Clearly op's wife has little or no respect for him. She had no intention of confessing, she was caught out. He has let her away with it scott free so dont be supprised if she starts pulling more bs.
So glad I saw your comments before I waste 20 minutes watching the whole video. 4 minutes in and the fact she went no-contact with him for a week after he found out about the pictures to set her story with Tanya. He took it like a doormat.
Yeah I'm with you on this. I know this is just fiction but damn, lol. Tanya organized this without any discussion with husband is line 1. Then she happily did everything playing an active role in helping wife do whatever was needed to cover after. Little to no remorse for husband. Nancy, big girl. She could have said no. She hid it for 6 weeks and tried the frequent sex routine after, in which even OP realized between that and the robe picture after that she in fact did grow to like it. Her first reaction when caught was to circle the wagons and plan with Tanya, breaking communication with husband which right there is a massive betrayal and show it's team loose wives vs doormat. For heavens sake she didn't even give him real notice of hear return and when she arrived she went straight to private convos with the photog. This is the doormat on the outside that was never invited to the softcore pr0n shoot, and everybody was in on it including the models but him. Wife will do that and worse in this scenario in the future for sure.
Yep. He didn't even ask if this was the first time. She looked puzzled and uncomfortable he said. Funny. Most of cheaters start like this. I bet if she meets up with him again, she will seek the male's validation since she is a mother who is 13 years older than his GF.
Dude, she had a whole week to set her story, work with Tanya, and alter what pics are in her online set. The fact that she wouldn't awnser or talk to you and didn't tell you is fckd.
legit I could knock out editing 1000 picks in 4 hours he gave her a week to do it and come up with a backstory in situations with honest liars you don't show your hand he showed it then folded like a deck chair with zero closing.
of course she did. she and photographer had a whole day that blocked op and made a story only admitting to the parts where theres evidence. it is called trickle truthing although theres a chance that she did not sleep with the college guy, the chances of her doing or maybe hiding more is higher. she had no problems hiding this and lying for 6 weeks without feeling any remorse until getting caught. have a backbone, do not cope and run from the truth.
@@yourgrandpa2539 OF course she did not had "closeness" with the student guy ! Don't make things up. I know the kind og Gf those dudes have and trust me she wouldn't let his be "too" close of another woman.
@@tomjoad1363 oh you sweet summer child, maybe it is unthinkable but theres even a small chance that they had foursome lol. the photo with bathrobes clinging to the college guy is interesting and yes theres a chance that nothing happened but a lot higher chance that it did.
@@tomjoad1363 tommy, there are many liars and cheaters in the world. both men and women are capable of doing much evil acts and you should not blindly trust what people tell you after having enough time to prepare a lie and get rid of the evidence. my advice to op or anyone in similar situations where your boundaries are pushed and you have been lied to: I know it would be hard to accept and you would be more inclined to believe her lies because you are scared of change and want to keep yourself in the comfort zone, but face the truth and have a backbone. it will be hard and you will be hurt in the beginning but at the end of darkness there is always light, you will be fine.
@@JohnSmith-bs9ym I had no idea this was a thing. It's so disgusting and malicious I don't even know where to start. Reading more and more of these reddit stories makes me feel ashamed to be a girl.
@@agreeable-youth Hey, you shouldn't be ashamed. I'm a girl dad, and I'm gonna teach my daughter to be better than these women. You can be too. Societal changes start with YOU. One positive young woman at a time :)
@@agreeable-youth while the guys who are cheaters are usually just disgusting pigs,,,the chase of conqest usually the female version is much more calculated and a part of them cheating is many times motivated also by the joy of humiliating him both in text and the cucking part ,and if they can get him to raise some other guys kid ohh my thats a dayly high,, i have talked to a few female cheaters who come clean and admitted their drive factor,,it was shocking
@@agreeable-youth don't be. yes most of this reddit story is about cheating wife, but reddit itself is a male dominated community, so of course more of the story will be told from the male perspective. infidelity is not so gender-biased like reddit make you believe. men can cheat too
#1 She never mentioned Tanya wanted to use a guy with her #2 She was NEVER going to tell him about the other guy #3 The cover up happened immediately, she told Tanya to restrict his access to the pictures #4 Photographers use different cameras!!! One camera can be used for the “professional” pictures and another for personal pictures. She lied for a reason and the OP had no clue, what else is she lying about??? Reach out to the guy and talk to him man to man!!!
Being naked with another guy and allowing him to feel her up is cheating. Even going through the shoot without OPs ok is cheating. That nude shoot present is tainted because of this.
my girlified does some modeling. Never at any point would a photographer call up unplanned male model for a nude/near nude shoot. That was planned to begin with. And she would 100% contact me to discuss it. Any change to original plan she calls me and says hey this is changing what do you think? Then all photos they didnt want yo to see were whipped before you seen them
Technically they pre planned it ahead of time. Tanya asked nancy if she would do a shoot with a male model, but she originally refused.... After she had taken several single shots and had nearly completed the soft photos, that's when tanya asked her again if she would sit with one of her male models.
Nancy isn't upset at what she did, she's upset it got exposed. It would have taken her .05 seconds to say "No, Im not confortable doing that!" or gotten up andcleft when pressed. Sadly this isn't the last we'll be hearing from this guy. The next one will be the drunken girls weekend with Tanya and her other friends.
This is a very common story on all these channels, TBH keeping it a secret is much worse then doing the photoshoot. OP needs more self respect, the wife needs to get better at enforcing her boundaries and she should have fessed up without confrontation, and the photographer needs to get better at not pushing boundaries. Overall the worst person in this story is the wife because she is ultimately more responsible for the health of her marriage then her friend, and she should have drawn a hard line in the sand or called and told the OP to ask if he was okay with it. There are a lot of charasmatic smooth talkers and boundary pushers in the world, and people who lack the ability to enforce boundaries will be on the fast track to destroying their marriage. if you can say "I do" you can say "no". There is no excuse.
And having your prestigious photography company publicly dragged through the mud because you pressured a repeat customer into a softcorn shoot. Tanya had much to lose herself, let’s not forget that.
