Very beautiful work, Ivan! Your sense of harmony is on point. Love the picardy resolution that comes unexpectedly at the end, it give a hopeful feeling, after a quite sorrow piece.
It’s impressive how AI helps musicians as you and me. 5 years ago was unexpectable to hear our vocal music with letter by a computer. Very good job my friend, looking forward to hear more from you!
The voice leading is impeccable, and I love the harmonies and chord progressions. I can tell that you grasp counterpoint and polyphony very profoundly! From one atheist to another, amen indeed!
Thank you. Although I don't think my skill with counterpoint was that good back then. Right now it is decent but I still have a lot to improve, I hope I will have some free weeks where I can just sit down and do a bunch of counterpoint exercises.
Hello, very good job!! I also dedicate myself to composing for choir, I would like to know what voice program you use for midi production of your works??? Thanks in advance
Nice, mate. I really like it. I am a singer so I try to sing what's in my head sometimes. But in my head I hear many colors and voices together like in a choral so I am always dissatisfied that I can't express myself. So sometimes I try to imagine the sounds in my head. But I can't put them all together and I sometimes forget what I had imagined. It frustrates me haha. Sometimes there's those times of inspiration that are like gold. I feel a lot of pleasure when that happens and I delight myself for a couple minutes with the colorful choral in my head. When it happens, I tear myself sometimes because it is beautiful and it's something so intimate in my soul. I wish I could have the skill to write it up like you do. So the music is not lost forever and could actually be heard again since it's written. It's also cool to share it with others. I don't know musical theory. I can see myself doing what you do. Got any tips, mate? Cheers from Brazil.
My advice would be that you first practice writing down tonal melodies without a reference (piano or music software). Sight reading lieder will be useful too. Once you have the skill to write down melodies that you hear in your head you will have the most crucial step done. After you do that (or maybe at the same time) I suggest studying counterpoint, even if it is just the basics about parallel 5ths, suspensions, etc. And pair it with a basic harmony study focused on tonal degrees and modulations. That should be enough to write a decent choral. And Brazil... I used to have feelings for a girl from there haha. I still have to finish a piece that expresses those feelings. Greetings from Spain!
@@Ivan_1791 Thank you for your response, mate. So you mean that I should write notes in sheet music paper (using software if I can)? Do u think I should learn theory fundamentals before trying that? And what lieders are you talking about? Could you give me some references? What is a good way to find them? I love Spain so much. You guys have great artists, not only musicians but painters and sculptors as well. I particularly like your sacred art, churches and the imagineros (I think that's how you call them? The artists that make catholic sculptures or images). My favorite is Francisco Romero Zafra. Oh, yeah, man. I think brazilian girls are really something hahaha. I hope your piece turns out to be great. Would love to hear it in your channel.
You're welcome. I think it is better to start writing down melodies on paper. You should learn basic music stuff (mainly notation) before writing melodies but nothing too advanced. I suggest trying to read the melodies in lieders by Schubert, Schumann and Mozart. That practice will let you write down melodies quite fast. Oh, I didn't know about that man, quite interesting. Yes, the culture here is quite amazing. We simply had a nice friendship but she decided to not have online friends anymore. And I will try to compose it next year! I think it will be my best piano work by far, and I mean BY FAR.
I have the same thing where I can improvise a whole ensemble in my head but struggle getting it out. One thing that'll helps me is playing the piano. I kind of taught myself and just play whatever comes to mind at the time. You could also try just recording your idea if you sing out him it out loud. And then you hope that when you play it back that you remember or can infer what harmonies you heard at the time. There's not really a great solution except recording until we (hopefully) get a device that can convert our brainwave thought music into an orchestration. I would love that!
"So yeah, this isn't the best, but still some nice harmonies" Give yourself more credit, it sounds great! I wish I could write music with this kind of harmony but I lack the knowledge and tools
Totally! Gotta put the time into learning before I can hope to apply it and come up with something good. Understanding different rhythms in the voices will be big for me too. @@Ivan_1791
@@Ivan_1791no way, a composer doesn't know about the amen break! Take a nice amen break before reading this comment because it's going to amen break your mind! Amen breaking all conventions of what drums should be, the amen break is an incredible drum solo that has been enormously sampled over many musics. Even said to be the most, although I can't say for sure. Though, many people will use it to kinda amen break any proper rhythm writing by spamming and amen breaking it into chops which makes it a bit ridiculous although sometimes it's incredible. There are straight up piano rolls soundfont that are the different part of the amen break just so you can use the bits directly as they are already amen broken. Also, there's amen in the name which is the only lyric of your music.
No idea, maybe Cantamus has an option for that but I didn't investigate a lot yet. A friend of mine uses Audacity and puts church reverb to make it sound as if more voices were playing.
