Thanks, Gabi, a terrific review. In particular I appreciated your description of inital (out-of-the-box) hearing and how it sounded before a little burn-in and how little time it took to "fall into place". Equipment matching is sometimes a significant factor, so getting your perspective on this element was very interesting. I got on board the "vintage" look train with a pair of KLH Model 5's (keeping the covers on with 2 large dogs). Adele and Billie Eilish both give me that detailed sound of the voice (and breathing) you described and as a listener of detail it's really amazing. (I also appreciate the minimal audio jargon).
Such an awesome review! This is the first video I’m seeing of your channel and I love so much about it. I’m looking to upgrade from Dynaudio Emit M20 to the Lintons but feel I will miss the intricate details of high quality Recordings. Unfortunately can’t really audition either in Adelaide. This video helps with my purchase decision. Keep up the great work! 😊
Thank you for the personal review. There's much to be said comparing these 770's to Lintons with regard to performance to price point. I've always drooled over these 770's, but you're not the first person I've seen reviewing these against the more economical Lintons.
Thanks Gabi, for taking on the 'big question' for Linton owners. You've assuaged my FOMO, for now! Just one question... you didn't say much about the imaging. Given the similar big-box standmount configuration to the Lintons, my expectation is that they should be similar to the often-startling imaging of the Lintons. Lintons on well-recorded material (eg. modern Blue Note and Chesky recordings) image like demons. So the 770s... yes? No?
I am wondering if the 770's were to be warmed into service for several hundred hours if our reviewer would enjoy them more like she has the Linton's. After all, both speakers were redesigned by the same designer.
Great job!! Very easy to follow and just the right length of video.. Good production quality and easy to hear.. Great looking stands too. Are the stands included?
I love the looks of those mission models, had a set of mission 707s that were built well and cast drivers and vifa tweeters and were very smooth and musical, I love the white for nts and writing it on the front, they look really sharp and unique. The 762i might have been one of my favorites I'd heard from mission, but then again I liked the 707 equally tonally speaking but gave a little low end up to the 762i.
@@allenwilliams8962 No......The missions are more neutral across the board! Now that can be better or worse depending on one's need! Having both I can go back and forth ....I love both of them!
@@allenwilliams8962 The missions aren't in your face per say......as they exude smoothness.....but with clarity and even faster transients than the quite capable lintons!
Thanks for the review. I heard some clips of the Mission’s and they sounded pretty crisp. I have the Linton’s and some Klipsch Heresy IV’s. Opposite ends of the spectrum much like how I would imagine the Mission’s would be compared with the Linton’s. If I didn’t have the Heresy’s I might consider them but I find between the Linton’s and the Heresy’s I can cover pretty much everything I want based on the recording I am playing and if I want more of an on the stage dynamic that the Heresy’s bring or sitting a few rows out in the auditorium feel that the Linton’s have. Either way we’re spoiled for choices these days.
@briancopp9412 - I know it probably depends on your mood and music you are listening to, but which speakers do you listen to more? Trying to decide between Forte IV's, Missions 770 or just keeping my Linton's? Only have space for 1 pair of speakers
@@allenwilliams8962 I really only have room to use one pair at a time and the other pair has to sit covered in a corner. I have generally been using the Linton’s because with the stands they just aren’t as easy to move and the record storage underneath makes them kind of nice and I don’t mind the more relaxed sound.
For young people: when polypropylene (heavier than paper) mid-woofers appeared, solid state or Naim was the law. That's why Hegel is more suitable... Now Mission has achieved (with new materials, the possibility of almost unlimited simulations, etc.) coherence between the retro presentation of music as a whole and the modern stratification into high, medium and low levels and that for a very decent (not small, inflationary) price. So much for that. Cheers in Australia!
No. These speakers are made for valves. True 8ohm speakers with minimum of 6ohms and a very benign curve. If nothing else thats what the designer says lol. I spy a crappy Ortofon red in this video and Primaluna kit is for squalid state lovers who dont want to go fully (read properly) over to the dark side.
That came across as a very fair review and I'm really tempted by these. The problem is that if I were to buy them I'd also need a new amp/streamer so it becomes an expensive proposition!
