You don't lose points by getting it wrong, just by asking for hints or giving up. That's actually quite clever and based gamification. Look for Mark Rober's talk on the Super Mario effect.
I think it's important to supplement Datacamp with other resources. Maybe some others like Coursera/Udemy for some high level theory. Like you said, it's great for learning syntax and for beginners who need a lot of spoon feeding. I am learning Python and SQL on this platform right now. After a a short video, we jump into these exercises with fill-in-the-blanks without knowing what server it is using, how to upload datasets into the server, and sometimes what the goal of a problem is. It takes you to a screen and you just starting filling in the blanks. It doesn't reflect real life. Datacamp is valuable for learning technical skills (and I really like their user interface), but I think newbies need additional resources.
Actually what you just described is perfect for newbies. They run everything inside their own Python IDE because of you are running your instance directly into your own kernel and make a mistake you could really damage your computer. In the real world, no company will let you work on a server without a certification because you have no idea the amount of damage you can do.
I am a beginner and completely agree with your comment. In fact, I am creating my own notes while taking each course and reference them when working on projects. DataCamp helps me understand the syntax, but it isn’t until I apply the concepts to a project that I feel that I’ve learned.
Agree with that. Additionally, these filling blanks become completely useless and in the end you find out you know nothing. In my opinion, studying should introduce a challenge, otherwise it becomes boring and unhelpful at all. This is basically the reason i quit datacamp. It is just completely unchallenging, no matter what experience you have.
That's what happens with the introductory courses. If you take the full track, preferably the Career tracks.. As you progress, you then go to setting up the environment.. And these then reconnects with your prior knowledge gained from the introductory courses. I find Datacamp a great place vis a vis Coursera. Coursera is great for learning the logic and concepts... Datacamp takes you directly to the practicals...
Hi, yes you can get a free professional data analyst certificate or depends on the path that you want, you can use those certificates to show your work to your potential employer but most of all data camp will help you to build your own portfolio
i've been using datacamp for a few years now to get into python/sql and learn data analytics and machine learning. one thing i hate about it is the code exercises are only little snippets so its hard in real life to do something A-Z. it also feels like you are just going through the motions of completing courses and not actually learning. it's good to get a basic overview of stuff tho
Agreed. It was a good starting point for me but nothing more. And because it's so easy for someone to just run through it just to say they do (despite me making a concerted effort to dig deeper), it didn't give me much confidence that completion would be well-respected. There's also way too much overlap in the different courses along a single track. You can tell, a bit too much, that the courses weren't collectively developed for the track you're on; instead, each course is designed to have their place in multiple tracks so a course will spend quite a bit of time going over things you learned already.
@@michaelb9940 Hey, the exercises there r nt really gonna boost any confidence. What u can do is download their dataset(from the page of course syllabus page where they list out chapters) and use that dataset on ur local system and do a little play around.
The way I worked through it is I had the courses open along side the documentation. I would go back and forth and then go into my own code editor to explore the different options mentioned in the documentation to experiment and that’s where u really do the learning. If u run through the courses as quick as possible u won’t do learn deeply
Finished my Google Data Analytics recently, now jumping in for DataCamp Statistician with R. I love the interface and practice exercises so much more than how it was handled by Coursera. Screw multiple choice questions, they are useless.
@@cspan1993 statistical data is the one I mostly work with, yes. Not sure how it useless, it is specialized. And R tools are evolving, in addition to Shiny some previously Python-exclusive frameworks to develop web apps now support R as well. I guess there is a demand for it.
@@AlexTheAnalyst im starting with SQL as you recommended, so I'm doing the SQL for data analysts track. I make sure to do each module twice and I have two left then I'll do projects. I've gone from knowing 0 to being competent! Since I'll be starting my MSc Data Science in September, I will be doing python for data scientists next!
I once paid just for one month, but it had a discount so I paid like 12 dollars only. Since I'm a beginner, I can say it definitely helped me getting familiar with the syntax (I was learning SQL back then). Now I'm watching your SQL videos which are really helpful!! Thanks
I have been using DataCamp for a while now and it's basically shaped my career. I owe this website a lot, plus I signed up for a year discount just $99 a WHOLE YEAR. this is insane.
I am halfway on the python programmer career track. I agree with some comments below that sometimes it feels that courses overlap themselves. The reason behind this might be that some of the courses belong to many career tracks, so they had to do them as broad as possible, to match other career tracks. The downside is that sometimes you feel a little confused, and not sure what is the direction of the course. However, I like that it encourages you to practice with the point reward system. I would prefer to include more references to real-world cases and more references to documentation.
Thanks for your review Alex! I'm a beginner at coding and have been completing courses from the Data Science for Everyone career track. I just wanted to add that I was using the free version of Data Camp and after a few days, I got offered a 62% discount code which was for a premium plan. It worked out to be cheaper than the standard plan (like $16 a month for a premium plan compared to $25 for a standard). I don't know if that would change many users mind, but I thought it was worth mentioning. Love your content and keep it up!
I have took a one year subscription, I am pretty satisfied for my money. However I think they should give more theoretical explanations on some some subjects like data science and machine learning. Or at least provide some external links that may help to understand better or deeper the theory behind the code and the packages. It is very difficult to jump into the code without sufficient insights on what a method really is.
