Nice to see new blood in the community! COH 2 is really the best current RTS to watch - way more interesting than SC2 in my honest opinion. Spread the word! The more people know this game the more casts we will see =)
OMG you crack me up, 5:30 the flamethrower is like "a drunken man urinating" I love your commentary. I thought you and your partner complimented each other very well in the cast. Well done!
As an experienced 4v4 player, let me give some valid advice to the top players, just because I can: Noggano lost because: 1) no Sturmtiger 2) PanzerHQ should have been placed in the middle of the map 3) no mentioning of gardening in the game chat 4) no expensive skins
pretty normal k/d ratio if u r playing soviets... i mean, i've heard a saying: "if we throw enough bodies at the bullets, eventually, they'll run out of bullets"
Why he lost? The second ober was a mistake. He should of get a Jagdpanzer IV instead of a second ober or p4. When he ordered p4 he got the tiger still, so it was ok decision. Even a rakatenwerfer would be a better decision than ober. More anti-tank stuff is required.
Yep thought the same, extra raketten should have been the choice in my eyes. Maybe even the first ober was a mistake too, all his infantry was doing was to get shot 2 models a time by tanks. Noggano could have seen this happen in luvnest's semi finals where he won soviet against okw too and the same ober mistake was made and failed.
yeah by the time the P4 arrived it became a bad choice. a late cancel into Jagdpanzer or then waiting for Panther is what i expected to see. An extra raketenwerfer couldn't hurt either. Still gg both players, great game.
I dont get how its possible to manage that many troops at once over the whole map. If I split my units, I'll hear "Grenade!!" and 2 seconds later "we lost an infantry platoon" while I'm still trying to figure out which platoon and where.
I've recently got into your COH1 casts, watched probably 15 hours of them and started (re)playing COH1 myself again. This is the first time I see COH2 in a long time and I can finally get a lot of the comparative COH1 vs COH2 comments. Being used to COH1 now, graphics and sound design have *really* taken a step down, especially also UI readability (map!). Gotta play it myself to see some of the better utility tho, definitely not a fan of the collapsing unit ribbons on the side of the screen in COH1, 2 does thismuch better.
Germany was out-armored. When he rushed with Tiger and Puma he was met with a sucker punch by a fresh T34. That was a few nails in the coffin. Needed that panzer 4 much sooner.
He also got unlucky and bounced/missed the kill shot on that weak T-34-85 too long that it got his Tiger killed. RNG fucks over even the best of players.
Did not expect that result, it seemed like he was getting too many squads wiped, and that the other players veteran squads would have eventually pushed him off the map, tanks tho
is there ever an ally vs ally? wat if the two best guys wanted to go head to head in a match like this but one played soviets one played brits for example?
I dont think so The armies arent really balanced nor designed with Cold War in mind, so it probably would be a clusterfuck Still would love to see it though
I don't know if anyone has news, but if someone reads this, can I have some info on Talisman? Obviously Coh2 isn't a major 'eSport' like CS:GO with spies, rumours and millions of dollars; but ever since watching some games, I've fallen in love with Talisman's OKW. I just want to know what happened to him? In my heart he's #1...
Because the 2nd T-34-85 didn't come out yet and Noganno knew he had to strike when he saw his opponent weak. What got him to lose wasn't the strike necessarily, but the bad RNG he suffered during the strike which got his Tiger killed instead of the T-34-85. The vet 5 Puma bounced and the Tiger missed their kill shots respectively on the near death T-34-85. This caused the Tiger to remain out of position with 4 guns possible to fire on it which ended up leading to its demise.
Yeah OKW should have went with some sort of antitank and artillery to counter the soviet tanks and infantry. Never try to go toe to toe with an enemy that can spam tanks and infantry but loved the match awesome game play.
COH2 Soviet Conscript Play in a nutshell: "Hey, that´s a nice squad wipe you got there. Would be a shame if I spawned 2 new squads just to compensate for it, y´know, comrade?"
