In the 1870's the "republican" party in the U.S. was the liberal party and the democrats were the conservative party. That has flipped since that time.
I have found this out a few years ago and I’m glad that someone else has to. I had learned this just before a family reunion. To my surprise, one of my cousins basically said that the Democrats were the party of the klan. Well, I had to tell him of my newfound information about the Democrats initially were the conservative party that started the clan, and the Republicans were the liberals. I shut him up real fast.
@@timothypanngam2249 the Democrats forced the sterilization of people of color till 1977 then promoted we do it to ourselves what never changed is that they are racist they just pretend their evik is for our own good, same as always, new tactic same outcomes.
@@crazybirdybird4312 Democrat laws, Democrats lost the Civil War, Democrats imposed Jim Crow and Democrats forcefully sterilized us black folks till 1977 then promoted we do it to ourselves. When they say the parties flipped it’s a lie. Democrats are evil.
If you ever react to any Billie Holiday songs (jazz) - be sure to listen to "Strange Fruit". It's about her touring in the South and seeing black people who were lynched hanging from trees.
The British press rightly condemned the Emancipation Proclamation. It only freed slaves in the Confederate States and not the Union States that still practiced Slavery. It was done mostly to cause a slave revolt in the Confederacy and mass desertion in the Confederate Army.
@@surfdog_29 No it us not a revision of history. It is the truth and if you had ever actually bothered to read the Emancipation Proclamation you would know that. When it was issued the Union was loosing the war due to the Generals being bad and overly cautious.
I was born in 1963 to older parents. Dad from Ohio (1916-1981), Mom Texas (1923-2008). Both lived under segregation laws. Dad's family was Native and African American. Mom's family hailed from Louisiana following the crops as migrant workers, late share cropping. Her mother spoke Carole but had to use slave vernacular when working as a housekeeper otherwise white employers might think you were uppity. Having to yield the sidewalk for whites, waiting to be served at a market. Whites went first. Riding the back of the bus meant entering and paying at the front, exiting the bus to then enter in the back. If the bus was full of whites, blacks had to get off the bus. An employer could have you jailed by their word, " You stole something." These and other stories are true. This is what today's Republicans want to bring back to Make America Great Again. They want to undue the Civil Rights Act.
Meanwhile Democrats are the ones pushing for black only ceremonies black only this, BLM that... Segregation in any form is not acceptable. Saying that a white person cannot access a "multicultural center" because they are white... What type of white are we talking about? You do realize there was a point in time where storefronts would advertise help wanted with the phrase "blacks and Irish need not apply".... Last I checked most Irish were also white 🤷♀️. Having laws regarding companies being required to have so many diversity hires equates into them basically saying that those people are not able to qualify for the job without that law in place. Which translates to segregation and belittling those people who would be qualified regardless of race 🤷♀️ there are white people in the slums, and there are black people in mansions. But when they go to apply for scholarships or jobs the black people in mansions are given extra consideration based on their skin color.... Crap happened in the past. I am not going to deny that. But we are also multiple generations from when that was a factor. Promoting the idea of racism in any way shape or form should not be tolerated, even if it's against a white person I am not belittling what your parents went through. It is atrocious that that was the case within their lifetime. I'm just saying that continuing it on, to the opposite end of the spectrum, should not be tolerated
You should check out videos on the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s, when monumental changes were made in the US. The 1960s were a decade of massive upheaval in the US with the Civil Rights movement, the Vietnam War peace movement and the hippies, the Women's liberation movement, the gay rights movements. All of this social change made for some of America's best TV shows in the 70s as they addressed these issues. I was a kid in the 70s when these ideas were still very new and caused some heated arguments within the family.
Democrat laws, Democrats lost the Civil War, Democrats imposed Jim Crow and Democrats forcefully sterilized us black folks till 1977 then promoted we do it to ourselves. When they say the parties flipped it’s a lie people hide that history but you probably remember Hilary’s friend Robert Byrd grand wizard of TheKKK.
One example of Jim Crow was that black people had to ride in the back of the bus. But there is more to it. When a bus pulled up to a stop all the white passengers got on first. Then the black passengers would have to go in the front door, pay their fare, then exit and enter the bus by the rear door. Some drivers would drive off before the black passengers who paid their fare could get back on. Also there was a line separating the white and black sections of the bus. If the white section filled up and another white passenger got on the line was moved back so 4 black passengers would have to move so the 1white passenger could sit. This is what happened to Rosa Parks and she refused to move.
The Civil War was between the Northern states and the Southern states mostly about slavery. The north wanted to abolish slavery and the south didn't as they were living very wealthy lives using slaves for labor on their plantations or farms. The underground railroad was a series of safe houses etc., that helped slaves escape to the northern states to start new free lives.
North was Republican south was Democrats they call the Republican Party the GOP because The Grand Old Party freed the slaves and Democrats enslaved them. Then Democrats imposed Jim Crow.
@@JohnRichards-hh5dz North Republicans against South Democrats. Democrats are still against the right to own and defend yourself and your property they changed the marketing from "we are superior" to "we are superior but we love you, so do what we say for your own good" they are still racist they just pretend they care.