@@RennieAsh More capable speakers need more capable amplification. I like my set-up. The amp and speakers are of a piece. If I added the 707's then they'd not be.
Mission speakers there are for all tastes being mine the Argonaut mkII(or 780 , not sure now)and the 761 ,the first very high volume with 4 0hms impedance, the 761 , very detailed with 100watts at 4 ohms ,this last sound perfect with all amplifiers i´ve throwed at it ,the Argonaut are good to any powerfull amplifier also very detailed and at the same time Loud . This new (old) model is for sure very good allthough i never heard them yet ,i´ve heard some friends saying that they have to buy them having bought recentelly the wharfedale also new ,old look, which both are my favorite brand of speakers ,having also several others from diferent brands which are also good
Hello. I really liked your review, but I was hoping of more comparisons with Lintons, since I am planning to get them. Which one do you prefer and why, and do you think Mission 770 is worth the price difference?
id just like to try to buy my own speakers and make me a set of floor 3 ways. im not talking big, 10". im having trouble finding a company i can get crossover kits from, plug and play type. they want crazy prices for crossovers
They are both wonderful speakers, personally, I love my Lintons. But there are plenty of people out there that are obsessed with the 770s, including my boss & colleagues. The two speakers couldn't be more different in style. So it just comes down to your taste. And probably what the rest of your system looks like.
@@HanifBarnwell what is the big difference. there are a lot better 2-way speakers than 3-way. Henry Kloss prefered the SQ of 2-way over 3-way for example
I heard some sound clips, yesterday, between the Lintons, Mission 770, KHL Model 5's and others. The Model 5's were my favorite, the Lintons were not my cup of tea. Most of the comments favored the Model 5's and the Mission 770.
@rosewoodsteel6656 - I have heard the same demo from "Just Audio" and listen to all as well and my thoughts were the same as yours until I heard them in person. And guess which ones most of the employees (and owner) have from Just Audio (which they listen to and demo for customers almost daily). The Lintons! My only advice is listen to them IN PERSON.
@@allenwilliams8962 Thank's, Allen. It's been so long since I bought loud speakers, I will have to research where I can listen to them live. The Linton's were not impressive to me at all in the sound clips. Very interesting..
@@allenwilliams8962 My guess is that placing a mic in front of a speaker eliminates the room ambience and characteristics. And, as we all know, speaker placement is critical for getting the best out of a system. There are just so many variables. Were the Linton's better placed than the Model 5's when you auditioned them? Was the amp a better match for the Linton's? Were the tone controls tweeked for the optimum performance of each type of speaker? Is there a greater profit margin for "Just Audio", in selling a set of Linton's...? I'll have to do some more research to narrow down the field some more and then find a good place to audition them. Another speaker that sounded great to me (in a comparison with the Model 5's) is the Sonus faber Lumina V's. The Sonus are more expensive, but sounded amazing in comparison sound clips. I like clarity and sweet tonal definition in a speaker. The "wall of sound" thing isn't my cup of tea. :)
I own the Linton's as well and just love them. I did not buy the stands I found them to be unattractive to me and to low to the floor. I am using 24" stands instead. I also own a pair of 1987 Celestion SL6si and will always have them in my speaker collection.
Mission Website: "The original 770 was well known for its warm, rich and natural sounding character and the new Mission 770 retains that standing but imbues it with an open, detailed performance that will entice you to explore your whole music collection, once more." WRONG - if you liked disco then these were the speakers for you - if you wanted warm and rich - and dare I say it deep rolling bass - Tannoy if you please - I used to sell Hi-Fi in the 80's - also they were cheap - these new ones are up there price wise with an awful lot of competition
Can they take any power? It's hard to believe that an 8" inch woofer could move anywhere close to the same amount of air as the 12" JBL. People don't want something that's going to "break up" when you put the power to them. Do these "break up"? For $5,000.00 they should mean clarity at high volumes too.
As for me, comparing the Mission 770 to the Wharfedale Lintons is not a good idea. The Lintons are a budget loudspeaker. The Mission 770 are not in the same universe.