I really doubt that is the truth and its the alcohol or tanya, that is the story they came up with after a day of not talking to op, pushing all the blame being drunk and her friend while only admitting to the things with evidence. trickletruthing they most likely did more and she was on it from the beginning. lied while talking to op "yeah its not going to be nude, fully clothed and only me" and lied afterwards "yeah there was nothing, these are all the photos" before the accident
@@gordowg1wg145 I doubt it. much more likely that is the story they came up with after not contacting op and talking to each other for a whole day. push the blame to alcohol and tanya while only admitting to the things with evidence. they likely did more and wife was on it from the beginning. lied while talking to op "yeah its going to be fully clothed and only me and her" and lied afterwards "yeah there was nothing, these are all the photos" can you really trust the word of a liar who kept it secret for 6 WEEKS before getting exposed?
@@gordowg1wg145 doubt it, she is a liar who found a cover up story pushing all the blame. much more likely that is the story they came up with after not contacting op and talking to each other for a whole day. push the blame to alcohol and tanya while only admitting to the things with evidence.
@@gordowg1wg145 they much more likely did more and wife was on it from the beginning. lied while talking to op "yeah its going to be fully clothed and only me and her" and lied afterwards "yeah there was nothing, these are all the photos" can you really trust the word of a liar who kept it secret for 6 WEEKS before getting exposed?
Lol, this poor fool, OP. She probably had been cheating on him. The amazing bedroom activity increased because she had a big turn on from this event. So he shouldn't trust her words at all. Tanya may have facilitated this cheating or may have let her cheat. Either way, the wife could have stop at any point, which she didn't.
As any longterm husband will tell you, If you wanna get your wife turned on, take her to a movie with an action star in it.... You know how many husbands got laid after they took their wives to see twisters? 😂
Sees compromising pictures. Doesn't record evidence... "Wife, wife, what are these pictures?" Complains about how he can't log in to see them any more. Gets told an obv fake story. "Yay, everything's OK now!" You can see how OP is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
What a doormat. Confronts her and accepts every excuse and story she comes up with. Confidently believe that he verifies all the evidence himself despite everyone else involved having days to the data without him.
That part where she asked OP to go pick her up some food after he found out you were taking provocative photos with some strange guy and ignored his calls & messages is wild to me, Seriously!, you may not have a husband anymore and you asked that 😂. Lets be clear she hid this for weeks, i have severe trust issues because im like if you hide something like that what else you're hiding. If he wants to take her back that's up to him and it's his marriage but she hid this from him for awhile I don't think she would ever tell him and she knows it, but the moment she called and asked him to pick up some food which i believed he should've said No, she disrespected him & his boundaries, hid the truth, ignore all communication until she comes up with a story, she don't deserve anything after that. She knew what she was doing, she should've said No to doing that shoot with that Man, she crossed a boundary she knows he's supposed to drop her.
If you wanna forgive her she needs to dump that so called friend of her that did the photo shoot , if you ask me she did it on purpose and wanted her to cheat and on purpose sent the pictures to her husband, a lot of women will sabotage another friends life when they are jealous and want to see some drama , if it was a real friend she would have never pushed her to make those pictures
If I can't reach wife while wife can be contacted by photographer, I consider both their versions of the truth compromised. Then wife gets downgraded on trust, forever. All the rest can be debatable. Good for him to find a way to better himself, making lemonade from lemons.
14.53 takes 10 seconds to rename on a computer, ten minutes to sort the last 50 or so photos and delete the ones she looks happy on. either wa, he needs to keep an eye now
OP needs to think this through. I understand that he doesn't want to break up his family and wants to go back to how things were with trusting his wife, but that ship has sailed. The photographer said i messed up, wife said hes going to be angry and worried he would divorce her. She was worried about what he may have seen, said that she felt uncomfortable doing the shoot with that man, but if she can do that in the spir of the moment then cheating is just one step. She was worried that he could copy the pics. She asked for him to be blocked from access. They both worked on the story to say and added reasons for delays. His wife was fine with hiding the truth and not concerned because her husband would never find her separate picture stash. OP explains that his wife looked uncomfortable in the shoot, but then says that the shoots theme was corporate woman giving into her desires of being seduction by a younger man, therefore she would have an uncomfortable expression that leads to letting go and enjoying the moment (seems she's a good actress). This all seems to point to that his wife is happy to lie and manipulate the situation as needed. She doesn't sexually desire OP as her partner. This kind of activity only 13 months after giving birth is suspect, they were drinking while doing the shoot, she is seeking attention already, gets caught up in the moment. Unfortunately, she is likely to cheat, if she hasn't done so yet. I would have done a paternity test and drawn up a post nuptial agreement as a minimum. But, I would have left just from the deception, cover up, and collusion, because that would mean that I was not someone she trusts and shares her true self with. The model and models girlfriend saw her fully naked and did soft porn, her friend recorded it and helped hide it, but OP was to not know? OP doesn't know his wife
The questions that he didn't ask her directly were, "Why did you hide this from me in the first place?", and "Would you have told me if I hadn't found out?" 🤔
All the people here saying hes a doormat and that he got fooled. The seeds of doubt have already been sown and, eventually, she will need to reap them. OP may have gotten fooled, but either way now he will always have that little seed of doubt just waiting for one wrong move, one hushed phone call or a night with "the girls" where she wears just a little too much makeup for that seed to get watered and then shit will REALLY hit the fan
What I find interesting is how during the shoot, she had the frame of mind to keep asking herself, "What would my husband think?" But never once thought to actually ask him. She could've put the whole thing on pause and said, "Hey, I thought I should tell you that Tanya wanted me to do a few practice shoots with a male model. Yeah, it's still boudoir stuff. Yeah, it's pretty intimate. No, he'll be in his underwear the whole time." Then he could've said, "Yeah, do what you want." Or "No I'm not comfortable with that." Or, "Okay, but on these conditions." Or, "Can you do this another time? I need to think about this." When you're in a committed, monogamous relationship with another person, you have to understand what their boundaries are and respect them, and while I understand that it can be easier to just guess, sometimes leaving it at guesswork can't be forgiven, and asking upfront is always the best course of action.
The wife is comfortable doing the shoot because she hid it for 3 weeks. If the husband did not find out about it, she may do it again and could even lead to full porn.
There should have been more consequences for the wife being so blatantly disrespectful. I don’t believe for a second the husband would have ever been told about it or gotten the nudes as an X-Mas gift.
Its amazing how his wife says she'll do whatever it takes to fix this but would not do what ever it takes to avoid the whole thing in the first place like walking out on this puke photographer who was already told no a week before about the guy posing with her.
The photographer and wife disrespected and lied to the poor guy before, during and after the photo shoot. Terrible behavior toward a guy that is obviously being taken completely for granted by both of them.
