LIV Golf vs. the PGA - The Controversial Divide Over the Future of Golf

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  • Опубликовано: 11 янв 2023
  • Taken from JRE #1924 w/Andrew Santino:
    open.spotify.com/episode/1ub1...

Комментарии • 1,9 тыс.

  • @natemarx4999
    @natemarx4999 Год назад +791

    Saudi Arabia also invest in Uber and women’s golf, and also sponsors the PGA. The PGA certainly has no problem taking money from them.

    • @poundtownpooppusher4809
      @poundtownpooppusher4809 Год назад +21

      It reminds me of the super league in football uefa enjoyed not having any competition so they created a giant media/outrage storm that the Europeans took hook line and sinker and now they get to go back to watching 11 ties every Saturday and the same 3-4 teams winning every year

    • @eugenecrawley4897
      @eugenecrawley4897 Год назад +7

      Have you seen
      Elon Musk meets Post Malone
      😆 I can’t believe what Elon says!👽

    • @snoopyontheground3481
      @snoopyontheground3481 Год назад +22

      Saudi Arabia invests in F1

    • @timturk1899
      @timturk1899 Год назад +3

      @@snoopyontheground3481 I bet! Totally makes sense.👍💯

    • @adnan4688
      @adnan4688 Год назад

      @@poundtownpooppusher4809 Biggest football mafia in the world = UEFA. Corrupted on every level.

  • @andytlwy
    @andytlwy Год назад +387

    One of these days Joe will crack and get hooked on golf with Jamie

    • @markbrouk7857
      @markbrouk7857 Год назад +30

      It's only a matter of time. If he loves pool he will love golf, it's inevitable.

    • @kindnesscartel3457
      @kindnesscartel3457 Год назад +6

      He is to jacked to swing. Maybe he can work out a Bubba swing, maybe...

    • @natemarx4999
      @natemarx4999 Год назад +1

      He will hold while on shrooms 🍄 ⛳️

    • @bloatedsodium7301
      @bloatedsodium7301 Год назад +3

      @@kindnesscartel3457 Bryson has entered the chat.

    • @GA_Thrawn
      @GA_Thrawn Год назад +1

      That's when the podcast is done for.

  • @diegoyoung2952
    @diegoyoung2952 Год назад +26

    Thank you for talking about this subject! I love it and I have been keeping track for awhile, I think these guys need to make as much as they can! Golf is hard!

  • @andrewperri2838
    @andrewperri2838 Год назад +295

    Pat Mcafee explained this perfectly. Literally every sponsor on the pga tour has a percentage ownership from Saudi money. It’s ridiculous. The PGA tour only started increasing payouts when their top talent left

    • @YungNoDussy
      @YungNoDussy Год назад +11

      Whhhhhaddd?

    • @ElPinch3Luis
      @ElPinch3Luis Год назад +4

      @@YungNoDussy we got a bud light deal whaddddd!!!! 😂

    • @redsoxguy22
      @redsoxguy22 Год назад +4

      Whaaaaadddd

    • @t24mack
      @t24mack Год назад +14

      Top talent?? The top talent most certainly didn’t leave

    • @JBeezy003
      @JBeezy003 Год назад +4

      WHADD

  • @immortalhahn
    @immortalhahn Год назад +201

    The PGA is pissed off because of the competition. But now they making it about human rights. When you go against the establishment then suddenly there's alot of issues. The more competition the better. And the golfers are happy to jump ship because it's more money in their pockets.

    • @NotKimiRaikkonen
      @NotKimiRaikkonen Год назад +17

      Exactly. They're like the media pissed off cause they finally have to compete with the internet after holding a monopoly for 100 years...

    • @kevinmalone3532
      @kevinmalone3532 Год назад +3

      Look up
      “Joe Rogan asks Elon Musk HARD Questions about Cobalt Mining for TESLA Batteries!”
      thank me later 🙏

    • @michaelwatson7060
      @michaelwatson7060 Год назад +3

      Have you seen
      Elon Musk meets Post Malone
      😆 I can’t believe what Elon says!👽

    • @steohara6353
      @steohara6353 Год назад +2

      It's not even competition though. Their are so few tournaments in it that the players are looking to be allowed play pga events

    • @blujay9191
      @blujay9191 Год назад +4

      I keep hearing about competition but rather than some kind of free market scenario I'm more reminded of the situation back in the 80s when government subsidized steel companies dumped their product into the market at less than the production cost knowing that the existing companies couldn't compete.

  • @whurdoondees
    @whurdoondees Год назад +9

    "good to see ya Phil" had me breaking 😂

  • @Beenjammin37
    @Beenjammin37 Год назад +19

    Love hearing Joe get amazed by the WM Phoenix Open. Golf is evolving !

