Great video Robin, have you ever used or seen these new galvernised steel frame dormer conversion kits made by ecoT.R.U.S/eco Lofts. The frame is made up of triangles and apparently you don't need RSJs because the frame supports the load. What do you think about them?
We got steel beams put in our house conversion too. Good video! I have a video myself on my channel of a loft conversion from beginning to end - Mind the mad presenter though :P
Thanks for this video. Can you please tell me whether it is advisable to place an RSJ on an existing piece of wood that surrounds the top of the inner wall of a loft conversion. At the moment there are 2 huge RSJ's connected to the wall at one side however on the other side it lays on that existing wood piece. The structural engineer signed this off, but I am a bit dubious about it as we know that wood could rot in time and the whole loft extension could collapse. I know it's pretty rare, but you never know. I just wanted to know whether this is regulation or not. In my eyes I assume that RSJ's should be laid on top of the inner wall structure with bricks to lift it up. Your comments are much appreciated.
Tony Antoniou I had a similar doubt in mind about whether the steel breams should either be on the bricks of the wall with the new joist in between at the dame height as the previous beams or should it actually be laid on top of the wooden joists and why. Because I would have thought you would loose ceiling height placing steel on top of the wooden joists. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this
Jin Van Palta + The surveyor allowed the builders to place the RSL's on the old existing wooden frame. To be honest, it's laziness and I would say in about 30-50 years, it could cause a problem, i.e. damp (if there is a leak), dry rot, wood lice, etc. Yes, you're right you would lose ceiling height. It's all done now and the loft extension finished months ago. Ceiling height was compromised, but it's ok.
I would not approve of placing structural steel beams onto the wall plate, irrespective of potential to rot, wood is compressible, and could therefore cause sinkage and collapse ! Drop this guy and use a different structural engineer !
Hi, have you seen the simpson strong tie joists, reason i ask is i dont want to use steel, for monetry reasons, and in their ads they show no need for steels, I have a hip end structure and have a supporting wall running accross the middle of the house, do you think I can lay the stongtie joists from front to back so the front, middle and back walls will be taking the load thus not needing steel work?
A very good video but, I felt the music made the person speaking harder to hear and understand. I wanted to hear what was said not the background music which tat times took over. Excellent work but turn down the music to a whisper...for us old ones. The music is good but one one or the other. Thank-you
12 years ago!! What a great background of varied knowledge and experience!!
watching your old videos back from 10 years ago, quite relevant and useful, Thank you Robin
Glad you liked the video, thank you for your message
i wish i could afford you and rodger to come here and convert our attic ,,i enjoy the expertise,,
Lovely, a step back in time.
@Robert Clevett.
Making awesome content since donkeys ago. Keep it up. Much appreciated!
Thanks, yours is nice too, quite entertaining, keep up the good work
these guys are pro's ...no dout, great job guys!
how much does something like this steel + joists cost in 2020?
Great video Robin, have you ever used or seen these new galvernised steel frame dormer conversion kits made by ecoT.R.U.S/eco Lofts. The frame is made up of triangles and apparently you don't need RSJs because the frame supports the load. What do you think about them?
Cheap and eventually dangerous shit designed on a computer by people who go by numbers, not reality.
We got steel beams put in our house conversion too. Good video!
I have a video myself on my channel of a loft conversion from beginning to end - Mind the mad presenter though :P
Thanks for this video. Can you please tell me whether it is advisable to place an RSJ on an existing piece of wood that surrounds the top of the inner wall of a loft conversion. At the moment there are 2 huge RSJ's connected to the wall at one side however on the other side it lays on that existing wood piece. The structural engineer signed this off, but I am a bit dubious about it as we know that wood could rot in time and the whole loft extension could collapse. I know it's pretty rare, but you never know. I just wanted to know whether this is regulation or not. In my eyes I assume that RSJ's should be laid on top of the inner wall structure with bricks to lift it up. Your comments are much appreciated.
Tony Antoniou I had a similar doubt in mind about whether the steel breams should either be on the bricks of the wall with the new joist in between at the dame height as the previous beams or should it actually be laid on top of the wooden joists and why.
Because I would have thought you would loose ceiling height placing steel on top of the wooden joists.
Hopefully someone can shed some light on this
Jin Van Palta + The surveyor allowed the builders to place the RSL's on the old existing wooden frame. To be honest, it's laziness and I would say in about 30-50 years, it could cause a problem, i.e. damp (if there is a leak), dry rot, wood lice, etc. Yes, you're right you would lose ceiling height. It's all done now and the loft extension finished months ago. Ceiling height was compromised, but it's ok.
I would not approve of placing structural steel beams onto the wall plate, irrespective of potential to rot, wood is compressible, and could therefore cause sinkage and collapse ! Drop this guy and use a different structural engineer !
@@jinvanpalta6263 - Use a qualified structural engineer; he or she should be able to explain why this is done.
This was 5 years ago did your extention collapse?
Hi, have you seen the simpson strong tie joists, reason i ask is i dont want to use steel, for monetry reasons, and in their ads they show no need for steels, I have a hip end structure and have a supporting wall running accross the middle of the house, do you think I can lay the stongtie joists from front to back so the front, middle and back walls will be taking the load thus not needing steel work?
This is the sort of question you need to ask of your structural engineer, surely?
A very good video but, I felt the music made the person speaking harder to hear and understand. I wanted to hear what was said not the background music which tat times took over.
Excellent work but turn down the music to a whisper...for us old ones. The music is good but one one or the other.
Thank-you