" It is titled “Second & Sebring” because I lived in Sebring Court, on the corner of Second Street, in LeHigh Acres Florida, when this happened to me. My mother was the most important person in my life, and taught me more than anyone will ever know. She was an angel on earth. I love and miss her dearly. I wrote the song for her, and would like, out of respect, for the band to take the time and effort to perform the vocals correctly." -Austin Carlile's blog
We know it was 3 years ago but we will never forgive this guy for saying something so cruel about our inspiration during a song that was about his DEAD MOTHER.
Josh Ramirez Jerry is amazing, he is an amazing vocalist, and he is an extremely nice guy. I met him last night after Glass Cloud played. Yes, in this video he was a douche, but this was 3 years ago. I like Austin Carlile too, I think he's a great vocalist, and Of Mice And Men is a great band, but just drop it guys. It was a long time ago.
At the time of this Austin deserved everything bad that came to him. He backstabbed his band cheated on his wife. Austin Carlisle at the time was extremely hated by his band. Hate jerry all you want but it was the BAND who hired him. You have to remember this wasn't too far away from getting kicked out of attack attack. What jerry did was wrong and honestly should have kept the song out of the list and put a SEA airplane song instead.
Watching this again and being a fan of OM&M pisses me of. As an artist you never go to that kind of level for disrespect. You have shit to say, say it off mic. Austin wrote this song for his mother that passed away and I even scream this song when I think of my mom. Even the title comes from his street. Beyond out of line on Jerry. OM&M have come a long way and I hope they put out many many albums
@@Dobro-gq8iq So settling down with your family and becoming a Christian excuses you from all the shit you done to others in your past? Damn I wish it was that easy 😂
I would have stopped playing right then and there if I were Tino or Phil or hell even Shaylee (sorry if i spelt the name wrong) but Jackson (i think thats who he is, i cant remember) was fucking smiling when he said it. So happy he left.
10 years ago - "I fuckin don't like you Austin Carlile" Everyone: *hates this guy and praises Austin* Today: *Austin Carlile has multiple sexual abuse alligations against him and is said to be the reason Attack Attack almost broke up* Everyone: ....perhaps we were too harsh on you Yeah he's an ass 100% but honestly....that line has aged oddly well
@@redwingsfan451 according to his former band Attack Attack he slept with anything that moved. Also his response never quite said he didn't do anything
I've never seen live videos of them before... The clean vocalist is really good. A lot of bands like this have clean vocalist that suck live, but this dude is good.
Jerry- There's a reason you're no longer in OM&M... you're simply no good. I wouldn't go trash-talking a guy in the middle of a song he wrote about his dead mother. Look at your "career" now and look at Austin and Of Mice & Men's career now. Needless to say, I'm sure they're well-off without you.
Gerard Way As did I, but after listening to their older stuff, I realized just how much they had changed, and how we'll never truly have OM&M, just Linkin Park 2.0
@iwillwait In this video, the screamer isn't Austin. Austin Carlyle was a former screamer in OMAM. But I THINK he's back in the band (correct me if I'm wrong).
Actually, he asked them not to play at a while after he left, not straight after. The letter in which he asked them not too was after this performance.
Wow wtf he insults Austin Carlile WHILE SINGING A SONG ABOUT HIS DEAD MOTHER! I don't care how long ago this was, it still pisses me off to this day. It pissed me off then, it pisses me off now
Ok? Thats around the time a lot of men go bald. Pretty standard. You're weird making fun of someone for something they have no control over. Hopefully you went bald since making this comment
Kinda funny how years ago everyone was like “fuck Jerry how could he disrespect Austin like that” but now that he’s gonna be cancelled for being a rapist nobody got nothing to say bout that 🤔🤔🤔
Danny didn't disrespect Austin and his mom. In the middle of the song and the end he said 'Austin is a pussy' 'Austin is a prick' 'Austin Carlile will be dead' like what the hell.
not an om&m fan all to much to know whats up with them. but why is this other guy screaming? is austin not in the band anymore or is he covering for a show? and did he say "i fuckin dont like you austin carlile"? D:
Love how years later, everyone forgets all the nasty shit Austin said about Jerry and the rest of OM&M that started this. Good on Jerry stepping in to keep the bands tours going amid all of the drama Austin started.
