It's really cool to see all the old heads comments on these documentaries. I like their descriptions of how they view today's society. As compared to " back in their day ".
It's cool to hear some Neal stories from a direct source. The great thing about art is that people still live within that world, Kerouac's descriptions especially make Neal very much alive today.
PS: As on old dope fiend and methadonian myself, I remember when you could buy cough syrup with codeine and hydrocodone over the counter! Paradise, sheer paradise....
That cough syrup was called Cheracol. We were disappointed when they stopped making it. It worked great, tasted good and made you forget you were sick!
Yep, you could buy it w/o a script from the pharmacist every 30 days. By my time it was getting tough to find pharmacies that were still into it. Just had to fill out some info in a book. I'd always read down the page at the names I knew that had been scoring. Good times.
Cheracol was well offline by my heroin daze..1991-2001, been on Methadone(Dophine🤣) ever since. 46 and want off the shit, just to fucking busy raising kids to kick...
@@BushyHairedStranger likewise sir. I met Ginsberg in Swansea 1995. He propositioned my mate in the bogs. He was really pissed off when my pal said no!
Neal was a decent mechanic and had an intuitive grasp of the slap-bang-wallop of the railroad. It was an extension of the days when he would be the fastest car parker on the lot. He also had a whole upstanding Christian side, especially when he settled down with Carolyn.
I came to age in this time, lived and love it compared to OUR present nightmare :a corporate controlled narrow channeled capitalist horror show.PS meaningless as well!
Perfect, description of the current situation. I can't believe the kids today are swallowing this whole economic/continuous war situation! And they thought we were stoners! We need a new generation of " hippies" to rise up and end this madness.
+Roger Douglas Man there is a wonderfully displaced generation rising out of the ashes of the beat generation. You just wait for our literary movement to topple the instant gratification comfort that were stuck in now. It'll happen man. Lots of creative cats here in Denver, and this is just where I go to school. Go back home to New York and see my friends at NYU and they're on a similar page. There'll be something here soon, a liberal wave. A socialist wave. A creative and restless generation that hasnt quite started yet. David Foster Wallace already wrote Infinite Jest to at least define the coming age, but were here to make a movement out of it. Shit works in cycles and we're rounding the corporate curve, but itll end soon, and music has already entered that stage (Dont bring up any top 40, that shit is directed towards middle school girls)
+Jack Jordan I agree, it is happening now. We are about to repeat the cycle of the '60s which was undermined by various forces. For example the positive reaction to Bernie Sanders who is an admitted socialist. Let's hope it is allowed to run to completion this time.
Neal also never drank a lot because he grew with a alcoholic father whom he lost contact since he was 17 or something which was tough on him and he lost his mother very young too which toughened him up big time.If your a big fan of him you probably know this.Neal just did a lot of speed and LSD.Like a lot of meth probably and a lot of pot and also a lot of opioids probably like pills.
S.A. Griffin is warm human being and an intensely intimate poet and talented performer...Anita a pleasure to know him. He is one of the Karma Bums, a spoken word and performance art troop who traveled across America in the 1990's sharing their rare post-Beat era expressive form of word art. S.A. also had a huge part in forming the American Bible of Outlaw Poetry.
I believe Cassidy was just Cassidy you either dig him or you don’t I’m a crazy rebel myself who can maneuver different landscapes I’m all over the place myself so I relate
mmmm... re-reading On The Road as a 68 year old, really not impressed with Dean/Neal. Amoral is an understatement. Thieving tanks of gas and cartons of cigarettes simply is not a 'good' thing.
This was a time period where being hip really had nothing to do with acting like you were.Just real nonconformists. Today's so called hip generation has lost this natural spontaneous freedom. The new left posters and posses. There's a fear a guarded disposition.The new left takes themselves so seriously. A judgemental attitude as if I've seen the light and can bestow any uptight opinion I choose.The men in the new left talk as if there male vocal chords have been removed.A super feminist fem voice is in order.My point is being liberal today is far different far more uptight pretentious and fake than it was during the real people phase. I call it modern Liberal conformity... Sheep.
Wait a minute: "Today's so called hip generation"?? Did I miss something? I haven't heard about a "hip generation" in about fifty years! As for the "new left" - I thought its adherents were all dead and gone, or at least just lingering on in old folks' homes ... ?