  • @harmonie333
    @harmonie333 Год назад +9

    “American jeans Rogan“ the way he said it these are American jeans 😂😂

  • @peacefromwar7564
    @peacefromwar7564 Год назад +34

    half way through and I'm like.. Damn Jamie earning that pay for this episode.

    • @raoiii8352
      @raoiii8352 Год назад

      Lol when I was listening last night I thought the same thing like damn dude they’re really making him work for it today 😂

    • @JimNortonsAlcoholism
      @JimNortonsAlcoholism Год назад

      Santino owes Jamie a good whiskey

  • @whiteboxextracts5478
    @whiteboxextracts5478 Год назад +233

    I so hope Joe gets hooked on golf, the thought of Joey, Bert, Tom and Joe podcasting while hacking up some famous courses is pure gold to my mind.

    • @aaronromo6790
      @aaronromo6790 Год назад +2

      Joey Diaz?

    • @salveteinfernum
      @salveteinfernum Год назад

      Listen cocksuka, it's a par 4, you wanna use your fuckin 9iron NOT THE FUCKIN WEDGE FUCKO

    • @chadgrov
      @chadgrov Год назад +17

      @@aaronromo6790Imagine trying to get Joey on a golf course on a Sunday 😂

    • @82PeRK
      @82PeRK Год назад +2

      Ummm.
      NO

    • @BeastMode-xl7rz
      @BeastMode-xl7rz Год назад +5

      Joe is not built for golf…he will be a huge slicer

  • @dustinengstrom386
    @dustinengstrom386 Год назад +7

    16 usually holds 15-16k fans per day. Only a small part is “come and go” the open seats. Everything under a canopy you have to have a pass to get into and it’s expensive. The entire tournament hosts an absurd number of people, I believe around 3/4 million lol. It’s insane

  • @Celticlad2001
    @Celticlad2001 Год назад +75

    When Andrew started to even utter the word monopoly Joe quickly moved to Khassogi 😂

    • @muximus2771
      @muximus2771 Год назад +3

      Cheeto is right on this one.

    • @johnerichsen2708
      @johnerichsen2708 Год назад +5

      Where was the outrage and criticism of Saudi money in golf, when the Saudi International started on the European Tour, the year following the Khashoggi murder. The PGA Tour has given players releases to that event, each year since 2019, including this year.

    • @rustyspigot1876
      @rustyspigot1876 Год назад

      Where is Peng Shuai? China owns UFC! She was the tennis player that disappeared after grape allegations against high level CCP member. Should I stop watching UFC? Joe? Anyone?

    • @chrisgullett4332
      @chrisgullett4332 Год назад

      Hard to take anybody seriously that uses terms like 'it's old white guy BS'. Even the fact that he defends Saudi money and slaves in China making phones. Andrew is a complete goof.

    • @daddylister
      @daddylister Год назад

      He,s american, what did you expect?

  • @BasedHadrian
    @BasedHadrian Год назад +4

    Oh man something I finally specialize in and know all about..I’m excited to hear this

  • @TakashiAmanoOriginal
    @TakashiAmanoOriginal Год назад +91

    The future of golf is something I’m always thinking about

  • @alexbh
    @alexbh Год назад +13

    Anyone here after PGA-LIV merger?

  • @ejr7733
    @ejr7733 Год назад +6

    With the Netflix special that just came out from the Drive to Survive guys I really hope golf blows up in popularity like F1 did, it’s such a great sport and there’s so much drama and entertainment once you get into it. LIV golf is also adding a whole other layer, really entertaining stuff to watch.

  • @dalerab123
    @dalerab123 Год назад +23

    Having meetings on the golf course gives you a level of intimacy with your counter that few locations can. My dad always said that if you can't close a deal by the 12th hole, find a new job.

  • @stkyfngrszmooth
    @stkyfngrszmooth Год назад +69

    This happened a while back in the sport I used to compete in. The organization here in the US was geared more towards a bigger payout to the athletes who finished better whereas other organizations from different countries would pay you an appearance fee just for showing up plus a healthy kick towards the guys who finished better. Typically after being on the circuit for a couple years guys would figure out where their average placings would be and instead made a living just from invitational events. Plus it kept you in the sport longer because injuries would be greatly lessened.

    • @wonderblast953
      @wonderblast953 Год назад +1

      How are injuries decreased when you remain in the sport longer?

    • @FrankYammy
      @FrankYammy Год назад +6

      You could have explained this better

    • @FrankYammy
      @FrankYammy Год назад +4

      @@wonderblast953You can stay in the sport longer bc of less injuries bc you’re not exerting yourself as much

    • @stkyfngrszmooth
      @stkyfngrszmooth Год назад +5

      @@FrankYammy Why don't you clean it up for me and post what you think sounds better. If I like it I'll delete mine.

