburgscousin
    @justaburgscousin 3 года назад

    I’ve got a 66 galaxie with a 390fe big block. They’re notorious for exhaust manifold issue, but I still love the FEs

  • @iggyfritz7150
    @iggyfritz7150 3 года назад +10

    Okay Tony when you started looking at that Fiero wanting to put a slant Chrysler motor in there I instantly knew that you truly need a vacation 😂😂😂😂

    • @saxmusicmail
      @saxmusicmail 3 года назад +3

      That stuff is what keeps him alive.

  • @CreationsVibration
    @CreationsVibration 3 года назад +29

    The GM video is going to be a 30 minute video

    • @NoOne-oe3co
      @NoOne-oe3co 3 года назад +3

      Now days yes haha

    • @codyramos3200
      @codyramos3200 3 года назад +4

      The big 3 could all have a 30min video on why they suck...

    • @misterhat5823
      @misterhat5823 3 года назад

      I don't see how the Mopar one was any shorter than that.

  • @joshdively8029
    @joshdively8029 3 года назад +11

    Maybe Derek from vice grip would make ya a deal on his fiero

  • @gvxclassics
    @gvxclassics 3 года назад

    Exactly! Yes! and I am a ford guy... Don't forget the frames that always rust and are largely disconnected from the front to rear of car, so you have to add "frame stiffeners"

  • @JA-sm9zf
    @JA-sm9zf 23 дня назад

    Thank you so much for the bonus footage - that was the best part !!! God bless you both

  • @michaellitscher9456
    @michaellitscher9456 3 года назад +10

    "Hi, my name is Tony, and I am a slant-a-holic."

  • @TargaWheels
    @TargaWheels 3 года назад +8

    The one good thing about Ford's from that era was the solenoid on the inner fender.

    • @alankulchecki3160
      @alankulchecki3160 3 года назад +1

      and the front mount distributor, fe water pumps were easy to change out,

    • @timsharpe3498
      @timsharpe3498 3 года назад +2

      Right, so we could punk Ford drivers by connecting the start wire to their horn.

    • @timsharpe3498
      @timsharpe3498 3 года назад

      @Charlie Darwin
      GM alternators were light years ahead of Ford’s sorry charging systems. The more recent internal regulator Ford units are decent enough but those external ones are total garbage. I used to work at a big fleet operation and 5 Ford alternators and regulators failed for every GM and Chrysler unit. The Ford cop car units were the worst. The Ford electronic ignition boxes also had a high failure rate and Ford had class action lawsuits over the TFI modules due to chronic stalling issues.

    • @timsharpe3498
      @timsharpe3498 3 года назад

      @Charlie Darwin
      The only thing I totally agree on is the GM starter shims. I forgot to mention how lousy the Ford power steering pumps are. We also had lots of trouble with premature Ford transmission failures. Better idea my butt!
      By the way. Most Ford starters have an integral solenoid.

    • @timsharpe3498
      @timsharpe3498 3 года назад

      @Charlie Darwin
      The point I’m making is that modern Ford starters and alternators are made a lot like older GM starters and alternators because GM was 50 years ahead of Ford in technology. GM invented car starters, automatic transmissions and many other innovations while Ford made inferior copies.
      The reason you prefer old Fords is because you like Stone Age technology.

  • @htwrk2
    @htwrk2 3 года назад +5

    I have a disease! I make myself sick! I am laughing my ass off right now! That’s me! Tony finish the Miata first but grab that Fiero for another time! I see it too!

  • @richardwashburn9954
    @richardwashburn9954 3 года назад

    Not defending Ford but looking at the spring on that Thunerbird shows exactly why they put the spring over the upper a-arm instead of between. It allows for a longer spring which in turn gives a softer ride.

  • @paulhoskins7852
    @paulhoskins7852 3 года назад

    Uncle Tony, I have a 1994 Ford Ranger. I give you the go-ahead to slant-swap it if you want. Love what you do!

  • @erich8422
    @erich8422 3 года назад +16

    Go for the Fiero slant six LOL

  • @jontrudell7529
    @jontrudell7529 3 года назад +5

    SLANTED FIERO HERE WE COME!!!

  • @shanescrimshire8395
    @shanescrimshire8395 3 года назад +9

    "Look at this terrible design, its universal across the brand" then walk over to the exact same model to prove the point? I love you uncle Tony but come on.

    • @lb9gta307
      @lb9gta307 3 года назад +2

      The first car had the wheel and tire still on it. The second car didn't, allowing him to show the spring mounted up in the tower.

    • @j.h.9410
      @j.h.9410 3 года назад +4

      It's not universal across the brand even, the full size Ford did in fact have the spring 'where god intended'

  • @joekurtz8303
    @joekurtz8303 3 года назад

    I had unique luck with Factory header exhaust on Ford 4 cylinders . My 65 1.5 L Kent non crossflow block , and an 84 Escort 1.6 CVH H.O. both Factory equipped with decent runners & collectors. Plenty of room under the hood. Depends on how you look at it. Both had 2bbl Webers as well
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  • @1984xlx
    @1984xlx 3 года назад +2

    Although I love my Fords, you are absolutely right. There is no logical reason that I can find why they placed the suspension above the upper control arm.

  • @mitchevans1692
    @mitchevans1692 3 года назад +4

    NO TONY NO, we'll never see bottle rocket or plan z at this rate....

  • @arnaldofettuccine5227
    @arnaldofettuccine5227 3 года назад +19

    😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😁 slant six in a Fiero and transverse 👍

    • @0004612
      @0004612 3 года назад +2

      How did I know he was gonna say , “We can fit a slant in this spot”? Great video again Tony! Now I I know why they used to call the ford 390 a boat anchor...

    • @lilmike2710
      @lilmike2710 3 года назад

      Let's see him cram a slant in a Corvair.. That would be cool

    • @DougsterWolverineGarage
      @DougsterWolverineGarage 3 года назад +1

      @@lilmike2710 its doable! If they v8 swap corvair it can be slanty swapped flip transaxle and put engine in backseat, mid engine bay-bee!

  • @mehmeh5471
    @mehmeh5471 3 года назад +7

    More tours of the boneyard please! Do some other rusted hulks and rip into them!

  • @TrainmasterRR
    @TrainmasterRR 3 года назад

    Yup!!! I have a 66 Thunderbird with a factory 428. I had to pull the engine to replace the seized exhaust manifold bolts. Then... I put long tube headers on it. (Completely understand the hating life bit) Then... nothing else fit. But, it’s all good now and we’re having more fun than ever. 🙂

  • @mattd7566
    @mattd7566 3 года назад

    Ive got a 225 block if you want it Tony. Needs a quick trip to the machine shop but its good. Crank is cast and for an automatic. Head is available too.