Studying the development of cultural factions will help with the understanding. I am white, heritage of three European countries. Mostly, because European immigrants (excluding my British ancestors) didn't speak English, they lived in enclaves with people speaking the same language. There were Norwegian events and German events my great grandparents attended. My grandparents were bilingual. The social isolation decreased. My parents' generation resisted learning the "old language" and fully emersed in community wide cultural activities. Slavery and Jim Crow prohibited blacks from being involved in the majority culture activities for 350 years. So what happened? Blacks created their own social culture. Some of those cultural traditions still exist today. When people are excluded, they don't sit around and do nothing. And observing today's U.S. conservative party, there are bold, non-apologetic factions that still hold those racist, Jim Crow beliefs. My family still goes to a Norwegian smorgasbord breakfast. Is that self-segregating? In my urban city I am not aware of any events that are "black only" and other races are excluded.
@@gargadow not in the past, now. Some school have requested black only graduations, dorms, etc. Wasn't that long ago a few young women had a fit there were white guys studying in the multi cultural room.
@@TeeCG No, I'm not the one that is clueless. Some school have requested black only graduations, dorms, etc. Wasn't that long ago a few young women had a fit there were white guys studying in the multi cultural room.
I cannot fault you for what you don’t know. Plus, if I’m not mistaken, you’re from the UK so I don’t expect you to know American history. Big piece of advice. DON’T guess what you don’t know. Just don’t know. You’ll learn where pieces fit as you learn more. Yes! This is SUPER layered so please not guessing where things fit. You’ll end up placing a 1960’s fact into an 1800’s time frame. Let the pieces you have fall into place on it’s own.
My daughter and I had traveled to Alabama to live for awhile, and when we were in Georgia we saw the large crowd gathered when Rosa Parks had died. I suppose it was the funeral procession
Thanks for this #flexer. Whilst I know the outline of the ÙSA's segregation (I'm 62 yrs old in the UK ànd white. Times like this I'm embarrassed to be white) and laws against black people it was fascinating to learn of things like black people having to let white people through at stop signs! I'm enjoying learning with you #flexer. ❤💖
No "Pinch of Salt" He hasn't said anything that isn't entirely correct. In fact he's holding back only because the issues are much more complex than that.
You definitely need to watch some videos on Martin Luther King! He is an American icon and every January we all celebrate Martin Luther King Day. Malcom X is another black activist who has an amazing story as well.
❤❤❤Being from Australia, this is so interesting and informative. What I can't understand is why so many African American's are so loyal to the Democratic Party. I'm really enjoying this type of content. Much love 💞
We had a big party switch over in the 60s when Democrats passed a new civil rights act. The old Democrats became Republicans. More to it than that, but basically that. Same asshole, different party.
First of all, racism isn't exclusive to one political party. Jim Crow was an American institution of laws and both parties were complicit. European Americans were complicit in every level of government. Many black people were Republicans at the time when they were a progressive, liberal party. In those days, the Democratic party was the party of the conservatives but that all changed during the civil rights movement. The parties of yesterday are not the same as today. When people don't understand, it's almost an insult to black people, as if we don't know what is going on when we were the ones who had to face it head on. If you want knowledge, it's easy to find, and then ask yourself why the Republican party is trying to completely erase black history right now.
It's true that the Republican Party was the party of emancipation in 1860. The Democratic Party was pro-slavery. After the civil war there was a gradual shift in political positions. This was mostly due to economics. After the War of Rebellion (the legal, Congressional Record name for the war. Daughters of the Confederacy are mostly responsible for the term Civil War - literally white-washing the history of the South, trying to soft-pedal the truth), the South was economically strapped. Mostly agricultural and poor. The North was more affluent and the home of most of the businesses from the Industrial Revolution. Both parties catered to their populations. Democrats gradually advocated for the working man and Republicans answered the call to do the bidding of big business. The change was gradual over a span of 80 years. So black loyalty to the Democratic Party is historically valid. Republicans actively fought against all of the Civil Rights issues of the 1960s.
Watch Thomas Sowell and Forgotten History videos as well. This guy was being pretty fair. The KKK was started by the Democrats mainly in the South. Martin Luther King was a Republican. Now the South is mainly Republican and the North is mainly Democrat. Check out Thomas Sowell s What they didnt teach me in school about slavery. Its not a long video. It might have some things you didnt know. Following your journey.
@@judithmccrea2601 Who are you talking to? No one on this thread made this video and the person that did make it wouldn't know what you're talking about.
I so appreciate your reaction from the point of view of your generation because I think that is more important globally to the whole discussion. Race is secondary to the bottom line of just being people. I know I'm stating the obvious, but it's generations that are taking away the power of outdated traditions and favoring what's actually right. Human is human...stop differentiating in a negative way.
Hoping to keep dissapating the old ways of thinking that linked people to value based upon how they looked. Very deep, more than most typical white people would like, but essential to any real progress forward. That race means nothing yet personality is allowed to thrive.
I live in Louisiana and even in my lifetime I lived in the age where we couldn’t go in certain restaurants or we had to eat in the back. Also there were separate schools for blacks and whites. Just saying it hasn’t been that long ago.
There is a huge irony in the fact that the USA went to war to defeat nazism when there was such a massive, politically established racist system in place in the USA. Britain had its own issue because of the empire. I’d argue that it was actually because of the war that America had to face the truth that nazism revealed, that racism is abhorrent and absolutely unjustifiable, and so is nationalism - despite the fact that Americans fought “for their country”. For example, when are you “pure” enough to be allowed to vote, own property, etc. what if you’re HALF white and the other half is “WRONG” ie black, Jewish, Irish etc. Maybe a half human should not be allowed to vote. But if you’re 3/4 white? What if a 3/4 white has children with a 7/8 white? Maybe they get a half vote??? It’s all so clearly absurd and just politicians making power from the worst side of human nature, and the end result is the Holocaust. American and British troops liberated death camps in 1945 and what they saw was fucking disgusting.