    • @ricebuckets
      @ricebuckets Год назад +1

      @@wonderblast953 you play in fewer events a year so you can play for more years

  • @MrKneri22
    @MrKneri22 Год назад +3

    I worked at TPC Scottsdale for years as an assistant super and in 2018, and 19 we set the outdoors attendance record over 225k, there's way more than 5k people @ #16. It's easily 12,000, it's literally built like a small ball park there are decks and levels and stands around the green.

  • @yolkiandeji7649
    @yolkiandeji7649 Год назад +69

    Love it when Santino is on the podcast

  • @quinniebones
    @quinniebones Год назад +8

    8:00 as someone who plays golf in my industry/company as a more junior employee, 100% getting more opportunities on the golf course with clients and management than any meeting.

    • @WhereDoesThetimmmmeGO
      @WhereDoesThetimmmmeGO Год назад +4

      Its a great way to test your possible client.. If you're willing to cheat in golf, you're willing to cheat in business. Its a great quick way to see how any person acts or operates in 3-4 hour time span

    • @pjpredhomme7699
      @pjpredhomme7699 Год назад +1

      @@WhereDoesThetimmmmeGO very true

  • @manifestgtr
    @manifestgtr Год назад

    1:00 LOL
    That was such a great interaction, complete with the “whoa…”

  • @ciro9251
    @ciro9251 Год назад +1

    Went to LIV in Bedminster during the summer, so much fun

  • @seanwallace89
    @seanwallace89 Год назад +6

    I'm an avid golfer, and have followed the sport since Tiger Woods' prime era... to say that I am not fond and appreciate of the PGA Tour would be dishonest. However, I've yet to get a sufficient answer from those who oppose and/or dislike the LIV Tour, to my question of "Why should the PGA Tour be permitted to maintain a monopoly on professional golf, and going so far as to use their significant influence to deter sponsorships, access to Official World Golf Rankings, as well as LIV Tour players access to non-PGA Tour affiliated and hosted events, and specifically the Major tournaments like The Masters, US Open, The Open, Etc. ???
    Name another professional golf league that is not a partner league, direct affiliate, or a financial subsidiary of the PGA and/or PGA Tour OTHER than the LIV Tour?
    I'll wait...

  • @celticsrule534
    @celticsrule534 Год назад +8

    Joe unironically asking for a snopes fact check is a tragedy.

  • @keenanlarsen1639
    @keenanlarsen1639 Год назад +17

    I met a kid back in summer camp who was learning golf explicitly for the purpose of helping his future career in business.

    • @oscarinacan
      @oscarinacan Год назад +5

      Business people have end mindset that the better you are at golf, the better you are at business because you can afford to take time off and play.

    • @zerosn1nz
      @zerosn1nz Год назад

      WOMP womp

  • @coreymoore01
    @coreymoore01 Год назад +5

    The golf and business thing is big - you ALMOST have to play the game, if you want to make it in the finance relationship based business world. Getting 4-5 hours of someone’s time is invaluable… and you can learn A LOT about someone when you play a round of golf with them. In many ways.. it’s also just a good hang.

  • @rosswhitton8463
    @rosswhitton8463 Год назад +20

    I can def see joe getting hooked on golf

    • @EraserTraceur
      @EraserTraceur Год назад

      Doing blow in the bathroom before and little snorty snorts on the back thumb slat slat u know fam?

  • @jacobcooper7064
    @jacobcooper7064 Год назад +23

    Cam Smith is by far the best player that left to go to LIV

    • @kylemorse346
      @kylemorse346 Год назад +4

      I wish this guy gave a better explanation when Joe asked what talent is going over there.. he said Phil Mickelson and he should have told Joe that some of the top ranked golfers in the world right now are going over there, and they’re doing it because they make almost double the money, play 1 less day than a PGA competition, and the payouts for every spot are a lot more than to a PGA payout for where you place.. the PGA has so much money and don’t wanna pay their golfers what they should get so they left to make more money and now the PGA is mad about it cause they feel like they’re entitled..

    • @SaturdaySoundOffsTV
      @SaturdaySoundOffsTV Год назад

      @@kylemorse346 PGA doesn't have as much money as the Saudis. Most corporations and orgs get by on the skin of their teeth from a profit margin perspective, more so than people realize (sure an exec might make a low-8-digit income, but if you took that and spread it around to all their employees it wouldn't be noticeable). They can't compete with a petrostate writing blank checks.

  • @kellenmuller6790
    @kellenmuller6790 Год назад

    the crossover I needed

  • @edotball
    @edotball Год назад

    A new santino jre episode great success

  • @lax3man3
    @lax3man3 Год назад +18

    Need more golf talk from joe

  • @Ktb8724
    @Ktb8724 Год назад +2

    The waste management tour is one of the most attended sporting events in the world. There's over 215,000 in attendance on Saturday of Phoenix open.

