Overhauling Loose Threadless Headset

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  • Опубликовано: 18 янв 2025

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  • @RJTheBikeGuy
    @RJTheBikeGuy  5 лет назад +5

    For more bike repair videos hit the subscribe button 🛑 and click the notification bell ► bit.ly/SubRJTheBikeGuy

  • @ZGADOW
    @ZGADOW 9 лет назад +50

    These videos are super helpful. As far as i'm concerned they are the gold standard for bike maintenance videos on youtube. Keep it up RJ!

  • @michaelhoste_
    @michaelhoste_ 3 года назад +3

    The only video that shows how to free the fork from the clamp ring viz. tap down, pull up, remove next ring etc. Every other video had the forks just drop out the bottom. Well mine didn’t! Thanks for showing how things work in the REAL world, RJ!!

  • @jmb6587
    @jmb6587 7 лет назад +6

    I absolutely love these videos. I work on my own bikes and keep cheap or high mileage bikes on the road. These videos have really helped and improved my skill,. RJ is a problem solver and does it with minimum fuss and spend.
    When i do this task I will take pictures of the spacers and likely use cable ties to keep them all together till i reassemble.

  • @jmb6587
    @jmb6587 4 года назад +2

    As always these videos are useful for people like me , on old bikes ,they maintain themselves.

  • @justaperson1812
    @justaperson1812 5 лет назад +8

    your channel and park tools are actual godsends

    • @michaelhoste_
      @michaelhoste_ 3 года назад

      Where Park Tools are the ideal world and RJ is the real world! It’s a good combo isn’t it?

  • @davidbedard3417
    @davidbedard3417 7 лет назад +3

    I do absolutely all the maintenance and upgrades on my bike thanks to his tutorials. RJ you saved me a bunch of money$$$

  • @joen3992
    @joen3992 7 лет назад +6

    Thank you for the informative video. I've had two shops tell me the head set bearings on my Katmandu are 'too costly to replace and is a difficult job.' After seeing this video. I can honestly say...someone was trying to hoodwink me.

    • @nothin1456
      @nothin1456 3 года назад

      People are so bad at specialty services man

    • @shirleyragona4190
      @shirleyragona4190 2 года назад +1

      where do I purchase these ring bearings??

  • @richardramero369
    @richardramero369 5 лет назад +1

    After reviewing the 2nd video about the bearings orientations, and re-watching this video, I stand corrected. In this video, I did not remember that you had to change the type of bearings that the bike had.. thank you for correcting me and putting the hyperlink of your other video..thank you again.

  • @ianmorris3084
    @ianmorris3084 10 месяцев назад

    Brilliant, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. This has been a great help to me and furthermore, demystified the Headset aspect of bicycle maintenance. Best wishes, from the UK! 👍

  • @jamesgibson3242
    @jamesgibson3242 2 года назад

    I'm getting that kind of play from my shocks. I had no idea changing the bearings would fix that. Thanks for the fix.

  • @alsuth803
    @alsuth803 4 года назад +1

    Just want to say thanks for your videos RJ. I've learnt a ton and done a lot of work myself.
    thx

  • @ccag1159
    @ccag1159 Год назад

    Nice work HERE and THERE!😉

  • @Masami_Salami
    @Masami_Salami 2 года назад

    You earned yourself another subscriber today.

  • @GameplayerSolCley
    @GameplayerSolCley 2 года назад

    Thank you Teacher!!!
    all the best for you!
    thanks to you I am my mechanic.

  • @harv855
    @harv855 10 лет назад +13

    It is standard automotive practice to center a bearing that is either tapered or goes onto a tapered race. To center a bearing, it is preloaded past the optimum point and then backed off. This is especially important in the case of a threadless headset because of the wedge piece that is required to allow the steerer tube to be pulled up. You actually did this in the video but did not explain why. This is called setting the bearing and should be done on crank bearings as well as headset bearings. Not so much required on bicycle wheel bearings but essential on car tapered roller wheel bearings. Briefly, just tighten the bearing until it does NOT turn freely, then back off until it does.