SOME BACKGROUND ON RACISM IN THE USA During the colonial period, slavery was allowed in all of the colonies, however, it was found in large-scale mainly in the warmer Southern colonies with longer agricultural seasons. In the north, it was more associated with house servants. This system was established by the British to make money. Free labor produced raw goods that were shipped to Britain to be made into various things, or as food stuffs to feed the population. After independence, the wealthy slave owners had no desire to end the practice. The whole system of American government has all sorts of peculiarities that were initially enshrined to protect slavery. When the majority of Southern states decided to leave the union, it created civil war. The pro-slavery side lost and was put under Reconstruction [a process to rebuild and racially integrate the South]. The election of Rutherford Hayes [a Republican] was murky and the election decision was tossed to the Congress. An agreement was made that Hayes would serve only 1 term, and he would end Reconstruction. After that, segregation came to the South and black folks were marginalized and terrorized until 1964. Under the presidency of Franklin Roosevelt [Democrat], a group of progressives took the reigns of the party and began to move it away from its racist image. His VP turned President, Harry Truman, racially integrated the armed forces. Under President Lyndon Johnson [Democrat from Texas], segregation ended in the South and many white Southerners felt betrayed. Richard Nixon [Republican] began a plan known as the Southern Strategy that was meant to bring those disgruntled Southerners into the Republican Party. By 1980, that was accomplished and Ronald Reagan was elected as a member of the New Right wing of the party. This left the Democrats as a center-left party, no longer concerned with a far right Southern wing, and the Republican Party no longer an elitist party of the upper classes of the East Coast, but a party dominated by Southern Whites, Evangelical Christians and think tanks promoting Supply Side Economics and Strength thru Peace foreign policies. Under Newt Gingrich [Republican], a former Speaker of the House, the party pushed even farther right. Racism, which was usually disguised with code words and polite language came into the open. The Tea Party Movement went even more to the right, and conspiracy theories began to be accepted within the ranks of the Republican Party. Under Trump, the party has moved away from its internationalist-interventionist policies to protect American business interests and towards a nationalist-isolationist stance with authoritarian aspects. What the future may hold is anyone's guess. If Trump wins, I would expect a very dark future. If he does not win, the party might continue along similar lines, or it might revert back to its former self as under Reagan, but probably not back to its more moderate 1950s style.
To understand what led up to Jim Crow and beyond, you need to go further back in history when the colonies were established. There were European and African, as well as Native servants in the beginning. The power struggle was originally between the wealthy gentry and the working class, master and servant, not "race", a concept that was invented to sustain slavery and the profits of that labor.
He keeps saying "The Southern hemisphere of the United States!" There's no such thing as the Southern hemisphere begins at the equator! Of course he means the Southern part of the United States.
You had me until you said "victim mentality". That's a dogwhistle code that the ones 'not like us' usually use and a lot of folks not from the US believe. But if stuff is still being done to us, then it's not victim mentality to be as vocal as we want in calling it out. Look more into redlining, food deserts, Black farmers vs the us govt, etc.
But if it's _not_ still being done to you...and most of what was being done to us in the 1950s is _not_ being done today...and you still have the mindset that that its all being done to you today, then you _do_ have a victim mindset.
@kirkdarling4120 It depends on where you live. The Jim Crow systems and laws that were put in place can still be felt in some areas although not overtly, especially in the South. Unfortunately, there is still work to do. Invalidating the experiences of others because they don't personally affect you is not the way to get justice for EVERYONE even though things have improved. Also, fighting for what's right is not being a victim.
@@kirkdarling4120 this is probably one of the dumbest and most clueless comments I've read. Being aware and intolerant to discrimination is far from playing a victim. If you think just because the blatant segregation era tactics aren't happening every day, then you're also a fool. You can continue to be a doormat if you want but this so called victim mentality that you think people have won't tolerate it. It takes more than 50 years to make 400 years of oppression just disappear
People think of history as boring. But when you actually start to learn from it is amazing how interesting it is. And learning about it, and from it, is the only way to make sure that we don't repeat it. There are a lot of great ideas that sound amazing when you talk about them. But when you look at instances where those ideas were actually put into practice, you realize how detrimental to society they could be. And we are currently looking at a society that is trying to go back to these times. Only they're flipping the script. Trying to say that the black only graduation ceremonies are to empower the blacks, where in reality it's just another form of segregation packaged in a more brightly colored box 🤷♀️. They phrase it now as if racism is okay, as long as it's against white people... Because of how "in control they've always been". But at the end of the day it's just another way to keep us divided and hating each other. At the end of the day if we are fighting amongst ourselves, we aren't paying as much attention to what "they" (the ones in charge - regardless of color) are doing
All I read was we can do it to y'all but we will throw a hissy fit if y'all do it to us. Lol. and smh. And racism is still a today thing so don't try to flip the script. And why can't we have something just for us for once? Whats so wrong with that? It doesn't mean we are racist bc we want to enjoy things with just us. Yall did it for years and year and years
@@KbHarlem-t3s then you obviously misinterpreted what I was saying. I tried to make it very clear that it is not right in any way shape or form. Put the idea of "we want to enjoy it without you all" just keeps the separation going. I don't think it is right for any side to separate against the other. Flipping the script because "it's our turn now"just keeps the segregation going. It does not fix the issue in any way. The only way to fix it, is to move past it and stop it on both sides
He is wrong about the name Jim Crow it was not a derogatory name at first. Jim, where did the name Jim come from, Well black Africans had African names so many of them were named JIM. Crow, were did Crow come from, it was a common name for any field worker of any skin tone, it came from the scarecrow i.e. a man standing in a field. So once blacks were working the field the name Jim Crow was used to say (field worker) it was not until after the Jim Crow laws were put into effect that the name Jim Crow became a derogatory name. For that it was not, they would even use the term Crow for white field workers. That is how Jim Crow got its name. So Jim meant black man or slave, Crow meant field worker Jim Crow, a white field worker was just called a Crow.