@@Ivan_1791no, cantamus cannot do this. The best you can do to fill out the sound is to double each line and then switch the parts for the duplicates (alto sings sop, tenor sings bass etc). It sort of works.
@@Ivan_1791 Thank you very much! Good idea, I'll look into it. I discovered Cantamus through this channel and I'm loving it. Never stop posting these videos, they inspire us more and more!
Thank you! I would love to see that for sure, you can email me if you want and I will send you the score (ivanmusic1791@gmail.com) (Remember to mention this piece in the email you send me).
I'm not sure. I think it is thanks to my Kyrie that is getting viral. Lately I have been using more marketable video titles and it seems RUclips finally found the right demogrphic to recommend it. The Cantamus playback isn't very well known yet so people are very curious about it. Also when people get recommended videos with over 1k views it is more probable they will check them, so the moment I get 1k views fast the rest is way easier.
Hey do you mind if I transpose this into a concert band arrangement. I wont get any money off of it and i can send you the audio and pdf if you want. This would be all for fun.
you shouldn't have remembered it. You couldn't get the time right. This is not in 3/4, but 4/4, with random extentions of the measure, and some 1 beat long measures for good measure.
You have talent and a good ear for beauty, but do not know how to prepare or resolve suspensions "properly" (i.e., the way Bach, Mozart, Beethove, and Chopin did). I recommend McGill's PeterSchubert's brand new second edition of "Baroque Counterpoint", available SUNY press. It will cost you $70, but you could make this good music great. Go for it!
Thank you. This piece is a bit old so my knowledge of harmony and counterpoint wasn't that good back then, but I would still like to practice counterpoint whenever I find time for it. Thank you for the recommendation, I didn't know about that one. I have the Torre Bertucci (which I didn't like and didn't read more than 20 pages) and the one by Garcia Gago (which I read a bit and I should read fully because it is pretty good).
@@Ivan_1791 because I am heavily non religious and disagree with just about everything that has to do with blind faith. Amen has practically everything to do with religion. Beautiful harmonies though! Honestly so sweet to the ears. I just avoid anything religious like it’s the plague, not to say other people shouldn’t practice their own faiths, I just stay the heck away. Also posted the ‘ah’ and ‘men’ thing as a joke. The harmony was lovely. Keep composing, you have great talent!
@@jackhartford4831 Thank you. I am agnostic myself, perhaps just atheist. But I used those lyrics because they are very simple and they help Cantamus give a better playback. Also when I use religious texts it is just a tribute to Bach, Tallis, etc.
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Your sense of harmony has always been incredible, dude. I can't remember if you ever showed me this before back then. Really wish it were longer XD
Bro, this is the piece I used to help you. 💀
@@Ivan_1791Lmao
Very beautiful work, Ivan! Your sense of harmony is on point. Love the picardy resolution that comes unexpectedly at the end, it give a hopeful feeling, after a quite sorrow piece.
Thank you very much! I will try to compose more chorales in the future, more polished ones now that I have more experience.
Nice.
Great job!!
Thanks!
It’s impressive how AI helps musicians as you and me. 5 years ago was unexpectable to hear our vocal music with letter by a computer. Very good job my friend, looking forward to hear more from you!
For sure, it is crazy how now we can simulate whole orchestras and choirs. We have more tools now than ever, it is a reality.
That’s not AI, it’s just notation software like Sibelius, which has been around for decades.
@@Dan474834 So it is like an advanced Note Performer? How does it work?
How are they singing the words and not (ah) like in musescore or fl studio?
Its a program/site called ‘Cantamus’
Nice harmonies, and that alto part is quite beautiful on its own!
Thanks!
dang vocal playback has gotten really good now
Yup, almost scary good.
@@Ivan_1791 5 years from now it will be terrifying
@@Ivan_1791 Wich program is this?
@@desanctisapostata Cantamus.
Forgetting a piece only to discover it later is a feeling that is all too familiar to me....
The voice leading is impeccable, and I love the harmonies and chord progressions. I can tell that you grasp counterpoint and polyphony very profoundly! From one atheist to another, amen indeed!
Thank you. Although I don't think my skill with counterpoint was that good back then. Right now it is decent but I still have a lot to improve, I hope I will have some free weeks where I can just sit down and do a bunch of counterpoint exercises.
Very pretty!!!
Thanks!
Hello, very good job!! I also dedicate myself to composing for choir, I would like to know what voice program you use for midi production of your works??? Thanks in advance
I use Musescore to write the score and Cantamus for the playback.
@@Ivan_1791 Thank you very much Ivan, your name is the same as my brother!! Good luck and keep composing!! A pleasure and luck!!
That's pretty cool! And thank you.
Gorgeous
What application do you to write those pieces ?
