Dream's SECRET Plan...(The Discs DIDN'T MATTER)
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2021
- Dream's SECRET Plan...(The Discs DIDN'T MATTER) is a Minecraft Dream SMP theory video in which I mention TommyInnit, Tubbo, Dream, Wilbur Soot, Ranboo and more! Animagician explains the Dream's secret plan on the Dream SMP which involves the Dream SMP prison, Pandora's Vault, and the Dream SMP finale!
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This video is similar to my What If MUMBO JUMBO Joined The Dream SMP? and Wilbur Soot LEAKED The Dream SMP Plot...Here's How videos!
Footage from:
TommyInnit / @TommyInnit
Wilbur Soot / @WilburPlays
Quackity / @Quackity
Punz / @Punzz
Ranboo / @Ranboo
Thanks to Bluebell for helping with this video: overthinkingfandom.tumblr.com
Music: pastebin.com/ZMBX3AF3 
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you had me at "technoblade video"
Me, who doesn’t have Twitch:
Can you do a Schlatt one
You should make the Grian video before he actually joins (joke).
When are you next going live?
Dream: being locked up in prison was a calculated risk.
Quackity coming in everyday to torture him for the revive book and Sam being very very corrupt:
Dream: but man am I bad at math.
Dream: "No Pain No Gain. AHHH"
Technoblade : hello roommate
Yea dream definitely fuckd up
lol
he might have just been straight up lying
i've been thinking about that punz clip where dream says everyone's gonna hate him for forever it seems like, this is such a cool theory
What clip?
@@Stormii_73 the one mentioned in the video where dream and punz plan to stage punz's betrayal
@@toma8406 yea I prolly should’ve watched the full vid before commenting but I was only like 30 sec in lol
Sutinku
I feel like he is going the eren yeager route
So the finale either had bad writing (making dream inconsistent) or genius writing
yeah pretty much
it’s probably the latter, there’s a lot of plots that become connected later.
Tbh if this is true it would be one of the most brilliant twists ever if only for how they managed to pull the wool over the eyes of the vast majority of the fandom despite how we had all this evidence available to us for months. Hell, some people keep insisiting that the disc confrontation was genuine despite knowing about Dream and Punz conversation about faking a falling out, that's just how convincing it is.
I'd like to think everything was planned out, cuz there won't be a story without a villain and Technoblade is in prison now as well, everything is too peaceful
@@mingzhugame5698 And Techno knew beforehand that it was a trap. Interesting, huh?
I was thinking that during a techno stream, dream said his house was the biggest of the server with redstone and lava and things like that. So he just anticipated he was going to go to the prison
Lol
HOW I BECANE UNBELIEVABLY RICH
@@phayfox6130 idk how did you?
@@tbmakana thats the vid this quote is in
When Dream told Punz that they need to stage a fallout between them, he mentions that he need to go far away "to avoid death". One thing I noticed about his character is that Dream is very very *afraid of death*, maybe that is the reason why he acquired the knowledge of the revival book, maybe that is the reason why he still haven't given up and endures torture daily in the prison.
Thinking about this and how him being in prison actually favors him, I realized a striking detail. The *half-heart system* for the visitors in the prison. Whenever someone comes to visit the prisoner, they go through series of checkpoints and finally, just before they step in the main cell, their health will be reduced to half a heart. Why?
Remember when Quackity came into the cell with netherite weapons? What did Dream immediately try to do? He punched Quackity! He thought Quackity was on half a heart so that when he punches him, he dies and respawns back outside the main cell. The *Half-heart system* was established in such a way that it can protect him form whoever is trying to kill him while he is in the prison!! After all, he commissioned the prison, he wrote the waivers and he made the designs and he made the rules. But unfortunately, he trusted Sam. He trusted Sam will be an unbiased Warden. But, Sam is now taking things into his control and making decisions for his own gain, for his own grudges against Dream. Dream thought Sam would never allow visitors with weapons to come in, and thought that Quackity would have sneaked in somehow, and thought that he would be on half a heart before entering the cell, so he punched Quackity and thought he'll respawn back outside the main cell. But, odds weren't in his favor that day. From that day till now he's living through worse-than-hell situation.
But, another thought that bothered me is, if he was designing the prison for himself, why make it more inhumane? We all are aware of how inhumane the prison cell is and I think the answer is again found back in the conversation with Punz. He said the prison is for someone "Highly capable". If he made this prison for himself, he thinks he deserves this punishment! You can disagree with me here but this is also a possibility.
TLDR: Dream made the prison for himself because he felt like he deserves the punishment and to protect himself from whoever is trying to kill him for revenge. The half-heart system of the prison makes very much sense in this case, coz if anyone tries to sneak in a weapon to the main cell while visiting him, he can simply punch them and they would respawn outside the main cell. He will be protected.
Wow that makes sense
completely agree with you, but the prison has a flaw, he said it on a preview on live once, maybe its for him to escape when he needs
I have a theory of Whats gonna happen on the Dsmp lore, obiously is not confirmed, take it as a fanficiton but anyways I think this:
Quackity has been torturing dream every day, we know that, Also, dream is afraid to die (logically, he dont want to die) so he has been retaining the book info, we dont know Whats in that book, but we know its real
Dream have only a live left, but due to that, i think, the revival book had some sort of codes that dream had to reveal to know how to revive people, but, was only that on the book? I mean, we didnt knew what the book was for until everyone threated Dreams life and had no escape
Dream said that he knew how to bring People back to life, but, what if theres something we have missed?