As far taking this with a pinch of salt. Slavery wasn’t well documented and facts on it were heavily skewed depending on who’s recounting what happened. The truth of it is somewhere in the middle. Not all whites were horrible. Few blacks got lucky here and there and didn’t have it as hard and majority. Truth is somewhere in the middle. Jim Crow however is a heavily documented time period in American history where most of what’s told of the unfairness happened.
Slavery is extremely well documented. There are contemporarily written treatises on slavery by both northerners and southerners of the day. There are newspaper articles, court trial records, scholarly university documentation, photography, and political statements galore on slavery, from the 1600s through the Civil War. There in no dearth of documentation of slavery. It's just that some people don't want to acknowledge the documentation.
@@kirkdarling4120 So you telling me at a time where being black was openly seen as subhuman, I am to wholeheartedly trust the written documents of that time frame like no facts were omitted? Naw.. I’m good. Atrocities happened beyond imagining and everything is NOT documented. Discernment of fact and fabrication is needed. I’m not saying I don’t believe anything that was documented, I’m also not saying I would believe everything that is documented either. Documentation post slavery is more accurate(not completely accurate) We skew information fabricate narrative and more NOW but there’s a better sense of sifting through what happened and what didn’t in more recent times than back then. There are those who see slavery as only it’s amalgamation of all its atrocities and then there are those who see slavery and try to deconstruct the atrocities to make it fit a narrative that ALL WHITE people weren’t bad. My argument to that statement is “no shxt ALL whites people weren’t that bad but trying to use that to make light of what DID happen to ease your guilt for what your ancestors did is stupid. It goes as far as some thinking blacks as a whole loved being enslaved. Brainwashing and Stockholm syndrome don’t count. Forced to learn a new language. A couple generations and a majority speak broken English now. People were born and die knowing nothing but enslavement. Even if they said they like it. Is they saying it because it’s all they know?, because they fear what master might do if they said they didn’t like it? You get the point. My point is, it’s real fuzzy sorting through the facts of slavery at times.
They don’t teach American history outside of America that’s why. Or so I’ve been told. It’s the reason everyone think we over exaggerate our experiences.
This was real actual racism. This is not what people try to call racism today. Now if you even accidentally looked at a different ethnicity cross eyed they start screaming racism. We have come worlds away from actual racism. If you want a factual unbiased view of history I would check out Thomas Sowell and Prager U videos. Thomas Sowell is one of the world's foremost economists. He's well into his 80s now and still working. He's black and actually grew up under Jim Crow
It's awfully white and ignorant for you to use your pathetic idea of what real racism is. It's obvious that you've never had to deal with it before and it's so insulting for white people to try to downplay the actual racism that still exists in this country. I'm sure it must make you feel real good about yourself. I guarantee you wouldn't trade places with a black man for a day. Racism is racism, don't try to give your watered down views. It's clear when you recommend Sowell and say that his views are unbiased when he is clearly a conservative with biased views. Some of you must forget that there are still a lot of black people who are still alive with real stories of truth and facts, we don't need to hear about your rosy ideas about the lives that we've lived every day.
My daughter and I had traveled to Alabama to live for awhile, and when we were in Georgia we saw the large crowd gathered when Rosa Parks had died. I suppose it was the funeral procession
In the 1870's the "republican" party in the U.S. was the liberal party and the democrats were the conservative party. That has flipped since that time.
I have found this out a few years ago and I’m glad that someone else has to.
I had learned this just before a family reunion. To my surprise, one of my cousins basically said that the Democrats were the party of the klan. Well, I had to tell him of my newfound information about the Democrats initially were the conservative party that started the clan, and the Republicans were the liberals. I shut him up real fast.
@@timothypanngam2249 the Democrats forced the sterilization of people of color till 1977 then promoted we do it to ourselves what never changed is that they are racist they just pretend their evik is for our own good, same as always, new tactic same outcomes.
That's a myth.
@@crazybirdybird4312 Democrat laws, Democrats lost the Civil War, Democrats imposed Jim Crow and Democrats forcefully sterilized us black folks till 1977 then promoted we do it to ourselves. When they say the parties flipped it’s a lie. Democrats are evil.
@@crazybirdybird4312 No it literally isn't. It's a well known proven fact by multiple credible sources.
The past is never dead. It's not even past
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You could spend years studying black history in the United States.