  • @naylorbroughton1159
    @naylorbroughton1159 Год назад

    When I was at IBM, I missed out on info and deals because I DIDNT play golf

  • @Powder148
    @Powder148 Год назад +27

    is LIV making a difference? Well Joe Rogan is talking about it so I would say yes

    • @alvinfew8711
      @alvinfew8711 Год назад +3

      Exactly. Joe doesn't talk about sports much other than MMA so the fact that he's discussing it means it's making waves.

  • @addisonfrance
    @addisonfrance Год назад +10

    The Zion analogy had me crying 😂

  • @knkini0959
    @knkini0959 Год назад

    I can't find this full episode on Spotify

  • @tdc8795
    @tdc8795 Год назад +1

    LIV Golf players are paid an undisclosed signing fee along with additional prize money depending on their rank in the tournaments. As per reports, the contract Phil Mickelson signed with LIV Golf is to be worth $200 million. Dustin Johnson reportedly agreed to a fee of $150 million and Bryson DeChambeau fetched $100 million.

  • @DREWSLENS
    @DREWSLENS Год назад +3

    LIV Golf is the future of golf 🙌 All of a sudden the PGA wants to pay their guys. See ya!

  • @andrewcoey4954
    @andrewcoey4954 Год назад +4

    Someone needs to show Joe the Ryder cup

  • @MBustos828
    @MBustos828 Год назад

    I live near the TPC Scottsdale where the WM Open is. They start getting it prepped MONTHS in advance

  • @thedudeswhodoo
    @thedudeswhodoo Год назад

    01:02 LMAO “woah..”

  • @williamnienstedt2337
    @williamnienstedt2337 Год назад +38

    I went to the same Chicago LIV event as Andrew and he’s spot on. It’s a cool atmosphere but everything seems forced and like they’re trying too hard to appeal to millennials. I’m a golf nerd so I prefer PGA tour events but I do see the benefits from the competition that the LIV tour has had on the winning purses for the PGA tour

    • @AB-qt4dj
      @AB-qt4dj Год назад +7

      The golf nerds will always be there, and they’re pretty small in number and it doesn’t grow decade over decade. At least LIV is trying to grow and appeal to new golf fans.

    • @finalfrontier001
      @finalfrontier001 Год назад +2

      72 hole golf is dying sport, 54 hole is faster quicker and much more watchable in shog gun start.

    • @adamseidel9780
      @adamseidel9780 Год назад +2

      Given the changes the PGA Tour is made I don’t see how LIV is remotely sustainable… but it’s a win for us as golf fans (and for the mini tour qualifier golfers in particular) that the LIV forced so many changes from the PGA. Competition is good.

    • @pjpredhomme7699
      @pjpredhomme7699 Год назад

      ​@@adamseidel9780 its not - it is a significant disruptor - to be honest - nearly all of the early defectors - were all complete pains in the ass - and the tour is happy to have them gone . That was up until Dustin Johnson, Cam Smith those are really the only meaningful losses - the Koepka , Dechambeau, Reed - and the like - if the truth were known - I think the tour would have been happy to pay for them to go

    • @adamseidel9780
      @adamseidel9780 Год назад +2

      @@pjpredhomme7699 There is no way the PGA wanted to see a name like Bryson, who was driving big attention, leave. Same goes for Koepka, despite his prickliness.
      Reed... I'll give you that one, nobody was sad to see him gone.

  • @chrisfox2211
    @chrisfox2211 Год назад +38

    I love “what about ism”
    If a hedge fund was behind the LIV tour it would be a mass exodus and the only people upset would be the PGA Tour
    And lastly.... Augusta works independently from the PGA tour. This is why LIV players have been invited to The Masters this year.

    • @1247.cccccc
      @1247.cccccc Год назад +6

      I have noticed Kashoggi's entire career has been distilled down to 'Washington Post journalist' and those same people are okay with Julian Assange being an enemy of the state.

    • @gregorypalmer4909
      @gregorypalmer4909 Год назад

      Yeah, because a hedge fund is exactly the same as a terrorist government lol

    • @chrisfox2211
      @chrisfox2211 Год назад +3

      @@gregorypalmer4909 That's my point. They brought up a hedge fund and the guy acts like people would still be upset. The dude was wrong over and over again.

  • @njosephg
    @njosephg Год назад +2

    Bring on the competition baby. Love LIV for that. I’ll keep watching both.

  • @kieferclarkf1674
    @kieferclarkf1674 Год назад

    1:03 Joe's whoa is hilarious.

  • @shanedevero7105
    @shanedevero7105 Год назад

    Can confirm. 16th hole WM Tour is nuts

  • @aubreyk1487
    @aubreyk1487 Год назад +15

    Been waiting for Santino to be back on

  • @scottyhayden8
    @scottyhayden8 Год назад +3

    " go to snopes"
    🤣

  • @adamcallaghan2135
    @adamcallaghan2135 Год назад

    Love Santino!

