Throwing in the towel doesn't end a fight and it might even hurt you. Let us explain.
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- We are all familiar with the concept of throwing in the towel, but have we grown 'too' familiar? Well, according to the Nevada Athletic Commission's view on things - maybe.
It was shocking to learn that not only does throwing in the towel not have to signal the end of the fight but the fighter can be penalized if his corner does so. Something something insult to injury something something. So, what's the deal? What's up with this rule? Why is it there? Where are my keys?
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The animators must really be going through it if they drew a bunny ready to end it all when Seth was discussing about the concept of quitting. The bunnies are cute tho.
You don't have to be suicidal to reference the act of suicide. I see what you're saying, though.
Maybe they've just been reading the book of bunny suicides
Am I crazy or do their “bunnies” look like a cheap barstool pirate dog ripoff from 2014
@@theREALchriszito just you
But real, another great video. Yall are doing great and I love the animation. Go bunny boxers
"If the corner throws in the towel, get they ass too" -Sun Tzu, Art of War
I feel like Seth can convince me he was James Franco or related to James Franco
“A fighter can continue in a worse state in MMA than in boxing?”
I’d definitely argue the opposite. The ref in the UFC is put there to stop the fight upon any signal of KO. In boxing, boxers are given to ten to stand back up- that’s why we’ve seen a ton of boxers DIE in the ring compared to the relatively small number of MMA fighters die in the ring.
Now, boxing also have, ya know, a hundred years on organized MMA so.
I can't believe they didn't make a reference to Moe flying in with the fan to fly Homer out of the ring. The ultimate way for a corner to DQ their battered fighter
The real difference between MMA and Boxing is the amount of tools at one's disposal. In boxing you only have a finite amount of tools to work with and if the other guy clearly has you outmatched in all those areas there's essentially nothing you can do but acknowledge you've been beat and throw in the towel to save your guy to fight another day or let him take an ass whooping pointlessly. In MMA there's SUBSTANTIALLY more ways to win the fight, even if the guy has you outmatched on the feet maybe you can catch him on the ground, if he's better on the ground too maybe you can work a clinch game or make the fight a brawl where the guy you're fighting prefers a more technical, clean fight. Because there's just so many more tools to work with it becomes a lot harder to truly know when your guy is outmatched completely versus when he's still got a chance somewhere but its just going bad for them right now. I would believe that's one of the lead reasons why boxers have the towel thrown in for them more so than MMA fighters.
It's a foul cuz you're throwing objects that can distract or inhibit the fighters into the ring... Cornermen and fighters realized that they could use that as a way to forfeit almost instantaneously
It makes sense that losing on purpose would be generally illegal for any game on which people gamble. If people are allowed to bet against a fighter who concedes a match, it isn't hard to see the cheating potential. In fact, boxing seems almost perfectly designed to scam betters in this way. I think historically, that is exactly what happened.
I was always under the impression that the towel was thrown between rounds, and was kinda: "our dude can't go back in, so we're sending in the towel instead, to signify that we're done."
They forgot to mention a lot fights can be called in between rounds by the fighter or the corner in mma you can also verbally tap or just tap at any moment and lastly the doctor can stop a fight as well
The most famous example of the towel being thrown in was from a 1938 boxing match between Joe Louis and Max Schmelling.
Don't forget to bring a towel.
I live for videos like this... Learning the value of giving up, and oh man if you are LUCKY enough to also get to do nothing but still live a happy comfortable life. 🤣🤘
I'd argue that MMA carries LESS risk for the fighters, and that's why there's less need for a corner stoppage. Fewer rounds and more ways to end the fight (submissions, tap outs due to strikes etc.), plus a refereeing culture that encourages stepping in much earlier than their boxing counterparts, at least in the last decade. This is why boxing, sadly, sees far more deaths during or immediately after a fight.
But I agree that the NSAC rules about throwing in the towel are almost certainly gambling-oriented.
I would say one of the most famous good comebacks in mma is anderson Silva vs chael sonnen
Will, where is your towel? I feel cheated, personally.