  • @jonestizmo1872
    @jonestizmo1872 5 лет назад +1

    Dear RJ. I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Hope you will do more videos in 2020. Specially, about internal gears :)

  • @marcmasterson9365
    @marcmasterson9365 2 года назад

    Hi RJ Like That Headset Segment I am Just Doing My Headset /Ball Bearings Refit On My Landrover Karnak Bike This Actually Helps Me Keep It Up Stay Safe M. England.

  • @Bukakaz
    @Bukakaz Год назад

    Excellent work!

  • @zjoesmoe2670
    @zjoesmoe2670 Год назад

    Thank you i have a 3 month old trek Marlin 5 it rained once and 2 weeks later the headset was smacking back and forth and the cage bearings all fell out when i removed the fork . I have never messed with a headset on bikes that were 20 years old and still worked. Doesn't it seem odd 3 months and they were rusted apart ?

  • @johneljalandoni3783
    @johneljalandoni3783 3 года назад +1

    Nice watch, is that citizen eco drive?

  • @Johny40Se7en
    @Johny40Se7en Год назад

    Thanks a lot for the video. 5:11 "Some" grease 😅 greased Lightning more like 😆🤣
    Suspension can be such a bloody faff. It would be way nicer if it was all Universal. One type and one way.

  • @adamkostan8671
    @adamkostan8671 2 года назад

    Nice work work 💪 ✅
    +👍
    💪 Keep more video's coming 📹

  • @carlosaguilarcastaneda8500
    @carlosaguilarcastaneda8500 5 лет назад +1

    Nice job your bikevmaster

  • @nickclayton2517
    @nickclayton2517 3 года назад

    Hey i love your videos. I recently bought a new suspension fork for my trek 7100. It Has a 1-1/8 threaded 164mm steerer tube the new fork is a 177 mm. I was wanting to know . is it safe to aadd spaces between the key washers and the top bolt ? I will cut it i just wanted to know.

  • @holmanmonterrey9651
    @holmanmonterrey9651 3 года назад

    Thanks friend you are the best

  • @bluemootang3239
    @bluemootang3239 8 месяцев назад +5

    2024 anyone??

  • @hinano316
    @hinano316 Год назад

    Good stuff 😊

  • @aguywiththerod4083
    @aguywiththerod4083 4 года назад

    thank you , very good video and good explanation !!

  • @tonyconnors1342
    @tonyconnors1342 4 года назад

    Very helpful thank you.

  • @9987molly
    @9987molly 5 лет назад

    Great video. How do you measure what kind of cartridge bearing you need for the cups if that all you have to replace?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  5 лет назад

      Bearings are part of the headset. If you want cartridge bearings, you need a headset with cartridge bearings. If special bearings wear out, then you you will hunt for replacements. Maybe contact the manufacturer. Or just replace the headset.

  • @roncooke2188
    @roncooke2188 5 месяцев назад

    thanks interesting video

  • @gearhead2017
    @gearhead2017 10 лет назад +2

    Good video rj,where can I get the grease gun? Local shop?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  10 лет назад +2

      I got it on Amazon. They didn't have it for a while, but apparently they have it again. www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0025UGOVW/ref=nosim/youtube25-20

    • @gearhead2017
      @gearhead2017 10 лет назад

      Thanks

  • @lordzethzetaomega9223
    @lordzethzetaomega9223 6 лет назад

    Rj thank man bomb display I gotta do it

  • @rohitpangaonkar9174
    @rohitpangaonkar9174 4 года назад

    Dear RJ , thank u very much for nice explanation , can u do some more on shock absorbers servicing . regards. ROHIT .INDIA.

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  4 года назад

      I have a bunch of videos already.

  • @richardramero369
    @richardramero369 5 лет назад +1

    I truly believe that you put both bearings in backwards..the full round part of the bearings, should ride in the cup. The cups are on the horn of the frame of the bike.

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  5 лет назад +2

      You would be wrong.
      ruclips.net/video/61Gygv82DAM/видео.html

  • @johnrobertsilva3139
    @johnrobertsilva3139 4 года назад

    You always used tinner for cleaning parts. is it advisable? thank you.

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  4 года назад +1

      I sometimes use mineral spirits. Sometimes I use degreaser. The mineral spirits works a lot faster.