@@minxreef6581 Sorry, I hope I didn't ruin it. The Mission 770 follows the bold styling of the original 1978 version. In the July issue of hi-fi+, reviewer Ed Selley said people's opinions were divided on the aesthetics, but he loved them. "Mission does not blend in to spaces it sits in and I have a certain affection for the unapologetic approach."
I appreciate your description of the sound of these speakers. Best review I’ve seen of the 770s.
Thanks
The Mission 770 were always a great looking speaker, and now they look even better. Absolutely one of the best-looking speakers around.
The "looks"?
Thanks, Gabi, a terrific review. In particular I appreciated your description of inital (out-of-the-box) hearing and how it sounded before a little burn-in and how little time it took to "fall into place". Equipment matching is sometimes a significant factor, so getting your perspective on this element was very interesting. I got on board the "vintage" look train with a pair of KLH Model 5's (keeping the covers on with 2 large dogs). Adele and Billie Eilish both give me that detailed sound of the voice (and breathing) you described and as a listener of detail it's really amazing. (I also appreciate the minimal audio jargon).
So cool to see Mission speakers again. Always loved their logo. Never got to hear them back in the day but the audio magazine really liked them.
Great review, glad to hear the Hegel works well on this type of speaker.
I love my Hegel H120 it’s such a great little amplifier.
Such an awesome review! This is the first video I’m seeing of your channel and I love so much about it. I’m looking to upgrade from Dynaudio Emit M20 to the Lintons but feel I will miss the intricate details of high quality Recordings. Unfortunately can’t really audition either in Adelaide. This video helps with my purchase decision. Keep up the great work! 😊
Thank you for the personal review. There's much to be said comparing these 770's to Lintons with regard to performance to price point. I've always drooled over these 770's, but you're not the first person I've seen reviewing these against the more economical Lintons.
Thanks Gabi, for taking on the 'big question' for Linton owners. You've assuaged my FOMO, for now! Just one question... you didn't say much about the imaging. Given the similar big-box standmount configuration to the Lintons, my expectation is that they should be similar to the often-startling imaging of the Lintons. Lintons on well-recorded material (eg. modern Blue Note and Chesky recordings) image like demons. So the 770s... yes? No?
My kinda reviewer ,I wish my wife was a hi fi addict too . Best wishes from Sheffield South Yorkshire England.🤗😺
I am wondering if the 770's were to be warmed into service for several hundred hours if our reviewer would enjoy them more like she has the Linton's. After all, both speakers were redesigned by the same designer.
Great video, can't wait to see more content like this in the future!
Great job!! Very easy to follow and just the right length of video.. Good production quality and easy to hear..
Great looking stands too.
Are the stands included?
Yeah the stands are great, and they are included in the price.
I love the looks of those mission models, had a set of mission 707s that were built well and cast drivers and vifa tweeters and were very smooth and musical, I love the white for nts and writing it on the front, they look really sharp and unique. The 762i might have been one of my favorites I'd heard from mission, but then again I liked the 707 equally tonally speaking but gave a little low end up to the 762i.
Got mine hooked up today! They are fantastic!
@xsamitt does the midrange sound more colored than Lintons?
@@allenwilliams8962 No......The missions are more neutral across the board! Now that can be better or worse depending on one's need! Having both I can go back and forth ....I love both of them!
@@xsamitt is a way more in your face presentation with the 770's vs. Lintons?
@@allenwilliams8962 The missions aren't in your face per say......as they exude smoothness.....but with clarity and even faster transients than the quite capable lintons!
Thank you for the review, you should do more of them.
Will try my best to keep them coming for you.
Like your presentation style. Nice job, and thanks for the review.
Thanks for the encouragement, this is my first proper review, so I'm kind of just learning.
Thanks for the review. I heard some clips of the Mission’s and they sounded pretty crisp. I have the Linton’s and some Klipsch Heresy IV’s. Opposite ends of the spectrum much like how I would imagine the Mission’s would be compared with the Linton’s. If I didn’t have the Heresy’s I might consider them but I find between the Linton’s and the Heresy’s I can cover pretty much everything I want based on the recording I am playing and if I want more of an on the stage dynamic that the Heresy’s bring or sitting a few rows out in the auditorium feel that the Linton’s have. Either way we’re spoiled for choices these days.