I like the R courses because they help you apply any theoretical knowledge you've learned about statistics in school like Machine Learning, etc. I like the Python courses because they're fun especially the guided projects. I've used the videos for my classes, it helps me go above and beyond what is expected from the professor.
To be clear, the $25 "monthly" fee is paid as an annual subscription, so you will actually be charged a one-time annual fee of $300. If you do choose to pay monthly, then the cost is steeper, at $39. Still a cool website, and I'm tempted, but that gives me a little more pause to consider; if I could pay $25 each month, I would probably do it immediately.
Just a quick add-on as well. If you are still a student I know for a fact they do have some student discounts, which essentially cuts the $25 a month to roughly $12 a month. I was able to get it last December as someone who was just starting but really interested in learning Data Science for Python. I worked really quickly through most of the course, but faced some burnout. I was unsure if I was actually absorbing the material, but luckily they have exams you can take, and I've seen improvement in my scores despite not always feeling super confident. As a newbie to the Data Analytics/Science world, I feel like it definitely has helped, but I've also been looking out for alternatives to learn more efficiently, and feel like I can do some of these things on my own. Also, Alex I listened you to on Ken Jee's podcast, and have loved the channel. Keep up the awesome work, it really helps to know that people like you are out there as I try to navigate learning more about analytics and how the field can be rewarding and useful!
Your channel has been immensely helpful for me figuring out where the hell to start! I am currently on Codecademy on the DA path as well as taking the SQL on the side. I am also learning through YOU and youtube videos. I started Datacamp, but I agree with alot of the commenters. Just code snippets and such. Codecademy actually has me doing off-platform work and learning how to migrate data through PostgreSQL. Anyway, thanks Alex!
I have subscribed for second year for Datacamp and actually got the "cheaper" deal with approx. 12,5$ per month. I think this is a steal, even if it's just for syntax learning. But after one year, I think the best part is really the interactivity for me. Few videos, and then exercise and from scratch, so you are building on top of already learned skills. As you've said, probably best for beginners, not for advanced people. For me, it's great and for some time it still will be.
Being a beginner I liked getting the basics and found the lectures really good. In my experience with just about every sql course on data camp I took I was disappointed with the ability to practice recall. They basically give you a template to fill in the blanks which isn’t super helpful if you’re not thinking about what and why you should be using something. It’s just pretty obvious you need to plug in the previous concept learned. I say it’s great if you have no idea about sql. Currently I’m taking a sql zero to hero course on udemy which I like a lot better in terms of practicing because you use pgadmin and they don’t give you a template to fill in for the challenges. Using the actual programs is so helpful on figuring out how you’d be using sql in the real world. I would like to give the projects another go when I have a better grasp.
Hi J, I happened to see your comments, I just started data camp with SQL and face the same situation as you, is from zero to hero much helpful since you posted these comments 11 months ago? have you successfully landed a BA job yet? Best.
@@williamlu9335 Hi William! I have found that project based learning helps me best. I’m much more committed to learning the concepts when I have a reason to do so. I think one of the things the beginner courses help with a lot though is just letting you know that certain functions exist. I am currently working as an analyst and started in May of last year! I do not need to use SQL in depth and the basics do just fine for me. Good luck on your journey! :)
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Some of the R courses are guided by the writer of the package.
I started a month ago, got the annual subscription. I like the variety of topics they have, I feel like it's perfect for someone with no prior knowledge and just getting familiar with programming. I complement the theory with Coursera.
I got a yearly subscription at roughly 60 usd. I think the courses are pretty decent for self learner begginers and the certification and job offers are good perks for those living in USA, Canada and Europe.
Damn, that's a good point about the lack of IDE usage. I learnt SQL on a similar platform, Codecademy, and loved it, but then I tried opening up SQL server to start my own project and felt like a headless chicken
I'm glad i subscribed after i watched your video of Data Analyst vs Data Scientists. I knew you'd be reliable when it comes to being informed in this area. VERY helpful!
I prefer Udemy to manually select what I need to learn in via various courses, rather than taking 77 hours and not being sure if the content is what I need :)
Good call. I like Coursera's tracks though. The problem with DataCamp's tracks is that there's too much overlap between the courses - you can tell the courses were designed to be versatile (i.e., standalone or fit within this track or fit within that one) instead of flowing from course to course with new topics. The constant rehashing "just in case it wasnt covered for you already" gets incredibly time-consuming; one instructor doesn't know what the other course's instructor did or didnt cover.
The career track is just a measure of qualification AFAIK, + maybe some exam-like stuff at the end. Meaning you can take courses independently of the career track, and then at any point you can use the courses you've completed to finish off the career track and get a diploma.
@@AlexTheAnalyst I think it is better to get at least a beginners job and then you can begin to escalate from there...after taking the DataCamp courses
data camp is worth it ... though after you should work on big datasets with multivariable analysis to show you know awesome analysis also you should know the time is way longer when you get to harder material
Hi Alex, really appreciate all your content. I was wondering if you would be able to make a video about working on projects as a way of practicing and demonstrating your skill set as a data analyst? Cheers
Thanks for sharing I didn't know about this program. I work as a business analyst but I work extensively with excel but I need some technical skills with databases, sql, and python. I have LinkedIn learning right now for free.
