THE SERAPHINE REWORK IS HERE! SHE'S EVEN STRONGER NOW? (WHAT HAS RIOT DONE)
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- THE SERAPHINE REWORK IS HERE! SHE'S EVEN STRONGER NOW? (WHAT HAS RIOT DONE)
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A Fizz player calling Seraphine toxic is the funniest joke I’ve ever seen. Hero has a built in zhonyas he can move with
For real ahaha
On 4 sec cd too
Is fizz classified as furry? 😂
Technically, he said "there is one toxic champ mid". Doesn't necessarily mean Seraphine. Fizz is pretty toxic.
@@yablock0 maybe he meant viego
"Oh, I don't have ignite"
Fizz: "Here, take mine"
Fizz... a champ with far more damage then it should for how safe his kit is. 2 dashes where one makes you unhitable and you can still choose where to go... basically hourglass 2.5.
He also gets countered by serraphine unless he's offensive that's this one's mistake I believe quote me if I'm wrong
Ps 69th like
@@thaddeushill7080how would he get countered by her? He can easily dodge her team-fight-winning ability and then one shot her. Due to her basically being Sona 2.0, I don't see how she really counters anyone, outside of being ranged into melee and therefore being able to auto for free poke.
@@Movienut1992 Ah, but you see, dodging is a _defensive_ maneuver, even _if_ it's used offensively.
That means that Fizz players have to turn on their _brains_ when facing Seraphine, and we can't have that.
@@LucanVarisas a fizz main i can assure you - seraph gets clapped as easy as any other
the way Neeko just said at 22:37 "Slay Sera" just got me rolling around in laughter) She was IMPRESSED
I'm really happy I was introduced to your channel, you taught me a few new moves to try to play with) not htat I will be as great as you, but that's still a nice change) Thank you, master Zwag)
О, и русские тоже смотрят этот канал)
People can get so toxic for no reason. I was playing Sona in a normal game while doing the Jack Of All Champs challenge and my adc kept going in and dying and then put the blame on me for "not doing anything" when my abilities were on cooldown and calling me a Sona main. So when Zwag says "I'm just trying to play Seraphine" I feel it lol.
you have no idea how many times it has happened to me that the jungle or the ADC jump into 1v3 fights againts fed enemies, I support them as much as I can literally throwing all my spells (and land them) and they still act as if I didn't do anything when they are losing and keep fighting. I don't understand what they think we are playing, but there is a thing called cooldown on the abilities.
@LAM1895 Do you know the guy with in-game name of "Frost1988"?
@@BigWilldo I had a time when I was playing Shyvana in the jungle, the mid and sup entered the jungle where we just saw the enemies walk into, started a fight quickly started to lose it and seeing that I would just die too, I stayed in lane and clested the minions to also preoare my ult. My ult was at 90 something, still not usable, and for some reason the sup pinged my ult and it even said it was ready when it wasn't full yet. Not only people seem to not have a notion of cooldowns being a thing but they don't even seem to understand the simplest mechanic behind some champions apparently
Lel feel ya. Dwbi an find some friendly teammates or guildies to play with an ya will do fine
@@BigWilldodon't mind those people 😂 they're the typical league players , their brain is deep fried
I felt sorry for neeko she was being so nice and you ignored her xd
It's like real life parasocial relationship with an idol. 💀
Wait where did he ignore her?
@@waleedalarmanazi159 Neeko stood up for him when Fizz "bullied" in chat and also when he owned, Neeko dropped a "slay Seraphine" as a "hype".
Zwag expertly dodged it :D
@@MrEagorath i see 🤣
@@MGZettashe was just being friendly wtf r u on abt
“Did Zwag get the first 6 CS?”
Yes, he got all 6!!!
Win Streak: 3
Hi, Hi, Hellooooooo 🧶
And a chicken-
And bullied fizz
@@thaddeushill7080 fizz players deserve it
@@alvaromaicas7039 hi!
Fizz just presses R in someone’s general direction, and if that doesnt kill, he Qs. If that doesn’t kill, he zhonya-jumps over a wall. If he lands on your head with the zhonyas, he presses W too. If that doesn’t kill, he’s at least 7k gold down (which doesn’t happen).
As a main seraphine, I'm so happy you brought her to your channel. Want to see more one day.
I bet you scissor dudes
@@Tibliousi bet you scissor yordles
@@Tiblious fizz?
@@Tiblious I bet you're an Aatrox main
Why would they make her passive the way it is if they didn't want her off-mid or adc??