I think, dream was keeping some more info abot that book, and I think, it was the inmortality
The book has the info of how to revive People, what if Also have the info (in codes) of how to apply the revive spell on the user infinitively, giving him an infinite canon lives generator?
Now, you Will think "but dream said he burned the book and all of that knowledge was on his head, why dream hasn't used that inmortality trick to escape prison or, escaping moments before he is imprisoned?
I think, dream hide the book in some part of the greater Dsmp, the Lmanburg ruins or in another place, and, the book was in codes that dream had to reveal, but he only discovered one, the revival spell, that taked a lot of time, and a day before the last duel with tommy and tubbo, he hided the book in some place, because, if tommy or tubbo managed to kill him, he Will see the book and obtain infinite canon lives for all the Dsmp, and dream Will lost all of the control
I think that, now technoblade is imprisoned, he Will escape with dream, and that can happen in a lot of ways:
1 ph1lza brings whithers
2 wilbur kills Sam and frees dream and techno
3 the last two, but at the same time
4 we know las nevadas is gonna start a war in one or another way, eventualy one Side of the war NEEDS more power, so frees techno and dream to help him with the condition of being chased if he tried something else
5 the eggpire wants total domination, and that affects Sam or the prison, allowing techno and dream to scape etc
Anyways, dream escapes and gets back the Book, then he gets away to discover inmortality, and on the finale of the Dsmp, he uncovers that he needs something on the end to achieve inmortality, and travels to it, somehow, the smp knows his plan and its a run against time, in the end all the smp faces of with dream, dream takes down everyone exept for important lore characters, like tommy, having a final duel, and this can happen
1 dream lose, tommy makes him drop all his thing and dream tríes to make tommy spare him again, giving him the books info if he can live, tommy dont fall for this and finally kills dream (note: this works only if dream burns the book after realising how to be inmortal) finally tommy or someone goes through the portal, ending dream smp
2 dream wins, he achieves inmortality, and kills everyone after that, dream go through the portal ald starts destroying everything, killing a lot of People making him lose all the canon lives, eventualy some sort of resistance discovers a form to killing dream forever in tha same book dream used, eventualy killing dream and reviving all the server but dream
But as a wise man one said:
"hey! Thats just a theory, a Dream theory!"
Jafet moisés Zavala Pérez but the revival book was introduced during his conversation with bad before the prison and I doubt that dream would do all this to just “kill people” that’s too petty for dreams standards i bet we don’t know his end goal at all
You’re so smart, omg
This actually makes a lot of sense honestly… if this was his plan all along I’m curious as to what his real end goal is, the theories presented at the end were both really cool. As for the stone, maybe he’s getting them to gather stone for a giant evil stone brick castle or dungeon or something. An elaborate maze or some kinds of trap that would allow him to get what he wants and unite the people of the server somehow? I don’t know but I’m excited to see what happens!
Imprison Technoblade since Dream sees him as a potential threat
i dont think so cuz he got tortured and technoblade got imprisoned the syndicate might help but i think sam and quackity will hold technoblade hostage
Yeah but quackity and his influence over Sam and las nevadas ruined many plans Wilbur might be the one to reconnect dreams plans
You can build castles and mazes out of other block though. Blackstone in particular seems very popular, but Dream needs stone specifically.
It's possible that it's for a crafting recipe. As to what they're gonna make with it, I have no idea. Redstone repeaters and comparators come to mind, but they're not the main ingredient - Willbur, Punz and Ranboo would be after redstone and just collect stone along the way. Armour stands are another possibility, but the only large-scale use of armour stands I can think of are lag machines and I doubt those are gonna help Dream break out of prison. The last possible use is stone slabs to spawn-proof a large area for a farm, or stone buttons which are used for similar purposes.
Stone is also a great way to get emeralds (which Dream would probably use for either XP bottles, beacons, pearls or golden carrots) if you have access to cured masons, but the server is not on hard mode so poisoning and curing villagers is not an option. Besides, there don't seem to be a lot of such masons on the server and can only buy so much before restocking so I don't understand why it would take three people to gather enough stone.
The only other benefit of stone specifically is that you can gather it extremely quickly, especially with Haste II. But that can't be it either because they've had plenty of time to gather it and they don't seem to be in a rush. And it's not like there aren't other options. There are a lot of blocks you can gather very quickly with the right equipment; snow, ice, leaves, dirt, concrete (both sand and gravel being insta-break with an efficiency III shovel), terracotta, prismarine etc.
Don’t forget MichaelMcchill’s first actions:
- pissing on JSchlatts grave
- Trying to break Dream out (and failing)
- Gathering two double-chests of scaffolding...
Wait a min.......omg
There's one issue with this theory, and this issue comes in the form of "Yo are these Netherite blocks?". Yeah, Technoblade is kind of a wrench in this theory, as Technoblade is very clearly on VERY good terms with Dream, I'd even argue the best terms out of anyone on the DreamSMP right now, so why is it that, when Techno entered the prison, Dream was enraged, desribing Techno as his "Only way out of [Pandora's Vault]", even when Awesamdude was out of earshot?