  • @kevinVersus
    @kevinVersus Год назад

    I had a feeling the darts 9 darters would come up, and sure enough hahag

  • @MrChannelnamehere
    @MrChannelnamehere Год назад +86

    The shotgun start format that LIV uses is actually pretty fun to watch and a nice change of pace. There's always something going on and you don't have to wait several hours for your favorite players to tee off. The events themselves actually look pretty laid back and fun to attend. I would check one out if it were hosted nearby. That being said, LIV is primarily comprised of younger players that haven't made it onto the PGA Tour yet and older pros pushing 40 that are past their prime like DJ and Brooks.
    DJ and Brooks are still certainly capable of winning a major, but far less likely than 10 years ago. Cam Smith is probably the only LIV player that's top 10 level and currently in his prime. I'd say ~90-95% of LIV players are comparable to Korn Ferry Tour players in quality which is still really good, but not quite top tier PGA Tour level. Phil is more of an ambassador now then a real threat on the golf course due to being 52 years old and being way past his prime. He'd have trouble placing in Korn Ferry Tour events now.

    • @gregorypalmer4909
      @gregorypalmer4909 Год назад +17

      The shotgun start ruins, all drama and suspense on Sunday lol it’s one of the dumbest ideas they have

    • @BigSnipp
      @BigSnipp Год назад

      You're supporting a dictatorship, congrats.

    • @jim-ce5kt
      @jim-ce5kt Год назад +3

      Shotgun starts speeding up the game and that is good for EVERYONE! Players and viewers.

    • @tangoalpha9955
      @tangoalpha9955 Год назад +1

      @@gregorypalmer4909 Only time it is bad is if someone who is a few shots back, designed to finish on the 2nd or 3rd hole and has an amazing day, competing for the title while the last group (leaders) finishes on 18, potentially out of the race. You seem to watch a lot of LIV to be so vehemently against it. Btw what I just described has not happened once, yet.

    • @mathewreed818
      @mathewreed818 Год назад +1

      Bryson, Joaquin and Matthew Wolff are young guns in or close to their prime. Yes, lots of washed players and young no names, but there’s more than Cam.

  • @yoBigWave
    @yoBigWave Год назад +5

    Cheeseburger was great! Glad to see him making his rounds

  • @tfsprint100
    @tfsprint100 Год назад

    I’ll be at the Skybox on the 16th hole that week!

  • @joesdailybeat
    @joesdailybeat Год назад

    I'm releasing a book about my days as a golf caddie. Let's tee it up and have some fun when it's released Santino.

  • @KeepingItGeekly
    @KeepingItGeekly Год назад +3

    Guest starts talking
    Joe - 💨💨💨💨💨💨💨

  • @danimaltheanimal570
    @danimaltheanimal570 Год назад +13

    This is what the Portnoy interview should’ve been

  • @Cupn00do1
    @Cupn00do1 Год назад

    Joe you should start golf with putting and short game. With your pool ability you'll pick up the scoring part of the game much faster.

  • @austinbarber8022
    @austinbarber8022 Год назад

    what i find so funny being both an avid golfer and fisherman the same thing happened in the fishing industry a few years back. and never made this much wave.

  • @alwaysrecycles365
    @alwaysrecycles365 Год назад +13

    I think learning to golf is less important in business world than it was in the past, but you want to be ready to accept an invitation to golf bc it does create a great opportunity to talk casually and build familiarity

    • @andyjcoop
      @andyjcoop Год назад

      I have told my wife to execute me on site in the most brutal way if she ever catches me playing golf.

    • @nightfighter7452
      @nightfighter7452 Год назад

      Can't we just get food instead? Stop wasting my time

    • @kirkworthley3221
      @kirkworthley3221 Год назад

      Agree 100%. I'm sure some deals still get done on the course and golf is great way to get a client alone for 4 hours. However, most high producers don't have that kind of time to spend. Business moves 10x faster these days.

    • @1247.cccccc
      @1247.cccccc Год назад

      @@kirkworthley3221 LOL, (10X) is so Samuel Bank-Fried. He didn't golf either.

    • @alwaysrecycles365
      @alwaysrecycles365 Год назад +1

      @@nightfighter7452 that may work for you. For me, I golf about 4 times a year, it's all paid for, and I figure if I don't go my competition will. Not to mention on a nice day it beats sitting inside.

  • @familychiken
    @familychiken Год назад +3

    the Cheeseburger was excellent Santino thanks

    • @nebraskaryan9308
      @nebraskaryan9308 Год назад +1

      Except the hack jokes on Covid and trump. Time to move on.

  • @johopahopa
    @johopahopa Год назад

    “Good to See ya Phil!” Hahahah

  • @Jpetersson
    @Jpetersson Год назад

    Thats that guy, Anton Santana from the Bad pals podcast!

