And this is why people LS swap everything! Those bearings looked great for something put through that much torture and a bent rod! Keep pushing man, that 1000RWHP is calling your name!
No, b/c they're dirt cheap. If you wanted a real V8, you'd get a VH45DE, but since they're rare, everything would have to be custom. They're being ran at 9000 rpms for racing and don't blow up. Also, they handle 1k hp just fine.
@@TheGuruStud why even mention it then? Oh and the LS is a real V8 ya dipshit. They are also dirt cheap and very plentiful for parts and handle boost like an addict with some good drugs handed to them. But nerds like you want to say...but, but this other motor is blah, blah, blah. Sure bubby.....any motor can be built if you have the $$. This is sloppy mechanics......maybe you should take your arse to some prissy video's with rich jokers doing build the majority of us regular guys could never afford. Buh Bye buttercup.
Great video and outcome. You also deserve credit for hearing the problem right away and resisting the urge to drive it home. It's great to find someone who's smart and doesn't just blindly throw money at everything. And yeah. It IS a beast!
awesome, that motor has been through hell before you got it, you revived it and end up getting it to produce 1000HP and just bends a rod. that engine is a tank, its telling you it wants to live.
OMG if you were really a sloppy mechanic you would have done a pull in reverse to stretch the rod back out I WOULD NEVER waste my time tearing a motor apart when you could just do that. WOW Unsubbed. lmao
In the monte I use to put it in reverse at 55 mph it would do an axle wrap burn out I could not pull the car out of park one day checked transmission dipstick And it was completely dry. Refilled And trans was fine 4le60 would have shit the bed
the 4.8L is under less stress due to the smaller stroke and bore; so it could potentially hold more boost without going boom. i would like to see the 4.8 personally.
The Insane Biker They can make more with enough fuel, hot rod magazine pushed a nearly stock 5.3l LS (had a boost cam, valve springs and larger ring gap I believe, very basic stuff to make the engine boost ready) to make 1300hp before it bent a valve. forged rods and pistons and titanian valves and these engines can take a insane amount of power. I'm not really sure how he has blew 2 6.0's definitely isn't running big enough fuel rails.
2j are way more reliable then the chevy dude.I know guys making 700 on stock blocks that have unknown miles that are revving 7k for minutes at a time. A ls will never do that ever. And thats coming from a ls guy I test them for work and have a ls swapped car. and all these idiots thinking ls motors are making 1k whp stock are idiots. every motor can make 1000 whp stock it depends how long it will do that for. ls motors are usable to about 800whp with the gen 4 rods and pistons but after that Most guys have issues unless its dyno queen
@HFX Turbo dude there are 2.0l hondas that make 700whp on a stock block and ever japanese motor comes with a forgee crank from the factory. Noone even thinks about swapping cranks And I never said they won't make 1000hp. It's how long will they make that. A drag car can make runs over an over again because they dont use the power for more than 25 seconds. Drag racing shows nothing a out reliability. That's why toy see how many of those drag cars break down on the street
@@v8consumption Check out Richard Holdener. He has made well over 1500 on a stock short block gen 4 6.0. he killed a gen3 at about 14xx hp because he had over 1300 ftlbs of torque.
You got that right at least the sloppy mechanic! The block needs new bore on that cylinder head a bent rod just doesn't just happen! The rings could be warped and the crank is probably unbalanced! Good luck because you will be making another video on getting a new motor!!! 💯
thanks for commenting! working on it, seems the regular sloppy viewers really like the longer show format, instead of just short clips, never would i have though people would like the longer more ramble filled versions but i can understand how people really learn more
Exactly. You watch other RUclips'rs build cars and they're like here's my removed engine, poof we've found our bent rod, it's now replaced, *burnout montage*. So you learn nothing beyond stuff which most enthusiasts already understand. Watching you do little things like tightening the rod nuts 3 different ways in your next video was extremely memorable. I'll never forget 50-55 pounds (15 lbs + 45 degrees) etc etc. I've seen your channel before but only got to watching these videos once I saw this previous video. I'm working backwards now.
Watching all your old videos has changed my whole perspective on what's required to go fast. I'm a sceptic myself, & hate the spread of misinformation on the forums. Like, definitely replace those head bolts with studs if you don't wanna blow your new head gasket. 24psi and a year later, all is well. It's hogwash.