Hi Alex! Just a quick question. I’m trying to switch my career and I felt in love with analytics about seven months ago and I’ve took the google data analytics course, I bought some books you recommend etc but my question is. How many years did you spent by studying all the courses before you apply for the job. I ask that not because I’m lazy but because I’m 35 already and sometimes I think is a bit late for me... thanks!
Thank you for the review. It does give a good overview. One con I found for me is that it doesn't have an offline feature. Hence you can't do any part of the courses unless you have constant internet connection.
$25 a month...billed annually, which is a lot up front. If you do monthly, it's $29. If you want the "tier" with the projects, that'll be $33 a month paid annually or $49 monthly . It's not a cheap service.
I'm enrolled in Penn's Data Analytics certificate and the curriculum is almost solely based around R, and then gets into machine learning. The course also clearly refers to data analysis and data science interchangeably and at one point also said they were the same thing (I know this isn't necessarily true). In this video you seem to be less interested in Data Camp's R modules - what's the reason for that? In your work have you found R is not as useful as, say, Python? Initially, I enrolled in the certificate to learn skills to become a data analyst, but now I'm wondering if I should readjust to a data scientist path. My big obstacle there is that I don't have a degree. What are your thoughts on this?
Hi there, the battle between R and Python essentially boils down to a preference. Both languages are open-source and widely available. Both languages are very powerful when it comes to data analysis and machine learning. However, it also depends whats your work environment. Most of the time, you will see people working in research and academia use R more often, but people working in the industry will tend to favor Python more as it is more user-friendly than R. Knowing both languages is a huge plus, but you can perfectly work in data analysis/ data science knowing R only. Most job descriptions ask you to know one or the other anyway. In the end, the choice of the language doesnt matter that much, it only matters that you master well the language you use.
Thanks for the review. I think it’s for me because I’m a total beginner, and will use it to supplement my learning while I take the BS Data Management Data Analytics program at WGU.
I'm here because of one of your "WHO IS THIS NOT FOR" criteria. (Im an absolute beginner in Data Analytics and am not sure what I need to learn) Any idea what bootcamps or Career Programs I can take online to get started? Im currently looking into the GOOGLE Data Analytics Program
Thanks for the review Alex. Beyond syntax it's a relief to simply start coding without dealing with machine setup. I've given up too many times just trying to set up my environment. Such a waste. This seems promising.
Corporate ethics might not matter to a whole lot of you but after the sexual harassment scandal in 2019, the R community and the instructors of R courses have actually distanced itself from Datacamp. I am more a fan of Dataquest since it is more project based.
Hey Alex, so I have a Master's in Data Analytics. Do you think Data camp is good for someone that needs brushing or wants to learn programs that I didn't learn in my program? For example, I didn't learn Power BI or R and my jobs requires alot of Power BI.
Great video! The most relevant aspect to me are the projects. Could you recommend another platform with end-to-end solved project? I need to start my BI machine learning portfolio... Thank you!
Great video! I have a question, which one would an employer look at the most, the data camp data analytics certificate or the goggle advanced data analytics certificate? Thank you and have a great day!
$25 a month is a lot different than having to slap down $300 for the year , at least for me. Can’t just pay for a few months and cancel. You left that part out. 😬 Right now doing Udemy do to budget restraints. Going into more cc debt isn’t super appealing. Would you say sticking with Udemy would be a better option? I’m working on the advanced level of a Udemy course but haven’t really done much with other Udemy courses. Thoughts? Personally leaning towards sticking with Udemy. Thanks
Question: What website would you recommend for someone with NO experience and no base knowledge? I am currently getting a degree in Cybersecurity and what to learn more in general.
What I hate about them 'data camp' is that they didn't updated the payment system for subscription in India The reserve Bank of India put out a mandate asking all international cos to update their payments system acc to indian standards but many didn't comply Now even if I want to i couldn't access to datacamp premium subscription
Can you make a video on the relevant/irrelevant topics you spoke about? I know you’ve mentioned python, sql, pandas, tableau in the past. What should someone new to the field be learning?
Thanks for the video Alex. I'm still deciding which website to use but this has given me more questions to ask. By the way, the tutorials and courses I've looked at only seem to cover the technical aspects of a data analyst role. Do you know of any websites/schools that cover presenting or reporting on your results? Or any other non-technical job functions? (The reason I'm asking is because I've had a few interviews for DA roles but some of the questions caught me off guard.)
Good morning, Alex. Are these projects able to show it in the resume when we are looking for an entry-level job? Also, what do you think Udacity? cause they offer much cheaper course compare to other Bootcamp. Have a wonderful day!
Yes you can as long as you put the finished project somewhere an interviewer or recruiter can put it. And I need to do more research on Udacity, but I will make a video on them in the future 👍
Hi, I completed the Data Analyst with Python course. My main concern is that do certifications expire as soon as you have completed them? And is it worthwhile to mention on my resume/linkedin?
Hi Alex, if someone wants to become a Data Analyst in the Healthcare field. Apart from his Bachelor Degree/ Master related to Data Analytics, what other certificates or skills he needs in order to get a chance as entry level for Data Analyst in the Healthcare sector?