Love the bunny animations
The towel can be thrown, but it is not your savior.
Very cool towel!
😭 I wouldnt throw in the space jam towel either
Is that Seth or the gigachad guy
The best part about this video is Soft Michael. 100%
Wait what’s will’s coolest towel?
Does the whole secret base team just work from home now?
Ne-VAH-da? Damn east coasters.
How come Will didn't show his coolest towel?
Didn’t Mayweather’s father get in the ring between rounds and throw a punch at someone?
Will wtf where’s your coolest towel?
So in theory the ref could decide not to end the match when the towel was thrown in, but has it happened?
Will never showed his towel
Best comeback in ufc history is Silva vs Sonnen 1 imo
Well the bright side is nobody in MMA does it anyway so it’s not likely to apply lol
…why rabbits?
D Rose bulls collapse next?
I love the Punch-Out reference at 3:32
“There’s an I in win, but there’s also an I in quit” -Ben Simmons probably
Great comment! Lmao
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2 I’s in millions
Seth has clearly been waiting for a towel-themed SB video since 1996 😂
Also hey could you guys do an episode of weird rules on “ruckgate” it’s essentially the French national team exploiting rugby laws so hard world rugby had to change the laws to a fundamental part of the sport
Italy not France.
Italians, against the English
1. It's Italy, not france.
2. This will be an amazing episode. Get on it, SB.
It was Italy and it was stupid because Italy did something genius
Defining a ruck to a layman is hard enough at the best of times. Explaining why these tackles that looked like they were rucks but WEREN'T rucks would be incredible to see.
The main thing with throwing in the towel in MMA is you can't get slept and just be given a good ol 10 seconds to get up. In boxing they have more rounds, larger amounts of hits and the 10 seconds to get up. There will be more occasions where the towel throw makes sense in boxing because of these factors.
right, thats where i thought he was going. the fight in mma is supposed to end as soon as a fighter cant defend himself. Theres very few times in MMA where a fight shouldve ended that necessitates a towel, because the ref likely shouldve already stopped the fight
Why are all the animations bunny themed? Im not complaining, it is adorable!
Branding
I like how excited Seth was to show his Space Jam towel lol
So excited he missed the super obvious "Want to play a game? Want to play Show and Towel?" pun.
Hey, Seth showed his coolest towel -- where's Will's coolest towel?
He quit the coolest towel competition cuz he knew he was beat
@@Edgemaster72 you can say... He has thrown in the towel
I'm really surprised they didn't talk about the couple times in the past few years where the ref tossed the towel back out of the ring and had the fight continue.
Didn’t know a ref could do that
Wait what!? 💀
@@Biid21If throwing in the towel is a foul, the ref can choose not to penalize it, in this case by throwing out the towel
I have thrown in the towel many times. In amateur wrestling depending on the ref or the event, you can tell the ref the period is over by tapping the ref with a towel, or throwing the towel in (folded and taped up). This is for tournaments where you may have 4, 6, or more matches going at once
They use pool noodles often!
I think I have seen that a couple of times, but then you got people who "tap" the referees too hard on the back, so I think at the time they moved away from pool noodles for a while.
Lmao you threw in the towel for a wrestling match… trash
@@josemeraz4428 A lot of wrestlers do. I did. Dont regret it at all.
But you are an idiot who knows nothing about wrestling so of course you would say something moronic. Id bet anything that youd be in tears by the end of a meet.
There are many times where the smart move is to throw in the towel. I have 3-4 other matches that day and coach will make sure that if i have no way of winning that the match needs to be over. That could be the difference between losing one match that day and losing 3 that day.
The extensive references to Danpei from Ashita no Joe is greatly appreciated.
Well I certainly wasn't expecting to see a Space Jam towel named "Soft Michael" when I clicked on this video, no judgment though.
Love the bunnies. Can they always be bunnies from now on?
Imagine getting your face bashed in so your corner throws in the towel, and the ref is just like "nah"
my favourite "throwing in the towel" moment: Ken Shamrock, one of the toughest SOBs to ever come down the pike, in Pride, asking his corner to throw in the towel. The reason? He thought he was having a heart attack
.... And was he?