A fascinating, brilliant, creative sociopath. Gotta love Dean Moriarty! Branaman is wonderful to hear reminiscing too. That obsequious interviewer and his phony laugh almost ruined it for me though. Almost....
Great clip. But the anti semitism towards Ginsberg was thick, especially from Keourac. Ginsberg did … inveigle his way into lots of circles, and seemingly use people for self promotion. Add Dylan to that list. To laugh at that remark is a reminder of why that person is the interviewer, not the storyteller. Oh well. The Beats were an interesting crowd- seemingly always at the edge of sociopathy. Acolytes , less so imo. .
@@bmoderate9035 agree. And can understand their resentment to - him. Not the antisemitism. But am not surprised. People often conflate ones artistry with their character.
@@golds04 I would assume that the anti-semitism was just something available for jealous people to use against the object of their jealousy. You know how people are .....
This is great and appreciate that someone took the opportunity to preserve this for the future.
A hero of mine when I was young. A sad, sad man now!
It's really cool to see all the old heads comments on these documentaries. I like their descriptions of how they view today's society. As compared to " back in their day ".
Then too the curious expressions they use, like “balling” some guy’s “old lady” (?).
I love this. This is a lost art in America, the ability to talk and tell a story. We are dying in this current era of social isolationism. Duck.
Yes.
Ha he said this BEFORE Covid… god help us
Read Carolyn Cassady's book Off The Road, that's Neal Cassady.
It's cool to hear some Neal stories from a direct source. The great thing about art is that people still live within that world, Kerouac's descriptions especially make Neal very much alive today.
PS: As on old dope fiend and methadonian myself, I remember when you could buy cough syrup with codeine and hydrocodone over the counter! Paradise, sheer paradise....
LOL
Thanks for a great post
S. A. is a man of easy warmth & relaxed charm.
Great stuff!!
I love this. Really well done, really smart. Thanks. Do more...!!!
That cough syrup was called Cheracol. We were disappointed when they stopped making it. It worked great, tasted good and made you forget you were sick!
Yep, you could buy it w/o a script from the pharmacist every 30 days. By my time it was getting tough to find pharmacies that were still into it. Just had to fill out some info in a book. I'd always read down the page at the names I knew that had been scoring. Good times.
Cheracol was well offline by my heroin daze..1991-2001, been on Methadone(Dophine🤣) ever since. 46 and want off the shit, just to fucking busy raising kids to kick...
In the U.K. it was called jeyes linctus
@@BushyHairedStranger likewise sir. I met Ginsberg in Swansea 1995. He propositioned my mate in the bogs. He was really pissed off when my pal said no!
@@BushyHairedStranger lucky kids. They're so blessed. 😔
Thank you my Era dig it
Great interview.
Tremendous.
One thing I wasn’t aware of about Neal was he worked 10 years as a Conductor for the Railroad. I can’t even imagine him conducting a train. 😂
Neal was a decent mechanic and had an intuitive grasp of the slap-bang-wallop of the railroad. It was an extension of the days when he would be the fastest car parker on the lot. He also had a whole upstanding Christian side, especially when he settled down with Carolyn.
@@bmoderate9035 Are you quoting from Kerouac?
Fabulous!
Neal Cassady was an interesting fella!
I wrote a poem while watching the film.
That's precious!
Share it.
I wrote a film while watching a poem.
I came to age in this time, lived and love it compared to OUR present nightmare :a corporate controlled narrow channeled capitalist horror show.PS meaningless as well!
Perfect, description of the current situation. I can't believe the kids today are swallowing this whole economic/continuous war situation! And they thought we were stoners! We need a new generation of " hippies" to rise up and end this madness.