I did data analytics with Google that had no python . And for the person who knows nothing about python. I think it's going to be perfect. What do u think?
Okay I am a beginner and I must be the only one who hates Data Camp. The videos are too fast. I can't follow. Then they make you do the query and with no example to reference unless you go back to video. I am so frustrated.
DataCamp is more so for people who have learned the basics through school or other courses and are motivated to learn more. They are not for teaching you everything. There is no way you can learn Machine Learning or actual Programming concepts from a 2-4 min video.
For advanced level, I basically think there is simply nothing you can learn online, there are piles of thick books with academic levels out there, why bother yourself with online unfiltered cheap infos?
Yes, you need to go to school and learn from an actual statistician/data scientist BUT datacamp is useful for applying that knowledge especially because most programs that go heavy on theory will spend very little time on programming/application.
Hey Alex, that was amazing review. Can you please make a video on comparison between datacamp and data quest based on projects and hands on experience ? Also which is more useful in terms of real world scenario.
Hi Alex! Great video! I would like to know what is your opinion about DataCamp´s Data Scientist Track. Do you believe that it is suitable to pursue a Data Science career?
No Data scientist career track is like data analyst not data science You can take ZTM complete data science and machine learning bootcamp if you want to work as data scientist
I used Datacamp for starting python than for webscraping learning scrapy intermediate python i hate datacamp because kaggle is god version of datacamp 2nd it wasted my time 3rd most imp it do not explain basic underlying theory or structures of a function.
You don't lose points by getting it wrong, just by asking for hints or giving up. That's actually quite clever and based gamification. Look for Mark Rober's talk on the Super Mario effect.
I think it's important to supplement Datacamp with other resources. Maybe some others like Coursera/Udemy for some high level theory. Like you said, it's great for learning syntax and for beginners who need a lot of spoon feeding. I am learning Python and SQL on this platform right now. After a a short video, we jump into these exercises with fill-in-the-blanks without knowing what server it is using, how to upload datasets into the server, and sometimes what the goal of a problem is. It takes you to a screen and you just starting filling in the blanks. It doesn't reflect real life. Datacamp is valuable for learning technical skills (and I really like their user interface), but I think newbies need additional resources.
Actually what you just described is perfect for newbies. They run everything inside their own Python IDE because of you are running your instance directly into your own kernel and make a mistake you could really damage your computer. In the real world, no company will let you work on a server without a certification because you have no idea the amount of damage you can do.
I am a beginner and completely agree with your comment. In fact, I am creating my own notes while taking each course and reference them when working on projects. DataCamp helps me understand the syntax, but it isn’t until I apply the concepts to a project that I feel that I’ve learned.
Agree with that. Additionally, these filling blanks become completely useless and in the end you find out you know nothing. In my opinion, studying should introduce a challenge, otherwise it becomes boring and unhelpful at all. This is basically the reason i quit datacamp. It is just completely unchallenging, no matter what experience you have.
That's what happens with the introductory courses. If you take the full track, preferably the Career tracks.. As you progress, you then go to setting up the environment.. And these then reconnects with your prior knowledge gained from the introductory courses. I find Datacamp a great place vis a vis Coursera. Coursera is great for learning the logic and concepts... Datacamp takes you directly to the practicals...
You mean import datasets?
my university just provided me with 6 months datacamp plan, i guess it's the best time to become data analyst lol
Which university?
@@maruf7956 right..which Uni?
Yeah which uni?
me too... my university give me free 6 months plan
do you know if that benefit can be used also with the github benefit?
I use datacamp for practice and coursera for theory.. I think both platforms are really useful.
Hey jhon it's there any course you recommend for theory (not introductory) in Coursera? Thanks
Hi Juan Pablo,
That depends on what do you want to learn. Are you trying to learn one tool at the time or maybe a certificate like a google or IBM one
Hi, l want to buy premium version in data camp, but l don't know after the buying, can l get free anything certificate?
Hi, yes you can get a free professional data analyst certificate or depends on the path that you want, you can use those certificates to show your work to your potential employer but most of all data camp will help you to build your own portfolio
Good point bro.
i've been using datacamp for a few years now to get into python/sql and learn data analytics and machine learning.
one thing i hate about it is the code exercises are only little snippets so its hard in real life to do something A-Z.
it also feels like you are just going through the motions of completing courses and not actually learning.
it's good to get a basic overview of stuff tho
Agreed. It was a good starting point for me but nothing more. And because it's so easy for someone to just run through it just to say they do (despite me making a concerted effort to dig deeper), it didn't give me much confidence that completion would be well-respected.
There's also way too much overlap in the different courses along a single track. You can tell, a bit too much, that the courses weren't collectively developed for the track you're on; instead, each course is designed to have their place in multiple tracks so a course will spend quite a bit of time going over things you learned already.
Good feedback! I can definitely see that especially if youre a bit more advanced. Do the projects help with the doing things A-Z?
@@michaelb9940 Hey, the exercises there r nt really gonna boost any confidence. What u can do is download their dataset(from the page of course syllabus page where they list out chapters) and use that dataset on ur local system and do a little play around.
