How to replace a window espag lock in a uPVC window
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Paddy's DIY - How to replace the espag lock on a uPVC window
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In this video i'm going to show you how to replace the espag lock on a uPVC window. This is the same process for nearly all types of window locks, be they roller cams (like in this video), shootbolts or hook locks.
There are a couple of sizes to check to ensure you buy the correct replacement window lock for your window. The first size to check is the backset. This is the measure of how deep the window lock is recessed into the window sash. To measure the backset, measure from the edge of the lock to the centre of the window handle or to the centre of one of the fixing screws. Sometimes the backset will be stamped on the gearbox of the window lock, but not always. The most common backsets are 20mm, 22mm and 25mm.
The next size to measure is the overall length of the window lock. Simply measure from one end of the face plate to the other. Common sizes are 400mm, 600mm, 800mm and 1000mm. These sizes can vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Some manufacturers stamp the size or a size code on the face plate of the lock. In the lock in this video the size code is "GR.60". This particular lock measures 550mm lock, but is designed to suit a window sash with a minimum size of 600mm. The replacement lock is 600mm long.
The last size to check is the width of the faceplate. 16mm is the standard width. Both window locks in this video are 16mm wide.
The process of replacing the lock is very straight forward.
Remove the two screws holding in the window handle and remove the window handle.
Remove the screws along the face plate of the lock.
Remove the lock
Insert the replacement lock
Insert the window handle and test that the handle is in the correct position in relation to the window lock.
Refit and tighten the two screws for the window handle.
Refit the screws along the face plate of the lock.
The new window lock in the video is slightly different than the old lock. All that's left to do is re position the frame keeps to suit the new lock. This is what you would have to do if you replace a broken lock with a window lock by another manufacturer.
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You're an absolute star. Clear, concise and easy to follow. This is the real RUclips.
Thank you 😊
Just completed fitting a side opening lock in my third floor flat thanks to your clear instructions. A bit awkward being off the ground, but what appeared at first to be a daunting task turned out to be fairly simple. Many thanks.
Excellent. Well done 👍
Yea, I've just moved into a 2nd floor flat with two failed locks. The handle is at the bottom of the frame so the mechanism will be a bit difficult to remove and replace I think. Never done anything like that before so I'm just weighing up the job and trying to learn before attempting it.
Take the beads off then take the glass out then you can unscrew the hinges to take the window out it makes it much easier if you dont want to be stuck in an awkward positions especially when high off the ground not worth the falling risk 👍🏼
A 1,000 thanks you Sire. All the way from Leeds YORKshire.
Glad it helped you 👍
Thanks Paddy - Have revisited your videos a few times now and they are so helpful and clear in getting a job sorted myself 👍
Thank you kindly 😊 glad you find them helpful
Thank you, you made it look very easy and I'll be doing it myself now after my window has been shut for about 6mths now. 👌
Paddy, you saved my life pal. All the best to ya!
Great stuff 👍
Great video. Been looking for this case study nearly two days.
Glad it helped 👍
Thanks for the guidance, it cleared up everything I needed to know before I committed to buying the espag! Enjoy the beeer!
Thank you Damien. Much appreciated 👍
Thanks. You made it look simple. I'll be commenting when I've changed the lock.
thank you this is very clear and informative, it looks a bit intimidating but i think i understand more about the window and the problem now :)
Brilliant video, simple, clear & informative instructions with no messing about like other youtubers thank you! 👍
Thanks for the comment :)
I followed your advice and new lock fitted. However you need too if the lock is off-set or in-line. Thanks.
Straight to the point! Cheers Paddy!
Thanks for the comment 👍
Many thanks for this video and the others you made. It enabled me to fix my window less than 10 minutes.
Glad they helped William :)
Thaaannnk yooouu!!! ❤ Having to do this myself, so it's a relief to know what to expect xx You're an angel for making this video ❤
Glad it helped 👍
That worked a treat with the Swiss Army Knife - thanks a bunch! But the lock pin sticks again straightaway - is there a way to mend that too please?
Really helpful video though I’m having an issue still, the new lock I bought the actual mechanism is too wide for the hole the old one came out of, do this come in different sizes?
Nice one , next job on my list.👍
Great video thanks. It helped me replace a broken window lock today.