She had way too much time for a story and Tanya had a lot of time to change up stuff. The fact he's getting upset at people who don't placate his need to know everything is alright is telling.
You're married, it isn't just her phone, it's your phone too. If any man or woman denies you access to any part of their life, that's red flag ^100000000.
Im convinced that most people here dont know enough about photoshoots to realise that if you remove photos from a folder, the files will quite literally show that when the sequence goes 203, 204, 206, 209 and so on, to modify that you would have to go through the files, remove every single photo that was undesirable, individually change every single file numeration starting at the first photo you removed to the end of the shoot (which op said was around 1000) and this would've had to have been done after getting their story straught to endure it matches, i've had to manage the files of my company and that shit takes far longer than it should and god forbid you make a typo. Also by the way for those still thinking op got played with a lie, that means that they had to at some point have gone back, taken more photos with both op's wife and the model with her looking increibly genuine in her discomfort and then upload them and remodify the sequence from the first spliced in photo to the end AGAIN all without op noticing his wife being back there; they would also have to communicate all of this on another phone with some premonition that op would check it. After all that had worked out op's wife would then have to fake all of her emotions, and remorse is not something most people can fake then somehow for op's wife to suggest going to marriage counselling knowing damn well if anyone will catch a lie or a slip up that it'd be them because she for some reason thinks adding that massive risk of being caught out is somehow worth it. Take it from someone that used to have to loe for their own safety, liars dont make lying unnecessarily harder; keeping your own story straight for long enough for it to become an automatic thought like the truth otherwise would be is challenge enough. Really surprised that op stuck with her, believing her or not, at the end of the day his wife's actions have caused self doubt, trust issues, heavy stress, violated boundaries and proved a communication problem; thats more than enough valid reasons for people to bail; i hope staying is worth it for him
Hey, i'm just glad you came through and had some actual details on the photo shoot. I agree with you that there's a trust issue here. But it can be overcome with some therapy and talking about it... The biggest issue here is communication and the fact that nancy was afraid to talk to her husband about it shows that, after the fact, she felt really guilty... She should have come clean and the fact, that she felt that she couldn't talk to her husband is a bit of a red flag.... But it's a very common red flag in almost every marriage I've ever seen.
You know there is softwares out there that automatically rename files based on rules you set? You can even change metadata of the files with software especially on windows. I've used them to rename pictures, TV shows, etc; it is very easy to do so and a huge time saver.
@@a.murdoch5446 I was commenting on the possibility of changing the names manually or using a software to do it and not on the video itself. It isn't much effort though, there are free softwares and adding and changing the file names is super easy and fast. (check Advanced File Renamer)
Maybe it's because I've been through cheating before, but I keep coming up with ways I would take the conversation. "Don't make any rash decisions about leaving me!" Okay, I promise that any decision I make to leave you will not be a rash one. Boy, I sure I'm glad I've had slightly more time to think about this situation than you or Tanya had. "Tanya called me and said she screwed up and accidentally sent those other photos to you!" Really?! THAT was the screw up? THAT'S what you two think the screw up here is? Plus the whole thing about talk being cheap. All your words, and (much more importantly) lack thereof for weeks and then days after the "leak" are hugely overshadowed by the actual observed behavior. The fact that after confrontation, OP had his access to the private site immediately revoked also speaks volumes - there wasn't a confused "what about them?" from Tanya or any discussion about potential misunderstandings - locked out and radio silence instead. Yeah, telling me to my face you were trying to lie to me isn't as big of a confession as that was.
Why do these women always suggest counseling after they stray? If she did this, she does not respect her husband. She only respects the security he brings. Would she be ok if he started feeling up a hot young girl (hey it’s for a photo shoot - so it’s not cheating, so should be ok - right)
When she would call back I would have left a message with her and her family that she has an hour to call back or we are getting a divorce. Poor simp dude got played.
This one is easy. If a guy chooses to date an actress/model from the get-go, he is accepting these kinds of situational photo sessions. This is a completely different story. This is not her work, and she shouldn't have let the photographer convince her of the couple's shooting before talking to her husband. She knew it was wrong, that is why she lied about it. She also knows he is weak and a coward, and would never leave her, even if she cheated on him. Some guys are meant to be cheated.
So OP thinks because its "professional" it was ok from his wife to break boundaries and have a softcore photoshoot. Tomorrow his wife is going to become a professional sex worker and OP is going to be like, "so long as it's professional I see no problem". Also, Tanya is a horrible friend and is borderline predatory. Nancy already told her she wasn't down for a shoot with another guy but the day of, after easing her into it, she asked the question and then got her on some wine to loosen her up. That's not a friend of the couple because that friend was only looking out for herself. A good friend would be like, "you sure your husband is going to be cool with this"?". I can understand why OP rug swept though. He admitted that his ego was hit and had low self-esteem. He also admitted that his wife has gotten into shape and is now hot. Men, whose self-worth is tied to being married to a hot woman, usually have the hardest time enforcing boundaries. They will make all the excuses and blame themselves if they have to keep the fantasy alive.
Question: why was this photo session even necessary? I know I wouldn't be able to function normally after finding out about something like that. I mean, everytime I'd get intimate with her, she would be probably picturing the guy in her head. Thoughts just pop in one's mind. You can't control. The idea of that happening would be devastating.
The villain here is "Tanya". I wouldn't be surprised if she had it in mind to do what she could to bring the guy in, despite the wife already saying "no", as she finally did. As it is, I can easily see how the wife got a bit carried away with the fun of the shoot and, especially after a few "wines", agreed to pose with the guy, even if reluctantly. Everything she said agrees with the evidence and I see no reason to doubt it was the truth. That said, if it was a true story, and i were in that situation, I'd forgive her on the understanding that I might bring it up to tease her, sometimes, and I'd give here the most physical f*** session I could manage as I took out my residual feelings on her body. Yes, it's easy to lose fitness and put on weight, much harder to lose it - but definitely worth the benefits.
If I can't reach wife while wife can be contacted by photographer, I consider both their versions of the truth compromised. you cant really trust a liar who lied for 6 weeks and went on 24 hour no contact to prepare an explanation & "evidence"
@@yourgrandpa2539 You sure do seem like a controlling freak - I feel sorry for any woman who ended up with you. Are you suggesting you've NEVER found yourself in a situation where you ended up doing something you had no intention of doing, that you knew would cause all sorts of issues, and that you tried to pretend never happened? If so, I suggest you've either got a selective memory, or are lying to yourself.