    • @johnrobertsilva3139
      @johnrobertsilva3139 4 года назад

      @@RJTheBikeGuy ok. I will try the mineral spirits. but is it safe fir chains?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  4 года назад +1

      @@johnrobertsilva3139 For chains I use degreaser in a scrubber tool ruclips.net/video/_hXa07DWoKU/видео.html

  • @Nathandabest08
    @Nathandabest08 8 лет назад

    Where can i get the rubber seal at 7:38 because mine broke and i need to find another one?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  8 лет назад

      Probably buy a new headset unless your local bike shop has something in a bin.

  • @thelonerider5644
    @thelonerider5644 5 лет назад

    Fixing up one of these with some better parts. Just curious... what year is it? I can't find anything online with the year for the orange / grey one.

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  5 лет назад

      I don't know off hand. I have have that bike anymore. Don't go by just the color. Look at the graphics. They tend to change fro year to year. I am guessing 2004.
      www.vintage-trek.com/model_numbers1.htm

  • @essentialtran9825
    @essentialtran9825 6 лет назад

    Hey, can you make a video on how to modify a headset cup to fit tighter into a frame headtube that normally has a loose fit (goes in without hammering)??

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  6 лет назад

      Then maybe it's the wrong size or there is wear.

    • @essentialtran9825
      @essentialtran9825 6 лет назад +1

      RJ The Bike Guy i think the head tube is worn, but I've heard you can use a hammer and punch set or nail set or something to slightly widen the headset cup for a tight fit. have you done this before?

  • @moritzdo8305
    @moritzdo8305 4 года назад

    Where have you got those bearings. Can't find my needed size...

  • @freefirediamondtopup63
    @freefirediamondtopup63 6 лет назад

    Tnx...bro this video is supper

  • @BulletmanDoom
    @BulletmanDoom 5 лет назад

    Thanks again. I think I now know what I was doing wrong. 🚲💨💨

  • @sheejabijumon1253
    @sheejabijumon1253 4 года назад

    Good thankyou

  • @FIVEFIFT5
    @FIVEFIFT5 7 лет назад

    Is best to ride a bike with a head tube tightened not loosened if it wasn't for a headtube to be tightened ?? trust me... you will go through a lot of accidents what you never wish yourself to go through. I'm glad to see these videos

  • @dan_6915
    @dan_6915 5 лет назад

    Excelent!

  • @MrGlennhumphreys
    @MrGlennhumphreys 10 лет назад

    does it make any difference what grease you use or will any old grease do? someone told me lithium based grease was necessary to prevent water rust?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  10 лет назад +2

      I have used regular automotive grease before with no issues. These days I use marine grease which is designed to hold up to water.

  • @drawlbag
    @drawlbag 6 лет назад

    Excellent video! Has anyone ever seen RJ's face? I bet he's one handsome dude!

  • @roncooke2188
    @roncooke2188 5 лет назад

    Where are you gloves? Great video

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  5 лет назад +1

      When it's snowing out, I wear gloves.

    • @maybedrouet
      @maybedrouet 4 года назад

      rag, soap and coffee grounds

  • @yathatisgood
    @yathatisgood 9 лет назад

    Hi there
    On a threadless headset, can caged bearings be replaced with loose bearings?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  9 лет назад +1

      +yathatisgood Sure. I have a video doing it on a threaded headset. Same idea. ruclips.net/video/Uq3LNMfedl8/видео.html

    • @yathatisgood
      @yathatisgood 9 лет назад

      +RJ The Bike Guy
      Your so helpful. Thank you very much. I wish I had knowledge to share with you in return. Soil, trees and plants is my thing. Many myths out there. If you ever have a question, I'll be more than happy to help.
      Steve

  • @GeorgeWitham-qb6ye
    @GeorgeWitham-qb6ye Год назад

    It went together easily in less than an hour. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.

  • @Knojeal
    @Knojeal 5 лет назад

    I replaced my fork and i am missing a crown race. I have an integrated head set. How do I pick out a proper crown race?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  5 лет назад

      Pull the race off the old fork. The race is part of the headset.

    • @Knojeal
      @Knojeal 5 лет назад

      @@RJTheBikeGuy thanks.

