While Texas may not have all the best teams in the country, the state's overall football product (culture, fans, money, TV) has been the best, bar none, since I first saw a game back in 1999. It's basically like watching college football (in terms of production).
you're very right - and keep in mind that we have ISD's here... so for instance areas like Cy-Fair ISD have 13+ High Schools that they are broken up - each one has their own team. Katy ISD has 8 or 9 HS's... Conroe has 7 HS's etc... if these ISD's which are Independent School Districts would have 1 main campus instead of having individual high schools zoned out - the level of talent would be off the charts playing under 1 roof.
@@joez7407 I am not 100% sure on this one. If it were true Allen would still be at the Kyler Murray days level, DVille would have dominated NS, and Bosco and Mater Dei would have had more trouble in their trips to Texas recently. I don't think enrollment is the only factor, though logically you would assume so.
@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 Look how many HS's the "ISD" has within. Areas like Duncanville HS (Duncanville ISD) only has 1 HS. Westlake HS (Eanes ISD) only has 1 HS. Allen HS (Allen ISD) only has 1 HS. Southlake Carroll HS (Carroll ISD) has 1 HS. This is more prominent in the Houston / Harris and surrounding counties - where the ISD's began splitting HS's up. *Klein ISD (Klein Oak, Klein, Klein Cain, Klein Forest, Klein Collins) - 5 HS's... *Cy-Fair ISD (Cy-Fair, Bridgeland, Jersey Village, Langham Creek, Cy Creek, Cy Falls, Cy Lakes, Cy Park, Cy Ranch, Cy Ridge, Cy Springs, Cy Woods) 12 HS's... *Katy ISD (about 10-11 HS's)... *Conroe ISD (about 7-8 HS's)... and the list goes on... If you were to take Duncanville or Allen and leverage their size and student body - down here as an ISD it would be broken up into 3-5 more HS's. Which means each of those HS's are going to have their own sports teams, it means more opportunities for kids to get to play - but the collective talent you get to pool from diminishes? I hope I phrased that as I understand my own gibberish but wanna make sure I'm coming across as right. I do know that Denton ISD (Has 5 or 6 HS's - Guyer being one of them)... so guess it all depends on the ISD and whether or not they want a massive large campus or they want to split kids up and zone 'em out. So up north - let's take a Western Pennsylvania team... like Upper St. Clair or North Allegheny, Central Catholic - any of the big ones... they are just 1 HS or "1 school district".... Down here the school districts especially in the area I had talked about above - it's good from the standpoint more kids get opportunities, bad from the standpoint if at one HS you have a great RB and the rest of hte team are busters, and then have another HS with a great WR and another with a standout QB... if all those kids were playing on the same team - youre ability to compete at a much much higher level is there. I'm happy though with the way they have it. More kids get exposure to the sport and ultimately move on to the secondary and NFL... For your edification - something interesting I had learned a year or so ago- the HS with the most NFL players - Allen, TX. Pretty cool stat. The area with the most NFL players - the state of FLorida and the Houston, TX area. The silver lining. I know where I'm at in North Houston we're going to be opening up our 3rd HS - which means both programs have been fairly competitive with some good kids coming up in the pipeline but this school opens the year after next and that means they'll rezone everyone... so the talent pool diminishes...
These Texas boys refuse mater dei and bosco offers to play this season, have to give Duncanville their credit they’ll battle against anyone win or lose
A public school vs private schools where the best players in the area transfer to to get the best shot at going to the next level...I wouldn't play them either...Bring a public Cali school to Texas not some all-star baby D-1 team...