They wanted her to be a mid but a bunch of silver players are seraphine supp players so they decided to make her mid apc worse just for the people who try forcing her into her worst role
@@pyrrhicpersephone2679 They released her as a mid but soon realized that her waveclear and team contribution are way too broken so they wanted to move her to support. Nobody plays Seraph mid in silver, they just play Yasuo and Akali. But that's why, because she's way too strong as an apc, so they forced her to change roles.
@@pyrrhicpersephone2679 wait until you guys realize who they actually change champs for >.>
@@pyrrhicpersephone2679 Just wanted to say that even on Master rank she still has a higher pick rate as support than mid and bot lane. And mid lane is by far her least picked role even on grandmaster and challenger.
Yes!! Seraphine main here, only been playing since August, but I'm happy to see her on the channel!! I will admit, I had like, 3 instances where I was yelling to use R, but I'm not the professional gamer here. I look forward to more videos!!
Riot wanting seraphine more into a support.
Also riot proceeding to nerf the one thing that makes a support.
Enchanter items would make her heal stronger so maybe that is the plan riot was going for
22:43 girl bye the way lux shot that lazer and you ended up getting more health is killing me 😭😭
It still hurts that riot made her seem like a mid laner when she was released but refuse to let be one. She’s so fun to play and I love long range poke mages. I just wish she was a viable mid
She is very, very viable though. She is basically a control mage with bonus utility
@@MetteMeers She can safely wave clear, that's it. In any higher elo than bronze she will be outclassed by almost every traditional mage and definitely every assassin.
@Racmaster00 you are wrong but it's fine. Don't play yourself 😘
@@MetteMeers I can tell you're definitely mentally competent to have a normal conversation. She sucks mid and you're in low elo. Play her in higher than Gold and you'll be destroyed. The only way to do well in lane is to push the wave and back off, she won't win a trade. You are actually wrong, but Iron players never see how poorly they play
@Racmaster00 oh attacking because you feel slighted by a comment? Petty dog. She is good, it's obviously your skill issue. Stay pressed. 😘
Zwags needs a compilation of all the mental boom he manages to get xD
He was talking about it a few videos ago. Compile all too short games into one video.
She was designed to be a mid laner... so i dont get why riot wants to push her into the support role.. Makes me mad!
Riot is dumb in that regard anyways. If they design a midlaner why the fuck does that champ has a spell that can aoe shield, heal and speed up allies at the same time and expect the players not play her on botlane? Basicly half of Sona`s abilities in just 1 empowered spell. If they wanted her to be played on midlane then they should get rid of the current W and give her something completely different. Maybe in addition higher mana costs, higher cd on every spell to prevent spamming but to compensate, buff her AP scalings maybe ~70-80% ap ratios. It is just that simple.
@@AlExAnDeR30285we are talking about riot here ,they gave kayle heal/speed on her W ,she is hyper carry 😂😂
@@overlordXsIt's kinda hilarious that Kayle used to be a support when she first released
cuz a lot of people are playing her support.
I totally agree. I love playing her mid and I have her as a support. If they force her into support I’m gonna be so disappointed.
I love the care free attitude this game, makes it seem much more playful and fun. "Lol this viego is camping" "lol the neeko missed everything that's fine haha"
hey zwag im fairly new to your channel you always seem to make every character you play seem so easy. i’ve been going through a lot in life and was at my lowest but your videos never fail to brighten my day! although i suck at league you never fail to entertain me ❤️ wish you nothing but success!
I felt so excited seeing this thumbnail on my feed!! I'm Seraphine main and absolutely loved seeing you playing her, I thought u didn't play her bc she's mainly used as support and didn't like her or something, glad to see that's not the case. I love playing her as support 🤭
So because of you my APC got nerfed...
@@gabrielgomessilva484literally 💔
@@gabrielgomessilva484 no, she was played as support because her design is catered on to a feminine playerbase despite being supposed to be a supportive mid-laner (which are mostly support players)
Legend says that Viego is still around mid, waiting to avenge his chickens.
"Sorry for your brain Seraphine", said Fizz
I love when zwag plays the "girly" champs 😂
I kinda dislike the changes for seraphine because if you don’t get fed early, the Q damage was gutted so it’s still gonna be a noticeable drop when you don’t have the missing health and you keep consistently throwing out Qs. Of course, that doesn’t matter if you’re Zwag and get fed anyway 😂
Q damage is down from 266 AP onwards but higher before then.
Not what most people max (most people max q,w,e) but she can do more damage if you max e second till 467 AP if you hit your full combo. (lowered to 400 AP if you hit 3 Q's)
God I feel bad for red jungle. Looses big chicken then dies at red. Not good time.