Probably because he had originally trusted Sam to be a fair and unbiased Warden like Dream entrusted to him
@@justifiedjackass9752 yea, sam turned out to be less fair then dream expected
Well the end goal is power for dream right so the thing about techno being his only way out could be a coverup for his plan because he might need techno
Dream and techno have no real reason to trust each other (as seen by techno hiding almost all of his wither skulls from dream, and both of them stating that they are not friends), and only agree to work together. It’s possible that dream would lie to him.
@@justifiedjackass9752 Oh no, Sam broke Dream's trust. That's not fair, Dream would never do that! But in all seriousness, Dream knew it was a trap and that Sam let's Quackity in, that belief in unbiased actions and trust had been gone for ages. He wouldn't throw a hissy fit just to drive the point in when he knows he's doesn't care, unless you believe in actually imprisoned Dream rather than secret mastermind Dream.
It’s only been one min but I’m assuming part of this is in reference to his agreement with Punz when they we’re outside the prison
Good job
I wanna point something that was said by someone in the disk finale. Some said that it was Punz who lead them to Dream's bunker. How would he know where it is ? Dream said he chose this place to be away from everyone in the smp. The only reason how he would know is that he was working with him. So your theory is kind of confirm !
Your overthinking it alot
That’s a bit of a stretch
@@TheRealWaffles1 how else would punz know where it was tho
@@trinityj134 using common sense
@@TheRealWaffles1 and ironically that makes no sense
Very good point about Dream's bunker, it is entirely built to intimidate, for theatrics. It is a glaringly obvious difference in his build styles. It raises a lot of questions.
dude... YOU NEED A OSCAR FOR YOUR THEORIES! THATS AMAZING!
Wow, thanks!
Yeah
@@ethanko9197 not really but u get the point
okay, so when you showed the stone clips I was like "nah, probably just a coincidence" but when I saw the three people side by side, it suddenly made sense to me to *not* be a coincidence. because, yeah, needing a lot of stone can happen in Minecraft, and it could have been a coincidence to be these three people, but it seems more unlikely than the theory. Because Wilbur, Ranboo and Punz are (besides Techno) the only people that have a positive connection to Dream
hey we have the same name!
Dream's plan reminds me of Lelouch's plan from Code Geass
THANK YOU! Someone had to say it.
True now I think of it, it is in a way pretty similar
All hail Dream!
Or eren yeagers plan to make all the world unite against him so they realised paradis was on their side
I always hated the tight the plans where the main character horses all the world's hatred onto himself so he could be assassinated to achieve world peace, that in and of itself is a stupid plan.
I think a very interesting thing in theory is that it makes C!Quackity an ever big deal, he is one of the only people who broke dream's plan, I really don't think C!Dream would plan to be tortured, he was sure that C!Sam would stay true to his job, he didn't expect C!Quackity to become what he become, he didn't plan to have techno visit him, what probably was his plan out in the future is now, in his view, fucked
What does "C!" mean before Quackity and Sam's name?
@@CyberedCake character
@@SilentNyan Ohhhh
@@CyberedCake "c!" Is generally used to distinguish the difference between the character from the SMP, and the creator themselves ❤️
Mirryn McWilliams why would people think they are torturing each other or killing each other? Are they a fetus?
Very strong theory!!
I had that clip of Dream and Punz talking about Punz's "betrayal" in mind for a long time, thinking that Doomsday wasn't the day where Punz betrayed Dream. Yes, he did fight on Tommy's side, maybe just to gain some trust from Tommy and others. However I think the "betrayal" in the Disc finale is much more logical.
To be honest I kinda removed that idea from my mind since the whole Las Nevadas and Quackity stuff going on, but there is still a possibility that this was Dream's plan all along. He simply just didn't expect Quackity to come torture him every day because that was simply unpredictable.
This also made me think: Is there a possibility that Sam and Dream work together? Because Sam was the one to suggest putting Dream in prison. Sam might have set off the TNT when Tommy got stuck in prison with Dream. It could be possible but you can debunk that idea very easily.
Alright that was my little rant lmao. Great video!
Do u think Purpled is Protastheus
I don't know if Dream really is the "Bad guy" in the story. Along with this theory and with what Ghostbur said to Tommy in one of his stream. "A villain is just a hero you haven't convinced yet" or something like that I really don't know that exact qoute. (Context: Tommy was building the tower outside the prison and Ghostbur asks Tommy why he is building the tower and he said to watch Dream and Ghostbur asked again why do they need to watch Dream and Tommy said that "well because he's a villain and we need to look out for him" and Ghostbur said something like that). That Ghostbur line was a bit odd, and you might think it doesn't matter because it's said by a character that's completely oblivious to the world but if you notice in stories most clues and important stuff are said by characters that are kinda like Ghostbur.
Edit: and I'm also curious about why they need so much stone and specifically stone. Not cobblestone.
Also what I want to add is that it makes sense why those past months Dream haven't asked Enderboo to go to Techno and ask him to break him out. It's probably because he never wanted to get out of prison. He wants to stay there until his plan is finally complete.