How come Guys like him who has morals and ethics of his own forget about having self respect and even though he is literally seeing that it was a softcore he is trying to turn a blind eye to the fact. I am sure there's gonna be either a future post "I should have divorced her earlier" or this woman deceiving him for his entire life and probably even making him take care of another man's child
"Did it go further than that? No." How can you believe that? If the girlfriend was there and she was willing to step in and these were TEST shots why didn't he just use the girlfriend and not the man's wife?
Did he actually look at the Date/Time stamps for each file....that's more telling than what she put for a file name, she easily could have faked the date/time for each file with the time she had as others have said but it's harder to manipulate an actual file time & date stamp, also even more telling would be to look at the file metadata as that would be much harder to manipulate unless she set the time and date on the camera back to the original time & dates and retook them....he clearly missed his opportunity to properly investigate.
Every woman can cheat whenever they want. If they give you a reason to think they could be cheating, they likely are. Those cringe pics dont prove anything. She could just as well been afraid of proof being created that could lead to an investigation of her cheating.
If she was uncomfortable about getting nude with another guy, she wouldn't have done it. She'd be looking at a divorce, and the photographer would be getting sued.
HotAbsMcCool fantasies. She was uncomfortable in the moment, during the shoot, had to worry about being found out, but afterwards, when she has ZERO consequences, and her subconscious is free from worry, hey, let the freak flag fly.
Wife: "Hey honey, just calling you because Tanya wants to bring in a male model to practice couple's shoots. Some of the photos might get really racy. Are you comfortable with that?" OP: "Nah." Wife: "Ok, I'll tell her I'm done. Can you pick me up some Jimmy Johns cause I'm on my way home?" OP: "No problem. See you soon." *It's that simple.*
Throughout the story all I've learned is that Tanya is basically a grape photographer. Pressuring the woman and having her drink alcohol until she agrees to stuff she's obviously not okay with. Then again, dude's a doormat.
So the photographer refuses to answer his calls just as the wife so they can get their story straight and then they answer him? Why should he believe anything now that they had time to set their story straight? They could easily have paid the male model and his gf to give the correct answer. There is no way to know if the naughty ones were faked. Also tell her that you were not the one that lied, you did not need to get any story correct, you did not cuddle up to some dude, she needs to go and work on it. Alone. Like she did the shoot.
I believe her when she said nothing happened. But she did lie, and tried to cover it up. I say the marriage isn't beyond recovery, and yes, if your wife is hot and you are a fat ass, do something about it or it will be over.
This was a lost genre story from about 18 months ago. Altered, i commented on that story, yes i agree its cheating esp the secrecy and what aren't they telling,
I would be really really bothered if I were you. ATST I can imagine too how she could enjoy the shoot with no interest in infidelity. You might consider some counselling. I'd find it hard to just let that go but I'd guess she learned a lesson. The lesson for everyone is don't engage in ANYTHING with a member of the opposite sex that you aren't perfectly happy for your partner or spouse to know about.
I mean to be fair unless the wife was a virgin, when they first got together, some other man has already touched that woman's breasts and probably done more with her... However, it is a little weird based on the marriage contract... On the plus side, it sounds like the wife does feel really remorseful. It sounds a lot like she did something that was very impulsive. However, it was done semi professionally. Anyone who knows what happens behind the scenes of actual softcore porn or hardcore, for that matter, knows that there's nothing sexual about it.... If you wanna be turned off of porn for good, just find out what happens behind the scenes. It is so boring
Clearly op's wife has little or no respect for him. She had no intention of confessing, she was caught out. He has let her away with it scott free so dont be supprised if she starts pulling more bs.
So glad I saw your comments before I waste 20 minutes watching the whole video. 4 minutes in and the fact she went no-contact with him for a week after he found out about the pictures to set her story with Tanya. He took it like a doormat.
Yeah I'm with you on this. I know this is just fiction but damn, lol.
Tanya organized this without any discussion with husband is line 1. Then she happily did everything playing an active role in helping wife do whatever was needed to cover after. Little to no remorse for husband.
Nancy, big girl. She could have said no. She hid it for 6 weeks and tried the frequent sex routine after, in which even OP realized between that and the robe picture after that she in fact did grow to like it.
Her first reaction when caught was to circle the wagons and plan with Tanya, breaking communication with husband which right there is a massive betrayal and show it's team loose wives vs doormat. For heavens sake she didn't even give him real notice of hear return and when she arrived she went straight to private convos with the photog.
This is the doormat on the outside that was never invited to the softcore pr0n shoot, and everybody was in on it including the models but him.
Wife will do that and worse in this scenario in the future for sure.
Poor doormat. He's in for a fun future.
Yep. He didn't even ask if this was the first time.
She looked puzzled and uncomfortable he said. Funny. Most of cheaters start like this. I bet if she meets up with him again, she will seek the male's validation since she is a mother who is 13 years older than his GF.
Or he's in for a happy marriage and will live a long and successful life with his kids and his loving wife. Don't be so cynical 😂
@@a.murdoch5446 forgot to say 'being a cuck'
Dude, she had a whole week to set her story, work with Tanya, and alter what pics are in her online set. The fact that she wouldn't awnser or talk to you and didn't tell you is fckd.
legit I could knock out editing 1000 picks in 4 hours he gave her a week to do it and come up with a backstory in situations with honest liars you don't show your hand he showed it then folded like a deck chair with zero closing.
I know it's hard but always investigate before confronting. She had time to make up a story.
of course she did. she and photographer had a whole day that blocked op and made a story only admitting to the parts where theres evidence. it is called trickle truthing
although theres a chance that she did not sleep with the college guy, the chances of her doing or maybe hiding more is higher. she had no problems hiding this and lying for 6 weeks without feeling any remorse until getting caught. have a backbone, do not cope and run from the truth.
And the guy's fucking reaction at the end! "Oh, it's all my fault because I'm out of shape!" Dude needs to grow a spine
@@yourgrandpa2539 OF course she did not had "closeness" with the student guy ! Don't make things up. I know the kind og Gf those dudes have and trust me she wouldn't let his be "too" close of another woman.
@@tomjoad1363 oh you sweet summer child, maybe it is unthinkable but theres even a small chance that they had foursome lol. the photo with bathrobes clinging to the college guy is interesting and yes theres a chance that nothing happened but a lot higher chance that it did.
