Holy crap, I didn't expect my comment to make it into a video! Good on you for giving it a go with the "proper" technique. I really love your painting style and it's only getting better!
I didn't even realize that scrumbling was a technique, but it's one i picked up on my own for that reason of liking the texture it left. And i really enjoyed the premise of this video, as the small and/or exciting details are what really draw me into painting. I hope that you'll be able to go full time RUclips, you're really good both at the hobby and at making fun videos for me to watch/listen to as i paint my own minis, as well as being very good about interacting with feedback. Thank you for all you do. Hope you have a good Thanksgiving with friends and/or family.
Great Video! I really love your editing, and you are so good at communicating the information in a very accessible way. Your channel has given me so many inspirations recently, thank you and I can't wait for the next video!
my Uncle taught me dry brushing like you did in your last video and he was a Ceramics sculptor hobbyist of around 50 years, so it must be an accepted method at some point.
It's not that it's "wrong" so much as it's not ideal for the goal being set while painting minis most of the time. Sometimes you might *want* the chalkier dry brushing effect.
In traditional arts and painting, this has long been referred to as "overbrushing" more than "dry brushing". I suspect an issue with the scratchier dry brushing in miniature painting is due to dry brushing having originally been popularized as the cheapest and fastest possible way to apply some kind of highlight to a miniature. Without needing any skill, or having to spend time painting. It was pretty common for a while to see the following kind of "painted" army: spray painted black, and crudely dry-brushed with a single paint color. (Bonus points for Necron armies sprayed black and uniformly dry brushed silver.) This in turn led to the belief that dry brushing is a cheap hack and inherently poor. In reality, the better version of dry-or-over brushing is ironically an excellent technique.
There is also wet brushing where you "dry bush" with an even more loaded brush. It is good to cover the entire area except for the most extremely deep/recessed areas.
Hi Lyla. First, I'd like to thank you for all the time you take to show noobs like me how to do this sort of thing, especially many of the airbrush techniques from your other videos. 😀 Next, I just wanted to ask you, what magnifying lamp do you use when painting your miniatures? I've read through tons of reviews, and always found many of those things to be complete garbage. Also, what's a good size? I was leaning towards getting a 5" lens with 5x mag, and with an 8 diopter. What I'm looking for is something which has a wide viewing area, large focal point, and where I don't have to hold things so close so as to avoid the paint brush from hitting the lens. I would be grateful for any help you could provide. Thanks.
I love your videos, keep doing what you do hun... and yeah... I just learned the whole dry brushing with just a tiny bit of water and not using a paper towel as well... I think it was Miniac who I picked it up from. Had my dry brush set from Artis Opus and didn't even know how to use it properly... but now im on the right track lol.. it definitely has shown a lot more of an improvement, that's for sure! no more chalky dry brushing!! Thanks for sharing!!
@@LylaMev glazing and blending! I'm pretty much a straight line painter. I would like to give my Star Wars Legion main characters a bit more of a quality look than just table top standards.
Starting with the largest brush i can- definitely not at all mentioning that specifically after watching me base coat a knight titan with a like size 2 brush
I would do the same thing but more delicately! Since I'm not trying to cover as much ground. The smashing of the brush was just to spread more paint on the model
My technic for dry brushing is to take a completely dry brush and a normally hydrated brush and "painting" the dry brush with the hydrated brush then adding paint and finally using a normal piece of paper instead of a paper towel to remove the paint
Really appreciate your info! Am a micro-noob in mini painting (only about 2 weeks in) Have definitely seen improvement, but struggle with finding a decent layering paint consistancy. Using Vallejo paint. Any suggestions?
That witchsong miniatures looks amazing, I'm actually doing mind numbingly extensive research on which model and type of 3d printer I want for my first one and was wondering if you do which one you use? Mainly I've been looking at fdm for the print height however just looking at the faceless king alone I'd imagine a resin printer would do the witchsongs models more justice, sooo now I'm stuck again.
I stumble onto that dry brush thing last night by accident or laziness whichever’s appropriate. I just didn’t want to go back up stairs for a paper towel. I thought the dry brush looked better! Now I know why!!!!!!
For drybrushing i only use a Kitchenpaperroll and a Makeup pencil from a 1 Euro Shop 😅. But it works really Well. First Dip the pencil in the Paint, then rub the Most Paint away in a dry Kitchenpaper until it feels dry, when you brush over your hand. At the end if the drybrusheffect looks a little to dusty/dry i paint over it with a thin coat of matt varnish.
What if you don't like doing detail work but enjoy base coating? How do I make detailing not suck? Because yeah, detailing a mini is boring and isn't fun. Like trying to do NMM is terrible and makes me want to scoop my eyes out with a dull rusty spoon.
I like to rub the dry brush on the back of my hand. When I can feel that it's slightly cool, but it doesn't make my hand wet, it's ready. The paper towel is definitely a necessary step in bringing the moisture in the brush down to this perfect level.