If you ever react to any Billie Holiday songs (jazz) - be sure to listen to "Strange Fruit". It's about her touring in the South and seeing black people who were lynched hanging from trees.
Absolutely.
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The convict leasing aspect was covered well on PBS film based on the book Slavery by Another Name
The British press rightly condemned the Emancipation Proclamation.
It only freed slaves in the Confederate States and not the Union States that still practiced Slavery. It was done mostly to cause a slave revolt in the Confederacy and mass desertion in the Confederate Army.
Hush, rebel revisionist.
@@surfdog_29 No it us not a revision of history. It is the truth and if you had ever actually bothered to read the Emancipation Proclamation you would know that.
When it was issued the Union was loosing the war due to the Generals being bad and overly cautious.
@ insane hippiehippieinsane3828. The Emancipation Proclamation was issued only after a Union victory in 1863.
@@QuisletEsq The Emancipation Proclamation was January 1st 1863.
The Civil War ended on April 9th 1865.
So your are wrong.
There was no slavery in the north. Who are you?
I was born in 1963 to older parents. Dad from Ohio (1916-1981), Mom Texas (1923-2008). Both lived under segregation laws. Dad's family was Native and African American. Mom's family hailed from Louisiana following the crops as migrant workers, late share cropping. Her mother spoke Carole but had to use slave vernacular when working as a housekeeper otherwise white employers might think you were uppity. Having to yield the sidewalk for whites, waiting to be served at a market. Whites went first. Riding the back of the bus meant entering and paying at the front, exiting the bus to then enter in the back. If the bus was full of whites, blacks had to get off the bus. An employer could have you jailed by their word, " You stole something." These and other stories are true. This is what today's Republicans want to bring back to Make America Great Again. They want to undue the Civil Rights Act.
Meanwhile Democrats are the ones pushing for black only ceremonies black only this, BLM that...
Segregation in any form is not acceptable. Saying that a white person cannot access a "multicultural center" because they are white... What type of white are we talking about? You do realize there was a point in time where storefronts would advertise help wanted with the phrase "blacks and Irish need not apply".... Last I checked most Irish were also white 🤷♀️.
Having laws regarding companies being required to have so many diversity hires equates into them basically saying that those people are not able to qualify for the job without that law in place. Which translates to segregation and belittling those people who would be qualified regardless of race 🤷♀️ there are white people in the slums, and there are black people in mansions. But when they go to apply for scholarships or jobs the black people in mansions are given extra consideration based on their skin color....
Crap happened in the past. I am not going to deny that. But we are also multiple generations from when that was a factor. Promoting the idea of racism in any way shape or form should not be tolerated, even if it's against a white person
I am not belittling what your parents went through. It is atrocious that that was the case within their lifetime. I'm just saying that continuing it on, to the opposite end of the spectrum, should not be tolerated
You should check out videos on the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s, when monumental changes were made in the US. The 1960s were a decade of massive upheaval in the US with the Civil Rights movement, the Vietnam War peace movement and the hippies, the Women's liberation movement, the gay rights movements. All of this social change made for some of America's best TV shows in the 70s as they addressed these issues. I was a kid in the 70s when these ideas were still very new and caused some heated arguments within the family.
Democrat laws, Democrats lost the Civil War, Democrats imposed Jim Crow and Democrats forcefully sterilized us black folks till 1977 then promoted we do it to ourselves. When they say the parties flipped it’s a lie people hide that history but you probably remember Hilary’s friend Robert Byrd grand wizard of TheKKK.
One example of Jim Crow was that black people had to ride in the back of the bus. But there is more to it.
When a bus pulled up to a stop all the white passengers got on first. Then the black passengers would have to go in the front door, pay their fare, then exit and enter the bus by the rear door. Some drivers would drive off before the black passengers who paid their fare could get back on.
Also there was a line separating the white and black sections of the bus. If the white section filled up and another white passenger got on the line was moved back so 4 black passengers would have to move so the 1white passenger could sit. This is what happened to Rosa Parks and she refused to move.
The Civil War was between the Northern states and the Southern states mostly about slavery. The north wanted to abolish slavery and the south didn't as they were living very wealthy lives using slaves for labor on their plantations or farms. The underground railroad was a series of safe houses etc., that helped slaves escape to the northern states to start new free lives.
North was Republican south was Democrats they call the Republican Party the GOP because The Grand Old Party freed the slaves and Democrats enslaved them. Then Democrats imposed Jim Crow.
Ok
@@JohnRichards-hh5dz North Republicans against South Democrats. Democrats are still against the right to own and defend yourself and your property they changed the marketing from "we are superior" to "we are superior but we love you, so do what we say for your own good" they are still racist they just pretend they care.
The segregation of Jim Crow is why I don't understand why some black people today are self segregating with their black only events.
If your interpretation is self segregation, that just means you're absolutely clueless. Obviously you'll never understand.
Studying the development of cultural factions will help with the understanding. I am white, heritage of three European countries. Mostly, because European immigrants (excluding my British ancestors) didn't speak English, they lived in enclaves with people speaking the same language. There were Norwegian events and German events my great grandparents attended. My grandparents were bilingual. The social isolation decreased. My parents' generation resisted learning the "old language" and fully emersed in community wide cultural activities. Slavery and Jim Crow prohibited blacks from being involved in the majority culture activities for 350 years. So what happened? Blacks created their own social culture. Some of those cultural traditions still exist today. When people are excluded, they don't sit around and do nothing. And observing today's U.S. conservative party, there are bold, non-apologetic factions that still hold those racist, Jim Crow beliefs. My family still goes to a Norwegian smorgasbord breakfast. Is that self-segregating? In my urban city I am not aware of any events that are "black only" and other races are excluded.