12:20 To reduce coolant mess, take the rear block heater plug out. About 8 inches above the oil filter and about 5 inches behind the motor mount is the internal hex plug which covers the block heater hole. There's also another plug on the passenger side (right in front of the crank sensor) that threads vertically up into the water jacket. Take those 2 out before you pull the heads = no more mess!
first! you lucked out hardcore man. throw in another rodn push it to the limit! So much good info and really world results from you. I really appreciate it
Blasphemy in the house of Sloppy! Slam err back together with the rattle gun and let err eat! For all others including my own engine, I'd probably just get the rest of the rods measured by a shop while it was out and apart. Peace of mind since I don't like yanking engines and definitely don't work as fast as Matt.
The miracle is this truck took 992 horsepower and didn't fold in on its self like a star collapsing into a black hole. Was that oil pan modified, or massaged to have the dent in it?
Goes to show how tight the tolerances are in an engine. That wasn't that much of a bend in the rod, but yet the bottom of the piston skirt was hitting the crank. Glad there wasn't any major damage, and you won't have a lot of work to get her back on the road. I have torn down some N/A engines with a lot fewer miles that looked like total crap on the inside.
same problem with a flood vehicle. i worked for a guy who just bought flooded new cars and trucks and it was always a bent rod in one and sometimes 2 cylinders. we replaced the piston as well. as the skirts would hit counter weights.
I know this is over 3 years ago. But just changing a new piston into a block from another block isn’t a good idea. It might work, but it’s only a matter of time until it tears your motor apart. Pistons and drive train are balanced and distributed evenly across the block to keep rotating balance and not have it shake it self to death. So if you ever do a piston swap always make sure it’s weighed with the rest of the pistons and it doesn’t have all of the heaviest pistons on one side of the block or all on the same firing order.
So who else was watching the video going "I hope his shit is grenaded so he has to put the 4.8 in," and then really disappointed when his shit fucking worked?
Were you able to see anything on data, like misfire for example? Just curious if there was any other indicators of which cylinder was the offender. BTW, I'm pretty sure that's #3 rod, not 4. Not that it matters. Simply amazing what a stock bottom end held up to. Do you think it was the AFR/fuel problem that caused this, or just finding the parts limit?
Hadn't seen a rod bent like that before. It would not help with this particular issue, but if you run a filtermag on the oil filter, it will hold any ferrous stuff in the filter instead of letting it recirculate.
man just watching this one video I sub!!! always curious about these engines and how durable they are definitely feel the confidence on doing own engine build and motor swap on my Nissan S14 kouki. keep it coming man grass roots for life! keep it real and sloppy!😎
So Matt, what would it cost to upgrade the fuel system to 1/2", $200? Wouldn't "correct" AFR's reduce the stress of the motor and extend the life of the rods? I'm asking, not making a statement or being snarky.
glad to see its only a rod bent. wasn't the s480 clone a 96mm one? i heard you say some abouth the turbine being a 88mm. any info on the s488mm 96mm you said??
I had the opposite happen . I think the rods were stretching do to over revving with heavy pistons in a BBC. 7500 rpm pistons hitting the heads a second time. It took months both times before I could hear a knock The fist time I never made sure I had the clearance so didn't change anything other than making sure the piston had .050 to .100 clearance to the head and grinding on the chamber. Same noise the second time I assumed the piston was hitting the head again, which could only be explained by the rods stretching even more with out snaping
If you grab the glove by the wrist part, open it up and blow into is as you put your hand into it, makes it much easier and quicker to put the glove on. especially useful if you replace nylon gloves 10 times an hour
Love your channel. Im in the process of building my 5.3 that ill be turbo charging and its going into my e36. Fully gutted and caged already.. Cant fucking wait!
greg wynne check out hot rod garage's two turbo builds with the 4.8 and 5.3. They wanted to see how much hp on a stock motor and they bothe went over 1000hp before something gave. LS all the way!
What are you talking about living in the past? I know they can take alot of power . I was surprised like i said thats all that happened. You act like i said o well back in my day ... and no need for the ALL CAPS
How many times have you re used those head gaskets. Lol I have a set of ls9 headgaskets that I threw on my 5.3 that has maybe 5 min of run time on the with them on the motor. I took the heads off to get Port-polish. Could I just slap them back on and roll out.