That's an interesting theory! I think the quote you're referring to is "a villian is just a hero you haven't convinced yet"
@@helloZ I think that's it I really can't remember the exact qoute I'm gonn change it now
I usually refer to c!Dream as an anti-villain.
He's always been the hero
I really hope all this will be true because I love Dream as the “Anti-villain”.
Same
I really like villain characters
"Anti-villain" ya mean?
@@santinafigueroa4145 yea sure
Theory: Sam will tell Quackity about Techno being in prison and will ask to go ‘see’ Dream and Techno in prison. This time, Sam will say no to Quackity. He knows that Quackity hates Techno and that Techno should be kept alive, for the time being. Quackity will be mad and the will get into a fight. Quackity goes back to his country (Las Nevadas) filled with anger. From this point on, it’s all up to Sam. He realizes what is happening to him and gives him self two choices 1. Step down for Prison Warden because he no longer feels like he can be responsible for the going ons in the prison 2. Stick with what he’s done, convince himself that stepping down would hurt his pride and that people would be disappointed in him, go down this dark path and basically go evil. Tommy will confront Sam about Ghostburs death (like he said he would) but somehow word slips about Ranboo’s visit to Dream. Tommy will then confront Ranboo and then...and then....idk
no
@@MarsObelyn okay
The plan for techno to go to prison was quackitys idea
@@l-gaming6571 yep. Doesn't change the fact that he will find out Techno is actually trapped from Sam
@@staple6451 LOL I DIDNT THINK YOU WOULD REPLY TO THIS, I WAS JUST PLANNING TO BE RANDOM AS HELL "no"
This is the perfect example of “Coincidence? I think not!”
THIS WAS GENIUS! Everything made sense, great job Ani! This explains so much and now I am super hyped to see what his true plans are!
they called us crazy… but we were right all along…
He didn't care about the discs 👀
THIS AGED LIKE FINE WINE
Quackity really tried to say Dream was the cause of everything and Dream continued to prove him wrong lol
That makes a lot of sense, he did seem sorta sus
Sus?!??!?!?!??!😳😳😳
*sus remix of mask plays in the background*
Dream is a strange character. His actions seem so inconsistent, yet so deliberate at the same time. I've said it before, but where in his psyche did he all the sudden become so obsessed with control? In a clip where he talks to Skeppy (in the L'Manberg era), he just says he wants unification, which is why he declared war. Yet, by the end of the disc finale his motivations are a bit skewed, and his methods are objectively immoral. Where did it all go wrong in his mind to go to such lengths? Now I'm thinking it simply *didn't*. I think its flown over everybody's heads, that maybe Dream wanted to be hated. If so, his plan would look similar to all your points in this video. The question is WHY? What bigger plan does he have, what is the prison protecting him from? Why is it so important that he needed to leave it to mercenaries and connections, so that he'd not even be publicly associated with it? We can't really pinpoint it to be honest. Dream is probably consistent in some psychological or motivational way, but we don't know enough about him to summarize his character as a whole.
Or it could've just been bad writing... but what do I know lmaoo
No its because the story is written by different people. Wilbur wanted him to be a bag guy with good intentions but done wrong. However whoever continued made dream a egotistical idiot. Theres no big plan lmao
Even though there are times where it seems like Dream’s character is written rather inconsistently, I think there’s some genius writing behind it that’s just a bit harder to find. Fans aren’t really given any insight on his character’s perspective (which I think is genius btw), ultimately leaving all this up to speculation and theory. I’ll try to answer some of your questions so it’ll be long. If you don’t want to read it, that’s fine:
Dream before the scripting began:
Initially, when Tommy came on the server, Dream saw him as a nuisance who was only causing trouble, which was kinda true. The disc battle was simply his response to being attacked and then him refusing to lose to Tommy. Then came Wilbur and the war for lmanberg independence, where Dream fought to prevent any divisions and further conflict that Tommy or Wilbur had brought or could bring to the SMP.
Wilbur’s writing for Dream:
I feel like Dream really fell into more of the scripted character after the war for independence. While the first war was scripted, Dream’s actions seemed to be rather casual and much like himself. Around the election arc, Dream didn’t involve himself too much, but once Schlatt rose to power Dream leaned more to the smaller version of chaos in Tommy, which is what led to his decision to support Pogtopia. At this point, Dream does not like any chaos that he cannot control, Schlatt being his new problem because he felt he could not contain his ambitions. Ultimately, Dream did side with Schlatt in return for the revive book, a source of power he felt would be essential with upcoming wars. Wilbur said it himself, Dream wanted conflict between Pogtopia and Manberg so that they’d both be weak and Dream could reunite the server once more. This being his reasoning for helping Wilbur blow up Manberg.
Dream’s writing for his own character:
After the second lmanberg war, Wilbur took a break, leaving the writing up to Dream. And most people already saw him as a villain, so he probably thought, “why not take my character further down the villain path?” At this point, Dream’s character seemed satisfied with the elimination of Schlatt and a peaceful leader in Tubbo taking over at lmanberg. Dream kept his distance and remained civil, until Tommy went and burnt down George’s house. This led to Dream asserting his power once more by building the wall. He demanded that Tubbo exile Tommy because he could not control him or the chaos that he continued to bring to the server. Eventually they came to a parole agreement, until Tommy broke it and threatened to burn Spirit if Dream didn’t do what he said.