@@tomjoad1363 tommy, there are many liars and cheaters in the world. both men and women are capable of doing much evil acts and you should not blindly trust what people tell you after having enough time to prepare a lie and get rid of the evidence.
my advice to op or anyone in similar situations where your boundaries are pushed and you have been lied to: I know it would be hard to accept and you would be more inclined to believe her lies because you are scared of change and want to keep yourself in the comfort zone, but face the truth and have a backbone. it will be hard and you will be hurt in the beginning but at the end of darkness there is always light, you will be fine.
OP got played so HARD. The girls got their story straight and then they played him like a violin.
Yup. Nancy did stuff with the guy's girlfriend, too. We kniw she did and it's in a different folder.
Dumb*ss…
People who have worked in the modelling world knows what and how much goes on. Its like a big orgy
@@influentialnobody8960 fr?
@@ytcontent11 Yes. Never date a model or a gym-goer seriously.
that's cheating, OP is an absolute doormat
Man, she even did the classic "sudden, frequent sex with spouse right after cheating" thing to confuse the timeline in case of pregnancy...So gross!
@@JohnSmith-bs9ym I had no idea this was a thing. It's so disgusting and malicious I don't even know where to start. Reading more and more of these reddit stories makes me feel ashamed to be a girl.
@@agreeable-youth Hey, you shouldn't be ashamed. I'm a girl dad, and I'm gonna teach my daughter to be better than these women. You can be too. Societal changes start with YOU. One positive young woman at a time :)
@@agreeable-youth while the guys who are cheaters are usually just disgusting pigs,,,the chase of conqest
usually the female version is much more calculated and a part of them cheating is many times motivated also by the joy of humiliating him both in text and the cucking part ,and if they can get him to raise some other guys kid ohh my thats a dayly high,, i have talked to a few female cheaters who come clean and admitted their drive factor,,it was shocking
@@agreeable-youth don't be. yes most of this reddit story is about cheating wife, but reddit itself is a male dominated community, so of course more of the story will be told from the male perspective. infidelity is not so gender-biased like reddit make you believe. men can cheat too
#1 She never mentioned Tanya wanted to use a guy with her
#2 She was NEVER going to tell him about the other guy
#3 The cover up happened immediately, she told Tanya to restrict his access to the pictures
#4 Photographers use different cameras!!! One camera can be used for the “professional” pictures and another for personal pictures.
She lied for a reason and the OP had no clue, what else is she lying about??? Reach out to the guy and talk to him man to man!!!
Being naked with another guy and allowing him to feel her up is cheating. Even going through the shoot without OPs ok is cheating. That nude shoot present is tainted because of this.
It probably went farther after the photoshoot
A simp is a simp. They always find a threshold they can live with
my girlified does some modeling. Never at any point would a photographer call up unplanned male model for a nude/near nude shoot. That was planned to begin with. And she would 100% contact me to discuss it. Any change to original plan she calls me and says hey this is changing what do you think? Then all photos they didnt want yo to see were whipped before you seen them
Your gf does nude shoots with other men???
Technically they pre planned it ahead of time. Tanya asked nancy if she would do a shoot with a male model, but she originally refused.... After she had taken several single shots and had nearly completed the soft photos, that's when tanya asked her again if she would sit with one of her male models.
Tanya is making her move. Set the wife up, destroy the relationship, now there's an opportunity. I've met women like her before. Very dangerous.
You forget, Tanya is 60 something. You think a 30 yr old man will fall for that dinosaur?
That's cheating. Op is a poor fool.
Guy is the king of doormats
He just told her that this boundary crossed and forgiven means it’s not a boundary.
She will now look for the next one to check if he will forgive
My man got completely bamboozled, one day he'll stop being a doormat probably when he finds out shes been cheating
She put it off, refused to talk to you, and felt shame because she KNEW IT WAS WRONG. This will obviously happen again.
The furthest distance between any two numbers, is 0 and 1
Looks like he convinced himself, and his low self-esteem played a major part in his decision.
Nancy isn't upset at what she did, she's upset it got exposed. It would have taken her .05 seconds to say "No, Im not confortable doing that!" or gotten up andcleft when pressed. Sadly this isn't the last we'll be hearing from this guy. The next one will be the drunken girls weekend with Tanya and her other friends.
dna test the kid
She’s lying…… I wonder if she would have ever told him…
This is a very common story on all these channels, TBH keeping it a secret is much worse then doing the photoshoot. OP needs more self respect, the wife needs to get better at enforcing her boundaries and she should have fessed up without confrontation, and the photographer needs to get better at not pushing boundaries. Overall the worst person in this story is the wife because she is ultimately more responsible for the health of her marriage then her friend, and she should have drawn a hard line in the sand or called and told the OP to ask if he was okay with it. There are a lot of charasmatic smooth talkers and boundary pushers in the world, and people who lack the ability to enforce boundaries will be on the fast track to destroying their marriage. if you can say "I do" you can say "no". There is no excuse.
The only thing I disagree with is OP thinking he's obligated to make his wife feel better. No fam, it's the other way around.
Indeed, he is the victim and does not know it.
Renaming 1000 photos is easy compared to getting divorced
Definitely super easy technology to help with that too...OP is a very stupid man.
And having your prestigious photography company publicly dragged through the mud because you pressured a repeat customer into a softcorn shoot.
Tanya had much to lose herself, let’s not forget that.
What about the metadata?
And the gf of the guy being present?
And the history the gf and the dude have of doing this professionaly?
She doesn't have the time.
She felt “soooooo guilty” Bullshit. She cheated. Now she’s covering up
Ah yes, a recent 30 year old wife that just lost weight desperate for attention / validation. Classic.
Tanya _really_ needs to respect personal boundaries. No means no.
I really doubt that is the truth and its the alcohol or tanya, that is the story they came up with after a day of not talking to op, pushing all the blame being drunk and her friend while only admitting to the things with evidence. trickletruthing
they most likely did more and she was on it from the beginning. lied while talking to op "yeah its not going to be nude, fully clothed and only me" and lied afterwards "yeah there was nothing, these are all the photos" before the accident
Yup, SHE's the bad person in this sorry tale, the wife and husband are ulimately victims.