  • @jamesmcrory8990
    @jamesmcrory8990 5 лет назад

    Just took all my headset off re-greased it
    I have exactly the same bearing as you have when you used the flat head screwdriver
    I cannot get that bearing out!
    Tried knocking it out with a flat head and from underneath
    Won’t come out
    Probably need to use more force but didn’t want to damage the bearings

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  5 лет назад

      I am not quite sure what you are referring to? Do you mean the cups?

    • @jamesmcrory8990
      @jamesmcrory8990 5 лет назад

      I’ve read VERY mixed suggestions about what type of grease I can use for the loose bearings ?
      I have Silicone grease?
      Or shall I use Lithium grease ? Or Moly grease?
      Which is better???

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  5 лет назад +1

      @@jamesmcrory8990 I use marine grease.

    • @jamesmcrory8990
      @jamesmcrory8990 5 лет назад

      RJ The Bike Guy ok cheers :)

  • @________19
    @________19 6 лет назад

    Hey, i need your help. I had a bike and it has sit in the garage for quite a long time(2 years). I tried to take it out and replace the fork but the fork was stuck in place. Can you give me some advice?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  6 лет назад

      Not with that limited amount of information.

    • @________19
      @________19 6 лет назад

      Ok. The last spacer was frozen in place. I can still steer though.

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  6 лет назад

      If it's just spacer, carefully cut the spacer off, and replace it. They are cheap.

    • @________19
      @________19 6 лет назад

      Ok. Thank you

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  6 лет назад

      Generally spacers don't get stuck. You might just try tapping it with a hammer to see if you can break it loose. Of course, you may be talking about something different than what I am understanding. It not very reliable to try to diagnose something through a couple lines of text.

  • @maybedrouet
    @maybedrouet 4 года назад

    The rubber seals: if you don't put them back, can it leave play in the fork once it is assembled?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  4 года назад +1

      Not really. They keep the crud out.

    • @silencilliste
      @silencilliste 4 года назад

      RJ The Bike Guy I finally found some in my stock of scavenged parts, and now that they're on, there is no more play. It's really hard to find information about these rubber seals! Gonna do lots of tiny test rides for a bit to make sure it's structurally sound.

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  4 года назад +2

      @@silencilliste The rubber seals shouldn't effect play. I am guessing you didn't have it adjusted right the first time.

  • @nicholas7103
    @nicholas7103 3 года назад +1

    Why not just replace the caged bearings with loose bearings?

  • @theshiftr6841
    @theshiftr6841 10 лет назад

    Do you Know the bike brand crescent i am a swede they are made in Varberg and on My crescent Balder i have a prob it's is just a big between My steerer cup and When i'm braking it's shaking and i ned help sollusion?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  10 лет назад

      I don't know Crescent. Is the headset threaded, or threadless? This video may help if you don't know: How To Identify Threaded/Threadless Forks/Stems On A Bike

  • @Wissassin
    @Wissassin 10 лет назад

    This is what I have I found it thank you

  • @BinhNguyen-ci7zu
    @BinhNguyen-ci7zu 3 года назад

    Can i convert to loose ball?

  • @shivanarendra1319
    @shivanarendra1319 2 года назад

    What is the Headset size

  • @CalvinCai_Frisbee
    @CalvinCai_Frisbee 10 лет назад

    where did you get your bike stand?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  10 лет назад +1

      I bought this one from a guy on craigslist. It didn't look as good when I got it. The base had a bunch of rust. I sanded off the rust and painted it. I use this one in the garage. I have a Park Tool stand in the house. My homemade stand is in the garage also holding a bike frame.

  • @ianbright5050
    @ianbright5050 7 лет назад

    The spacers on top of my are rusted whats the best way to remove them they are metal

  • @bobbys97r
    @bobbys97r 7 лет назад

    Where can i order these bearings for a 4300?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  7 лет назад

      Wherever you get other bike parts.

    • @bobbys97r
      @bobbys97r 7 лет назад

      RJ The Bike Guy thanks got the bike today....

  • @Create_o_raptor
    @Create_o_raptor 7 лет назад

    How do i takes those caps apart?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  7 лет назад

      What caps?