  • @jrok172
    @jrok172 Год назад +17

    Can Jamie get a "Please" every once in a while...

  • @tangoalpha9955
    @tangoalpha9955 Год назад +60

    I love watching the major tournaments, but haven't tuned in for a single PGA event since LIV was launched. So much more fun to watch LIV, no more morning to afternoon tee time differences where the weather/course changes almost completely. Players seem happier, looser and the team competition is actually a fun dynamic.

    • @gregorypalmer4909
      @gregorypalmer4909 Год назад +8

      Bot alert

    • @BigSnipp
      @BigSnipp Год назад +6

      And they take money from killers! Win-win.

    • @Wild_west_84
      @Wild_west_84 Год назад +2

      Ok bot boy whatever you say

    • @tangoalpha9955
      @tangoalpha9955 Год назад +9

      @@BigSnipp I think you'd be really disappointed to learn what Saudi money props up investing in companies you probably survive off of, haha. Always ignorant hypocrisy, or out right. Enjoy what you enjoy, don't try to hate on something on the account of virtual signaling, with no actions behind your beliefs.

    • @tangoalpha9955
      @tangoalpha9955 Год назад +4

      @@gregorypalmer4909 Imagine thinking opposite opinions from yourself are bots

  • @jamesking1482
    @jamesking1482 Год назад +2

    FYI - Abu Dhabi owns 10% of the UFC

  • @skye2281
    @skye2281 Год назад

    Who made your jeans?
    Joe: rwooosh 😂

    • @skye2281
      @skye2281 Год назад

      @Mediateam202 LOL, FU scammer!

  • @Suh-spence
    @Suh-spence Год назад +6

    If you are worked up about Saudi money on LIV then you should be worked up on China money on NBA.

    • @1247.cccccc
      @1247.cccccc Год назад +1

      Complaining about Arabs dismembering one of their own is rich when Julian Assange is locked up in England.

  • @spencerplummer8002
    @spencerplummer8002 Год назад +19

    I wish they would have touched on the fact that PGA didn't have any guaranteed money to play in these tournaments. I would have liked to have heard Joe's view on that

    • @rand0me
      @rand0me Год назад +1

      Because it's about skill. The PGA doesn't invite people to play, they have to qualify for tournaments.

    • @spencerplummer8002
      @spencerplummer8002 Год назад +3

      @@rand0me and once they qualify they should be paid plain and simple. Literally the only professional sport that you can show up and not get paid... And they changed it btw so now all golfers get paid some money regardless of if they make the cut or not. So they know they were wrong, which goes back to what he was saying about them being stuck and rooted in tradition

    • @acbower4468
      @acbower4468 Год назад +1

      @@spencerplummer8002 no, they shouldn’t. I have played competitively my whole life and the idea, the PRESSURE of playing and not getting paid is a part of what separates pro golf from other pro sports…
      You want paid, produce…plain and simple.

    • @puttervids472
      @puttervids472 Год назад

      @@spencerplummer8002 why ? It is a pure meritocracy….. and that’s how pure competition in sport works. Or should work.

    • @spencerplummer8002
      @spencerplummer8002 Год назад +3

      @@acbower4468 I disagree if you've put in the time and money to get to that level like these guys have they deserve to be reimbursed. Stop sticking up for the rich elitist they have more than enough to compensate these guys even if it doesn't cover their costs completely they deserve something for putting in the work to get there. Could you imagine a football player getting signed to a team and playing on Sunday and then because he has 3 fuck ups he doesn't get paid for the day, or a fighter in MMA shows up and gets knocked out and he doesn't get a paycheck at all!? It's insanity, their punishment for mediocrity should be they don't get to be pros anymore it shouldn't be they don't get paid at all. Eventually just getting show up pay will weed out the contenders from the pretenders.

  • @slide_drexler
    @slide_drexler Год назад +5

    When asked about what he thought of Golf, Furio Giunta said: "Stupid Fu***ng Game".😂

  • @djayslyons7263
    @djayslyons7263 Год назад +1

    World golf ranking points are the other key issue because those are the things that get you into the majors and weigh towards tradition (and the TPC) to a lesser extent. PGA has had an uncompetitive Monopoly and has kept the ceiling on player winnings. Imagine no one in the top 10 of golf has won more than 10 to 20 million for the most part over the last few years compare that to the contracts that they hand out in the NBA NFL Major League baseball etc

  • @robgoodier8185
    @robgoodier8185 Месяц назад

    Serious question, does anyone know where I can get that t shirt Rogan is wearing?

  • @jopo7996
    @jopo7996 Год назад +13

    Joe "How much are the best players getting to play LIV golf?"
    Andrew "A Joe Rogan Spotify contract."