What. How in this universe was that comment in any way "homosexual"? Please elaborate. I am ever so curious to take an in depth tour into the chasm that is your mind.
@ItsMyChannelNotYours I think that was only for this song and when he hardly knew the lyrics. The other times are pretty much when they had to change the way the songs were screamed due to Jerry not being able to scream like Austin.
i love how everyone (except for jaxin) was uncomfortable with jerry insulting austin like that, despite their issues with austin at the time. i don’t know if shayley often did that at the end of the song: “if you know the words, put your hands in the air with me and sing it. let me hear you,” but that was nice.
They probably can't really hear him since they're in front of their amps and the microphone speakers are in front of them. I don't think they would have let him do that if they knew what he was saying at the time.
Oh, I see what you're saying but I don't think it was because of lack of learning the lyrics, I think he was out for malcious intent when he was screwing up the lyrics.
@iiXxBeAStlYxX No. You can tell from his tattoos that it was recent. It was on his first tour back with Of Mice & Men. His wife (now ex-wife) has even mentioned it.
@ItsMyChannelNotYours This is one of the few videos where I see him talk shit about Austin live. I don't think he talked shit EVERY time they played live.
He was a last minute replacement for their tour with Alesana, then straight after had to do Warped with them. It's pretty hard to learn all their songs in weeks.
I know that this videos old, i'd just like to say that Jerry went a bit too far screaming about how much he hates Austin. I understand that he doesn't like Austin, its just that publicly being a giant douche is not acceptable. *-*
My question is, why would OM&M have him play with them if he hated Austin so much and they knew he was gonna insult Austin on a song which meant so much to him?
@Kane13Emo yeah i think he is the only person in the band that actually like austin cause in the new interviews everybody kinda stares at him really bad
@adamcosgrove123 3 days before the first tour he was on. What's wrong with chucking headphones on during tour before you sleep and reading the lyrics and shit. The fact he didn't take the time to learn the lyrics to song by HIS OWN BAND shows he isn't 100% into what he does and is nowhere near ready to be there.
First of all, it's blatantly disrespectful when he says he doesn't like Austin Carlile. But to insult him during a song Austin wrote in dedication to his deceased mother, now you just don't do that.
" It is titled “Second & Sebring” because I lived in Sebring Court, on the corner of Second Street, in LeHigh Acres Florida, when this happened to me. My mother was the most important person in my life, and taught me more than anyone will ever know. She was an angel on earth. I love and miss her dearly. I wrote the song for her, and would like, out of respect, for the band to take the time and effort to perform the vocals correctly."
-Austin Carlile's blog
I think Jerry is an awesome musician and vocalist but this is so unprofessional there is no excuse for this
Jerry - "If you know the words sing along"....."Cause i dont"
We know it was 3 years ago but we will never forgive this guy for saying something so cruel about our inspiration during a song that was about his DEAD MOTHER.
Austin doesn't have shit on Jerry and you'd know that if you weren't a fucking idiot fan boy
You are calling me a fan boy and yet you are the one saying jerry amazing
Josh Ramirez Jerry is amazing, he is an amazing vocalist, and he is an extremely nice guy. I met him last night after Glass Cloud played. Yes, in this video he was a douche, but this was 3 years ago. I like Austin Carlile too, I think he's a great vocalist, and Of Mice And Men is a great band, but just drop it guys. It was a long time ago.
Jerry is the fucking man
Fair enough Austin Carlile wasn't the best then but to start insulting him during a song that is about Austin's mum, nah that's out of order.
Who in om&m was better?
Lol its pretty funny tho, and none of the other band members stood up for him so maybe he sucks
At the time of this Austin deserved everything bad that came to him. He backstabbed his band cheated on his wife. Austin Carlisle at the time was extremely hated by his band. Hate jerry all you want but it was the BAND who hired him. You have to remember this wasn't too far away from getting kicked out of attack attack. What jerry did was wrong and honestly should have kept the song out of the list and put a SEA airplane song instead.
This song is about his dead mother. It doesn’t matter what Austin or the band did? Jerry should’ve shut his fucking mouth during this song.
Dude Austin is the one that formed of mice & men. A lot of false information right here.