    • @Create_o_raptor
      @Create_o_raptor 7 лет назад

      RJ The Bike Guy found another video of yours.. those things u removed with that slotted getto pipe thingy
      . The things that the bearings sit in..

  • @bernielugg.
    @bernielugg. 4 года назад

    Wish you would show the way the bearing go because they can be fitted upside down.

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  4 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/61Gygv82DAM/видео.html

  • @DNJ2000
    @DNJ2000 4 года назад

    Hi there I’m having major issues with my alignment. I’ve tightened the stem but when I ride it doesn’t stay aligned to my wheels. Can anyone help?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  4 года назад

      I am assuming you have a threadless fork/stem. If it's clamped properly on to the fork, it shouldn't more. So I don't know what you did wrong.

    • @DNJ2000
      @DNJ2000 4 года назад

      I ended up twisting the tire around a few times until it aligned ! Thanks for your videos! Totally helped me out!

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  4 года назад

      @@DNJ2000 Oh...you were talking abut the valve stem. I was thinking the handle bar stem. I was totally confused! Yeah, that can be a pain sometimes, I usually let all the air out, and slide the tire around. Sometimes, even go as far as removing the tube and reinstalling.

  • @paulhadfield7909
    @paulhadfield7909 4 года назад

    ive done all this and the forks still judder, if i do it too tight it wont turn, too loose and it judders, so im flummoxed

    • @Drago0900
      @Drago0900 4 года назад

      Are you sure it is your headset?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  4 года назад

      Then something is wrong. Can't tell you without working on the bike.

  • @sbasalan
    @sbasalan 9 лет назад

    I wonder after all those handling bikes your hands are dirty, so how can you clean up them? Using a chemical?

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  9 лет назад +1

      +Sinan Basalan Liquid dish soap.

  • @loganbirdman4423
    @loganbirdman4423 8 лет назад

    thank man, just like mine.

  • @DIYManiacJohnP
    @DIYManiacJohnP 2 года назад

    Way too much "empty space" in the stem. The steer tube should insert into the stem and leave no more than 5mm space from top of steer tube to top of stem. Your stem's upper pinch bolt is clamping onto nothing in this set-up. Remove spacers until proper spacing is respected.

  • @cweasel00
    @cweasel00 Год назад

    Found this video very interesting but… You sure did get grease all over the place! Do you ever clean your hands after touching grease? LOL!!!!

  • @Munzer1977
    @Munzer1977 7 лет назад +6

    you probably should've removed the rust

  • @rantanplan7474
    @rantanplan7474 3 года назад

    god I'm glad I have a cartridge bearing headset. They only cost 20$ on top of that!

  • @MDRakib-ck3jh
    @MDRakib-ck3jh 3 года назад

    Legend watch this video 2021🤣

  • @donotgettmeseriously
    @donotgettmeseriously 3 года назад

    Think this is the type of stem I have. It has gotten a bit loos XD

  • @SonnyGTA
    @SonnyGTA 11 месяцев назад

    I have a BMX with very loose forks no matter what I do.

  • @leightonbishop5996
    @leightonbishop5996 4 года назад

    All my bearings came out and I can not put them back in order ,what can I do?

  • @racksonable
    @racksonable Год назад

    Perfect for emergency earthquake supple

  • @theshiftr6841
    @theshiftr6841 10 лет назад

    A big gap i ment

  • @rencesiapo3954
    @rencesiapo3954 3 года назад

    Hi?

  • @markschuette3770
    @markschuette3770 3 года назад

    do you really need that much grease !! some say just use the minimum amount of grease- otherwise to much grease can freeze up the balls from spinning??

  • @NickSmith-hv9zi
    @NickSmith-hv9zi Год назад

    Curious if there are options to get a complete headset kit for older trek Y bikes.

  • @theshiftr6841
    @theshiftr6841 10 лет назад

    Treadless

    • @RJTheBikeGuy
      @RJTheBikeGuy  10 лет назад

      Then this is what you want to do: How To Adjust A Threadless Headset

  • @charliejohnson378
    @charliejohnson378 6 лет назад

    poppa smurf is angry because you grounded up his smurf Barry's for grease