  • @AB-fw6qp
    @AB-fw6qp Год назад +13

    LIV golf is basically like when Happy Gilmore started playing golf

  • @TurdFerguson456
    @TurdFerguson456 Год назад +2

    What they forgot to mention: The history of golf through the PGA Tour(Records, Stats, etc.) is devalued and will depreciate the more successful LIV becomes. And it goes much further than that.

  • @DaGreenMarshmello
    @DaGreenMarshmello Год назад +6

    I was debating if I watched this one, glad I missed more golf talk 😄

  • @matthewpielet9320
    @matthewpielet9320 Год назад +11

    What he said about Zion Williamson is hilarious.

  • @JulianShell33
    @JulianShell33 Год назад

    That golf doc is getting great reviews at the moment

  • @djdestroyer
    @djdestroyer Год назад

    The guys with the "quiet" signs use them to pump up the crowd. You're allowed to cheer/chirp during their back swings. Caddies race to the green. Shoe beers in the crowd. It's a wild time.

  • @KevinRobinson-fm1qr
    @KevinRobinson-fm1qr Год назад +4

    "Go to Snopes" said no intelligent person ever....

    • @jakeferreirafamily
      @jakeferreirafamily Год назад

      These are american jeans”” bruh he takes shit so personal and when he told dave portnoy to stfu i was so annoyed

  • @MAustinN
    @MAustinN Год назад +13

    Dammit Joe. LET'S GO GOLFING! ⛳

    • @Marin3r101
      @Marin3r101 Год назад

      Bro quit acting like you know him personally...groupie.

    • @MAustinN
      @MAustinN Год назад

      @@Marin3r101 look at all your comments on videos. Nothing but garbage coming from you.

    • @cameronevans6338
      @cameronevans6338 Год назад

      @@Marin3r101he’s quoting DJ khaled you sped

  • @jarednewton5687
    @jarednewton5687 Год назад +1

    When I was in college, one of my dormmates asked me to teach him how to play golf. I asked why and he said he is a business major and the majority of deals made are on the links. Additionally, I know people with golf memberships, solely for business purposes.

    • @squigglyphrank9348
      @squigglyphrank9348 Год назад

      This is true. I know dudes that wanted to learn golf so they could connect more with guys at the office.

  • @stephenbarrett8000
    @stephenbarrett8000 4 месяца назад

    ' Have fun' I've seen a LIV golf contract that a golfer posted and it was a fkn nightmare! It was much more prescriptive than PGA contracts.

  • @nortonyatzee7254
    @nortonyatzee7254 Год назад +7

    I'm amazed that golf is THAT popular.

  • @jotac87278
    @jotac87278 Год назад +8

    They like to play golf because you can learn a lot about someone's personality by doing so. How aggressive they are, how they react under pressure, how competitive they are. It puts you in situations that really shows more about who they are.

    • @freedfree7933
      @freedfree7933 Год назад +1

      That's basically any sport

    • @jotac87278
      @jotac87278 Год назад +1

      @@freedfree7933 to some extent yes. This sport is more of an individual sport rather than a team sport though. It has plenty of down time when chasing your ball around the course.

    • @JT-fm4ye
      @JT-fm4ye Год назад

      ​@@freedfree7933 was about to say I could genuinely think of 10 other sports in 10 seconds that this would apply more so to and also this is any sport.

  • @J4RMAMS
    @J4RMAMS 2 месяца назад

    Golf is an art form and while enjoying the thrill I enjoy a fine cigar. There are levels to fine handcrafted premium cigar and spirits. Selective boutique manufacturers like Didier Cigars is truly special. I’ve done the pairing with Angels Envy and a Salomon from Didier Cigars. The experience is truly magical and sophisticated.

  • @dereksondergaard2883
    @dereksondergaard2883 Год назад

    Guess I need to try cvs qtips

  • @antonlifer4449
    @antonlifer4449 Год назад +30

    I'm with Andrew Santino on this one. I always believe competition is a good thing. PGA needs to figure out how to evolve a bit more and maybe change some old rules and policies to bring some new fans in. Also the fact you can't take footage from your play to hype up on social media is ridiculous. Golf is pretty boring ..so why wouldn't you want your players posting awesome highlights on their social media pages of the fun cool stuff that might intrigue people into watching it. Idk man this whole There's only allowed to be one company or sports league is ridiculous. It's a open market. You can do whatever you want and no one can say you can't.