@@justinerickson1006 I never denied he did? All I’m saying at this point in the bands time they hated Austin.
@@alib3208, nah Jerry knew what a POS Austin really is so this was needed.
@@DeathKilledU Not during this song dude. Complete and utter disrespect
Ignoring Jerry's comments Shayley was killing it!
Watching this again and being a fan of OM&M pisses me of. As an artist you never go to that kind of level for disrespect. You have shit to say, say it off mic. Austin wrote this song for his mother that passed away and I even scream this song when I think of my mom. Even the title comes from his street. Beyond out of line on Jerry. OM&M have come a long way and I hope they put out many many albums
Chris Schatz this comment didn’t age well
@@jakedeverill3897 why?
@@Dobro-gq8iq Because Austin still hasn’t changed lol
@@Reborn95 from what i've heard he's settled down has a family and kids and is a christian. what's wrong with him?
@@Dobro-gq8iq So settling down with your family and becoming a Christian excuses you from all the shit you done to others in your past? Damn I wish it was that easy 😂
Jerry: THIS SONG GOES OUT TO AUSTIN CARLILE!
Crowd:YEA!!! WOOOOOOOOO!
Jerry: I fuckin dont like you Austin Carlile!
Crowd: .................
“I fucking dont like you Austin Carlile” ages better by the minute
context?
@@darrelb1561 austin has multiple sexual assault allegations
@@alecturcot4659 fuck why am i not surprised 😐 cant have shit these days
Simply disrespectful to Austin and his mother saying that in her song. By the way, take the time to learn the lyrics Jerry. It might help you.
This dude can't even sing half the lyrics, he can't keep up with Austin lmao.
***** If the 16 year old stoner I used to know could do it for a gig in a bar, this asshat can do it for Warped tour.
Also, his vocals are understandable, Austin kinda sucks
@@andybobandyyy1648 if you can understand him while he’s screaming it isn’t metal enough🤷🏻♂️
This song sounds horrible without Austin. I am so glad that they kicked Jerry out.
"Aw I miss Jerry Roush being in Of Mice & Men!" Said no one ever..
Speak for yourself
It's always fun to show the fangirls there was a time neither Austin or Alan were in the band lmao,too bad Austin blows Jerry out the water.
I would have stopped playing right then and there if I were Tino or Phil or hell even Shaylee (sorry if i spelt the name wrong) but Jackson (i think thats who he is, i cant remember) was fucking smiling when he said it. So happy he left.
"If you know the words then sing along" (Cause Jerry doesn't know them)
1:45 the roadie behind jerry is like "Bro, are you serious?"
Pretty sure that's not a roadie. It's Alex Bigman of Fight Fair/Seeing Means More/Ghost Spirit
@@thehurrytheharmwhat was he doing ther e
10 years ago - "I fuckin don't like you Austin Carlile"
Everyone: *hates this guy and praises Austin*
Today: *Austin Carlile has multiple sexual abuse alligations against him and is said to be the reason Attack Attack almost broke up*
Everyone: ....perhaps we were too harsh on you
Yeah he's an ass 100% but honestly....that line has aged oddly well
Allegations is the key word here. Innocent until proven guilty? Don't forget about that.
@@redwingsfan451 according to his former band Attack Attack he slept with anything that moved. Also his response never quite said he didn't do anything
@@melodicsatisfactionproductions well I know he slept with your mom
Ive hated austin since 2011. Guess im one of the only few who could see it
Ignoring the hate, .. wasn't that Caleb shaking his head at the insults in the background?
I honestly lost my respect for Jerry after this..
Idek who that guy is or why austin isnt on stage
I've never seen live videos of them before... The clean vocalist is really good. A lot of bands like this have clean vocalist that suck live, but this dude is good.
yeah man that really makes all the difference
Can someone explain to me what happened to Austin? I'm new to the band and I pretty much know nothing. Why is Austin gone?
398 people dislike Jerry Roush, 113 people like the fact that Austin Carlile is back!
That red shirt looks familiar..
does anyone know what it is? or where i can see a picture of it or anything?
that'll be helpful. thanks.
So i know this is probably a bad question.. But is austin the guitarist on the left singing? cause looks nothing how he does now if so!