+Roger Douglas Man there is a wonderfully displaced generation rising out of the ashes of the beat generation. You just wait for our literary movement to topple the instant gratification comfort that were stuck in now. It'll happen man. Lots of creative cats here in Denver, and this is just where I go to school. Go back home to New York and see my friends at NYU and they're on a similar page. There'll be something here soon, a liberal wave. A socialist wave. A creative and restless generation that hasnt quite started yet. David Foster Wallace already wrote Infinite Jest to at least define the coming age, but were here to make a movement out of it. Shit works in cycles and we're rounding the corporate curve, but itll end soon, and music has already entered that stage (Dont bring up any top 40, that shit is directed towards middle school girls)
+Jack Jordan I agree, it is happening now. We are about to repeat the cycle of the '60s which was undermined by various forces. For example the positive reaction to Bernie Sanders who is an admitted socialist. Let's hope it is allowed to run to completion this time.
@@highwatercircutrider Yes
CHooooooice!!!
Neal also never drank a lot because he grew with a alcoholic father whom he lost contact since he was 17 or something which was tough on him and he lost his mother very young too which toughened him up big time.If your a big fan of him you probably know this.Neal just did a lot of speed and LSD.Like a lot of meth probably and a lot of pot and also a lot of opioids probably like pills.
S.A. Griffin is warm human being and an intensely intimate poet and talented performer...Anita a pleasure to know him.
He is one of the Karma Bums, a spoken word and performance art troop who traveled across America in the 1990's sharing their rare post-Beat era expressive form of word art.
S.A. also had a huge part in forming the American Bible of Outlaw Poetry.
You mean Dharma Bums?
What's the movie called with Garrett Hulland as Neal Cassady?
The last time I committed suicide Netflix
What movie
Well ha lived on the edge and for a moment had some decent visitors...
Whos SA that hes talking about at the end
I believe Cassidy was just Cassidy you either dig him or you don’t I’m a crazy rebel myself who can maneuver different landscapes I’m all over the place myself so I relate
Mid west is coooool.
We are. ....we've always been more evolved than both Coasts
What a guy
Jesus loves you so much
Dudes got some eyebrows.
Jesus loves you so much.
I wonder how he'd like San Francisco now, in 2024?
Marlboro cigarettes have been sold since the 1920's, guy is confused.
mmmm... re-reading On The Road as a 68 year old, really not impressed with Dean/Neal. Amoral is an understatement. Thieving tanks of gas and cartons of cigarettes simply is not a 'good' thing.
Working guys smoked Lucky's.
This was a time period where being hip really had nothing to do with acting like you were.Just real nonconformists.
Today's so called hip generation has lost this natural spontaneous freedom.
The new left posters and posses.
There's a fear a guarded disposition.The new left takes themselves so seriously.
A judgemental attitude as if I've seen the light and can bestow any uptight opinion I choose.The men in the new left talk as if there male vocal chords have been removed.A super feminist fem voice is in order.My point is being liberal today is far different far more uptight pretentious and fake than it was during the real people phase.
I call it modern Liberal conformity...
Sheep.
You missed one thing Bryan...
They werent so Brown rice facisist back than.
Wait a minute: "Today's so called hip generation"?? Did I miss something? I haven't heard about a "hip generation" in about fifty years! As for the "new left" - I thought its adherents were all dead and gone, or at least just lingering on in old folks' homes ... ?
Whos'iss fella?
Dolophine is methadone
A healthy culture would never promote that persona.
Correct. This is the time period when western civilization began to unravel.
I was trapped in the inner circle of thought. Now I am back thanks to the teachings of Justin Bieber and Brittany Spears.
Haha! So true.
A fascinating, brilliant, creative sociopath. Gotta love Dean Moriarty! Branaman is wonderful to hear reminiscing too. That obsequious interviewer and his phony laugh almost ruined it for me though. Almost....
Great clip. But the anti semitism towards Ginsberg was thick, especially from Keourac. Ginsberg did … inveigle his way into lots of circles, and seemingly use people for self promotion. Add Dylan to that list. To laugh at that remark is a reminder of why that person is the interviewer, not the storyteller. Oh well. The Beats were an interesting crowd- seemingly always at the edge of sociopathy. Acolytes , less so imo. .
A lot of poets harboured jealousy towards Alan because he was a very successful self-promoter and probably the most renowned poet of his sphere.
@@bmoderate9035 agree. And can understand their resentment to - him. Not the antisemitism. But am not surprised. People often conflate ones artistry with their character.
@@golds04 I would assume that the anti-semitism was just something available for jealous people to use against the object of their jealousy. You know how people are .....
Yawn