Glad it helped
Outstanding!!!!! Thank you so much for posting this. Quick question: the handle on my window won't budge, how do I know if the problem is the handle or the espag lock pls? Many tks
Excellent demonstration 👍
My window had the key in it and the key broke and the half of the key is still in the lock.I made the mistake of just pulling on the handle until the lock broke and I could open my window and shut it again but I wasn't aware at the time that I could have got the key half that was left in the lock out and then open the window without breaking it using a hak if you want to call it that.Basically I need to get the lock fixed and sort out the window as there is now a draft coming through where the key went in and in another corner of the window and in winter it's obviously worse.I would really appreciate some real advice or anything that can help me to move forward and get the window back to what it was before when there was absolutely no draft and it was great.Thanks for the great video very good guy.
I'd have to see pictures of it. A draught from where the key goes in doesn't make sense to me I'm afraid
Thanks for the video, really helpful
Thanks Paddy, exactly what I’m looking for. 👍👍👍
Glad it helped 👍
great video very helpful, thank you
Finally. Thank you so much for this video
Glad it helped 👍
Perfect - saved me a few quid!
Glad it helped :)
decent video paddy it helped me out thanks
Perfect demo
Thanks for the comment :) glad it helped
greatly helpful thank you!
Great video; this is just what i need to do - How do I do this on an upstairs window that opens outwards? Thanks
S G I’m in this position too, tempted to just take the window out of its frame
Dear Paddy, hello, thank you for these videos. Are you drilling a new hole in the UPVC frame, when you re-position up the receiver, please? I don't know (anything about windows, and) whether there are pre-existing screw holes? Thank you, best wishes
I'm just using the same screws to make the new holes. Pvc is like wood, as long as the screw has a sharp point at the tip, it will cut a new hole as your screwing it in. If your screws have a drill tip ( these are called self drill screws) it just means there is some metal reinforcing under the pvc layer. These will drill through both pvc and metal as you screw them in
I had a price to change 3 of these £522 they wanted lol thanks for the video
522 quid!!! Daylight robbery
Thank you
Great video - as a way of thanking you for posting it, I tried to order my replacement lock from you, but it looks like you don't ship to England.
Hi Kell, sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Yes i only sell in Ireland at the minute. The cost for courier to the UK is uncompetitively high i'm afraid. Hope you got a lock locally to you. Glad the video helped you :)
Very helpful video. Thank you.
What a clear video....I always get someone to fix my locks but one lock is on its way out. Its a Mila gr80. I want to do it myself. Can I use a 800mm length instead of 750mm original fitting and.... do I need to buy new double keepers as my current keepers are single.
800mm was fine
Amazing, thank you! I can't find the brand, it's just a blank part with maybe a 1 or L??
ruclips.net/video/5HkPks3wlfY/видео.html
Check this video and select the closest one to it.
Or remove it from the window and bring it to a local window company. They should have one
OK demo except you didn't explain about using Alan key to loosed the mushrooms on the espag rod?
Awesome instructionally video. 5* thank you!!
Thanks for the comment
Fantastically useful content, thanks for putting in the time and effort in producing the videos. I have some windows and they lock with rods mounted internally inside the window I think? Can these be removed and replaced?
Thanks for the comment. Yes they usually twist out from each end
@@PaddysDiy cheers, thanks for the information.
How would I do this with an out opening window in my bedroom? I'm can't really access the side panel.
Take the window off
Thanks very much...a great help
Thanks m8 helped me right out 👍🏻
My window lock is jammed. The screws on the side are stuck in lock position rather than open and the window is open. What do I do?
If the screws are wrung off, you can try a broken screw remover to get the screws out
Hey, great video and i want to give this a go myself. Mine has just broke and its a Mila gr 119. I cant seem to find anything that would be a suitable replacement, are you able to help to see what would be suitable? My current mila has 4 mushroom cams, 20mm backset and a 16mm wide flat rail. Thanks in advance
All the odd size gr's are made for munster joinery. Gr 75, gr95, gr105 etc. They're the only place you'll get them I'm afraid
Thanks Paddy. Very clear. My wife has lost key for hadle. Any suggestions?
Try this
ruclips.net/video/vJvshk0boXU/видео.html
Brilliant! Looking forward to try this tomorrow, however!! The window opens away from me outside and it's situated on first floor! How do I access it without getting a very long ladder? Ta!
I just reach out, ladders are too dangerous. Tie your drill to your wrist with some cord in case it accidentally slips out of your hand.
Brilliant. Thankyou.
Glad it helped
thank you , very handy, exactely what i needed to know
Glad it helped :)
Great video - can you post the name of the alternative to the Mila GR60 which has the same locking points as the discontinued part - can't quite pick it up from your accent, or if you have a link could you post that please.