Jerry- There's a reason you're no longer in OM&M... you're simply no good. I wouldn't go trash-talking a guy in the middle of a song he wrote about his dead mother. Look at your "career" now and look at Austin and Of Mice & Men's career now. Needless to say, I'm sure they're well-off without you.
He's in Glass Cloud now
+Ghost Of Nova's Past Yes, but he's comparing OM&M's success over Jerry's.
Gerard Way At this point, Glass Cloud is infinitely better than anything Of Mice has released in the past 2 years
+Ghost Of Nova's Past True, but I personally enjoy the singles off of Restoring Force just because I got into them around that time. Nostalgia really.
Gerard Way As did I, but after listening to their older stuff, I realized just how much they had changed, and how we'll never truly have OM&M, just Linkin Park 2.0
who is the dude singing? (at the beginning and end, not the screams)
Jerry's better vocally and he has better songs but his insults towards Austin? This guy was a prick. (was because he's really nice now)
Yeah he and Austin had a big falling out back then just like with the rest of the band. They're definitely cool now though
@iwillwait In this video, the screamer isn't Austin. Austin Carlyle was a former screamer in OMAM. But I THINK he's back in the band (correct me if I'm wrong).
I love seeing bands play live with LTD or Epiphone guitars, it makes me feel a lot better about not being able to afford a real Gibson or ESP xD
wait is austin back in the band? (sorry i never really payed attention to the vocalists changing)
Honestly I'm very sure he was joking... They both have the same sense of humor. And Jerry's a very nice guy.
Ben Thies you must be too young... he wasn't joking. Douchebag move.
Actually, he asked them not to play at a while after he left, not straight after.
The letter in which he asked them not too was after this performance.
Jerry's screams aren't bad, but this song & band were made for Austin Carlile
Is that ben bruce in the back?
Wow wtf he insults Austin Carlile WHILE SINGING A SONG ABOUT HIS DEAD MOTHER! I don't care how long ago this was, it still pisses me off to this day. It pissed me off then, it pisses me off now
and what did he say about Austin? i couldn't understand what he said.
jerry roush made such an ass of himself in this set . xD
what does he say after he says this song goes out to austin carlile?
He's making fun of Austin, yet, he's in his twenties and already going bald lmao.
Ok? Thats around the time a lot of men go bald. Pretty standard. You're weird making fun of someone for something they have no control over. Hopefully you went bald since making this comment
Wait why wasn't austin carlile singing? Someone please answer?
i love the clean vocalist.. i wish i could sing and halfway scream like he does
Kinda funny how years ago everyone was like “fuck Jerry how could he disrespect Austin like that” but now that he’s gonna be cancelled for being a rapist nobody got nothing to say bout that 🤔🤔🤔
lol nope
I have to admit, Jerry is a pretty good vocalist. Even if he was an ass in OM&M. He is great in GlassCloud
What exactly did he say after he said "this song goes out to austin carlile"?
"i love jerry roush" - said by no one
I love jerry roush.
What did he say? I can't understand it. D:
Am I the only one who thinks Danny did way better
Danny didn't disrespect Austin and his mom. In the middle of the song and the end he said 'Austin is a pussy' 'Austin is a prick' 'Austin Carlile will be dead' like what the hell.
So that's probably why you liked Danny more
Team Weird Naw Danny actually did it better
BIrry Barber Danny really did do better. Jerry is a douche and he sucks at screaming
Danny did better than 95% of the screaming vocalists lol
not an om&m fan all to much to know whats up with them. but why is this other guy screaming? is austin not in the band anymore or is he covering for a show? and did he say "i fuckin dont like you austin carlile"? D:
Love how years later, everyone forgets all the nasty shit Austin said about Jerry and the rest of OM&M that started this. Good on Jerry stepping in to keep the bands tours going amid all of the drama Austin started.
What happened?
@@CityInTheDark1he toom
Where is Austin.? Did he get kicked out, or something.?
dat Loma Prieta shirt doe
@pfengfilms what's his blog?
sorry if I'm asking stupid but when does he insult him?
When did you meet him to gain this knowledge?
wait, what did he say? i couldn't really understand it
@themeatwall Austin has been back for awhile dude! They recorded a new album and did a headlining tour with him. Now they are on warped tour!