The playback is done with Cantamus.
I just discovered your channel, and I really appreciate your music. Keep it up, and I'm looking forward to following your work!
Thank you so much for the support! I hope you will enjoy my future content.
Which software did you use?
Cantamus
Is there a way to get a better EH vowel in that software? The AH sounds very good, but the EH is too close.
No idea, maybe in Spanish it is more open.
Nice, mate. I really like it.
I am a singer so I try to sing what's in my head sometimes. But in my head I hear many colors and voices together like in a choral so I am always dissatisfied that I can't express myself. So sometimes I try to imagine the sounds in my head. But I can't put them all together and I sometimes forget what I had imagined. It frustrates me haha. Sometimes there's those times of inspiration that are like gold. I feel a lot of pleasure when that happens and I delight myself for a couple minutes with the colorful choral in my head. When it happens, I tear myself sometimes because it is beautiful and it's something so intimate in my soul. I wish I could have the skill to write it up like you do. So the music is not lost forever and could actually be heard again since it's written. It's also cool to share it with others.
I don't know musical theory. I can see myself doing what you do. Got any tips, mate? Cheers from Brazil.
My advice would be that you first practice writing down tonal melodies without a reference (piano or music software). Sight reading lieder will be useful too. Once you have the skill to write down melodies that you hear in your head you will have the most crucial step done.
After you do that (or maybe at the same time) I suggest studying counterpoint, even if it is just the basics about parallel 5ths, suspensions, etc. And pair it with a basic harmony study focused on tonal degrees and modulations. That should be enough to write a decent choral.
And Brazil... I used to have feelings for a girl from there haha. I still have to finish a piece that expresses those feelings. Greetings from Spain!
@@Ivan_1791 Thank you for your response, mate. So you mean that I should write notes in sheet music paper (using software if I can)? Do u think I should learn theory fundamentals before trying that? And what lieders are you talking about? Could you give me some references? What is a good way to find them?
I love Spain so much. You guys have great artists, not only musicians but painters and sculptors as well. I particularly like your sacred art, churches and the imagineros (I think that's how you call them? The artists that make catholic sculptures or images). My favorite is Francisco Romero Zafra.
Oh, yeah, man. I think brazilian girls are really something hahaha. I hope your piece turns out to be great. Would love to hear it in your channel.
You're welcome. I think it is better to start writing down melodies on paper. You should learn basic music stuff (mainly notation) before writing melodies but nothing too advanced. I suggest trying to read the melodies in lieders by Schubert, Schumann and Mozart. That practice will let you write down melodies quite fast.
Oh, I didn't know about that man, quite interesting. Yes, the culture here is quite amazing.
We simply had a nice friendship but she decided to not have online friends anymore. And I will try to compose it next year! I think it will be my best piano work by far, and I mean BY FAR.
I have the same thing where I can improvise a whole ensemble in my head but struggle getting it out. One thing that'll helps me is playing the piano. I kind of taught myself and just play whatever comes to mind at the time. You could also try just recording your idea if you sing out him it out loud. And then you hope that when you play it back that you remember or can infer what harmonies you heard at the time. There's not really a great solution except recording until we (hopefully) get a device that can convert our brainwave thought music into an orchestration. I would love that!
Kind of sounds like Bach's Kumm Susser Tod at some points, one of my favorite pieces by him
It could be, I take a lot of inspiration from Bach, he's like a father for composers.
@@Ivan_1791 that's really cool
¿Qué programa usas para escucharlo?
Cantamus
"So yeah, this isn't the best, but still some nice harmonies" Give yourself more credit, it sounds great! I wish I could write music with this kind of harmony but I lack the knowledge and tools
I'm sure you could compose similar things or better after studying harmony in depth. ^^
Totally! Gotta put the time into learning before I can hope to apply it and come up with something good. Understanding different rhythms in the voices will be big for me too. @@Ivan_1791
Well done, nice counterpoint !
Thanks. 😁 I must admit the ending is a bit lazy haha, but I used to do that, get tired when composing the last portion.
Now you need to add the Amen Break.
What is that?
@@Ivan_1791no way, a composer doesn't know about the amen break! Take a nice amen break before reading this comment because it's going to amen break your mind! Amen breaking all conventions of what drums should be, the amen break is an incredible drum solo that has been enormously sampled over many musics. Even said to be the most, although I can't say for sure. Though, many people will use it to kinda amen break any proper rhythm writing by spamming and amen breaking it into chops which makes it a bit ridiculous although sometimes it's incredible. There are straight up piano rolls soundfont that are the different part of the amen break just so you can use the bits directly as they are already amen broken.
Also, there's amen in the name which is the only lyric of your music.
What? 💀
@@Ivan_1791 did my answer amen broke your expectations too much?