    • @Cornwall1888
      @Cornwall1888 Год назад +5

      You can’t compete against people who have unlimited money and don’t need to balance the books, their goal is sportswashing not a viable business

    • @fjalkinge
      @fjalkinge Год назад

      @@Cornwall1888 the knight of all morals writing this comment with a device all made from blood money. I know I’m doing the same, but talking about sportwashing is just bullshit. The US and Europe are acting like they care about people, all this nonsense is just them justifying moving to 3rd world countries building chemicals factories with zero regulations and care for human rights… hypocrites

    • @chriss4084
      @chriss4084 Год назад +2

      yeah lets make it all gimmicks like baseball and football. Maybe we could get strippers and sound effects everytime someone hits a ball or misses a shot. Awesome!!!! Itll be just like the movie Dodgeball, SWEET! Thatll get the kids in for 30 seconds. Maybe sll the golfers can wear 600 sponsor oatches like nascar and the blue angels can fly over rhe course. I cant wait for alternate golf club colors each season. Can we redesign the courses to pitched towards a bigger hole so theres more hole in ones too? How bout a flying jumbotron blimp for rhe crowds. RADICAL DUDE! I cant wait to see everyone on one wheels and hoverboards, golf carts are so bulky and terrible for things. Theres too many golf clubs too, happy gilmore only needed a drivsr and a putter, like wtf? I just hope someone cool wins the Budweiser PGA Amazin classic brought to you by StatefarmnInsyrance at the Meta bowl

    • @daroaminggnome
      @daroaminggnome Год назад

      @@chriss4084 take your meds

    • @chriss4084
      @chriss4084 Год назад

      @@daroaminggnome i dont take meds, nice projection. Im just demonstrating how kittle changes to sports lesd to garbage over time and why the PGA is attempting to mantain their brand and golf. Theyve seen what going for the quick bucl has done to all the other sports that have changed to "grow the audience" and how they have to keep changing because its never good enough. Look how much baseball has changed in the past 20 or so years. Seems all fake at this point. How many game 7s are there in sports now? Seems very unlikely it went from a rarity to a regularity. I mean come on

  • @huskers865
    @huskers865 Год назад

    My God,how hard is to look up some attendance numbers

  • @MikeSoutham
    @MikeSoutham Год назад

    There are a few more than 1 outside of the US. Next season there are even more (Australia included)

  • @clubequintafalcao
    @clubequintafalcao Год назад +21

    Can’t believe he spent 14min talking about Liv but didn’t mention Cam Smith, the best golfer on the planet.

    • @NattyC123
      @NattyC123 Год назад +1

      Facts

    • @bobbowie9350
      @bobbowie9350 Год назад +4

      Its generic talk. Kind of what I expect from JRE

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 Год назад

      Joe knows nothing about golf and Santino very little, they just know its a viral topic for a good clip.

    • @clem7095
      @clem7095 Год назад

      Behind McIlroy right?

  • @Twi66e
    @Twi66e Год назад +4

    I don’t like when he talks tough. I don’t believe him at all

  • @juvenalsaldana8672
    @juvenalsaldana8672 Год назад

    It’s about 15k at the stadium and attendance at the event can be 250k plus

  • @Taskforce1
    @Taskforce1 Год назад +3

    Jamie actually turns the camera on himself for a sec during this podcast. would be cool to see him more

  • @supEnoc
    @supEnoc Год назад +3

    Santino's a great guest. Smart and funny dude. Watched some Ginger whiskey and some Bad friends. Always dominating Bobby.

    • @supEnoc
      @supEnoc Год назад

      @@louiecampers1767 Lmao, what does that even mean? Bobby Lee is sometimes very funny in a podcast setting. His standup is meh though

  • @hughjainus2820
    @hughjainus2820 Год назад

    Where a lot of the controversy is coming in to play, is counting for world rankings. It’s like a company has fights like the UFC but it’s only one five minute round, and those fighters are being included in the world rankings.

  • @nege1124
    @nege1124 Год назад

    The commentary around the google search 13:40 is incorrect. Over 500,000 people attended the Waste Management Open in 2021. 20k were at the 16th at any given time.

  • @keithtuttle9154
    @keithtuttle9154 Год назад +9

    A few things:
    The typical capacity at the 16th hole is around 20,000 (daily).
    Pro golfers are independent contractors who are given the choice of the PGA TOUR or sign with LIV. There’s a big difference though, with the tour they actually have some freedom unlike those with LIV who are obligated to play where and when they are told. Some golfers want to “have their cake and eat it too” desiring to play both, this is what the tour opposes. Ultimately, make your choice and live with it.

    • @pjpredhomme7699
      @pjpredhomme7699 Год назад

      you are very correct keith on all points - recognize that the ones that went to LIV -got paid an awful lot of money for it - and as you notice they are unable to be content with that - speaks much more about those individuals than anything else.

  • @JeDxDeVu
    @JeDxDeVu Год назад +11

    I've been watching golf for years. I only realised they could never wear shorts in the PGA once I watched LIV lol

    • @andrewm.6538
      @andrewm.6538 Год назад +1

      Look up
      “Joe Rogan asks Elon Musk HARD Questions about Cobalt Mining for TESLA Batteries!”
      😢

  • @juanchohoncho
    @juanchohoncho Год назад

    Tournament sets records daily for attendance. 100,000 plus people go there for the tournament daily.