@@gordowg1wg145 I doubt it. much more likely that is the story they came up with after not contacting op and talking to each other for a whole day. push the blame to alcohol and tanya while only admitting to the things with evidence.
they likely did more and wife was on it from the beginning. lied while talking to op "yeah its going to be fully clothed and only me and her" and lied afterwards "yeah there was nothing, these are all the photos" can you really trust the word of a liar who kept it secret for 6 WEEKS before getting exposed?
@@gordowg1wg145 doubt it, she is a liar who found a cover up story pushing all the blame. much more likely that is the story they came up with after not contacting op and talking to each other for a whole day. push the blame to alcohol and tanya while only admitting to the things with evidence.
@@gordowg1wg145 they much more likely did more and wife was on it from the beginning. lied while talking to op "yeah its going to be fully clothed and only me and her" and lied afterwards "yeah there was nothing, these are all the photos" can you really trust the word of a liar who kept it secret for 6 WEEKS before getting exposed?
Lol, this poor fool, OP. She probably had been cheating on him. The amazing bedroom activity increased because she had a big turn on from this event. So he shouldn't trust her words at all. Tanya may have facilitated this cheating or may have let her cheat. Either way, the wife could have stop at any point, which she didn't.
As any longterm husband will tell you, If you wanna get your wife turned on, take her to a movie with an action star in it.... You know how many husbands got laid after they took their wives to see twisters? 😂
Poor guy, probably gonna be a great Dad though.
Sees compromising pictures. Doesn't record evidence... "Wife, wife, what are these pictures?"
Complains about how he can't log in to see them any more.
Gets told an obv fake story. "Yay, everything's OK now!"
You can see how OP is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
OP is extremely stupid. Didn't even think to screenshot the photos...
Yea and bro said he isn't a party killer and he is happy because she's having fun going skin to skin with another man 🤣 like bro wth??
DNA test, kid likely not his.
true
You should both have your children tested if/when you have them.
Yup
@@Hey_OverHere
Idiot - but if you have kids, might be worth you checking, as seems like you'd not be the best DNA source.
@@gordowg1wg145 Both?
What a doormat. Confronts her and accepts every excuse and story she comes up with. Confidently believe that he verifies all the evidence himself despite everyone else involved having days to the data without him.
That part where she asked OP to go pick her up some food after he found out you were taking provocative photos with some strange guy and ignored his calls & messages is wild to me, Seriously!, you may not have a husband anymore and you asked that 😂. Lets be clear she hid this for weeks, i have severe trust issues because im like if you hide something like that what else you're hiding. If he wants to take her back that's up to him and it's his marriage but she hid this from him for awhile I don't think she would ever tell him and she knows it, but the moment she called and asked him to pick up some food which i believed he should've said No, she disrespected him & his boundaries, hid the truth, ignore all communication until she comes up with a story, she don't deserve anything after that. She knew what she was doing, she should've said No to doing that shoot with that Man, she crossed a boundary she knows he's supposed to drop her.
If you wanna forgive her she needs to dump that so called friend of her that did the photo shoot , if you ask me she did it on purpose and wanted her to cheat and on purpose sent the pictures to her husband, a lot of women will sabotage another friends life when they are jealous and want to see some drama , if it was a real friend she would have never pushed her to make those pictures
If I can't reach wife while wife can be contacted by photographer, I consider both their versions of the truth compromised. Then wife gets downgraded on trust, forever. All the rest can be debatable. Good for him to find a way to better himself, making lemonade from lemons.
14.53 takes 10 seconds to rename on a computer, ten minutes to sort the last 50 or so photos and delete the ones she looks happy on. either wa, he needs to keep an eye now
Cannot believe this Smp/Doormate blamed himself at the end! What has become of men these days?!
result of demonizing men and healty male traits and the feminist programing of females to hate and emasculate their sons
this guy is the result
You know they would've kept everything a secret if the friend didn't send those pictures.. op is a fool
Jesus dude….have some self respect.
OP needs to think this through. I understand that he doesn't want to break up his family and wants to go back to how things were with trusting his wife, but that ship has sailed.
The photographer said i messed up, wife said hes going to be angry and worried he would divorce her. She was worried about what he may have seen, said that she felt uncomfortable doing the shoot with that man, but if she can do that in the spir of the moment then cheating is just one step. She was worried that he could copy the pics. She asked for him to be blocked from access. They both worked on the story to say and added reasons for delays.
His wife was fine with hiding the truth and not concerned because her husband would never find her separate picture stash.
OP explains that his wife looked uncomfortable in the shoot, but then says that the shoots theme was corporate woman giving into her desires of being seduction by a younger man, therefore she would have an uncomfortable expression that leads to letting go and enjoying the moment (seems she's a good actress).
This all seems to point to that his wife is happy to lie and manipulate the situation as needed. She doesn't sexually desire OP as her partner. This kind of activity only 13 months after giving birth is suspect, they were drinking while doing the shoot, she is seeking attention already, gets caught up in the moment. Unfortunately, she is likely to cheat, if she hasn't done so yet. I would have done a paternity test and drawn up a post nuptial agreement as a minimum. But, I would have left just from the deception, cover up, and collusion, because that would mean that I was not someone she trusts and shares her true self with. The model and models girlfriend saw her fully naked and did soft porn, her friend recorded it and helped hide it, but OP was to not know?
OP doesn't know his wife
The questions that he didn't ask her directly were, "Why did you hide this from me in the first place?", and "Would you have told me if I hadn't found out?" 🤔
She cheated 100% time to dump her.
All the people here saying hes a doormat and that he got fooled.
The seeds of doubt have already been sown and, eventually, she will need to reap them.
OP may have gotten fooled, but either way now he will always have that little seed of doubt just waiting for one wrong move, one hushed phone call or a night with "the girls" where she wears just a little too much makeup for that seed to get watered and then shit will REALLY hit the fan
What I find interesting is how during the shoot, she had the frame of mind to keep asking herself, "What would my husband think?" But never once thought to actually ask him.
She could've put the whole thing on pause and said, "Hey, I thought I should tell you that Tanya wanted me to do a few practice shoots with a male model. Yeah, it's still boudoir stuff. Yeah, it's pretty intimate. No, he'll be in his underwear the whole time."
Then he could've said, "Yeah, do what you want." Or "No I'm not comfortable with that." Or, "Okay, but on these conditions." Or, "Can you do this another time? I need to think about this."
When you're in a committed, monogamous relationship with another person, you have to understand what their boundaries are and respect them, and while I understand that it can be easier to just guess, sometimes leaving it at guesswork can't be forgiven, and asking upfront is always the best course of action.