@@vaibhavgautam4600 thanks for the pointers
The way I worked through it is I had the courses open along side the documentation. I would go back and forth and then go into my own code editor to explore the different options mentioned in the documentation to experiment and that’s where u really do the learning. If u run through the courses as quick as possible u won’t do learn deeply
Finished my Google Data Analytics recently, now jumping in for DataCamp Statistician with R. I love the interface and practice exercises so much more than how it was handled by Coursera. Screw multiple choice questions, they are useless.
Thank you for your comment. I was interested in R and the video didn't really said much about it.
I finished GDA then jumped to Data Scientist with R. So far so good. Enjoyable UI/UX.
"Screw multiple choice questions"
Looking at you, freecodecamp 👀
R is basically useless unless you are a Statistician. Most employers want SQL and Python.
@@cspan1993 statistical data is the one I mostly work with, yes. Not sure how it useless, it is specialized. And R tools are evolving, in addition to Shiny some previously Python-exclusive frameworks to develop web apps now support R as well. I guess there is a demand for it.
I use data camp and so far it's a major go from me
Very cool! What are some of the things you use the most on there? I thought the career track and projects looked really cool
@@AlexTheAnalyst im starting with SQL as you recommended, so I'm doing the SQL for data analysts track. I make sure to do each module twice and I have two left then I'll do projects.
I've gone from knowing 0 to being competent! Since I'll be starting my MSc Data Science in September, I will be doing python for data scientists next!
@@pana71 that’s awesome feedback - thank you for sharing!
Same for me! Really enjoying the Python stuff for data science.
I once paid just for one month, but it had a discount so I paid like 12 dollars only. Since I'm a beginner, I can say it definitely helped me getting familiar with the syntax (I was learning SQL back then). Now I'm watching your SQL videos which are really helpful!! Thanks
12 dollars isn’t bad at all! And that’s really cool! I’m glad my videos are helpful 😁
I really love how you gives us honest feedbacks on these platforms. Because of that, you just got one additional subscriber. Keep it up!
I have been using DataCamp for a while now and it's basically shaped my career. I owe this website a lot, plus I signed up for a year discount just $99 a WHOLE YEAR. this is insane.
That's awesome!
Really?? How? Mine is saying $400
@@DevinDomino they offer a range of discounts every now and then. it was on sale three weeks ago and I immediately snatched it!
I git at $149
Hi, so after 3 years, did it actually help you get a job or get better in the career?
I am halfway on the python programmer career track. I agree with some comments below that sometimes it feels that courses overlap themselves. The reason behind this might be that some of the courses belong to many career tracks, so they had to do them as broad as possible, to match other career tracks. The downside is that sometimes you feel a little confused, and not sure what is the direction of the course. However, I like that it encourages you to practice with the point reward system. I would prefer to include more references to real-world cases and more references to documentation.
Thanks for your review Alex! I'm a beginner at coding and have been completing courses from the Data Science for Everyone career track. I just wanted to add that I was using the free version of Data Camp and after a few days, I got offered a 62% discount code which was for a premium plan. It worked out to be cheaper than the standard plan (like $16 a month for a premium plan compared to $25 for a standard). I don't know if that would change many users mind, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
Love your content and keep it up!
Oh that's awesome! I really never saw any discounts on their platform so that's great to hear there are! Thank you for sharing!
Awesome review!! Really detailed breakdown :)
Thanks Tina! :D
I have took a one year subscription, I am pretty satisfied for my money.
However I think they should give more theoretical explanations on some some subjects like data science and machine learning.
Or at least provide some external links that may help to understand better or deeper the theory behind the code and the packages. It is very difficult to jump into the code without sufficient insights on what a method really is.
Interesting - good feedback
Agree
I like the R courses because they help you apply any theoretical knowledge you've learned about statistics in school like Machine Learning, etc. I like the Python courses because they're fun especially the guided projects. I've used the videos for my classes, it helps me go above and beyond what is expected from the professor.
To be clear, the $25 "monthly" fee is paid as an annual subscription, so you will actually be charged a one-time annual fee of $300. If you do choose to pay monthly, then the cost is steeper, at $39. Still a cool website, and I'm tempted, but that gives me a little more pause to consider; if I could pay $25 each month, I would probably do it immediately.
Just a quick add-on as well. If you are still a student I know for a fact they do have some student discounts, which essentially cuts the $25 a month to roughly $12 a month. I was able to get it last December as someone who was just starting but really interested in learning Data Science for Python. I worked really quickly through most of the course, but faced some burnout. I was unsure if I was actually absorbing the material, but luckily they have exams you can take, and I've seen improvement in my scores despite not always feeling super confident. As a newbie to the Data Analytics/Science world, I feel like it definitely has helped, but I've also been looking out for alternatives to learn more efficiently, and feel like I can do some of these things on my own. Also, Alex I listened you to on Ken Jee's podcast, and have loved the channel. Keep up the awesome work, it really helps to know that people like you are out there as I try to navigate learning more about analytics and how the field can be rewarding and useful!
Your channel has been immensely helpful for me figuring out where the hell to start! I am currently on Codecademy on the DA path as well as taking the SQL on the side. I am also learning through YOU and youtube videos. I started Datacamp, but I agree with alot of the commenters. Just code snippets and such. Codecademy actually has me doing off-platform work and learning how to migrate data through PostgreSQL. Anyway, thanks Alex!