Who's refusing SJB? They came and played Allen which is up in the Dallas area. They are a 6A school. They're subpar this year - and I don't think they made it through the first round of the 6A playoffs... that said SJB slaughtered them. Seems like someone doesn't follow football as closely as they should given their mouth? As for Mater Dei or SJB or Bishop Gorman, and a few of the other *scholarship* programs - along with we can lump IMG in there as well... those schools have kids who are not from the direct area who attend those schools. Generally they're athletes that would have went to another public school. But because those institutions are kind and benevolent and think of their fellow man - they grant "scholarships" to these underprivileged young men, who just so happen to be incredible athletes. In return they get access to a world of perks they would not have received at the school they were assigned too given where they actually live. That includes the education component to that too. For Texas schools - since you don't know what you're talking about - we have what are called ISD's in the state of Texas. Each of those ISD's generally have multiple high schools. Take for instance Katy. Katy ISD (prior to the loss against Vandergrift) was ranked #17 in the nation... and has 10 High schools - including Katy High School. Most are 6A. If all of that talent within those 10 areas pulling about 600-700 kids a class were to be under 1 roof - no school district in America would touch them, same goes for Cypress-Fairbanks ISD. They have about 12-13+ High Schools, and again most if not all are 6A. Each of those High Schools have their own football team. Some ISD's here have 2, 3, 4, 5, etc... depends on how fast the area grows and whether or not the district wants to bolt on to the existing HS or if the team wants to have a dynamite sports program. You talked about Duncanville. In one area they produce an enormous amount of talent. That ISD is Duncanville ISD. They have 1 High School which is Duncanville High School that services all those kids. It is the 2nd largest High School campus in America. It's enormous. For teams like North Shore - they are part of the Galena Park ISD - there are 2 High Schools - North Shore High School and Galena Park High School. NS's service area is insanely small relative to the amount of talent that pours out of there. Words don't do it justice. Westlake is another staple in the national Top 20... They are part of Eanes ISD - where they only have 1 High School - which is Westlake High School. There are areas here where the ISD's are broken up into so many high schools that if you put the talent within the ISD that in other states - all of those kids would go to the same High School. Here it's different. So when I see someone rambling on about MD, or SJB or IMG - those teams have kids who come there or their families move there and are given free access to the school via a scholarship. You're assembling talent that isn't necessarily from the zip code where the school is located. I'm fine with those teams recruiting - but when you're doing that - you want to play "like" teams who are doing the same thing that you're doing. Which generally is what they do. They'll travel to play one another during the early part of the season, they'll go to St Frances in Baltimore, or a Chaminade-Madonna, or St. Thomas Aquinas in Florida. As for teams in Texas at the 6A level - there are 2 levels - D1 and D2. Rated the #2 and #4 hardest playoff systems in the US. There are 64 teams in each bracket both D1 & D2. That means if you're bad at math - there are 128 Texas 6A teams that are entering a multi-week meat grinder style playoff system. So some of these teams are already playing stiff competition that have solid 3*/4*/5* recruits sitting on them - the last thing you're going to want to do is waste a game early in your season playing insanely strong talent that you know has an edge because they recruit only to lose a key piece and cost a playoff run. Duncanville is a different beast - they are the sole HS within that ISD. Their ISD has chosen for whatever reason not to break that up into multiple HS's like almost every other major heavily populated ISD in Texas has. I believe that coach uses that as a barometer as well. I would say as a last note - this is fact you can look it up - the 3 states who by a long shot who have the most NFL players, and side note - California isn't one of them. Florida, Texas, and Georgia. 30% with the bulk coming from FL & TX. So apparently for as big as California is - they just fail to deliver the high quality talent at the end of the day... ;) Just FYI.
@@joez7407 Yours was a very well written comment from someone who knows Texas ball. I do have one thing I'd like to point out. Both Duncanville and Allen got blasted, even though they are the very definition of the monster high schools you say would crush the rest of the country. I just think enrollment isn't everything. Here in Cali we have some insanely large schools getting pummeled on a yearly basis. As for NS, I understand if teams aren't too keen on playing MD or Bosco because of whatever perceived advantages they have as private schools. I know Texas separates publics and privates except for 2 big time programs. What I would love to see is NS take on Miami Central. That would be bananas.
While Texas may not have all the best teams in the country, the state's overall football product (culture, fans, money, TV) has been the best, bar none, since I first saw a game back in 1999. It's basically like watching college football (in terms of production).
you're very right - and keep in mind that we have ISD's here... so for instance areas like Cy-Fair ISD have 13+ High Schools that they are broken up - each one has their own team. Katy ISD has 8 or 9 HS's... Conroe has 7 HS's etc... if these ISD's which are Independent School Districts would have 1 main campus instead of having individual high schools zoned out - the level of talent would be off the charts playing under 1 roof.