@briancopp9412 - I know it probably depends on your mood and music you are listening to, but which speakers do you listen to more? Trying to decide between Forte IV's, Missions 770 or just keeping my Linton's? Only have space for 1 pair of speakers
@@allenwilliams8962 I really only have room to use one pair at a time and the other pair has to sit covered in a corner. I have generally been using the Linton’s because with the stands they just aren’t as easy to move and the record storage underneath makes them kind of nice and I don’t mind the more relaxed sound.
@@therealdealblues thank you!
For young people: when polypropylene (heavier than paper) mid-woofers appeared, solid state or Naim was the law. That's why Hegel is more suitable... Now Mission has achieved (with new materials, the possibility of almost unlimited simulations, etc.) coherence between the retro presentation of music as a whole and the modern stratification into high, medium and low levels and that for a very decent (not small, inflationary) price. So much for that. Cheers in Australia!
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Lol@@martinaston1715
No. These speakers are made for valves. True 8ohm speakers with minimum of 6ohms and a very benign curve. If nothing else thats what the designer says lol. I spy a crappy Ortofon red in this video and Primaluna kit is for squalid state lovers who dont want to go fully (read properly) over to the dark side.
I wonder how they compare to the bw 805 d4 or kef reference 1meta or dynaudio contour 20i
That came across as a very fair review and I'm really tempted by these. The problem is that if I were to buy them I'd also need a new amp/streamer so it becomes an expensive proposition!
Why would you need that? I'm sure your current stuff would be fine
It's a slippery slope. But I a fun journey.
@@RennieAsh More capable speakers need more capable amplification. I like my set-up. The amp and speakers are of a piece. If I added the 707's then they'd not be.
They sound wonderful. Hard to believe how high that small speaker punches !
Mission speakers there are for all tastes being mine the Argonaut mkII(or 780 , not sure now)and the 761 ,the first very high volume with 4 0hms impedance, the 761 , very detailed with 100watts at 4 ohms ,this last sound perfect with all amplifiers i´ve throwed at it ,the Argonaut are good to any powerfull amplifier also very detailed and at the same time Loud . This new (old) model is for sure very good allthough i never heard them yet ,i´ve heard some friends saying that they have to buy them having bought recentelly the wharfedale also new ,old look, which both are my favorite brand of speakers ,having also several others from diferent brands which are also good
This is a nice review, thanks.
Sounds like the Linton is a much more forgiving speaker.
Why bother even compare a 2-way vs. 3-way?
It is defintely. Linton is way warmer tuned in sound and more lean back. Whereas 700/770 is way more in your face, but I really like the 770s.
Hello. I really liked your review, but I was hoping of more comparisons with Lintons, since I am planning to get them. Which one do you prefer and why, and do you think Mission 770 is worth the price difference?
Despite both sharing a vintage aesthetic sonically these speakers couldn't be more different. It will entirely depend on your personal tastes.
I prefer the linton I prefer a three-way it seems that you have a rock concert at your house
id just like to try to buy my own speakers and make me a set of floor 3 ways. im not talking big, 10". im having trouble finding a company i can get crossover kits from, plug and play type. they want crazy prices for crossovers
I have my 770's connected with bryston 28B Cubed and Bryston BP 26 and have zero sibilance!
Do you still prefer the lintons over the mission 770? Please elaborate. 😊
They are both wonderful speakers, personally, I love my Lintons. But there are plenty of people out there that are obsessed with the 770s, including my boss & colleagues. The two speakers couldn't be more different in style. So it just comes down to your taste. And probably what the rest of your system looks like.
No comparison 2way vs 3way design, can’t wait for the Dovedale Heritage’s!!
hello
even if you mention them, you didn’t compare the misionn with the l100 classic.
I am still hesitating between these 2 speakers. Someone ?
Thx!
@@HanifBarnwell what is the big difference. there are a lot better 2-way speakers than 3-way. Henry Kloss prefered the SQ of 2-way over 3-way for example
@@allenwilliams8962 are you kidding?