I have subscribed for second year for Datacamp and actually got the "cheaper" deal with approx. 12,5$ per month. I think this is a steal, even if it's just for syntax learning. But after one year, I think the best part is really the interactivity for me. Few videos, and then exercise and from scratch, so you are building on top of already learned skills. As you've said, probably best for beginners, not for advanced people. For me, it's great and for some time it still will be.
Anyway, subscribed, because found this channel via LinkedIn recommendation and the quality of your work is great as well. Keep up
Being a beginner I liked getting the basics and found the lectures really good. In my experience with just about every sql course on data camp I took I was disappointed with the ability to practice recall. They basically give you a template to fill in the blanks which isn’t super helpful if you’re not thinking about what and why you should be using something. It’s just pretty obvious you need to plug in the previous concept learned. I say it’s great if you have no idea about sql. Currently I’m taking a sql zero to hero course on udemy which I like a lot better in terms of practicing because you use pgadmin and they don’t give you a template to fill in for the challenges. Using the actual programs is so helpful on figuring out how you’d be using sql in the real world.
I would like to give the projects another go when I have a better grasp.
Hi J, I happened to see your comments, I just started data camp with SQL and face the same situation as you, is from zero to hero much helpful since you posted these comments 11 months ago? have you successfully landed a BA job yet?
Best.
@@williamlu9335 Hi William! I have found that project based learning helps me best. I’m much more committed to learning the concepts when I have a reason to do so. I think one of the things the beginner courses help with a lot though is just letting you know that certain functions exist. I am
currently working as an analyst and started in May of last year! I do not need to use SQL in depth and the basics do just fine for me. Good luck on your journey! :)
Some of the R courses are guided by the writer of the package.
Well that's really cool - I didn't know that!
I started a month ago, got the annual subscription. I like the variety of topics they have, I feel like it's perfect for someone with no prior knowledge and just getting familiar with programming. I complement the theory with Coursera.
Which courses have you opted for in Coursera?
I got a yearly subscription at roughly 60 usd. I think the courses are pretty decent for self learner begginers and the certification and job offers are good perks for those living in USA, Canada and Europe.
So grateful for your content! I have just started looking at Data Analytics and was quite confused on which are the good ones!
So glad to hear it! Thanks for watching! :D
Damn, that's a good point about the lack of IDE usage. I learnt SQL on a similar platform, Codecademy, and loved it, but then I tried opening up SQL server to start my own project and felt like a headless chicken
I'm glad i subscribed after i watched your video of Data Analyst vs Data Scientists. I knew you'd be reliable when it comes to being informed in this area. VERY helpful!
Haha I’m glad you subscribed as well 😁 glad you find the content helpful!
Thanks Alex!! I got the promo of 1 year, but...they give you all the steps and make it too easy. I'm still looking for a project bases course
That’s really cool! I didn’t even see anything on their site about the 1 year promotion. Looks like a good deal! 😁
What kind of promo is this? 1 year free or discount?
I'd focus on DataCamp's Projects section if I were you
I prefer Udemy to manually select what I need to learn in via various courses, rather than taking 77 hours and not being sure if the content is what I need :)
Good call. I like Coursera's tracks though. The problem with DataCamp's tracks is that there's too much overlap between the courses - you can tell the courses were designed to be versatile (i.e., standalone or fit within this track or fit within that one) instead of flowing from course to course with new topics. The constant rehashing "just in case it wasnt covered for you already" gets incredibly time-consuming; one instructor doesn't know what the other course's instructor did or didnt cover.
Found Udemy to be low-quality budget courses with not much value!
@@michaelb9940 you should find the good courses by reading the reviews, not just taking them based on whatever they claim.
The career track is just a measure of qualification AFAIK, + maybe some exam-like stuff at the end. Meaning you can take courses independently of the career track, and then at any point you can use the courses you've completed to finish off the career track and get a diploma.
What's the best way to show employers that you know SQL?
Put it on your resume
andrew ng, sentdex,jermy howard,mit course that's it you can do all most everthing with that
as a current college student, do you think that getting a certficate from datacamp and putting it on my resume for an internship a good idea?
I think it may help with an internship and maybe an entry level job, but I don't think it would be helpful after that.
@@AlexTheAnalyst I think it is better to get at least a beginners job and then you can begin to escalate from there...after taking the DataCamp courses
Recruiters look more for the job experience.
Love your vids, will you be doing a similar review for DataQuest?
I will! They’re compared to each other quite often 👍
10:16 where it starts with feedback
data camp is worth it ... though after you should work on big datasets with multivariable analysis to show you know awesome analysis
also you should know the time is way longer when you get to harder material
Hi Alex, really appreciate all your content. I was wondering if you would be able to make a video about working on projects as a way of practicing and demonstrating your skill set as a data analyst? Cheers
I absolutely plan on doing that, but have a few videos to do before I get to those 👍
@@AlexTheAnalyst Wicked, I look forward to it!
great was going to ask as well
I need this too.. thanks for sharing Alex.
Thanks for sharing I didn't know about this program. I work as a business analyst but I work extensively with excel but I need some technical skills with databases, sql, and python. I have LinkedIn learning right now for free.