I've always had air ratchets, but never tried a battery ratchet. Do the battery ratchets mash your fingers against the nearest piece of steel like the air ratchets do?
Longer vids with this content more than welcome.
thats what i keep hearing! thanks for letting me know
was just about to rub one out... guess I'll watch this first
Matt Huffman right??
Matt Huffman just as good if not better material
You were going to rub one out to Denmah?
Matt Huffman 😂😂😂
Matt Huffman this is the funniest thing I ever read lol
And this is why people LS swap everything! Those bearings looked great for something put through that much torture and a bent rod! Keep pushing man, that 1000RWHP is calling your name!
4sf3d4g63 Especially on a 260k mile motor. Gotta love LS!
No, b/c they're dirt cheap. If you wanted a real V8, you'd get a VH45DE, but since they're rare, everything would have to be custom. They're being ran at 9000 rpms for racing and don't blow up. Also, they handle 1k hp just fine.
@@TheGuruStud why even mention it then?
Oh and the LS is a real V8 ya dipshit. They are also dirt cheap and very plentiful for parts and handle boost
like an addict with some good drugs handed to them. But nerds like you want to say...but, but this other motor is blah, blah, blah. Sure bubby.....any motor can be built if you have the $$. This is sloppy mechanics......maybe you should take your arse to some prissy video's with rich jokers doing build the majority of us regular guys could never afford.
Buh Bye buttercup.
I have 210.000 miles and my 2000 chevy Tahoe 5.3 LS....and it still pulls hard with no signs of wearing down.....these motor's are beastly!...love it!
Great video and outcome. You also deserve credit for hearing the problem right away and resisting the urge to drive it home. It's great to find someone who's smart and doesn't just blindly throw money at everything. And yeah. It IS a beast!
don't give me too much credit.
I would totally watch a non-time lapse video with all of your commentary. The nuggets of wisdom are speeding by me!
Bent rod.
Me: “Aaaarrrgggghhhhh!!”
Sloppy Mechanics: “Best effin’ day Ever!!”
awesome, that motor has been through hell before you got it, you revived it and end up getting it to produce 1000HP and just bends a rod.
that engine is a tank, its telling you it wants to live.
who says we don't want to watch a 20min video?! we want 30min for the next one. glad it wasn't more serious. slap another rod in there and let'er eat!
SouthernSpeedVideos same thing I said don't mind more videos like this give me more confidence on my Nissan LS project
***** 6
OMG if you were really a sloppy mechanic you would have done a pull in reverse to stretch the rod back out I WOULD NEVER waste my time tearing a motor apart when you could just do that. WOW Unsubbed. lmao
*soundman nuclear explosion*
In the monte I use to put it in reverse at 55 mph it would do an axle wrap burn out
I could not pull the car out of park one day checked transmission dipstick
And it was completely dry.
Refilled
And trans was fine
4le60 would have shit the bed
I'm impressed you knew what was hitting what before you even took apart the engine.
This is some of the best content on RUclips I've seen in a long time if ever. You earned yourself a fan and subscriber.
thanks!
i second this opinion sir
I love how this vid/your channel is all business no bs. Don't cut these vids down if this was an hour i would still watch it. Subbed
How does sloppy not have more subs
This fellow deserves a production team. certainly has the content and character. Just needs someone to hold the camera and edit the video.
i like the way he left the camera where it was and didnt make me dizzy as hell walking around and trying to zoom in and out bravo sloppy
the 4.8L is under less stress due to the smaller stroke and bore; so it could potentially hold more boost without going boom.
i would like to see the 4.8 personally.
Not An Argument. same here! thats all i have
"that's the guy that was rubbing the crank"
1k hp with only a little bend in the rod? I guess ls's are the jz of chevy
The Insane Biker They can make more with enough fuel, hot rod magazine pushed a nearly stock 5.3l LS (had a boost cam, valve springs and larger ring gap I believe, very basic stuff to make the engine boost ready) to make 1300hp before it bent a valve. forged rods and pistons and titanian valves and these engines can take a insane amount of power. I'm not really sure how he has blew 2 6.0's definitely isn't running big enough fuel rails.