@@omniscientomnipresent5500 You amened me
Esta hermosa la canción,no sabía que se podía hacer cantar palabras en software 😮
What is the playback program? What sound library?
Cantamus, the sound library I used was the default of the web.
Stunning harmonic progression! Do you know of other programs like Cantamus that generate audio for "Tuttis" choirs, besides the soloists?
No idea, maybe Cantamus has an option for that but I didn't investigate a lot yet. A friend of mine uses Audacity and puts church reverb to make it sound as if more voices were playing.
@@Ivan_1791no, cantamus cannot do this. The best you can do to fill out the sound is to double each line and then switch the parts for the duplicates (alto sings sop, tenor sings bass etc). It sort of works.
@@Ivan_1791 Thank you very much! Good idea, I'll look into it. I discovered Cantamus through this channel and I'm loving it. Never stop posting these videos, they inspire us more and more!
@@graupner1345 Thank you so much for the suggestion! I'll try this as well.
That is really nice! I believe it could sound really cool with a horn quartet, do you have a pdf of that so I could try it with some friends of mine?
Thank you! I would love to see that for sure, you can email me if you want and I will send you the score (ivanmusic1791@gmail.com) (Remember to mention this piece in the email you send me).
It sounds incredible! I love the harmonies. Anybody know what composers I should listen to if I love this sound?
Thanks! And for harmonies like these I would recommend you Brahms (his requiem and Op.104 for example), Mahler, Bruckner, etc.
@@Ivan_1791 I was actually thinking of checking Bruckner out! Thanks for the recommendations; I’ll listen to them right away!
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Hey Ivan, I am incredibly curious how you are getting so many views (4.2k in 3 days on this video) on your pastiche work. This is unheard of? How?!
I'm not sure. I think it is thanks to my Kyrie that is getting viral. Lately I have been using more marketable video titles and it seems RUclips finally found the right demogrphic to recommend it. The Cantamus playback isn't very well known yet so people are very curious about it.
Also when people get recommended videos with over 1k views it is more probable they will check them, so the moment I get 1k views fast the rest is way easier.
Hey do you mind if I transpose this into a concert band arrangement. I wont get any money off of it and i can send you the audio and pdf if you want. This would be all for fun.
Yes, that would be cool! I can send you the Musescore file over email, mine is ivanmusic1791@gmail.com
What did use for the audio? What app is that?
Cantamus.
What's the name of your music software?
Cantamus.
if ure using AI, please teach me how!
It is called Cantamus. You have to give it a musicxml. file and it will do the rest.
@@Ivan_1791didn't know you had to pay for it lmao
@@6ingular Yes, you have, but for people like me it is worth it.
what app is this
Cantamus app, it's a web.
@@Ivan_1791 thanks
It's got the Gouda, that gorgonzola, that cheddar
It's cheesy 😂
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you shouldn't have remembered it. You couldn't get the time right. This is not in 3/4, but 4/4, with random extentions of the measure, and some 1 beat long measures for good measure.
I love the comment, thanks.
By the way, your counterpoint exercise on a cantus firmus finally proved my suspicions.
@@Ivan_1791 whas suspicion?
You have talent and a good ear for beauty, but do not know how to prepare or resolve suspensions "properly" (i.e., the way Bach, Mozart, Beethove, and Chopin did). I recommend McGill's PeterSchubert's brand new second edition of "Baroque Counterpoint", available SUNY press. It will cost you $70, but you could make this good music great. Go for it!
Thank you. This piece is a bit old so my knowledge of harmony and counterpoint wasn't that good back then, but I would still like to practice counterpoint whenever I find time for it.
Thank you for the recommendation, I didn't know about that one. I have the Torre Bertucci (which I didn't like and didn't read more than 20 pages) and the one by Garcia Gago (which I read a bit and I should read fully because it is pretty good).
had me at the Ah, lost me at the men.
Why is that?
@@Ivan_1791 because I am heavily non religious and disagree with just about everything that has to do with blind faith. Amen has practically everything to do with religion.
Beautiful harmonies though! Honestly so sweet to the ears. I just avoid anything religious like it’s the plague, not to say other people shouldn’t practice their own faiths, I just stay the heck away. Also posted the ‘ah’ and ‘men’ thing as a joke. The harmony was lovely.
Keep composing, you have great talent!
@@jackhartford4831 Thank you. I am agnostic myself, perhaps just atheist. But I used those lyrics because they are very simple and they help Cantamus give a better playback. Also when I use religious texts it is just a tribute to Bach, Tallis, etc.
@@Ivan_1791 very informative, thanks for sharing! Keep up the compositions, I’ll stop in to check them out!
Spot on. Using religious texts is great even if you’re not religious (or a different religion). Its not a bad thing with a hidden meaning