I empathize with the brush abuse so much, each time I pick up a new favorite brush I think to myself to be "gentle" with it and then few minutes later the brush looks like it's been used as a toothbrush. 🤣
Oh, I misread it as “skip the fun parts”. Which made some sense to me, like it’s a trade off and added speed comes at the cost of fun. But this is better. Faster and more fun.
@@LylaMev Sorry I'm a newbe, I saw your video about how the sculpters need to do better and then I heard about these mini's. I'm new in the UK and getting into war gaming as well as 3d printing
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thank you for this, it really helped me out, with tiny painting project
Holy crap, I didn't expect my comment to make it into a video! Good on you for giving it a go with the "proper" technique. I really love your painting style and it's only getting better!
Thanks for the info! I'm always happy to learn new things!
I didn't even realize that scrumbling was a technique, but it's one i picked up on my own for that reason of liking the texture it left. And i really enjoyed the premise of this video, as the small and/or exciting details are what really draw me into painting.
I hope that you'll be able to go full time RUclips, you're really good both at the hobby and at making fun videos for me to watch/listen to as i paint my own minis, as well as being very good about interacting with feedback. Thank you for all you do.
Hope you have a good Thanksgiving with friends and/or family.
Happy Thanksgiving to you, too!!
Great Video! I really love your editing, and you are so good at communicating the information in a very accessible way. Your channel has given me so many inspirations recently, thank you and I can't wait for the next video!
I've learned so much from your video. I really like how you show the three stages side by side. Thank you!
my Uncle taught me dry brushing like you did in your last video and he was a Ceramics sculptor hobbyist of around 50 years, so it must be an accepted method at some point.
It's not that it's "wrong" so much as it's not ideal for the goal being set while painting minis most of the time. Sometimes you might *want* the chalkier dry brushing effect.
In traditional arts and painting, this has long been referred to as "overbrushing" more than "dry brushing". I suspect an issue with the scratchier dry brushing in miniature painting is due to dry brushing having originally been popularized as the cheapest and fastest possible way to apply some kind of highlight to a miniature. Without needing any skill, or having to spend time painting. It was pretty common for a while to see the following kind of "painted" army: spray painted black, and crudely dry-brushed with a single paint color. (Bonus points for Necron armies sprayed black and uniformly dry brushed silver.)
This in turn led to the belief that dry brushing is a cheap hack and inherently poor. In reality, the better version of dry-or-over brushing is ironically an excellent technique.
Interesting to be sure. Your guides definitely help when I'm stumped on what to do next.
Wow, I’m gonna have to try that dry brushing method
Wooo full time RUclips! That's so exciting. You deserve all the support 😊😊
thanks for an updated drybrush technic
Great video, as always, I love your color choices
Thank you!
There is also wet brushing where you "dry bush" with an even more loaded brush. It is good to cover the entire area except for the most extremely deep/recessed areas.
Nice one. Love that gold recipe
The drybrushing technique is neat
Thanks!
Hi Lyla. First, I'd like to thank you for all the time you take to show noobs like me how to do this sort of thing, especially many of the airbrush techniques from your other videos. 😀 Next, I just wanted to ask you, what magnifying lamp do you use when painting your miniatures? I've read through tons of reviews, and always found many of those things to be complete garbage. Also, what's a good size? I was leaning towards getting a 5" lens with 5x mag, and with an 8 diopter. What I'm looking for is something which has a wide viewing area, large focal point, and where I don't have to hold things so close so as to avoid the paint brush from hitting the lens. I would be grateful for any help you could provide. Thanks.
I don't use the magnifier on my light! I agree-the magnifier is crap, I just happen to like the light.
I love your videos, keep doing what you do hun... and yeah... I just learned the whole dry brushing with just a tiny bit of water and not using a paper towel as well... I think it was Miniac who I picked it up from. Had my dry brush set from Artis Opus and didn't even know how to use it properly... but now im on the right track lol.. it definitely has shown a lot more of an improvement, that's for sure! no more chalky dry brushing!! Thanks for sharing!!
Loved this! Thank you :)
Splendid video!
Thank you!!
The editing @ 8:31 startled me because I thought Mochi was about to get drybrushed and covered in paint! 😭😭
No!
Thank you! Happy Thanksgiving, and WOW! Exciting big step!!!
Happy thanks giving!
FULL TIME?? YESSSSSS!!! 👏👏👏
That brush moisturiser is great! =O
I first learned of Scumble in Drama Class in high school for painting scenery!
Another great video, thanks!
Great video as always!
Scumbling is a great word. Also, for smaller stippling brushes, i've trimmed smaller brushes. It worked... alright....
Will you be doing any seminars at 2023 Adepticon?
I am not! I don't know what I would teach!!
@@LylaMev glazing and blending! I'm pretty much a straight line painter. I would like to give my Star Wars Legion main characters a bit more of a quality look than just table top standards.
Can't wait for you to go full time!
Thank you!!
Your scumbling-wet blending approach to base layers still looks pretty neat and tidy compared to the assault Banshee will launch on a model to start 😅
Tell me about it
Lol. You have some talent. Unreal
You're very kind!