@@joez7407 I am not 100% sure on this one. If it were true Allen would still be at the Kyler Murray days level, DVille would have dominated NS, and Bosco and Mater Dei would have had more trouble in their trips to Texas recently. I don't think enrollment is the only factor, though logically you would assume so.
@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 Look how many HS's the "ISD" has within. Areas like Duncanville HS (Duncanville ISD) only has 1 HS. Westlake HS (Eanes ISD) only has 1 HS. Allen HS (Allen ISD) only has 1 HS. Southlake Carroll HS (Carroll ISD) has 1 HS.
This is more prominent in the Houston / Harris and surrounding counties - where the ISD's began splitting HS's up.
*Klein ISD (Klein Oak, Klein, Klein Cain, Klein Forest, Klein Collins) - 5 HS's...
*Cy-Fair ISD (Cy-Fair, Bridgeland, Jersey Village, Langham Creek, Cy Creek, Cy Falls, Cy Lakes, Cy Park, Cy Ranch, Cy Ridge, Cy Springs, Cy Woods) 12 HS's...
*Katy ISD (about 10-11 HS's)...
*Conroe ISD (about 7-8 HS's)...
and the list goes on...
If you were to take Duncanville or Allen and leverage their size and student body - down here as an ISD it would be broken up into 3-5 more HS's. Which means each of those HS's are going to have their own sports teams, it means more opportunities for kids to get to play - but the collective talent you get to pool from diminishes? I hope I phrased that as I understand my own gibberish but wanna make sure I'm coming across as right. I do know that Denton ISD (Has 5 or 6 HS's - Guyer being one of them)... so guess it all depends on the ISD and whether or not they want a massive large campus or they want to split kids up and zone 'em out.
So up north - let's take a Western Pennsylvania team... like Upper St. Clair or North Allegheny, Central Catholic - any of the big ones... they are just 1 HS or "1 school district".... Down here the school districts especially in the area I had talked about above - it's good from the standpoint more kids get opportunities, bad from the standpoint if at one HS you have a great RB and the rest of hte team are busters, and then have another HS with a great WR and another with a standout QB... if all those kids were playing on the same team - youre ability to compete at a much much higher level is there. I'm happy though with the way they have it. More kids get exposure to the sport and ultimately move on to the secondary and NFL...
For your edification - something interesting I had learned a year or so ago- the HS with the most NFL players - Allen, TX. Pretty cool stat. The area with the most NFL players - the state of FLorida and the Houston, TX area. The silver lining.
I know where I'm at in North Houston we're going to be opening up our 3rd HS - which means both programs have been fairly competitive with some good kids coming up in the pipeline but this school opens the year after next and that means they'll rezone everyone... so the talent pool diminishes...
We don't recruit like IMG and Mater Dei. We have all texas players on our squads.
@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536when you recruit players all that bs about enrollment goes out the window
I was at that game and it was good until the 4th quarter north shore just to good. Just couldn’t tackle
Referee’s tried their very best to get the chaps a win. Sorry that didn’t work out for y’all! NORTH SHORE WINNING STATE AGAIN!
You’re just chattin
@@Ledgic-TM actually just stating facts…
@@angelWWG1WGA while simultaneously bringing up none, good job
@@Ledgic-TM incorrect
@@Ledgic-TM watch the game..refs wanted the snowflakes to win but to much speed and talent from Houston
What happened to freshman phenom North Shore quarterback from last year?
torn acl earlier in the year. NS star receiver took over in his role.
Wow that dude not being able to wrap up on that punt return really hurt them
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These Texas boys refuse mater dei and bosco offers to play this season, have to give Duncanville their credit they’ll battle against anyone win or lose
Proof?
A public school vs private schools where the best players in the area transfer to to get the best shot at going to the next level...I wouldn't play them either...Bring a public Cali school to Texas not some all-star baby D-1 team...
Who's refusing SJB? They came and played Allen which is up in the Dallas area. They are a 6A school. They're subpar this year - and I don't think they made it through the first round of the 6A playoffs... that said SJB slaughtered them. Seems like someone doesn't follow football as closely as they should given their mouth?