I guess I know why they called them Keyboard Warriors. Look at all these " experts " on the comment section...instead of they actually joining any competition, they just gonna flex their muscles here on RUclips chat lol....yes I believe OKW player did have some mistakes, but hey that's how it is. It's EZ to correct the mistakes just because you're watching them play, but when you're in hie shoes, the pressure etc you will have acted and thought different....so just sit the fuck down bois...and just enjoy the damn game.... Go flex your muscles in your own game instead of running your gum here.
I never considered buying this game because of how horribly balanced COH1 was (which I played). Any opinions? Is COH2 better balanced? Should I get it?
Dat t34 85 tho. One shot from Tiger missmicroed on the su 85 and then both shots from Puma and, Tiger misses t34. Crucial little misstake and huge rng saves the t34. Intense af game
I need to get my arse moving with coh2. I want a piece of these ridiculous prize pools! Just to play a game REALLY GOOD!? YESSSSSS! In there like swim wear. In there like booty hair!!!
Sorry my English is Not the best, learned in game Lobbys Not in the school....but what i wanna say is that U Guys make an awesome Job... I am Wondering, U Guys should bei esports commentators :D
That tiger was the loss of nagano, losing a tiger wasn’t worth in that situation. The tiger would have killed the other tanks , there was a panzer 4 already coming plus the puma moving around.
just on thing...soviets > OKW. All early and mid game nogano lost just a luch II vs 4 or 5 conscrits and a t70. But u can make 4 t34-85 and win the game.
Luvnest did not lose 4-5 conscripts... And Nagano didn't just lose his luchs, he also lost his AT gun and his MG34, both of which got stolen by Luvnest.
Yeah tbh that lucky miss and bounce on that T-34 meant that his Tiger stayed there too long and got promptly rushed by the fresh T-34-85. That single play decided the game and caused Noggano to lose. The game could have easily went the other way if either shot landed and we might have even seen the SU-85 go down in that moment which would have seen Luvnest lose.
What sucks about CoH is that players on OSX can't join the Windows online community. My PC died recently and now I can't even use my work laptop to play CoH. Sucks.
Too much luck factor in the game. When they will play against the same faction in a mirrored map with RNG turned off, it will be a real world championship. Now it is a bit like poker.
i see where you are coming from, even the fact that the bullets can miss or bounce off is still left to chance, unlike other RTS games its a sure hit, but i guess its what makes CoH Special xD
@ I'm not sure your language or response is warranted. If you analyse the final, can you please let us all know what the ratio of Axis/Allied wins were between the 5 matches? There are CLEAR issues. For example a defunct Ostheer 4th tier (one of many). Perhaps you are masking your low intellect by taking infantile digs at me. Instead of shooting your mouth off like an imbecile how about you respond in an intelligent manner?
Ginnungagap I don’t even play this game but you can still assert your useless term on me. No offense taken as I’m not as big as a shitstain nerd as you. Sperg. Seriously get a life man, you’re pathetic.
Surely this is enough to convince even the blind fool that OKW is far from 'OP'. The units are arguably more than double the cost of Soviets due to initial purchase and upkeep; but nowhere near twice as effective (makes sense, game balance is important) but therein lies the problem. In its own way this current state of design is the furthest thing away from balance. Well, I feel like this is a great commentary on how not to run an economy and the consequences of a corrupt system (pay more for less). I also don't know why the allied community tends to be so aggressive in comparison to the axis when it comes to balancing discussions. No surprise we end up where we are. Man, why can't I just play OKW in peace without having any and all faction unique features either removed or nerfed into the ground? Is Relic even the ones still developing this game anymore? When core design elements get removed, serious re-evaluations are in order. When you remove key features of starting units (suppression on Kubel for eg.) you need to re-evaluate the overall army and consider the flow on consequences such a change has to the entire game! It's kind of like saying to only one player in a game of chess that they can't move their knight until the 3rd turn of the game. If you deprive them of the opportunity to play a proper opening, they're screwed for the rest of the game. I feel like the same applies to OKW...