Starting with the largest brush i can- definitely not at all mentioning that specifically after watching me base coat a knight titan with a like size 2 brush
NOOOOOO. don't do that!!!
@@LylaMev damage done been done
Great, actionable tips and pointers as always. Need more cats though. How do you think you would scumble differently on a 28-32mm model?
I would do the same thing but more delicately! Since I'm not trying to cover as much ground. The smashing of the brush was just to spread more paint on the model
maybe a smaller brush would help?
WHERE R THE CATS.
I can't FORCE them to misbehave!
My technic for dry brushing is to take a completely dry brush and a normally hydrated brush and "painting" the dry brush with the hydrated brush then adding paint and finally using a normal piece of paper instead of a paper towel to remove the paint
Really appreciate your info! Am a micro-noob in mini painting (only about 2 weeks in) Have definitely seen improvement, but struggle with finding a decent layering paint consistancy. Using Vallejo paint. Any suggestions?
That witchsong miniatures looks amazing, I'm actually doing mind numbingly extensive research on which model and type of 3d printer I want for my first one and was wondering if you do which one you use? Mainly I've been looking at fdm for the print height however just looking at the faceless king alone I'd imagine a resin printer would do the witchsongs models more justice, sooo now I'm stuck again.
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Thank you!!!
I stumble onto that dry brush thing last night by accident or laziness whichever’s appropriate. I just didn’t want to go back up stairs for a paper towel. I thought the dry brush looked better! Now I know why!!!!!!
For drybrushing i only use a Kitchenpaperroll and a Makeup pencil from a 1 Euro Shop 😅. But it works really Well. First Dip the pencil in the Paint, then rub the Most Paint away in a dry Kitchenpaper until it feels dry, when you brush over your hand. At the end if the drybrusheffect looks a little to dusty/dry i paint over it with a thin coat of matt varnish.
What if you don't like doing detail work but enjoy base coating? How do I make detailing not suck? Because yeah, detailing a mini is boring and isn't fun. Like trying to do NMM is terrible and makes me want to scoop my eyes out with a dull rusty spoon.
SKip it! thats what i do. :D
I like to rub the dry brush on the back of my hand. When I can feel that it's slightly cool, but it doesn't make my hand wet, it's ready. The paper towel is definitely a necessary step in bringing the moisture in the brush down to this perfect level.
That Smash Brush is awesome. Did you buy it or make it from a cheap brush?
It's just a cheap brush!
@@LylaMev what type please? Did you use scissors or razor?
It's just a regular round brush! But you could trim one short if you wanted to make a smaller stipple brush!
Do Witchsong’s stl come pre supported?
They do!!
For $3 bucks!?! I just joined their Tribe! Thanks for the recommendation…
I empathize with the brush abuse so much, each time I pick up a new favorite brush I think to myself to be "gentle" with it and then few minutes later the brush looks like it's been used as a toothbrush. 🤣
Trimming flash prior to painting is my nemesis lol
Where does “scrumbling” term come from?
It's a classical art term, usually used in drawing. It means to scribble!
Oh, I misread it as “skip the fun parts”. Which made some sense to me, like it’s a trade off and added speed comes at the cost of fun. But this is better. Faster and more fun.
With a name like "scrumbling," it's never going to become the next slapchop.
We will have to come up with something else!
Silly Putty is the best masking tool! I no longer feel alone.
is it scrumbling or scumbling?
Scumbling is official, but scrumbling is a joke on my discord server.
why did you stop filming in 60fps? 60fps ftw!
Glaze scrumbling is my default mode, apparently!
It's a good one!
How to deal with black color? (Armour, coats and fur)
Nice video! :)
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice :O
Best of luck for doing RUclips
I'm getting ready to tackle Yndrasta
I have a second yndrasta I really want to paint!
@@LylaMev it's such a bad ass model
Dang, never realized I was dry brushing wrong!
"I call it the art of dry brushing without dry brushing" - Master Lee ..... maybe.
4:42 Best Moment :D KILL DA BRUSH
So why do people paint non metallic paint to look metallic? I don’t understand that one.z
At first I thought that was a mini of Augustus
Where are your Cat person's?
Unfortunately, I can't always get the cats to misbehave
0 .14 ...'' You thinking about something different to do ''
Me 5 seconds later thinking ''Fuck it just do what ive done for the past 30 years ''...
Choosing colors ... takes me forever
it gets harder and harder to get hand's on miniatures instead of printing files -.-"
Sponge is way to wet. Less water
Which one?
@@LylaMev the one used for the dry brush should be almost dry. 2 drops is more than enough and often too much
Thank you! I did 2 since mine is bigger than the artist opus one that recommends 1 drop off water.
Comments for the comment god, likes for the like throne!
Thank you!
The Intro to this video is distilled truth; basecoats/first layers are the worst part for me.
I'm glad I'm not alone!
For the algorithm
Yes
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I was the inspiration and main designer for that line.
@@LylaMev Sorry I'm a newbe, I saw your video about how the sculpters need to do better and then I heard about these mini's. I'm new in the UK and getting into war gaming as well as 3d printing
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As it should be
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Congrats!
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My favorite!