This part is one of the biggest moments for Dream. When Tommy had taken Dream to the wall and forced him to start tearing it down, Dream realized the only way to strip Tommy of his final bit of power was to cut himself of his attachments. Dream snapped, telling Tommy he no longer cared for anything, which had just become true. He made the decision to cut all emotional ties in order to control Tommy.
Dream was able to keep Tommy under control out at exile for a while, but eventually Tommy escaped. In all this, Dream made an extremely clever move in saving Techno’s life, giving himself a new and powerful ally. When he saw that the repercussions of this move were soon to be upon him, he made the first move. He blew up the oldest build on the server, framing Tommy, in order to get the final item he needed to control him. He no longer had any attachments, aside from the discs because of the power they gave him.
When Tubbo gave him the disc, he was free to eliminate the very nation that for so long had stood against everything he desired for the SMP. Lmanberg was the start of divisions and conflict within the SMP, which is why Dream sought to destroy it.
The disc confrontation was when Dream’s dark psyche was revealed. His need for control had grown far beyond Tommy. He now had a desire to control everyone, so that he’d remain in power and could dictate how the server was run. Now, whether it was his plan to go in the prison by exaggerating this obsession, doesn’t matter. Even if he was staging his obsessive desire for control, his willingness to go to such lengths displays an almost equal need for control in his goal of reunifying the server. In all this, his character remains extremely well written because of his slow development and shift into obsessive control over time.
It does seem rather inconsistent that Dream would reveal the location to someone who could possibly betray him. So it seems that in putting himself in the prison, he ultimately fulfilled his goal of reuniting the server. For the first time ever, the entire server was united against a common enemy, him. And Dream’s smart, he knew it was only a time before everyone banded together to kill him permanently, so he gave them an opening. Knowing he would have people on the outside, he was willing to imprison himself to reunite everyone.
So to answer your question, there was never really a sudden moment where Dream’s obsession with control came out of no where. It was a slow development over time, which I think makes his character all the more brilliant. It all started with his inability to stop Tommy from bringing conflict to his peaceful server. Dream wanted a united and peaceful nation, which could never be possible with someone like Tommy. Not only was it his constant failure to control Tommy, but the lack of friends such as Sapnap, George, and even Punz (who claimed to be his friend as well) who were there to stop him from cutting all emotional ties. All they ever did was tell him what he did was wrong, they never stopped to try and help him. His emotional isolation and frustration in being unable to control his own server ultimately shaped his character to be obsessed with control.
@@soccergirl8763 THIS DESCRIBES HIM SO PERFECTLY
And I believe Purpled is Protastheus
The effort that went into this video is outstanding. Solid theory, even though I don't agree with some parts, like Dream stalling in the finale by threatening to kill Tubbo. Since he had the revive book at the time, killing Tubbo wouldn't be destroying leverage, it would be creating it. Imagine what he could make people do by saying "either bend to me, or Tubbo stays dead.", especially with Tubbo having so many connections on the server. Again, very solid theory, and the mystery of Wilbur, Ranboo and Punz collecting stone continues to be unsolved.
Also: The Bunker serves a double purpose in your theory. There are so many ways he could build a dramatic prison but one that's so deep? Digging such a large area? It seems almost like he had a different plan. As you said, he's very utilitarian. Maybe he was using for a dual purpose, to collect stone-
Looking back at this theory, Dream's outburst at Sam saying that he was meant to keep him alive and manipulating Sam to not tell Quackity seems to indicate that at least some of the theory was true. Not to mention the fact that Dream has a chest with maps and a book at the spot where he met Technoblade, he definitely calculated that there was at least a chance.
Another thing that further supports the theory of Dream’s premeditated imprisonment was actually revealed in techno’s latest lore stream (the visitor) when after escaping being imprisonment one of dreams books lead techno to the location they first met where a chest is burried with Blueprints which is obviously the prisons. Why would those be there if he hadn’t pre plan it . And if he didn’t put it there who did Ranboo maybe? Either way it was a intentional act of dream that suggests having planned his escape or whatever is to come of this future. So very interesting 🤨
Dream said that the prison is meant for someone powerful so maybe he did all that to put techno in the prison and techno is now in the prison
Yeah but now he will tell Techno everything about the prison.
I don’t think so.Yes Techno is powerful.But is he a big threat to Dream?No.Since Techno owns him a favor and lives in seclusion.If you don’t hurt something he cared about,he won’t attack you.
My man just leaked the lore 5 months early
He probably wanted to have the favor brought in for the prison thing since the beginning
Which is why he seemed panicky during the Technoblade visit as he thought Techno was now stuck with him
Wait, animagician. Dream did say in the finally that whatever he does is deliberate so is what he’s doing a good thing or a villainous thing?
I think the point is that we don’t know for sure
This makes so much sense and as for the stone, I think it's going to be used for something massive underground. Like another vault or a large scale trap.