The brand is hautau, they are obsolete now too. I must make un updated version of this video.
Nico make an espag lock that is practically identical to the old mila gr60.
www.nico.co.uk/product/espagnolette/
Y window in the bathroom is locked in a downward position, removed top screw no problem, the handle in in a downward position and won't budge to enable me to remove bottom screw, what can l do to get the handle to move and enable me to get at the bottom screw.??? Thanks in advance.
ruclips.net/video/5YQ-vqgk4Qs/видео.html
Sounds like the handle is broken. Try the method in this video
I guess I'm in trouble because my window is stuck in the locked position and the replacement handle simply rotates in the mechanism, just like the old one, so not sure how I can get the window open to change the espag....
ruclips.net/video/c8leMv6ibo4/видео.html
Really good video.
Top man
Glad it helped
Hi Paddy - I've just fitted a new espag lock into a bathroom top closing window. The new parts' dimensions perfectly matched the old (as per your other video on the 6 measurements needed). I previously replaced the hinges on this window so they are fairly new also - the gearbox in the old espag broke hence replacing. A problem I've encountered is that the window is quite difficult to close as the mushroom cams engage with the old receivers. I loosened off the cams into the summer setting (away from the seal) and it did help a bit but the window is still very stiff when closing, it will close however. I'm not sure of anything else I can adjust to back it off a little (If I keep turning on the cams when furthest away from the seal they start going back towards it again so I know I'm at the maximum distance I can be away from seal). - Any ideas?
You could have the hinges positioned too low or too high. So the rollers on the espag are rubbing the bottom of the receiver or the top of the receiver. Just have a look where abouts the rollers are lining up in relation to the receivers
@@PaddysDiy Sound, will play around with the height so and see how I go. Thanks.
Hey I have the same window handle, where did you get it from? I want to replace the exact same one
Munster Joinery is the only place you'll get them
hi Paddy, thanks - is the process similar for a horizontal style bathroom window - locking mechanism broken.
Yep, identical. Trickier to get at though
It seems impossible to get too from the inside. Outside not an option. I would be hanging my arm out at an angle trying to remove and replace it by guessing where screws are.
@richat1691 yeah it's an awkward job. Make sure you have your drill strapped to your hand. Using the selfie camera on your phone is a good help to locate where the screws are
Thanks, il remove it and figure out what i need and then give it a go
How do you find out which one you need if it’s got no brand or numbers on please?
ruclips.net/video/5HkPks3wlfY/видео.html
Hi do I have to order the exact same length espag? My window Espag is 1200mm can I order a 800 mm one?
I would try get the same lenght. You can put a shorter lenght espag in but, what can happen is that the window doesn't get pulled in at each corner. As the rollers are further away from the edges of the window.
If you lost keys can you Replace How?
Hello Paddy, just a quick question;: if the locks on a window are only just going into the receivers, would this affect the compression of the sash against the frame?
No. You can adjust the compression of rollers with an Allen key. That's if you want the sash to seal tighter (or looser)
@@PaddysDiy Thank you for your reply. I've set the rollers for maximum compression, but when closed there's a bit of a gap at the top of the sash on the lock side. Is there anything else I check that might be stopping the sash fully sealing against the frame? Thank you again.
@John Gartland i think i misunderstood. If the roller should travel into the opening of the receiver about 10mm. If its only just catching the receiver it would definitely effect how much it compresses. You'll have to move the position of the receiver
@@PaddysDiy Thank you
Hello Paddy, we have air coming through the gap around the key lock on our window sash handle. Would you have any suggestions as to how air is getting through to the handle? Thank you
I would have to see a picture of the handle to know
@@PaddysDiy Thank you for your reply. On further inspection, the sash close to the handle is dented and therefore isn't sealing against the gasket. After checking around the sash, I presume the draught is coming through the gap from air entering the frame from the drain holes.
My window is defect it is closed and keep turning 360 somebody helps
Thanks for the video. When you were moving the receivers on the frame, did you drill new holes in the frame, or there are already holes and you just needed to move receiver and to screw it back?
No when i moved the receiver there are no holes. I use the screws to create new holes. The screws are self tapping, the point of the screw cuts into the PVC, creating a new hole. Most windows will have steel reinforcing behind the PVC. If this is the case, the screws will have self drill tips (the tip has a drill point that drills through the reinforcing). If you reuse the screws that hold in the receiver you can't go wrong.