Shayley Bourget, he left the band and now he has a new project called Dayshell:)
what did he say about austin around in the 1:40?
What. How in this universe was that comment in any way "homosexual"? Please elaborate. I am ever so curious to take an in depth tour into the chasm that is your mind.
@ItsMyChannelNotYours I think that was only for this song and when he hardly knew the lyrics. The other times are pretty much when they had to change the way the songs were screamed due to Jerry not being able to scream like Austin.
@xDeadLin3 what did he do to get kicked?
i love how everyone (except for jaxin) was uncomfortable with jerry insulting austin like that, despite their issues with austin at the time. i don’t know if shayley often did that at the end of the song: “if you know the words, put your hands in the air with me and sing it. let me hear you,” but that was nice.
What happened between all of them?
"If you know the words, put your hands in the air with me, and sing it"
(Jerry: *Keeps hand down*)
im sorry, im clueless right now, but who the hell is this guy? i thought austin was the vocalist
Sebring court on Second street(Second&Sebring) is where austins mother died so yea this whole songs about his mum.
They probably can't really hear him since they're in front of their amps and the microphone speakers are in front of them. I don't think they would have let him do that if they knew what he was saying at the time.
@TrippsTutorials who's shay?
I saw them several months after this (December 2010) and he was still messing up the words and doing handstands instead of screaming.
is that the guy who now fronts Glass Cloud?
why isn't austin on the stage ?, and why is this guy singing his song?
i'm a lil new to Of Mice and Men... so i'm gonna ask a few questions here XD who's that fuck with the beard? and where's Austin?
why does jerry have beef with austin??? Austin asked him to take over while he was getting heart surgery??
Oh, I see what you're saying but I don't think it was because of lack of learning the lyrics, I think he was out for malcious intent when he was screwing up the lyrics.
someone tell me why he is talking about Austin?((
@iiXxBeAStlYxX No. You can tell from his tattoos that it was recent. It was on his first tour back with Of Mice & Men. His wife (now ex-wife) has even mentioned it.
@DauntlessVV He had to have heart surgery. And had some disputes with the other band members. But he's back now.
Can soneone please explain to me why he's replacing Austin here? And why they hate each other/used to hate each other. I'm so fucking lost.
@ItsMyChannelNotYours This is one of the few videos where I see him talk shit about Austin live. I don't think he talked shit EVERY time they played live.
i have bad ears lol can someone tell me what he said? i couldn't hear :P
why was jerry there is the first place?
He was a last minute replacement for their tour with Alesana, then straight after had to do Warped with them.
It's pretty hard to learn all their songs in weeks.
This comment made my day... You've earned an A+ on my book. :)
@MsMariaprieto He left the band because he needed to have major surgery i belive... but he is back now
Please explain to me how you auto-tune a scream? Cause that sounds like horse shit. Ive never heard of that.
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I know that this videos old, i'd just like to say that Jerry went a bit too far screaming about how much he hates Austin. I understand that he doesn't like Austin, its just that publicly being a giant douche is not acceptable. *-*
Austin's a pussy. Long live Jerry Roush
Danny Worsnop did this 1000000000000 times better
Was he kicked out for saying that?
My question is, why would OM&M have him play with them if he hated Austin so much and they knew he was gonna insult Austin on a song which meant so much to him?
Will someone please tell me when he insults Austin, because I can't stand to listen to Jerry try to be as good as Austin.
@guineapirate132 I think it says 'so is his name' at the end. But still...
did he say " i dont like you austin carlile"????????
@Kane13Emo yeah i think he is the only person in the band that actually like austin cause in the new interviews everybody kinda stares at him really bad
What the fuck did i just watch. Pretty sure that was Ben in the back and he did not look happy either. This was terrible
@adamcosgrove123 3 days before the first tour he was on. What's wrong with chucking headphones on during tour before you sleep and reading the lyrics and shit. The fact he didn't take the time to learn the lyrics to song by HIS OWN BAND shows he isn't 100% into what he does and is nowhere near ready to be there.
First of all, it's blatantly disrespectful when he says he doesn't like Austin Carlile. But to insult him during a song Austin wrote in dedication to his deceased mother, now you just don't do that.