That's awesome!
have you taken courses on linkedin learning for databases, sql and python? Do you feel it is worth it to learn those?
Coding with Mosh is awesome!!!
For me, definitely worth it
Hi Alex! Just a quick question. I’m trying to switch my career and I felt in love with analytics about seven months ago and I’ve took the google data analytics course, I bought some books you recommend etc but my question is. How many years did you spent by studying all the courses before you apply for the job. I ask that not because I’m lazy but because I’m 35 already and sometimes I think is a bit late for me... thanks!
Never it's too late!
I hope you are doing good
Thanks, Alex for providing a detailed review of Data Camp.👍
Absolutely! Thanks for watching! 😁
Thank you for the review. It does give a good overview.
One con I found for me is that it doesn't have an offline feature. Hence you can't do any part of the courses unless you have constant internet connection.
Awesome, keep up the great work! :)
Will do! 😁
Hi Alex, was wondering from coursera certificate which one do you think is best the google one or the IBM?
Releasing a video on this on Tuesday!
I would love to see a Codecademy review, I like their platform.
I plan on doing one!
Why are python fanboys such snobs? R was was built for data science. Anyway, I’ll go watch somebody else’s channel now
Python is horrible for data science, tbh R is much better.
$25 a month...billed annually, which is a lot up front. If you do monthly, it's $29. If you want the "tier" with the projects, that'll be $33 a month paid annually or $49 monthly . It's not a cheap service.
it;s like $150 if you get it on discount
I'm enrolled in Penn's Data Analytics certificate and the curriculum is almost solely based around R, and then gets into machine learning. The course also clearly refers to data analysis and data science interchangeably and at one point also said they were the same thing (I know this isn't necessarily true). In this video you seem to be less interested in Data Camp's R modules - what's the reason for that? In your work have you found R is not as useful as, say, Python?
Initially, I enrolled in the certificate to learn skills to become a data analyst, but now I'm wondering if I should readjust to a data scientist path. My big obstacle there is that I don't have a degree. What are your thoughts on this?
Hi there, the battle between R and Python essentially boils down to a preference. Both languages are open-source and widely available. Both languages are very powerful when it comes to data analysis and machine learning. However, it also depends whats your work environment. Most of the time, you will see people working in research and academia use R more often, but people working in the industry will tend to favor Python more as it is more user-friendly than R. Knowing both languages is a huge plus, but you can perfectly work in data analysis/ data science knowing R only. Most job descriptions ask you to know one or the other anyway. In the end, the choice of the language doesnt matter that much, it only matters that you master well the language you use.
Thanks for the review. I think it’s for me because I’m a total beginner, and will use it to supplement my learning while I take the BS Data Management Data Analytics program at WGU.
Indeed me too.
Great video Alex!
Thank you and thanks for watching! 😁
I'm here because of one of your "WHO IS THIS NOT FOR" criteria. (Im an absolute beginner in Data Analytics and am not sure what I need to learn) Any idea what bootcamps or Career Programs I can take online to get started? Im currently looking into the GOOGLE Data Analytics Program
DataCamp reminds me so much of CodeCademy.
Thanks for the review Alex. Beyond syntax it's a relief to simply start coding without dealing with machine setup. I've given up too many times just trying to set up my environment. Such a waste. This seems promising.
Awesome Review Sir👍👍
Thank you and thanks for watching! 😁
Appreciate your great review and deep insight!
hello guys if you're in University you can get it free for 3 monthsss
how is that possible?
Corporate ethics might not matter to a whole lot of you but after the sexual harassment scandal in 2019, the R community and the instructors of R courses have actually distanced itself from Datacamp.
I am more a fan of Dataquest since it is more project based.
Oh very interesting. I had not heard about that before. I need to look at that!
@@AlexTheAnalyst Really? Wow
Cry me a MeToo river. The guy doesn't even work for them anymore.
Nice content with great details. Thanks!
You're most welcome! Thanks for watching! :D
Hey Alex, so I have a Master's in Data Analytics. Do you think Data camp is good for someone that needs brushing or wants to learn programs that I didn't learn in my program? For example, I didn't learn Power BI or R and my jobs requires alot of Power BI.
Yeah it's definitely not bad - worth checking out - they do have some promotionals usually where you can try it free for a bit
Great video! The most relevant aspect to me are the projects. Could you recommend another platform with end-to-end solved project? I need to start my BI machine learning portfolio... Thank you!
fair review from a fair unbiased analyst :D
Great video! I have a question, which one would an employer look at the most, the data camp data analytics certificate or the goggle advanced data analytics certificate? Thank you and have a great day!
Thanks Alex for the summary of data camp.
Hey Alex, great review. Any advice on 365 Data science platform?
Udemy vs Data Camp.
Data Quest is dry, boring, laggy, & slow.
Bro,which to take as beginner data camp or Google data analytics certificate?
Both, I mean, practice theory in Coursera and exercises in DataCamp (PowerBI, SQL)
$25 a month is a lot different than having to slap down $300 for the year , at least for me. Can’t just pay for a few months and cancel. You left that part out. 😬
Right now doing Udemy do to budget restraints. Going into more cc debt isn’t super appealing.
Would you say sticking with Udemy would be a better option? I’m working on the advanced level of a Udemy course but haven’t really done much with other Udemy courses.