The wife is comfortable doing the shoot because she hid it for 3 weeks. If the husband did not find out about it, she may do it again and could even lead to full porn.
She's already maybe on some adult sites😢
There should have been more consequences for the wife being so blatantly disrespectful. I don’t believe for a second the husband would have ever been told about it or gotten the nudes as an X-Mas gift.
Its amazing how his wife says she'll do whatever it takes to fix this but would not do what ever it takes to avoid the whole thing in the first place like walking out on this puke photographer who was already told no a week before about the guy posing with her.
So much for Tanya being a professional…
The photographer and wife disrespected and lied to the poor guy before, during and after the photo shoot. Terrible behavior toward a guy that is obviously being taken completely for granted by both of them.
She had way too much time for a story and Tanya had a lot of time to change up stuff. The fact he's getting upset at people who don't placate his need to know everything is alright is telling.
You're married, it isn't just her phone, it's your phone too. If any man or woman denies you access to any part of their life, that's red flag ^100000000.
Im convinced that most people here dont know enough about photoshoots to realise that if you remove photos from a folder, the files will quite literally show that when the sequence goes 203, 204, 206, 209 and so on, to modify that you would have to go through the files, remove every single photo that was undesirable, individually change every single file numeration starting at the first photo you removed to the end of the shoot (which op said was around 1000) and this would've had to have been done after getting their story straught to endure it matches, i've had to manage the files of my company and that shit takes far longer than it should and god forbid you make a typo.
Also by the way for those still thinking op got played with a lie, that means that they had to at some point have gone back, taken more photos with both op's wife and the model with her looking increibly genuine in her discomfort and then upload them and remodify the sequence from the first spliced in photo to the end AGAIN all without op noticing his wife being back there; they would also have to communicate all of this on another phone with some premonition that op would check it.
After all that had worked out op's wife would then have to fake all of her emotions, and remorse is not something most people can fake then somehow for op's wife to suggest going to marriage counselling knowing damn well if anyone will catch a lie or a slip up that it'd be them because she for some reason thinks adding that massive risk of being caught out is somehow worth it.
Take it from someone that used to have to loe for their own safety, liars dont make lying unnecessarily harder; keeping your own story straight for long enough for it to become an automatic thought like the truth otherwise would be is challenge enough.
Really surprised that op stuck with her, believing her or not, at the end of the day his wife's actions have caused self doubt, trust issues, heavy stress, violated boundaries and proved a communication problem; thats more than enough valid reasons for people to bail; i hope staying is worth it for him
Hey, i'm just glad you came through and had some actual details on the photo shoot. I agree with you that there's a trust issue here. But it can be overcome with some therapy and talking about it... The biggest issue here is communication and the fact that nancy was afraid to talk to her husband about it shows that, after the fact, she felt really guilty... She should have come clean and the fact, that she felt that she couldn't talk to her husband is a bit of a red flag.... But it's a very common red flag in almost every marriage I've ever seen.
You know there is softwares out there that automatically rename files based on rules you set? You can even change metadata of the files with software especially on windows. I've used them to rename pictures, TV shows, etc; it is very easy to do so and a huge time saver.
@nmajidbm that's alot of effort though and they didn't really have time for that. Don't be so cynical
@@a.murdoch5446 I was commenting on the possibility of changing the names manually or using a software to do it and not on the video itself. It isn't much effort though, there are free softwares and adding and changing the file names is super easy and fast. (check Advanced File Renamer)
Dude divorce that Jezebel!
Maybe it's because I've been through cheating before, but I keep coming up with ways I would take the conversation. "Don't make any rash decisions about leaving me!" Okay, I promise that any decision I make to leave you will not be a rash one. Boy, I sure I'm glad I've had slightly more time to think about this situation than you or Tanya had. "Tanya called me and said she screwed up and accidentally sent those other photos to you!" Really?! THAT was the screw up? THAT'S what you two think the screw up here is?
Plus the whole thing about talk being cheap. All your words, and (much more importantly) lack thereof for weeks and then days after the "leak" are hugely overshadowed by the actual observed behavior. The fact that after confrontation, OP had his access to the private site immediately revoked also speaks volumes - there wasn't a confused "what about them?" from Tanya or any discussion about potential misunderstandings - locked out and radio silence instead. Yeah, telling me to my face you were trying to lie to me isn't as big of a confession as that was.
Good thoughts
Wife wasn’t telling truth, so much time to fix the evidence. Programs can quickly rename files. Poor trusting guy.
Why do these women always suggest counseling after they stray?
If she did this, she does not respect her husband.
She only respects the security he brings.
Would she be ok if he started feeling up a hot young girl (hey it’s for a photo shoot - so it’s not cheating, so should be ok - right)
When she would call back I would have left a message with her and her family that she has an hour to call back or we are getting a divorce. Poor simp dude got played.
This one is easy. If a guy chooses to date an actress/model from the get-go, he is accepting these kinds of situational photo sessions.
This is a completely different story. This is not her work, and she shouldn't have let the photographer convince her of the couple's shooting before talking to her husband.
She knew it was wrong, that is why she lied about it. She also knows he is weak and a coward, and would never leave her, even if she cheated on him. Some guys are meant to be cheated.
So OP thinks because its "professional" it was ok from his wife to break boundaries and have a softcore photoshoot. Tomorrow his wife is going to become a professional sex worker and OP is going to be like, "so long as it's professional I see no problem". Also, Tanya is a horrible friend and is borderline predatory. Nancy already told her she wasn't down for a shoot with another guy but the day of, after easing her into it, she asked the question and then got her on some wine to loosen her up. That's not a friend of the couple because that friend was only looking out for herself. A good friend would be like, "you sure your husband is going to be cool with this"?".
I can understand why OP rug swept though. He admitted that his ego was hit and had low self-esteem. He also admitted that his wife has gotten into shape and is now hot. Men, whose self-worth is tied to being married to a hot woman, usually have the hardest time enforcing boundaries. They will make all the excuses and blame themselves if they have to keep the fantasy alive.
OP is a fool just wait for the next time it will be more serious because she has lost all respect for you
Question: why was this photo session even necessary? I know I wouldn't be able to function normally after finding out about something like that. I mean, everytime I'd get intimate with her, she would be probably picturing the guy in her head. Thoughts just pop in one's mind. You can't control. The idea of that happening would be devastating.
She is cheating on you.
The wife should have been upfront. Tanya shouldn't have got a guy in the shoot.