Dream: Let me get myself in prison and then Punz we meet up
Punz: *gets old waiting for Dream to escape the prison that DREAM DESIGNED*
he know he cant win by force
So the alternative thing to do is wait till its chaos again
And he say Tommy I'm the one who's right
A peace we have since you decided to do chaos
Its your fault
Everything come because of you
Thats my thoughts
2 things that I was thinking while watching the video before you mentioned them(yay I actually have a brain, that's a surprise)
1. When you mentioned towards the beginning that Dream might have a bigger plan, I thought back to when he revealed his plan in the finale, and realized that is an extremely stupid and unlike Dream thing to do, especially with victory close but not quite there. though I do agree with you that that was not his entire plan, which only leaves the idea that its a red herring, or it's a set up for his real plan.
2. Once I saw the clip of Dream talking with Punz( I had never seen it before), I started thinking of Monopoly. You know how in Monopoly, if you get into jail towards the end you don't try to get out right away so you can rake in money and not have to worry about losing it? It seems like thats part of what Dream is doing. Staying safe in a place where he believed he would be safe(he clearly didn't account for Quackity)
Anyways, you mentioned all of this in your video, but I thought I would include my thought process.
Yo never thought I'd see a title like that...
The discs are people too ;(
Disc apologists be like
"I AM A PERSON. DISKS ARENT PEOPLE"
I have came to the end of a journey. Every video for a while, I have commented about Ani joining the Dream SMP. Ani hasn’t joined yet and there are no signs of him joining so this is the end. Ani, when you eventually join the SMP, remember my predictions.
RIP Ani Joining Dream SMP Meme By Me
Idk when-Now.
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i just thought of a use for the stone. when talking about his time in the after life Wilbur said that he was trapped in a stone box and Ghostbur was a visitor. maybe he is going to put people in purgatory? or something like that
But he said train station
if dream wanted to put people in purgatory then wouldn’t he just kill them
I just thought of something, how did punz and the rest of em know where to go (canonically) another possible piece of evidence for punz to still be on his side
It was confirmed today! :D
It could also have been deliberate but than he underestimated how bad the prison would be
YES! I've never stopped thinking about that Dream and Punz agreement!
CONGRATULATIONS THE THEORY ABOUT THIS BEING STAGED IS TRUE AND HAS BEEN PROVEN JUST TODAY🥳🥳🥳
how does it feel to be one of the smartest people in the world
This aged toooo well
0:15 WIlbur wasn't even writing the script for the final destruction of l'manberg or the dream prison storyline at the time.
1:05 Dream was planning on ending the war by killing Tommy and/ or Tubbo.
1:55 Dream always set the scene like the Dreamsmp vs l'manberg war in which Dream explicitly states "I want to see white flags at your base by tomorrow at dawn, or you are DEAD." which is essentially the same thing but more dramatic.
2:38 Dream literally dies twice and can't do literally anything. By doing this he intentionally traps himself in the most vulnerable spot with Quackity and the basically entire server intending to kill him.
3:38 Pretty sure Bad asked him abut why he decided to team up with Schlatt and "betray" Pogtopia. So he was replying to Bad not Sam.
4:50 It is Obviously Techno he is talking about since Techno's whole thing is that he neva dies. Dream probably wants Techno in the prison since Techno did assassinate gogy
Also Dream isnt an anarchist he wants one government as opposed of no government.
6:10 dream has a lot of enemies and the prison could capture all of them so I would argue that the prison was a very powerful asset and could be very useful for dream.
7:02 Dream barely built anything or even in charge of anything other than the prison. Plus all of dreams bases is polished like how he shaved the wood of one of his bases.
8:43 Dream always reveals parts his plans the day before a plot event like the destruction of lmanberg, and the lmanberg vs dream smp war finale.
He did make them think they had control of the situation at the disc war finale and revealed that they never did.
10:04 the day before the lmanberg vs dreamsmp war he also gave them a chance to prepare so he does let them say goodbye
10:31 Dream wanted this to be a surprise also to dreamsmp fans
11:52 Tommy says he cares about the discs more than Tubbo and the disc war doesn't seem to be canon since tommy killed dream by a minecart in the disc war.
12:41 he could control them by black mailing them with the disc.
12:58 No one and when I say no one I mean no one could have expected the entire server betray dream whther it made sense or not.
13:12 Dream wanted not to give away his trap which is why he was being vague
The stone connection doesnt even make any sense and is just random. Wilbur probably needs stone for building his new country. Also Ranboo's whole character is that he hates Dream. Not to mention that Punz didn't ask for stone and doesn't even know what to use it for. Stone isn't even a special block anyway.
It is a good theory but the evidence just doesn't fit in my opinion.
Yeah as much as I love Ani’s theory, I honestly think the final disc battle was just poorly written without Wilbur.
Dawg these are mad reaches but you might be right purely because the writer of this season has been pretty mediocre so far ngl
Dunno man, his theory seems pretty reasonable
I feel like Dream knows something we don't. In the Tales series, there is one episode where Dream doesn't change his skin, only his name.
Then, in the lost city of Mizu, Dream plays a different person, Ranbob, who believes that Dream is worthy of worship.
Dream may canonically be older than everyone else on the server, and may know about a threat that no one else does...