Thoughts?
Personally leaning towards sticking with Udemy.
Thanks
Very useful, thanks for video!
Question: What website would you recommend for someone with NO experience and no base knowledge? I am currently getting a degree in Cybersecurity and what to learn more in general.
What I hate about them 'data camp' is that they didn't updated the payment system for subscription in India
The reserve Bank of India put out a mandate asking all international cos to update their payments system acc to indian standards but many didn't comply
Now even if I want to i couldn't access to datacamp premium subscription
Can you make a video on the relevant/irrelevant topics you spoke about? I know you’ve mentioned python, sql, pandas, tableau in the past. What should someone new to the field be learning?
That’s a really good idea for a video! I’ll definitely do some research on this one 👍
@@AlexTheAnalyst id appreciate it love the content.
Which e-learning platform do you recommend for learning more advanced topics related to data science? Is plitalsight a good one?
I have a big issue with creating a project for portfolio with very little knowledge
Thanks for the video Alex. I'm still deciding which website to use but this has given me more questions to ask. By the way, the tutorials and courses I've looked at only seem to cover the technical aspects of a data analyst role. Do you know of any websites/schools that cover presenting or reporting on your results? Or any other non-technical job functions?
(The reason I'm asking is because I've had a few interviews for DA roles but some of the questions caught me off guard.)
Hi Alex, can we easily cancel subscription and only pay for one month subscription if using DataCamp?
Yeah, you can definitely just do one month
Pros and cons 10:13
Good morning, Alex.
Are these projects able to show it in the resume when we are looking for an entry-level job?
Also, what do you think Udacity? cause they offer much cheaper course compare to other Bootcamp.
Have a wonderful day!
Yes you can as long as you put the finished project somewhere an interviewer or recruiter can put it. And I need to do more research on Udacity, but I will make a video on them in the future 👍
@@AlexTheAnalyst thank you so much for the valuable reply.
Hi, I completed the Data Analyst with Python course. My main concern is that do certifications expire as soon as you have completed them? And is it worthwhile to mention on my resume/linkedin?
which platform would you suggest for advanced users to learn some advanced algorithms and efficient methods to solve any problem? thanks!
Hi Alex, if someone wants to become a Data Analyst in the Healthcare field. Apart from his Bachelor Degree/ Master related to Data Analytics, what other certificates or skills he needs in order to get a chance as entry level for Data Analyst in the Healthcare sector?
A good resume and a good portfolio are both really great things to have.
hi there, a quick question: so how many courses can you take until you are ask to have subscription? thanks..
Thanks for the info on these courses. I was wondering if you can also review the “Job Ready Programmer” course by Imtiaz
I did data analytics with Google that had no python . And for the person who knows nothing about python. I think it's going to be perfect.
What do u think?
Suppose one wants to do data analyst with python & one has zero knowledge in noth data science & Python programming, is this a good place to start?
What do you think is the best option to learn python from beginner to pro?
it's worth it, unless u have an agenda to put it down
Billed Annually. You can’t try it out for a few months. Unless they have unconditional money back
Hi, if I only subscribe DataCamp for one month, and then cancel subscription for the following month, is that possible?
Okay I am a beginner and I must be the only one who hates Data Camp. The videos are too fast. I can't follow. Then they make you do the query and with no example to reference unless you go back to video. I am so frustrated.
DataCamp is more so for people who have learned the basics through school or other courses and are motivated to learn more. They are not for teaching you everything. There is no way you can learn Machine Learning or actual Programming concepts from a 2-4 min video.
Now it's showing for just $5.75/month is it worth it?
absolutely
Hello, I am a 4th year student of Statistics. I have enrolled for Google Data Analytics on Coursera. Is it good?
For advanced level, I basically think there is simply nothing you can learn online, there are piles of thick books with academic levels out there, why bother yourself with online unfiltered cheap infos?
Yes, you need to go to school and learn from an actual statistician/data scientist BUT datacamp is useful for applying that knowledge especially because most programs that go heavy on theory will spend very little time on programming/application.
Hey Alex, that was amazing review. Can you please make a video on comparison between datacamp and data quest based on projects and hands on experience ? Also which is more useful in terms of real world scenario.
I believe I will do that!
My men, i got a sell off of 60USD/year. 100% recommended
Today, May 2022, the Premium subscription for individual is $12.42, billed annually
100% worth it.
What do you think about codecademy, have you try it?
I have tried it and I will be doing a review on it one of these days! I think it's pretty good!
Is this a good platform to use for beginners? [No coding background]
Hi Alex! Great video! I would like to know what is your opinion about DataCamp´s Data Scientist Track. Do you believe that it is suitable to pursue a Data Science career?
No
Data scientist career track is like data analyst not data science
You can take ZTM complete data science and machine learning bootcamp if you want to work as data scientist
Today, Dec 2022, the Premium subscription for individual is $59(5$ / month) billed annually It worst for me although I bought for learning SQL back =)
Is full course free of cost?? Is it possible to get certificate after course without any charge??
I used Datacamp for starting python than for webscraping learning scrapy intermediate python i hate datacamp because kaggle is god version of datacamp 2nd it wasted my time 3rd most imp it do not explain basic underlying theory or structures of a function.