The villain here is "Tanya".
I wouldn't be surprised if she had it in mind to do what she could to bring the guy in, despite the wife already saying "no", as she finally did.
As it is, I can easily see how the wife got a bit carried away with the fun of the shoot and, especially after a few "wines", agreed to pose with the guy, even if reluctantly.
Everything she said agrees with the evidence and I see no reason to doubt it was the truth.
That said, if it was a true story, and i were in that situation, I'd forgive her on the understanding that I might bring it up to tease her, sometimes, and I'd give here the most physical f*** session I could manage as I took out my residual feelings on her body.
Yes, it's easy to lose fitness and put on weight, much harder to lose it - but definitely worth the benefits.
If I can't reach wife while wife can be contacted by photographer, I consider both their versions of the truth compromised. you cant really trust a liar who lied for 6 weeks and went on 24 hour no contact to prepare an explanation & "evidence"
@@yourgrandpa2539
You sure do seem like a controlling freak - I feel sorry for any woman who ended up with you.
Are you suggesting you've NEVER found yourself in a situation where you ended up doing something you had no intention of doing, that you knew would cause all sorts of issues, and that you tried to pretend never happened?
If so, I suggest you've either got a selective memory, or are lying to yourself.
How come Guys like him who has morals and ethics of his own forget about having self respect and even though he is literally seeing that it was a softcore he is trying to turn a blind eye to the fact.
I am sure there's gonna be either a future post "I should have divorced her earlier" or this woman deceiving him for his entire life and probably even making him take care of another man's child
"Did it go further than that? No." How can you believe that?
If the girlfriend was there and she was willing to step in and these were TEST shots why didn't he just use the girlfriend and not the man's wife?
Did he actually look at the Date/Time stamps for each file....that's more telling than what she put for a file name, she easily could have faked the date/time for each file with the time she had as others have said but it's harder to manipulate an actual file time & date stamp, also even more telling would be to look at the file metadata as that would be much harder to manipulate unless she set the time and date on the camera back to the original time & dates and retook them....he clearly missed his opportunity to properly investigate.
There could be even more pics saved somewhere else of more overt raunchy stuff she did.
So basically you're kool with your wife cheating
This OP deserves this for being such a door mat
Every woman can cheat whenever they want. If they give you a reason to think they could be cheating, they likely are. Those cringe pics dont prove anything. She could just as well been afraid of proof being created that could lead to an investigation of her cheating.
Leave her
If she was uncomfortable about getting nude with another guy, she wouldn't have done it. She'd be looking at a divorce, and the photographer would be getting sued.
Something isnt right.
If she felt uncomfortable with the way the pics were, why was her libido higher in that time after the shoot?
HotAbsMcCool fantasies. She was uncomfortable in the moment, during the shoot, had to worry about being found out, but afterwards, when she has ZERO consequences, and her subconscious is free from worry, hey, let the freak flag fly.
Love-bombing. Women very often love-bomb their husband after cheating as a way to ease their guilt and dampen any suspicions he may have.
where is the original post (the link to it)
The wife got carried away in the moment, but I'd never trust the photographer again, ever.
Wife: "Hey honey, just calling you because Tanya wants to bring in a male model to practice couple's shoots. Some of the photos might get really racy. Are you comfortable with that?"
OP: "Nah."
Wife: "Ok, I'll tell her I'm done. Can you pick me up some Jimmy Johns cause I'm on my way home?"
OP: "No problem. See you soon."
*It's that simple.*
Goodbye wife
Throughout the story all I've learned is that Tanya is basically a grape photographer. Pressuring the woman and having her drink alcohol until she agrees to stuff she's obviously not okay with.
Then again, dude's a doormat.
Haha wtf. I get physically ill imagining that my girlfriend did that to me
Tanya needs to hear from his layer
Guy is a doormat
This dude's reddit account was suspended. Did he have a meltdown or something?
Remember she said "Not you" to the i screwed up statement
Doormats gonna doormat, I guess.
That's why you always collect your proof and THAN go mental!
By that, i mean, save the pics and then ask Tayna, "What the hell, grannie?".
ALWAYS INVESTIGATE BEFORE YOU CONFRONT A CHEATING HOOR.
He got duped/played.
She cheated and now wife down play it all
You can't trust anyone... ANYONE. That's the biggest take away from these stories
Wow this dude needs a divorce
So the photographer refuses to answer his calls just as the wife so they can get their story straight and then they answer him? Why should he believe anything now that they had time to set their story straight? They could easily have paid the male model and his gf to give the correct answer. There is no way to know if the naughty ones were faked.
Also tell her that you were not the one that lied, you did not need to get any story correct, you did not cuddle up to some dude, she needs to go and work on it. Alone. Like she did the shoot.
Seems the op and wife both needs solo counceling.
Candidate for doormat of the year
This guy is clueless
I believe her when she said nothing happened. But she did lie, and tried to cover it up. I say the marriage isn't beyond recovery, and yes, if your wife is hot and you are a fat ass, do something about it or it will be over.
This was a lost genre story from about 18 months ago. Altered, i commented on that story, yes i agree its cheating esp the secrecy and what aren't they telling,
Can you tell here what's the difference of the Original version that you've read to this reddit/youtube version?
@@SuperStrongAlien yes, I thought lost genre did it better
Dude should ask for a photo session with Abs McCool's GF
I would be really really bothered if I were you. ATST I can imagine too how she could enjoy the shoot with no interest in infidelity. You might consider some counselling. I'd find it hard to just let that go but I'd guess she learned a lesson.
The lesson for everyone is don't engage in ANYTHING with a member of the opposite sex that you aren't perfectly happy for your partner or spouse to know about.
I’ve never seen a photographer use more than one camera either, different photo numbers and sequence
Poor guy, what a chump
Nah if my wife is naked with another man im out i dont care about the excuses. Its not the photographers fault its my wifes fault
What about the other cameras you haven't seen
I mean to be fair unless the wife was a virgin, when they first got together, some other man has already touched that woman's breasts and probably done more with her... However, it is a little weird based on the marriage contract... On the plus side, it sounds like the wife does feel really remorseful. It sounds a lot like she did something that was very impulsive. However, it was done semi professionally. Anyone who knows what happens behind the scenes of actual softcore porn or hardcore, for that matter, knows that there's nothing sexual about it.... If you wanna be turned off of porn for good, just find out what happens behind the scenes. It is so boring