I heard some sound clips, yesterday, between the Lintons, Mission 770, KHL Model 5's and others. The Model 5's were my favorite, the Lintons were not my cup of tea. Most of the comments favored the Model 5's and the Mission 770.
@rosewoodsteel6656 - I have heard the same demo from "Just Audio" and listen to all as well and my thoughts were the same as yours until I heard them in person. And guess which ones most of the employees (and owner) have from Just Audio (which they listen to and demo for customers almost daily). The Lintons! My only advice is listen to them IN PERSON.
@@allenwilliams8962 Thank's, Allen. It's been so long since I bought loud speakers, I will have to research where I can listen to them live. The Linton's were not impressive to me at all in the sound clips. Very interesting..
@@allenwilliams8962 My guess is that placing a mic in front of a speaker eliminates the room ambience and characteristics. And, as we all know, speaker placement is critical for getting the best out of a system. There are just so many variables. Were the Linton's better placed than the Model 5's when you auditioned them? Was the amp a better match for the Linton's? Were the tone controls tweeked for the optimum performance of each type of speaker? Is there a greater profit margin for "Just Audio", in selling a set of Linton's...? I'll have to do some more research to narrow down the field some more and then find a good place to audition them. Another speaker that sounded great to me (in a comparison with the Model 5's) is the Sonus faber Lumina V's. The Sonus are more expensive, but sounded amazing in comparison sound clips. I like clarity and sweet tonal definition in a speaker. The "wall of sound" thing isn't my cup of tea. :)
Let’s us know ur thoughts after u hear some of these! Thanks !
I own the Linton's as well and just love them. I did not buy the stands I found them to be unattractive to me and to low to the floor. I am using 24" stands instead.
I also own a pair of 1987 Celestion SL6si and will always have them in my speaker collection.
in my opinion they are not speakers that need stands both are great and the bass is mode defined when in the ground level
Any midrange coloration detected on this speaker?
What is your opinion on Mission LX6 MKII?
How do they compare tothe KLH Model 5s?
good question
How tall are they with the stands installed?\
Mission Website: "The original 770 was well known for its warm, rich and natural sounding character and the new Mission 770 retains that standing but imbues it with an open, detailed performance that will entice you to explore your whole music collection, once more." WRONG - if you liked disco then these were the speakers for you - if you wanted warm and rich - and dare I say it deep rolling bass - Tannoy if you please - I used to sell Hi-Fi in the 80's - also they were cheap - these new ones are up there price wise with an awful lot of competition
Can they take any power? It's hard to believe that an 8" inch woofer could move anywhere close to the same amount of air as the 12" JBL. People don't want something that's going to "break up" when you put the power to them. Do these "break up"? For $5,000.00 they should mean clarity at high volumes too.
most speakers will take as much power as you can throw at them within reason, low powered amps will easily damage speakers when over driven.
Almost perfect, but the front letters 😞
I agree. To me it makes them look cheap..kinda ridiculous
My Epos E14's have the same stands :)))
As for me, comparing the Mission 770 to the Wharfedale Lintons is not a good idea. The Lintons are a budget loudspeaker. The Mission 770 are not in the same universe.
Made in UK… precision? Lol!
I’m sure they sound fantastic. So many great reviews. But they are just ugly. No way could those every get wife approval.
I agree...and the big MISSION 770 across the front is just terrible looking
I wouldn't buy these speakers just because of their looks. 🤮
Yes, I could live with the white front baffle, but not the giant "Mission 770" lettering.
@@BruceCross now I cant unread that "Mission" after reading ur comment. I'm gonna stick with Linton
@@minxreef6581 Sorry, I hope I didn't ruin it. The Mission 770 follows the bold styling of the original 1978 version. In the July issue of hi-fi+, reviewer Ed Selley said people's opinions were divided on the aesthetics, but he loved them. "Mission does not blend in to spaces it sits in and I have a certain affection for the unapologetic approach."
Over $7000 ! for this rubbish. A sick joke.
No burn in, sorry. Brain adjusting.
Made in China!!
770s is NOT made in China, they are made in the UK :)
I understand they are made in the UK. The Linton's are made in China.