Except you don't have to spend 20k+ to make 1000 and still have the same reliability haha
2j are way more reliable then the chevy dude.I know guys making 700 on stock blocks that have unknown miles that are revving 7k for minutes at a time. A ls will never do that ever. And thats coming from a ls guy I test them for work and have a ls swapped car. and all these idiots thinking ls motors are making 1k whp stock are idiots. every motor can make 1000 whp stock it depends how long it will do that for. ls motors are usable to about 800whp with the gen 4 rods and pistons but after that Most guys have issues unless its dyno queen
@HFX Turbo dude there are 2.0l hondas that make 700whp on a stock block and ever japanese motor comes with a forgee crank from the factory. Noone even thinks about swapping cranks
And I never said they won't make 1000hp. It's how long will they make that. A drag car can make runs over an over again because they dont use the power for more than 25 seconds.
Drag racing shows nothing a out reliability. That's why toy see how many of those drag cars break down on the street
@@v8consumption Check out Richard Holdener. He has made well over 1500 on a stock short block gen 4 6.0. he killed a gen3 at about 14xx hp because he had over 1300 ftlbs of torque.
You got that right at least the sloppy mechanic! The block needs new bore on that cylinder head a bent rod just doesn't just happen! The rings could be warped and the crank is probably unbalanced! Good luck because you will be making another video on getting a new motor!!! 💯
The "throwup" portion of this video was the best! HAHA
You really should frame those head gaskets:)
im saving them for something else less pushy lol
I'm fine guys....
Hurlllll*
WOW, 1100+ HP at the crank SBE and it just bent a rod !!
some crazy shit!
rishi kataria actually about 1200
This is such a great channel. Thank you for sharing the entire process. I love learning about engines. Please keep them long and complete :)
thanks for commenting! working on it, seems the regular sloppy viewers really like the longer show format, instead of just short clips, never would i have though people would like the longer more ramble filled versions but i can understand how people really learn more
Exactly. You watch other RUclips'rs build cars and they're like here's my removed engine, poof we've found our bent rod, it's now replaced, *burnout montage*. So you learn nothing beyond stuff which most enthusiasts already understand.
Watching you do little things like tightening the rod nuts 3 different ways in your next video was extremely memorable. I'll never forget 50-55 pounds (15 lbs + 45 degrees) etc etc. I've seen your channel before but only got to watching these videos once I saw this previous video. I'm working backwards now.
Watching all your old videos has changed my whole perspective on what's required to go fast. I'm a sceptic myself, & hate the spread of misinformation on the forums. Like, definitely replace those head bolts with studs if you don't wanna blow your new head gasket. 24psi and a year later, all is well. It's hogwash.
12:20 To reduce coolant mess, take the rear block heater plug out. About 8 inches above the oil filter and about 5 inches behind the motor mount is the internal hex plug which covers the block heater hole. There's also another plug on the passenger side (right in front of the crank sensor) that threads vertically up into the water jacket. Take those 2 out before you pull the heads = no more mess!
first! you lucked out hardcore man. throw in another rodn push it to the limit! So much good info and really world results from you. I really appreciate it
Measure the piston heights on the rest of them, there maybe more bent just to a lesser amount.
Blasphemy in the house of Sloppy! Slam err back together with the rattle gun and let err eat! For all others including my own engine, I'd probably just get the rest of the rods measured by a shop while it was out and apart. Peace of mind since I don't like yanking engines and definitely don't work as fast as Matt.
Haha, I love the sloppy way. No need to go overboard, just measure them in the motor, takes ten minutes.
Im thinking bent crank
STOP thinking....it`s not working for you so quit while you`re ahead...
The miracle is this truck took 992 horsepower and didn't fold in on its self like a star collapsing into a black hole. Was that oil pan modified, or massaged to have the dent in it?
It sounds like we missed a lot of good Sloppy rambling. The people are demanding the Oliver Stone edit. 2 VHS tapes.
haha for sure, i wont shorten them anymore, ill just start uploading it all
Right on!
This is epic. No clue how you didn't blow this up. I'm glad it's an easy fix!
Goes to show how tight the tolerances are in an engine. That wasn't that much of a bend in the rod, but yet the bottom of the piston skirt was hitting the crank.