No such thing as "black only" events. You are clueless.
@@gargadow not in the past, now. Some school have requested black only graduations, dorms, etc. Wasn't that long ago a few young women had a fit there were white guys studying in the multi cultural room.
@@TeeCG No, I'm not the one that is clueless. Some school have requested black only graduations, dorms, etc. Wasn't that long ago a few young women had a fit there were white guys studying in the multi cultural room.
I cannot fault you for what you don’t know. Plus, if I’m not mistaken, you’re from the UK so I don’t expect you to know American history. Big piece of advice. DON’T guess what you don’t know. Just don’t know. You’ll learn where pieces fit as you learn more. Yes! This is SUPER layered so please not guessing where things fit. You’ll end up placing a 1960’s fact into an 1800’s time frame. Let the pieces you have fall into place on it’s own.
Watch the movie Mississippi Burning. True story by the way.
My daughter and I had traveled to Alabama to live for awhile, and when we were in Georgia we saw the large crowd gathered when Rosa Parks had died. I suppose it was the funeral procession
Thanks for this #flexer. Whilst I know the outline of the ÙSA's segregation (I'm 62 yrs old in the UK ànd white. Times like this I'm embarrassed to be white) and laws against black people it was fascinating to learn of things like black people having to let white people through at stop signs! I'm enjoying learning with you #flexer. ❤💖
No "Pinch of Salt" He hasn't said anything that isn't entirely correct. In fact he's holding back only because the issues are much more complex than that.
You definitely need to watch some videos on Martin Luther King! He is an American icon and every January we all celebrate Martin Luther King Day. Malcom X is another black activist who has an amazing story as well.
I truly believe that man was a living saint. There will never be another.
I think watching"Eyes on the prize" !! Imo its the best civil rights documentary!!!
❤❤❤Being from Australia, this is so interesting and informative. What I can't understand is why so many African American's are so loyal to the Democratic Party. I'm really enjoying this type of content. Much love 💞
We had a big party switch over in the 60s when Democrats passed a new civil rights act. The old Democrats became Republicans. More to it than that, but basically that. Same asshole, different party.
First of all, racism isn't exclusive to one political party. Jim Crow was an American institution of laws and both parties were complicit. European Americans were complicit in every level of government. Many black people were Republicans at the time when they were a progressive, liberal party. In those days, the Democratic party was the party of the conservatives but that all changed during the civil rights movement. The parties of yesterday are not the same as today. When people don't understand, it's almost an insult to black people, as if we don't know what is going on when we were the ones who had to face it head on. If you want knowledge, it's easy to find, and then ask yourself why the Republican party is trying to completely erase black history right now.
It's true that the Republican Party was the party of emancipation in 1860. The Democratic Party was pro-slavery. After the civil war there was a gradual shift in political positions. This was mostly due to economics. After the War of Rebellion (the legal, Congressional Record name for the war. Daughters of the Confederacy are mostly responsible for the term Civil War - literally white-washing the history of the South, trying to soft-pedal the truth), the South was economically strapped. Mostly agricultural and poor. The North was more affluent and the home of most of the businesses from the Industrial Revolution. Both parties catered to their populations. Democrats gradually advocated for the working man and Republicans answered the call to do the bidding of big business. The change was gradual over a span of 80 years. So black loyalty to the Democratic Party is historically valid. Republicans actively fought against all of the Civil Rights issues of the 1960s.
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Watch Thomas Sowell and Forgotten History videos as well. This guy was being pretty fair. The KKK was started by the Democrats mainly in the South. Martin Luther King was a Republican. Now the South is mainly Republican and the North is mainly Democrat.
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What they didnt teach me in school about slavery. Its not a long video. It might have some things you didnt know.
Following your journey.
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No. Sowell is a sellout.
There are a lot of generalizations and misconceptions in your thumbnail.
@@judithmccrea2601 Who are you talking to? No one on this thread made this video and the person that did make it wouldn't know what you're talking about.
Reparations and aint nothing changed. Props and dap doing your thing
Technically... enslavement of prisoners is still legal here in the U.S. Prisoners can be forced to work for very little or no money and it is legal.
Harriet is another great movie which explains what was going on in the 19th century
I so appreciate your reaction from the point of view of your generation because I think that is more important globally to the whole discussion. Race is secondary to the bottom line of just being people. I know I'm stating the obvious, but it's generations that are taking away the power of outdated traditions and favoring what's actually right. Human is human...stop differentiating in a negative way.
Today.
Hoping to keep dissapating the old ways of thinking that linked people to value based upon how they looked. Very deep, more than most typical white people would like, but essential to any real progress forward. That race means nothing yet personality is allowed to thrive.
No one should feel limited in their own petsonal development by negative interaction with others over race.
I live in Louisiana and even in my lifetime I lived in the age where we couldn’t go in certain restaurants or we had to eat in the back. Also there were separate schools for blacks and whites. Just saying it hasn’t been that long ago.
There is a huge irony in the fact that the USA went to war to defeat nazism when there was such a massive, politically established racist system in place in the USA. Britain had its own issue because of the empire.