@@RobertJW yea he died
@@looc546 one of the saddest deaths in sports . It's a shame Noone really talks about it anymore
He's still alive, these clowns are cappin
@@caracalfloppa4997 That I know! Heart attacks are survivable!
I think there's a rule in the MLB where a base runner cannot touch the 3rd or 1st base coach during a play otherwise it's an out. This happened to the Rangers in a game against the Twins in the mid 2010's.
There is no rule that a base coach can't touch a runner, however it is illegal interference to physically aid a runner.
So giving him a high five or a congratulatory pat as he passes is fine (and not uncommon), but physically stopping him or pushing him would be interference and an out.
Note, this is per MLB rules, maybe other rule books are different.
MMA having less corner stoppages isn't really because MMA lets fighters fight in worse shape. Quite the opposite. Because fights continue after someone is knocked down the dropped fighter usually gets hit a few more times and the fight is stopped pretty quick. Not always but thats pretty much most fights. In boxing if you get dropped and essentially knocked out as long as you get up before 10 seconds you're good to keep going. Especially in the early days of boxing most fights did not have the maximum number of knockdowns per fighter per fight ending rule they do now. so if your guy is out on his feet the ref would just let them keep going sometimes and he would just keep getting knocked down and getting up. Think pat berry vs kango but like 5 times in a fight.
MMA also has tapping where as boxing doesn’t and the fighter can easily end the fight themself
Bob Sapp is the clear example of tapping
You can do the exact same thing in boxing by just taking a knee and allowing yourself to be counted out. It happens all the time.
For the record, when you throw in the towel you can tie a knot in it first to avoid the issue Seth was describing 😂
Yeah I was thinking something like that or have a weight attached to one end like NFL penalty/challenge flags
"It's called Soft Michael"
And he took that personally
This better explain why Rocky didn't throw in the towel to save Apollo
He gave his friend what he asked for and it cost him his life, that'll bother anyone of us the rest of our lives 😔😔😔
My best towel is one my fiancee and I got from a thrift store: featured a big-headed caricature of a kid doing 5 different sports at once, and it says it's for "Jared's Bar Mitzvah 2000"
"The towel doesn't excuse you; I do."
-Ref
I have always thought the challenge flag in football is funny.
"I think you got the call wrong... here pick this up"
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8:06 The way Jeff just runs off all excited like a 7 year old to get his towel lmao
I'm always looking forward to a new Secret Base video. Love the animation in this one!
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A "The Worst" vid would actually be great they haven't done one in at least 3 years
Well, The Worst for Brazil wouldn't just be Brazil 2016, but Brazil 1950 too, maybe you could run the two together as a sort of curse that Brazil will never win when they're hosts.🙂😉
Also, in MMA you have options to avoid punishment, like clinching and grappling in general
I have something big for you bro !!!’
That’s if your opponent can’t/won’t stop you from doing that
Fighters going for a panic grapple usually just eat more shots.
You're supposed to throw the towel at your opponent. He then becomes blinded and you bite his leg off.
Sorry but biggest mma comeback was chael sonnen vs. Anderson silva, try again later
god damn, I love the drawings so much in this one
Back in June 2010, Miguel Cotto vs Yuri Foreman. Foreman was the WBA Middleweight champ and came into a fight with a brace on his right knee. In the 7th round, Yuri collasped onto his injured leg. Referee Arthur Mercante Jr. told Foreman to "suck it up" when the fight should've been stopped. In the 8th, Yuri Foreman's corner threw in the towel due to their fighter fallen down again because of the injured knee. Mercante immediatley picked up the towel and attempeted to throw it out of the ring. It didn't make it. It landed on the top rope and draped over the middle rope. Yuri Foreman was eventually TKO'd in the 9th to a left hook to the body. Miguel went on tom have a Hall of Fame career and retired in 2017. Foreman last fought in June 2021, losing a majority decision.
we didn't see will's coolest towel! give us the towel reveal!!!