Why does Riot hate supports scaling well??? (Except for a feewww, like Senna and Thresh)
this is crazy, i was thinking TODAY ‘hmm zwag hasn’t played seraphine in a while’ then u upload this
Got a laugh out of the play at 22:40 -- Lux decided to go for a kill on Zwag while he was shit-talking the Fizz
Its so satisfying seeing u play my girll
that sounds so wrong
@@MGZetta chill buddy.
I think Riot had an intent of nerfing the over-used Liandry's build that people were using on Seraphine. Now there is a build that is even better, which also takes advantage of First Strike.
Not approving of Riot "supportifying" my champ by reducing AP ratios, but the base damage increase on Q and E should make Sera's ridiculous waveclear even better.
Anyways, here is the build that I have been using:
Runes: First Strike, Boots, Biscuits, Approach Velocity, Absolute, Gathering, + AP (x2).
Items:
* Night Harvester - Now, this is not a typical item for Seraphine, but her easy to hit abilities synergizes well with the extra poke from this item.
* Lich Bane - A given, considering how much Seraphine loves spamming abilities.
* Seraph's Embrace - Mana, lots of mana, and the shield which helps a lot.
* Deathcap - Need some AP for the on-cast items as well as the little extra damage.
* 6th item could usually be one of these: Void Staff, Banshee's or Hourglass
idk what riot is doing. They can't decide if they want her to be a mid laner or a support.
@@paulandersbullecer3152 I think she would work much better as a mage, especially if Riot were to give her better AP ratios on Q and R
i feel like switching DC for Cosmic drive. she does well with a lot of haste.
@@dibel3669 True, but that is where the Harvester comes into play, as it gives a lot of haste
There is this feeling of something very calm while watching your videos(I think it's your passive voice). It's truly amazing. Keep posting more videos. Its Peaceful, brother.
They're trying to push her more support AND mid, while taking power away from her as a botlane/adc replacement. These changes should actually help her mid a bit
I wonder if sera can do like sona shotgun build....like zwag do shotgun sona i had a feeling sera can do too
This champ is so weird (the taunt is priceless, tho)... Do you know what is even more weird? The following Sett build! :D
Quickblades, Kraken Slayer, Stormrazor, Phantom Dancer, Cringebow and Berserker's. The idea is to auto attack as much as possible in order to Q as much as possible (which would be empowered by Quickblades). I have no idea which runes would go well with this, but I'm sure that the 100% crit rate should be fun to have. If you think there is too much attack speed, you can always switch some items for other crit items that don't give attack speed. Not a mathematically efficient build, I'm sure, but it can be a mathematically fun one!
Here for the heartsteel kindred top girl
FINALLY been asking for SERA Mid for 6 months!
Bro i just picked up vex in mid lane shes actually hella strong and alot of fun with her 1 shot capabilities can u do a mad dog vid! From ya viewer down under in aussie land!! 🎉
Never been that early... Well Good Night fellas :DDD Zwag cured my sleeping disorder :'DD
Hahahaha I was laughing so hard at that Viego since the moment you took his chicken
The loss of healing is very noticeable, the damage less so. The e feels stronger, the q about the same. Maybe as little less very late.
phreak has stated on screen that the changes to seraphine where mean to be a buff or at least power neutral midlane. A buff for support and a nerf for apc botlane seraphine.
I have not played league for the past couple of months but seeing my ye olde mains being played makes me wanna hop into it again haha
In Lol Wild Rift something similar happened with Lux, they made changes to her that people thought were going to ruin her and she ended up even more broken.
First time I see a war starting over a chicken...
9:35 i laughed way too hard at that 💀
League really is unique, the biggest enemies arr not the enemy team but your own teammates.
I once had a malicious tagteam on the enemy team who really tried everything to hurt me when I started playing League, but this was only once. Since then most of the negative chat experiences happened on my own team, not just frustrated players who are fed up with loosing and overly criticize your mistakes, there were actually duos and teams of 3 or 4 who actively bully you and try to mentally hurt you for some unknown reason. It's really bizarre sometimes.
a fizz player calling a seraphine player toxic is like the pot calling the kettle black
There's 2 toxic champs mid actually. However only one has moving zhonyas and can also shit damage with immense mobility, and the other one is Seraphine.
I thought you were going to say the other one is Viego
@@babahabat viego is eh imo. He's a hyper carry so don't give him any lead early. Seraphine and Fizz are just aids, Fizz moreso
I had a game today, literally half of laning phase their blitzcrank and lillia were mid. I also had a garen and Darius bot. Those were fun times :)))
20:00 why did you give them a free kill and bounty??
Day 26 of asking for full ap Tryndamere
that fizz was hilariously sad omg
Is so funny when the rival jungle just have a rage cry all cause you're stealth 1 minion Xd
This entire enemy team has issues lol Fizz losing his mind raging at a mirror and Lux missing every skill but acting like she doing all the dmg and while carrying.