Makes sense, just two little nitpicks. Dream often gives dramatic villain monologues to get what he wants, (ie the Spirit speech to intimidate Tubbo and to invalidate Tommy's usefulness), and the speech does serve the purpose of showing Tommy how much power he has and further breaking his spirit, which we knows he likes to do from exile. Killing Tubbo also gives Dream even more leverage, considering he's the only one with the knowledge to bring him back from the dead. He could use the promise of revival to make Tommy behave or do whatever he wanted.
This guy got this theory of the disc finale right. It was all staged.
wait this explains why ranboo showed up to the disc confrontation in his enderwalk state
i’m guessing these are all the seasons of the dsmp series:
Creation of the server - L’manberg’s first destruction/ Wilbur’s betrayal and death. (Season 1)
L’manberg’s rebuild/George’s house destruction - Tommy and Tubbo’s saving (Season 2)
Dream’s imprisoning - TBC (Season 3)
TBC stands for To Be Continued
Another thing of dream wanted to escape the base underground where everyone was. it was basically a room full of leverage.
Also one more thing about the stone theory, in one Technoblade stream from a couple months ago. Techno yeeted an enderpearl with a trident trick and landed in a small stone castle, without even playing it off he said “ignore that thats for another storyline”. The castle was made out of regular stone, no other block was used. Idk what this might mean but i just remembered it pretty vividly and this seems like a good time to share.
I feel Dream could've killed Tubbo if he wanted to, even when Punz and the rest were encircling him. All it would take was an Ender Pearl (which he had stacks of), teleport behind Tubbo, and strike him since he was at low health, then use his revival book card or simply leave once he was inevitably killed.
But he wants people to become overconfident, see him as weak and unable to defend himself, and thus when he ultimately escapes, he will catch everybody off guard, and this time there wouldn't be any goodbyes.
This is so good I love your theory
It's very interesting to go back and watch these theories w/ the knowledge we have currently
are we not talking about the Home Depot orchestra playing in the background?
15:50 i just always jokeingly make fun of voice cracks lol
why did this get a heart lmao
The ARG was most likely solved by red Hareing in a video from a few months ago as Wilbur commented on it saying that they are smart or something IDK I forgot.
This makes so much flipping sense
Great video!
Glad you think so!
Hey Animagician can you do a theory on how dream has lost more than or three lives. I bring this up because, he lost his first life in the first disc war, his second was when tommy hit him with a minecart that started another war so there's two, and then he lost his final one to the tommy killing him then he lost a fourth one to tommy again. So if he lost that many lives then he doesn't need to stay in the prison he is immortal, so please cover this its a weird fact of knowledge that alot of people forgot about it. or at least i think they have.
I love it. I had this theory in February but hate writing. Thanks for putting my thoughts down for me
HOLY SHIT ANI, I THINK YOU LITERALLY CALLED IT JUDGING BY THE RECENT LORE
I see Animagician upload, i click.
its a happy life
This Makes So Much Sense, I Love It!
In Minecraft, stone can be used for three things, and three things only.
1.) Building, you can use the stone, stone walls, stone slabs, stone stairs, and convert stone into other forms, such as bricks.
2.) Selling, you can trade 20 Stone to apprentice level mason villagers for 1 emerald.
3.) Redstone, stone is an important component in red stone repeaters and comparators.
I personally think that Ranboo, Wilbur, and Punz are making something redstone related. No matter how much dust you have, redstone is finite without repeaters. With three stone per repeater and with the sheer volume of stone they've all been gathering, it's possible that they're planning to make some kind of machine with redstone repeaters, possibly to lag the prison to give Dream a chance to escape, or create TNT canons to blow up the prison from afar without getting Fatigued.
To be honest, this is a very loose idea, but the other options are acquiring vast sums of wealth for Dream to buy him out of prison from Sam, which I doubt, or building something, which I also don't see how that would help.
If this were the case, wouldn't they be stockpiling absurd amounts of redstone as well? Stone isn't the limiting resource by a long shot
Animagician is becoming mat pat lmao
Lmao the parallels are unreal now that I see it
I agree with some of the things in the video.
My theory is: Dream and Sam are actually working together, Dream once showed a clip of his next lore, in his stream, and there we saw dream had weapons and armor and he was with Sam ,their plan was to capture techno (highly capable) in the prison, and he is now, dream might leave with the help of Sam,
and idk where Quackity is, it's a stupid theory but whatever 😅
The clip he showed is supposed to be set back when the prison was built.
@@lilowhitney8614 yaa, I didn't think of that, that could be the thing, idk 😅
i think this makes sense, but i think it was meant as a backup plan for dream, so that IF he lost sam would imprison him instead of killing
But why would he want to win?
@@iphito7539 ??? why WOULDNT he want to win lol??
I’ve always been about half convinced that Dream went to prison to avoid the egg.
If immortal Dream is true, and we see him in the various Tales episodes as soft proof of this, then he would know about the egg. The prison started being built around the same time as Bad found the egg, if I’m remembering things correctly.
The smooth stone idea is interesting. There’s only two uses I can think of for it. Redstone components, stone and smooth stone being used in things like comparators and repeaters, and potentially a bunker that would be safe from the egg. After all, BBH had to excavate it to release it. It was encased in stone, not obsidian, when it was dormant.