Shoutouts to the animators making the coach Danpei Tange from Ashita no Joe.
MMA has a lot better defensive options than boxing as well. If you are getting beaten up you can shoot for a takedown or clinch to stall the fight and give your self time to recover. Once you start getting mauled in boxing it really can only get worse and worse.
If you have a good ref, you shoudn't need to throw in a towel.
I think it's the opposite. In boxing can get a lot more hurt and still continue the fight as they're given the opportunity to go down and get a 10 second break and can hang on an clinch. In MMA any seriously hurt fighter will be stopped very soon if they don't immediately recover.
Let me get this straight. To stop the fight you suggest climbing into the ring.... with pads taped on your hands..... and a mouthguard in? So, basically what the fighters wear? Lmao. You'd be punched in a matter of seconds
Along with towels, can you also look into other forms of MMA equipment that come under scrutiny for different reasons, specifically mouthguards and sharp, tape-edged, fingerless gloves?
If someone has to throw in the towel, then the ref is incompetent anyway. I mean, seriously, think about it because it means they noticed something the reff should have already noticed. So, any referee that continues to ignore the danger of the situation that's going on instead of calling the match and deducting a point is proving further that they need to be fired as reff.
My inner weeb is deeply appreciative of the corner-bunny clearly just being Danpei from Ashita no Joe.
Edwards just took that biggest comeback in a ufc fight history last Saturday 😂
To.immediately end a boxing match all the corner has to do is.. have the coach step in the ring.. Match over
can't believe yall didn't bring Julio Cesar Chavez come back KO
Yo I was digging the bunnies in this one, nice.
Also it was adorable how stoked Seth was to show off his towel. Man's ready to hitchhike the galaxy
shoutout to whoever does the animations for these videos, always super fun
It was in between rounds, but in the Pride FC Grand Prix 2000 finals, Rorion Gracie threw in the towel to end the fight between Royce Gracie and Kazushi Sakuraba.
That should do a weird rules on the mma rule we’re in a match in a state I think it’s in illinois we’re if the opponent can’t continue after a foul like a low blow the opponent who kick them low wins
only if the foul is deemed unintentional i think. but i do remember this
@@_zachmcall it was in a pfl bout
Any ref that didn’t call off the fight on seeing the towel, would be railroaded out of the sport so fast by coaches agents media etc. Interesting that its at the refs discretion at all
See other comments here for multiple stories of refs throwing the towel back out of the ring and having the match continue.
Not sure how it's a weird rule. The unified rules state that "Only the referee can stop the fight."
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Michael Katsidis vs Graham Earl fight. When Earl's corner threw in the towel, referee Mickey Vann responded by throwing the towel out of the ring and not stopping the fight. Seconds after that, Earl, down twice in the previous round and on his way out, knocked down Katsidis and fought for several more rounds before Earl's corner stopped it after the fifth.
watching Rocky 4 as a kid what's the first time I've ever heard of the whole throwing a towel thing
Wait, but we didn't get to see Will's towel??????!!!!!!!
'It's call soft Michael' is the funniest line of the bit.
Great example of this rule in action from a boxing match in Great Britain: ruclips.net/video/2Q6OEQ_7R9M/видео.html
I feel like I've been robbed of a coolest towel presentation.
Do you always make it clear that your video call is going to be an episode of Weird Rules? At the start of this one, it was not 100% clear that both of you knew that. I just like the idea that in the Secret Base [virtual] offices, people start conversations with questions about sports metaphors or hypotheticals and sometimes it turns into Weird Rules and other times it's just a weird conversation.
We didn't see Will's coolest towel :(
"Show & Towel" - my 8 yr old kid immediately upon overhearing y'all doing show and tell with towels.
tell your kid i said shut up
Seth was so ready to show off that towl lmao
But where's Will's cool towel?
Yooooo I have that SAME Space Jam towel!
It's like a before and after you comb your hair 😆😆😆
The bunny animations were hilarious
Note 📝 to self, don’t take Seth or Will on any non-bailing missions 🏃♂️🏃♂️
Yo first maybe