Would love to see Max movement speed Skarner! See how far you can drag someone! Day 23
I think ioki did this a few times, where he basically would gank and just drag them into tower every time.
You gotta try Seraphine and Lissandra in a lane togtogether. It's beyond fun. CC for days
I would like to see an On-hit Traic. Keep up the great work. Day 67
zwag: "well i wanted a 25 minute game, but guess i got a 40minute one" Ends game at 25:57....
not sure if anyone is aware of this there is a fun synergy with rylas and saraphine e where it roots with one hit
not playing league anymore but just a quick question, wasn't sera designed to play mid? Like at one point they Inc her dmg dealt to minions or smthn so that's she's not as viable as supp???
never steal a mans chickens lol
That viego had a vendetta against you lol
FINALLY ZWAG PLAYING MY MAIN 😭😭😭 thx zwag i love u. i spend the time i should be studying on watching your videos. istg u are d best
Missing first hurt gold absolutely hurt my soul as a top laner
Zwag, there's a sort of sona like seraphine build. Where you build up a big auto, I always wondered if you were gonna try it considering you patented sona build
Shotgun Sona is probably as old as Sona herself (2010).
It has been around since the early days of League. The strongest iteration of the build was present in Season 3, when Sona had higher AP scaling (70% on Q, 80% on R). Lich Bane also had a 75% AP scaling at the time. The damage potential from a single burst was incredible for such a short cooldown cycle (around 3000 pre-mitigation damage at 1000 AP)
@Skarfar90 yea, I have seen a similar build for seraphine. This is what I was suggesting, but I have not worded it well
My understanding is that Riot wanted her to be viable in mid and as a bot carry, but people kept playing her mostly as a support anyway. Turns out most mid laners and adcs don't want to play her while support players do, even though support is her weakest role.
They should just make her a support main.
When I still played I always played either Ahri or Sera mid. She always felt great in mid and i hope they don't take away her ability to stay in mid
@@snowfellwolf8280 like Morgana, she was born midlane but shifted support after pro players started to use her there. She doesn't even appear in mid champions anymore while she's still strong
Depends... My Mate plays Heimer as ADC... His Heimer ADC with my Sera Support dominates every Bot Lane. They cant get out of their tower bc they get Seraphine E'd In the middle of Heimers Turrets.
nah she doesnt fit in sup@@MGZetta
1:04 says Ahri so confidently
I just want to say i watch your videos for long time. And its my time to Stay quiet moment. Very entretening thank you very much😊😊😊
I know fish live in sea water bot... GOD DAMN was that Fizz salty
[WHAT IF] the Seraphine with Muramana, Quickblade, Shiv and some crit/attack speed staff?
Like the AD Janna we used to have
That fizz was ultramad
I thought Seraphine was designed for mid. So it doesn’t make sense they want to relegate her to support exclusively
Man, he really took that chicken personally.
Riot: Stop comparing Seraphine to Sona
Also Riot: Let's force Seraphine and Sona into the exact same role
bro that neeko flop....that hurt my soul
Zwag what are your favorite keyboard switches?
*Seraphine existing*
Fizz: you are toxic
This is hilarious, someone’s mad and it’s obvious xD
“We have a game on our hands now”
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Clicking to see only a 1/5th of the video is left😢
The chicken was too salty 🐔
imagine if she can farm jungle, the red jungle pet make her E instant root.
10:30 was a missed opportunity to reply 'uwu'
The fizz is crying like he doesn't have one of the most broken mechanics in game
To be fair zwag, if someone took my kfc I’d be pretty pissed.
Man I feel bad for that volibear that teleported in and got hung out to dry.
Where are you streaming???
Thanks for the great vid Zwag!
Jarvan not buying items till minute 18 is wild
i love seeing enemy team mental break down.
I bet he keeps ganking mid because of the chickens lol
It bothers me so much that they want her to be a support champion. She is so much more fun as a mid/apc.
Yes! I hate that they are trying to move her into support!
day 57 asking for full ap mordekaiser
Yees
17:51 "Sorry for your brain Seraphine" while an assassin get wrecked because he knew shit how to trade in combat.
20:15 Mundo and the stonks!
Zwag show me tank yummi, your team never dies
Finally a seraphine vid ^^
He says Riot wants her out of mid and my only thoughts are: But they wanted her out of Bot when they released her, wtf ?!
fizz calling sera toxic is crazy
Viego really took that chicken personal
I felt the salt levels rising immediately
yo zwag in next game can you put flash in F key? :D
That Neeko supporting you and going against that Sea Cretin lol