Glad there wasn't any major damage, and you won't have a lot of work to get her back on the road.
I have torn down some N/A engines with a lot fewer miles that looked like total crap on the inside.
awesome news!! I watch religiously, love every minute. thank you for the content, and sharing all your info and findings. kudos, keep hammering goals.
same problem with a flood vehicle. i worked for a guy who just bought flooded new cars and trucks and it was always a bent rod in one and sometimes 2 cylinders. we replaced the piston as well. as the skirts would hit counter weights.
8:25 so that's what a 1000 + hp long block looks like I've got one of those in my wife's 3500 express I need a turbo
You're not talking to yourself. We're all sitting out here going yeah, uh huh, yeah. Keep up the good work.
"that's the guy that was rubbing the crank". lol I lost it on that one. Nice video!
I like watching what you guys put together 992whp....wow
Damn, love how quick you make progress. It's insane! No idea how you do it so quickly!
I know this is over 3 years ago. But just changing a new piston into a block from another block isn’t a good idea. It might work, but it’s only a matter of time until it tears your motor apart.
Pistons and drive train are balanced and distributed evenly across the block to keep rotating balance and not have it shake it self to death. So if you ever do a piston swap always make sure it’s weighed with the rest of the pistons and it doesn’t have all of the heaviest pistons on one side of the block or all on the same firing order.
just wanted to know i love your format. new subscriber/LS builder here from san diego california!
chula vista here
LA represent
that's good but I did kinda want to see the 4.8 stocker in it
very VERY interesting. lot of ramifications conclude from this experiment. awesome work.
Roddy McRoderson. Shits stuck in my head now. Thanks Mr. Denmah
"Look how many times this gasket has been re-used. It looks like total shit. That's awesome hahahaha."
xD
Best channel ever.
loved the video! cant belive yougot away with just a bent rod! love the channel! looking forward to many more 20 min videos!
So who else was watching the video going "I hope his shit is grenaded so he has to put the 4.8 in," and then really disappointed when his shit fucking worked?
Were you able to see anything on data, like misfire for example? Just curious if there was any other indicators of which cylinder was the offender. BTW, I'm pretty sure that's #3 rod, not 4. Not that it matters. Simply amazing what a stock bottom end held up to. Do you think it was the AFR/fuel problem that caused this, or just finding the parts limit?
yes, the Milwaukee 12v ratchet is awesome. I like the waste gate right off the turbine housing. I'm going to try that on my next turbo project.
I was busting a gut at the fast motion coolant pan tip over at 15:03
With the fast forward disassembly I feel like I'm watching Santa's Elf's in the work shop
The fast foward parts was funny we could almost understand what you were saying. lol Good thing you use all new parts haha
Just grind the parts that touch and slap it back together ;)
Good job . Really inspiring !
"Look how many times I reused these head gaskets, they just look like shit" lmfao
Hadn't seen a rod bent like that before. It would not help with this particular issue, but if you run a filtermag on the oil filter, it will hold any ferrous stuff in the filter instead of letting it recirculate.
We absolutely need more time lapse WITH audio like this vid! I was laughing My ass off.
man you inspire me every time i watch your video's
Not into LS motors but I like the video. Encourages me for my projects. So right about acquiring those power tools. I should value my sanity more!
man just watching this one video I sub!!! always curious about these engines and how durable they are definitely feel the confidence on doing own engine build and motor swap on my Nissan S14 kouki. keep it coming man grass roots for life! keep it real and sloppy!😎
thanks!
Hey mate nice tear down. If you check deckheights of each piston it should help reveal if any others are bent
I love these videos ! I feel like I'm standing beside you with a beer in my hand . Thanks teacher
Yo from Australia, Mad stuff. LS1 Turbo here we go
I have a snap battery rachet almost identical to your milwakee. I hate my air rachet but the battery one is definitely one of my favorite tools.
So Matt, what would it cost to upgrade the fuel system to 1/2", $200? Wouldn't "correct" AFR's reduce the stress of the motor and extend the life of the rods? I'm asking, not making a statement or being snarky.
That "Struggle St" sign in the background is just too funny
great job Matt, 992 and only 1 bent rod Jesus!! Sent you a PM on LS1tech, hope I am still good....
That fast forward had me cracking up some reason LOL
I would like to see you make your own head studs out of some grade 8 threaded rod. I have always wondered if that would work.