I’d argue that it was actually because of the war that America had to face the truth that nazism revealed, that racism is abhorrent and absolutely unjustifiable, and so is nationalism - despite the fact that Americans fought “for their country”.
For example, when are you “pure” enough to be allowed to vote, own property, etc. what if you’re HALF white and the other half is “WRONG” ie black, Jewish, Irish etc. Maybe a half human should not be allowed to vote. But if you’re 3/4 white? What if a 3/4 white has children with a 7/8 white? Maybe they get a half vote???
It’s all so clearly absurd and just politicians making power from the worst side of human nature, and the end result is the Holocaust. American and British troops liberated death camps in 1945 and what they saw was fucking disgusting.
20 years after WW2 the men who fought it were becoming senior politicians, lawyers, business leaders. That’s why human rights became so prominent.
Yeah those progressive overpopulationists were so racist especially the Democrats.
The past is never dead. It's not even past
SOME BACKGROUND ON RACISM IN THE USA
During the colonial period, slavery was allowed in all of the colonies, however, it was found in large-scale mainly in the warmer Southern colonies with longer agricultural seasons. In the north, it was more associated with house servants. This system was established by the British to make money. Free labor produced raw goods that were shipped to Britain to be made into various things, or as food stuffs to feed the population. After independence, the wealthy slave owners had no desire to end the practice. The whole system of American government has all sorts of peculiarities that were initially enshrined to protect slavery. When the majority of Southern states decided to leave the union, it created civil war. The pro-slavery side lost and was put under Reconstruction [a process to rebuild and racially integrate the South]. The election of Rutherford Hayes [a Republican] was murky and the election decision was tossed to the Congress. An agreement was made that Hayes would serve only 1 term, and he would end Reconstruction. After that, segregation came to the South and black folks were marginalized and terrorized until 1964. Under the presidency of Franklin Roosevelt [Democrat], a group of progressives took the reigns of the party and began to move it away from its racist image. His VP turned President, Harry Truman, racially integrated the armed forces. Under President Lyndon Johnson [Democrat from Texas], segregation ended in the South and many white Southerners felt betrayed. Richard Nixon [Republican] began a plan known as the Southern Strategy that was meant to bring those disgruntled Southerners into the Republican Party. By 1980, that was accomplished and Ronald Reagan was elected as a member of the New Right wing of the party. This left the Democrats as a center-left party, no longer concerned with a far right Southern wing, and the Republican Party no longer an elitist party of the upper classes of the East Coast, but a party dominated by Southern Whites, Evangelical Christians and think tanks promoting Supply Side Economics and Strength thru Peace foreign policies. Under Newt Gingrich [Republican], a former Speaker of the House, the party pushed even farther right. Racism, which was usually disguised with code words and polite language came into the open. The Tea Party Movement went even more to the right, and conspiracy theories began to be accepted within the ranks of the Republican Party. Under Trump, the party has moved away from its internationalist-interventionist policies to protect American business interests and towards a nationalist-isolationist stance with authoritarian aspects. What the future may hold is anyone's guess. If Trump wins, I would expect a very dark future. If he does not win, the party might continue along similar lines, or it might revert back to its former self as under Reagan, but probably not back to its more moderate 1950s style.
To understand what led up to Jim Crow and beyond, you need to go further back in history when the colonies were established. There were European and African, as well as Native servants in the beginning. The power struggle was originally between the wealthy gentry and the working class, master and servant, not "race", a concept that was invented to sustain slavery and the profits of that labor.
He keeps saying "The Southern hemisphere of the United States!" There's no such thing as the Southern hemisphere begins at the equator! Of course he means the Southern part of the United States.
#flexer
You had me until you said "victim mentality". That's a dogwhistle code that the ones 'not like us' usually use and a lot of folks not from the US believe. But if stuff is still being done to us, then it's not victim mentality to be as vocal as we want in calling it out. Look more into redlining, food deserts, Black farmers vs the us govt, etc.
But if it's _not_ still being done to you...and most of what was being done to us in the 1950s is _not_ being done today...and you still have the mindset that that its all being done to you today, then you _do_ have a victim mindset.
@kirkdarling4120 It depends on where you live. The Jim Crow systems and laws that were put in place can still be felt in some areas although not overtly, especially in the South. Unfortunately, there is still work to do. Invalidating the experiences of others because they don't personally affect you is not the way to get justice for EVERYONE even though things have improved. Also, fighting for what's right is not being a victim.
@@kirkdarling4120 this is probably one of the dumbest and most clueless comments I've read. Being aware and intolerant to discrimination is far from playing a victim. If you think just because the blatant segregation era tactics aren't happening every day, then you're also a fool. You can continue to be a doormat if you want but this so called victim mentality that you think people have won't tolerate it. It takes more than 50 years to make 400 years of oppression just disappear
People think of history as boring. But when you actually start to learn from it is amazing how interesting it is. And learning about it, and from it, is the only way to make sure that we don't repeat it. There are a lot of great ideas that sound amazing when you talk about them. But when you look at instances where those ideas were actually put into practice, you realize how detrimental to society they could be.
And we are currently looking at a society that is trying to go back to these times. Only they're flipping the script. Trying to say that the black only graduation ceremonies are to empower the blacks, where in reality it's just another form of segregation packaged in a more brightly colored box 🤷♀️.