My theory goes as such. Dream wanted everyone unified against him, needed to get himself out of the way, so that they could focus on the growing threat of the egg. He’s been using his allies to prepare for the egg, and maybe will bring back in the dreamon plotline alongside that.
Especially with both Ranboo and Dream confirming all the plotlines will eventually be pulled together, I can only assume we’re gonna get a Syndicate vs Eggpire vs Dreamon final battle at some point.
That would epic, if they do it right
But didn't eggpire lost the egg when pro omelette group and quackity fought together agaist the eggpire.
@@mjsupport78 they lost access to the Egg, but it’s been assumed Sam trapped it in obsidian to “contain” it. Last time it was covered in obsidian, it developed blast resistance and made its obsidian prison into crying obsidian instead, right? If it really is contained with obsidian, it will only get stronger.
I doubt the Eggpire is gone for good. They’ve retreated, but the Egg itself is far from destroyed. Maybe the plotline is ended, I can’t be certain myself. But I really hope it isn’t. It’s too interesting a plot to just leave like that.
@@CrysiCrysis I personally just wish it doesn’t end up like an M.Night Shyamalan movie, all build-up and no crescendo.
Sonal Parmar Lost, didn't destroy. Don't forget it's sentient: it could easily form another plan.
That makes so much sense I mean well I have a wierd theory off that it’s kinda wierd but my adhd mind does those things
I love this theory, I didnt think of all those pieces because I remember dream never really had punz betray him the closest to that was when punz fought for lmanburg and dream didnt, but that is a major backstab and maybe dream wants everyones to fall in a sense of security, also maybe dream knew of the eggs attack and wanted to dodge it, but if everyone calmed down, then dream would attack out of no where
This theory is so good but I don't want to believe any possible theory at this moment because dream and ranboo once said that the whole storyline is very unpredictable, and the few lore streams some weeks ago are already enough unpredictable so im just gonna sit here and wait for the lore stream to happen:)
this is really good. I love hearing about lore theories and talking about why things happen. The stone could be for the walls he was talking about. he wants to keep people in a place where he can monitor, right? I mean think about it he always wants a high ground he always wants to know everything going down. he's always wanted walls around areas especially for L'manburg. However I don't know anything for sure but it's just a thought. can't wait to see what else you find out!!
1:22 *_*insert overdramatic Home Depot theme*_*
Ani this makes alot of sense actually like oh my god-
You're a genius!
Guys, Slimes starting to collect stone too. When ranboo meet him, a little after the house alarm went off, he talked about getting stone. Do you think some of the people he's been watching have been doing so he's doing it too. Or is this something he's doing for dream? Or am I overthinking, probably.
if this was all staged it would make scense that technoblade after escaping found blueprints placed by dream
This is my thought exactly!! Awesome video
Woah you have grown a lot since I last saw your channel
holy you GENIUS YOU GOD DAMN GENIUS
watching this back now, damn you are so right
Would you look at that....
imagine if this was all dreams dream
Just here to say that we are still in DSMP season 1, I don't remember when this happened but there was an Awesamdude stream a while ago where Sam and Dream first brought up the idea of creating a new world because of the new Caves and Cliffs generation, and they said that the new world would be the start of season 2
Inside the cell, there is a chest full of books and quills. These, when filled with complex ASCII characters, can ban players, as we have seen in several other prisons and 2b2t. The only way to stop being kicked is using admin commands to clear inventories.
All the security measures inside heavily restrict movement, making a book ban almost impossible to escape. Dream can use these books to effectively delete other characters out of the SMP. Imagine if Sam visited the cell, and Dream simply threw a book at his feet, erasing Sam without leaving a single trace.
You really deserve more subs man!
I appreciate that!
5:19 OR a future thread like BBH or Tommy.
idk if this is in the video or not yet since im like only a few minutes in rn, so basically i have this very clear memory of c!Dream saying "I am always one step ahead of you Tommy" I don't know which stream it was since I only have a memory of it. anyways yeah i believe that since most of the time when c!Tommy had a plan to defeat c!Dream , Dream always had something that would help him later on, yeah anyways that's all
When I saw the finale I immediately thought of the clip with Punz. Glad to know I wasn't the only one, lol.
I was always believing that he planned the whole thing, and that Punz didnt betray him. It was all part od his plan. But about the stone collecting thing, I only knew that Wilbur was doing this. So now that I know Punz and Ranboo are doing the same, only prooves my theory.
But I must say, I really like this video. Great job!
sooo Dream is straight-up pulling a Lelouch Vi Britania from Code Geass
I just started watching dsmp a few months ago but this makes sense.
I’ve been thinking about this for quite some time :)
Heard a theory that the egg only controls people who don't have attachments hence why Tommy isn't effected at all by it. And with Fundy mentioning Dreamons upon first seeing the egg where Bad dug out a base for them, it could be safe to assume that Dream knew the egg was there and by stating that his plan was to get everything people were attached to to get ultimate control over the server that he was creating servants for the egg.
I do kinda wanna mention, Tommy loves cobble stone and even though it may sound weird but dream may be using them for luring or some sort of building Tommy would go to because it’s stone