18 mins = 20 mins worth of watching. Nice work
those humming bird arms on that timelapse. lol
You just earned a new subscriber I like your no bullshit way plus making 1k horsepower that’s insane!
Since the piston skirt was rubbing the crank counterbalance: are you concerned about metal dust floating around inside now?
So much Woooooo!!!! Up n running by the weekend . Words to live by .
Why do you not run say Denso Iridium plugs instead of old school ones?
And did The E85 clean them valves up like that?
You're livin the dream bro.
glad to see its only a rod bent. wasn't the s480 clone a 96mm one? i heard you say some abouth the turbine being a 88mm. any info on the s488mm 96mm you said??
I had the opposite happen . I think the rods were stretching do to over revving with heavy pistons in a BBC. 7500 rpm pistons hitting the heads a second time. It took months both times before I could hear a knock The fist time I never made sure I had the clearance so didn't change anything other than making sure the piston had .050 to .100 clearance to the head and grinding on the chamber. Same noise the second time I assumed the piston was hitting the head again, which could only be explained by the rods stretching even more with out snaping
that was awsome man good shit im glad it was just a rod.so are u planning on upgrading rods or just put a replacement for your final thoughts?
my ls9 head gaskets came from Autozone they were 41 bucks a piece they were victor reinz and had the GM part number on them
looks like the skirt has been touching the bore too. its highly polished
I have tried telling everyone about the electric ratchets but they just don't seem to get it. I subscribed when he said you need to fuckin buy one.
If you grab the glove by the wrist part, open it up and blow into is as you put your hand into it, makes it much easier and quicker to put the glove on. especially useful if you replace nylon gloves 10 times an hour
sometimes i do this, other times i like to struggle to feel alive lol
Love your channel. Im in the process of building my 5.3 that ill be turbo charging and its going into my e36. Fully gutted and caged already.. Cant fucking wait!
awesome
how many times did you re use those head gaskets?
so what do you think, Matt? bent rod due to leanness? or to much load/power? do you have any knock in the ECU logs for those runs?
crazy that's all that happened at 1000 hp
greg wynne check out hot rod garage's two turbo builds with the 4.8 and 5.3. They wanted to see how much hp on a stock motor and they bothe went over 1000hp before something gave. LS all the way!
STOP LIVING IN THE PAST It's really amazing since the stock LS internals are cast. They can take insane power on forged internals.
What are you talking about living in the past? I know they can take alot of power . I was surprised like i said thats all that happened. You act like i said o well back in my day ... and no need for the ALL CAPS
Thats the username to the guy I was replying to. Lol
"Beautiful shitters. Still good right?"
Ya matt just pre-stretched. Strain hardened for extra strength.
super curious !!! gen 3 or gen 4 rods ???
Hey man just found your channel, sick build! I have the LY6 6.0 block in my truck and I've always wanted to build it haha
dont build it just add a turbo
Sloppy Mechanics You don't think I should do a cam or injectors?
yeah, but dont "build" the motor
R u running the stock truck dwell times for those d585 coils? Or did u increase them at all? Seems like u run those in all ur builds.
What brand and weight of oil are you using in this stage of hp? Have you changed the brand or weight as hp went up? @sloppymechanic
oh so that motor DIDNT have headstuds, amazing shit Matt lol
What do you torque the mains too?
Love your vids keep up the work!
Matt said "rubbing the crank"
How many times have you re used those head gaskets. Lol
I have a set of ls9 headgaskets that I threw on my 5.3 that has maybe 5 min of run time on the with them on the motor. I took the heads off to get Port-polish. Could I just slap them back on and roll out.
I have 2 of those Milwaukee ratchets and they are the shit!!!!!!
my most used tool
Slopoke Same, they save so much time in small spaces.
I've always had air ratchets, but never tried a battery ratchet. Do the battery ratchets mash your fingers against the nearest piece of steel like the air ratchets do?
you have any pics of the turbo mount side manifold?? i like the cap off
yup the Milwaukee side winder is amazing!
When you were messing with gen3 engines did you ever pull the heads only to find out all or some of the pistons were loose in the bore?
I love how nasty and greasy the engine looks. Adds to the sleeper shitbox look that I love.