They phrase it now as if racism is okay, as long as it's against white people... Because of how "in control they've always been". But at the end of the day it's just another way to keep us divided and hating each other. At the end of the day if we are fighting amongst ourselves, we aren't paying as much attention to what "they" (the ones in charge - regardless of color) are doing
All I read was we can do it to y'all but we will throw a hissy fit if y'all do it to us. Lol. and smh. And racism is still a today thing so don't try to flip the script. And why can't we have something just for us for once? Whats so wrong with that? It doesn't mean we are racist bc we want to enjoy things with just us. Yall did it for years and year and years
@@KbHarlem-t3s then you obviously misinterpreted what I was saying. I tried to make it very clear that it is not right in any way shape or form.
Put the idea of "we want to enjoy it without you all" just keeps the separation going. I don't think it is right for any side to separate against the other. Flipping the script because "it's our turn now"just keeps the segregation going. It does not fix the issue in any way. The only way to fix it, is to move past it and stop it on both sides
@@reneeg9406 no stop it on your side then maybe we can get somewhere. Are you telling your people to stop it?
He is wrong about the name Jim Crow it was not a derogatory name at first. Jim, where did the name Jim come from, Well black Africans had African names so many of them were named JIM. Crow, were did Crow come from, it was a common name for any field worker of any skin tone, it came from the scarecrow i.e. a man standing in a field. So once blacks were working the field the name Jim Crow was used to say (field worker) it was not until after the Jim Crow laws were put into effect that the name Jim Crow became a derogatory name. For that it was not, they would even use the term Crow for white field workers. That is how Jim Crow got its name. So Jim meant black man or slave, Crow meant field worker Jim Crow, a white field worker was just called a Crow.
As far taking this with a pinch of salt. Slavery wasn’t well documented and facts on it were heavily skewed depending on who’s recounting what happened. The truth of it is somewhere in the middle. Not all whites were horrible. Few blacks got lucky here and there and didn’t have it as hard and majority. Truth is somewhere in the middle.
Jim Crow however is a heavily documented time period in American history where most of what’s told of the unfairness happened.
Slavery is extremely well documented. There are contemporarily written treatises on slavery by both northerners and southerners of the day. There are newspaper articles, court trial records, scholarly university documentation, photography, and political statements galore on slavery, from the 1600s through the Civil War. There in no dearth of documentation of slavery. It's just that some people don't want to acknowledge the documentation.
@@kirkdarling4120 So you telling me at a time where being black was openly seen as subhuman, I am to wholeheartedly trust the written documents of that time frame like no facts were omitted? Naw.. I’m good. Atrocities happened beyond imagining and everything is NOT documented. Discernment of fact and fabrication is needed. I’m not saying I don’t believe anything that was documented, I’m also not saying I would believe everything that is documented either. Documentation post slavery is more accurate(not completely accurate) We skew information fabricate narrative and more NOW but there’s a better sense of sifting through what happened and what didn’t in more recent times than back then. There are those who see slavery as only it’s amalgamation of all its atrocities and then there are those who see slavery and try to deconstruct the atrocities to make it fit a narrative that ALL WHITE people weren’t bad. My argument to that statement is “no shxt ALL whites people weren’t that bad but trying to use that to make light of what DID happen to ease your guilt for what your ancestors did is stupid. It goes as far as some thinking blacks as a whole loved being enslaved. Brainwashing and Stockholm syndrome don’t count. Forced to learn a new language. A couple generations and a majority speak broken English now. People were born and die knowing nothing but enslavement. Even if they said they like it. Is they saying it because it’s all they know?, because they fear what master might do if they said they didn’t like it?
You get the point. My point is, it’s real fuzzy sorting through the facts of slavery at times.
Jay, you seem quite surprised to find out how much race hatred there is in the USA.
Yeah those Democrat slavers were and are evil.
They don’t teach American history outside of America that’s why. Or so I’ve been told. It’s the reason everyone think we over exaggerate our experiences.
Your fascination seems to be with the history of the United States and black music. The Civil War was fought to end slavery.
No it was not. It was fought to preserve the Union. Slavery was mostly used to keep European powers from supporting the Confederacy.
This was real actual racism. This is not what people try to call racism today. Now if you even accidentally looked at a different ethnicity cross eyed they start screaming racism. We have come worlds away from actual racism. If you want a factual unbiased view of history I would check out Thomas Sowell and Prager U videos. Thomas Sowell is one of the world's foremost economists. He's well into his 80s now and still working. He's black and actually grew up under Jim Crow
It's awfully white and ignorant for you to use your pathetic idea of what real racism is. It's obvious that you've never had to deal with it before and it's so insulting for white people to try to downplay the actual racism that still exists in this country. I'm sure it must make you feel real good about yourself. I guarantee you wouldn't trade places with a black man for a day. Racism is racism, don't try to give your watered down views. It's clear when you recommend Sowell and say that his views are unbiased when he is clearly a conservative with biased views. Some of you must forget that there are still a lot of black people who are still alive with real stories of truth and facts, we don't need to hear about your rosy ideas about the lives that we've lived every day.
Jay, stay away from Sowell. Prager U is not a university. It's a right-wing, propaganda think tank. Google it.
My daughter and I had traveled to Alabama to live for awhile, and when we were in Georgia we saw the large crowd gathered when Rosa Parks had died. I suppose it was the funeral procession