Thanks a million Paddy! Great help. Will take off the old locks tomorrow and will try to find similar ones.. Unfortunately I couldn't find brand name or model type written on the face plate of the window lock
ruclips.net/video/5HkPks3wlfY/видео.html this is a link to another one of my videos on how to correctly measure a window lock
Mine is completely jammed. I cant even turn the handle fully to get to the other screw. Its as if the gearbox is stopping me from turning the handle up, as you would normally do to unlock it... 😐
Is the handle moving partially and stopping?
@@PaddysDiy
Yes, it moves up a bit then it's stuck. I either get a locksmith £££🤬 or I somehow saw the handle off, but I reckon I'll still not open it.
@sj-30000 just make sure the handle itself is not locked. If its definitely not locked, force the handle into the open position, remove the handle, then use the method in this video
ruclips.net/video/c8leMv6ibo4/видео.html
Great, thanks BUT ...... my window is locked in the CLOSED position and the square shaft hole moves freely 90 degrees without resistance. What do I do ???? cut the window unit out and get a new one ??
Hi Stephen, have a look at my video on how to open a broken window lock
ruclips.net/video/c8leMv6ibo4/видео.html
Hi, yep I found that about 2 minutes after I posted my note !!
It worked for me, Thank You very much indeed, your posts are superb.
Cheers Steve
Good to hear Steve :)
Hi Paddy - Great vids thanks for much for sharing your knowledge. Seeing as your website is no longer running, do you have any reccomendations on where non-trade people can source replacements parts?
Thanks for the comment. Where abouts are you located?
@@PaddysDiy North Kildare
silvershardware.com have online shop like mine
very well define.
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This guy is amazing his knowledge is worth millions.
Thanks Joe
Hi, I've removed my handle but the spindle has come away from the handle and is jammed. I can turn it with a pair of mole grips but not pull it out. I've tried wd40 and left overnight. Any other ideas?
Is it just the spindle left? or is the base of the handle left too?
I have a broken 750mm long 20mm backset mechanism from Munster Joinery (2003) but it has 3 mushrooms on it not 2 as shown on the GR80. I can't seem to find this mechanism anywhere with 3 mushroom cams, would you have this?
Hi DOK, i'll check with my suppliers and get back to you
I need one too that has 3 mushroom cams
My window won't open its stuck in closed position....do I have to take the Windows out?
He's done another video covering that situation.
Paddy o doors
Just what I was looking for. Thanks for the advice.
You are expert and very knowledgeable. Thank you. Top man, bless you.
Thanks for that Paddy. Just what I needed.
My window lock has broken to the point where the handle just turns up and down but it doesn't actually unlock the window so i can't open it to gain access to the side strip - any ideas?
ruclips.net/video/c8leMv6ibo4/видео.html
What do you do if the mechanism has broken with the window locked shut?
ruclips.net/video/c8leMv6ibo4/видео.html
Thank you! This made finding, ordering and replacing the part easy!
good to hear
@@PaddysDiy good iinstruction thanks
Great I hope to fix our bathroom window been broken locked over Ten years!
Thanks - that worked perfectly with a spare Stanley knife blade.
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Very useful. Thanks. God bless you for sharing.
very helpful cheers mate!
Glad it helped 👍
Might be a stupid question but one of my handles suddenly doesn't close completely. I have looked everywhere and couldn't find explanation why. Do you have some idea what could it be?
Not a stupid question at all, Great question in fact. There could be a few different reasons why. First thing to try is to open the window out and close the handle, and see if it closes down fully. If it does close, then the handle and lock are fine but there is something blocking the mechanism from closing. If it doesn't close, then either the handle or the mechanism is the problem. Could be something as simple as the lock in the handle protruding in the wrong position
@@PaddysDiy I did check and the handle closes completely with window is open. I will try figuring out what's blocking the locking mechanism. Weird that it just happen suddenly without any work on the window.
thanks for this video , this has saved me lots off money thanks man
Paddy, you're an absolute genius. Excellent demo.
Great mate thanks just what I needed
Is there any equivalent to the Mila Gr120? Looked around everywhere for it and cant find it.
Yes there is a Mila GR120. They're not that common but you'll get them
Ill keep looking cheers!
Nice one, this saved me a few bob on a call out
Glad it helped 👍
Thanks so much
great vid , explained and demonstrated so well , thanks
Glad it helped :)
Thanks for this
Cheer's Paddy great help.
Thanks Keith, Glad it helped :)