As for Mater Dei or SJB or Bishop Gorman, and a few of the other *scholarship* programs - along with we can lump IMG in there as well... those schools have kids who are not from the direct area who attend those schools. Generally they're athletes that would have went to another public school. But because those institutions are kind and benevolent and think of their fellow man - they grant "scholarships" to these underprivileged young men, who just so happen to be incredible athletes. In return they get access to a world of perks they would not have received at the school they were assigned too given where they actually live. That includes the education component to that too.
For Texas schools - since you don't know what you're talking about - we have what are called ISD's in the state of Texas. Each of those ISD's generally have multiple high schools. Take for instance Katy. Katy ISD (prior to the loss against Vandergrift) was ranked #17 in the nation... and has 10 High schools - including Katy High School. Most are 6A. If all of that talent within those 10 areas pulling about 600-700 kids a class were to be under 1 roof - no school district in America would touch them, same goes for Cypress-Fairbanks ISD. They have about 12-13+ High Schools, and again most if not all are 6A. Each of those High Schools have their own football team. Some ISD's here have 2, 3, 4, 5, etc... depends on how fast the area grows and whether or not the district wants to bolt on to the existing HS or if the team wants to have a dynamite sports program.
You talked about Duncanville. In one area they produce an enormous amount of talent. That ISD is Duncanville ISD. They have 1 High School which is Duncanville High School that services all those kids. It is the 2nd largest High School campus in America. It's enormous. For teams like North Shore - they are part of the Galena Park ISD - there are 2 High Schools - North Shore High School and Galena Park High School. NS's service area is insanely small relative to the amount of talent that pours out of there. Words don't do it justice. Westlake is another staple in the national Top 20... They are part of Eanes ISD - where they only have 1 High School - which is Westlake High School. There are areas here where the ISD's are broken up into so many high schools that if you put the talent within the ISD that in other states - all of those kids would go to the same High School. Here it's different.
So when I see someone rambling on about MD, or SJB or IMG - those teams have kids who come there or their families move there and are given free access to the school via a scholarship. You're assembling talent that isn't necessarily from the zip code where the school is located. I'm fine with those teams recruiting - but when you're doing that - you want to play "like" teams who are doing the same thing that you're doing. Which generally is what they do. They'll travel to play one another during the early part of the season, they'll go to St Frances in Baltimore, or a Chaminade-Madonna, or St. Thomas Aquinas in Florida.
As for teams in Texas at the 6A level - there are 2 levels - D1 and D2. Rated the #2 and #4 hardest playoff systems in the US. There are 64 teams in each bracket both D1 & D2. That means if you're bad at math - there are 128 Texas 6A teams that are entering a multi-week meat grinder style playoff system. So some of these teams are already playing stiff competition that have solid 3*/4*/5* recruits sitting on them - the last thing you're going to want to do is waste a game early in your season playing insanely strong talent that you know has an edge because they recruit only to lose a key piece and cost a playoff run. Duncanville is a different beast - they are the sole HS within that ISD. Their ISD has chosen for whatever reason not to break that up into multiple HS's like almost every other major heavily populated ISD in Texas has. I believe that coach uses that as a barometer as well.
I would say as a last note - this is fact you can look it up - the 3 states who by a long shot who have the most NFL players, and side note - California isn't one of them. Florida, Texas, and Georgia. 30% with the bulk coming from FL & TX. So apparently for as big as California is - they just fail to deliver the high quality talent at the end of the day... ;)
Just FYI.
@@joez7407 Yours was a very well written comment from someone who knows Texas ball. I do have one thing I'd like to point out. Both Duncanville and Allen got blasted, even though they are the very definition of the monster high schools you say would crush the rest of the country. I just think enrollment isn't everything. Here in Cali we have some insanely large schools getting pummeled on a yearly basis. As for NS, I understand if teams aren't too keen on playing MD or Bosco because of whatever perceived advantages they have as private schools. I know Texas separates publics and privates except for 2 big time programs. What I would love to see is NS take on Miami Central. That would be bananas.
And they go to usc and get blown out by Texas players that play on Utahs team. Gtfoh