@@r.daneelolivaw1343 I do play Soviets and USF and to a lesser extent the UKF as well. The Soviets really feel easier to play and the T70 is definitely a broken unit. This tank kills pretty consistently on retreating units as well! I occasionally have issues with the extra models in pathing where one might get suppressed by an MG, but hitting the sprint button solves all issues. I kid you not, bleeding OKW is not hard. My point still stands at the time of writing this comment.
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New player in the game. Absolutely enjoying these commentators
Nice to see new blood in the community! COH 2 is really the best current RTS to watch - way more interesting than SC2 in my honest opinion. Spread the word! The more people know this game the more casts we will see =)
Me too, I'm finding it great to watch games
SC2 is better imo this is still a great game and these casters are great
Check out Tightrope's channel, my favourite COH2 caster
@@childofconvienience I love SC2 and honestly that's a better esport game but man, CoH2 is just so much pure fun both to play and to watch.
OMG you crack me up, 5:30 the flamethrower is like "a drunken man urinating" I love your commentary. I thought you and your partner complimented each other very well in the cast. Well done!
As an experienced 4v4 player, let me give some valid advice to the top players, just because I can:
Noggano lost because:
1) no Sturmtiger
2) PanzerHQ should have been placed in the middle of the map
3) no mentioning of gardening in the game chat
4) no expensive skins
This guy coh2's
hengdegietttre maybe watch the video and stop reading comments 👍
@@strayanumbawun1620 You don't need to have your eyes glued while they're talking on screen. Don't leave spoilers.
no expensive skins? hoo thats basic!
And you don’t need to read the comments either woooooah
That may have been the best COH2 game played in terms of excellent game play by both players at their best.
I like these guys. They’re just chill I can vibe to it. Not overly dramatic but highlight the exciting moments well. Nice job guys.
Really love this commentary of yours, keep it up, it keeps me interested in CoH2.
17:40
Funny how they talk about exceptional unit preservation while Luvnest is losing his conscripts
pretty normal k/d ratio if u r playing soviets... i mean, i've heard a saying:
"if we throw enough bodies at the bullets, eventually, they'll run out of bullets"
Keeping soviet conscripts and engineers alive for so long against OKW troops is quite a feat indeed :d
I couldn't do that
Why he lost? The second ober was a mistake. He should of get a Jagdpanzer IV instead of a second ober or p4. When he ordered p4 he got the tiger still, so it was ok decision. Even a rakatenwerfer would be a better decision than ober. More anti-tank stuff is required.
Especially against the stronger version of T34
Yep thought the same, extra raketten should have been the choice in my eyes. Maybe even the first ober was a mistake too, all his infantry was doing was to get shot 2 models a time by tanks. Noggano could have seen this happen in luvnest's semi finals where he won soviet against okw too and the same ober mistake was made and failed.
yes....even 2 Jagdpanzer IV
yeah by the time the P4 arrived it became a bad choice. a late cancel into Jagdpanzer or then waiting for Panther is what i expected to see. An extra raketenwerfer couldn't hurt either. Still gg both players, great game.
Britain: we may not have many esports stars, but we apparently dominate casting lol
1:19 Badass cinematic right there 👌
I dont get how its possible to manage that many troops at once over the whole map.
If I split my units, I'll hear "Grenade!!" and 2 seconds later "we lost an infantry platoon" while I'm still trying to figure out which platoon and where.
keep hitting the space bar, it will go to different units, although like you I'm also struggling
I just keep my eye on the top shields constantly and it ain't soooo bad.
How did they do the view without the UIs on 19:00?
It's not 'alt' - observer mode allows you to remove the UI with ctrl+U
I've recently got into your COH1 casts, watched probably 15 hours of them and started (re)playing COH1 myself again.
This is the first time I see COH2 in a long time and I can finally get a lot of the comparative COH1 vs COH2 comments. Being used to COH1 now, graphics and sound design have *really* taken a step down, especially also UI readability (map!). Gotta play it myself to see some of the better utility tho, definitely not a fan of the collapsing unit ribbons on the side of the screen in COH1, 2 does thismuch better.
God i love this game even im not playing it
Germany was out-armored. When he rushed with Tiger and Puma he was met with a sucker punch by a fresh T34. That was a few nails in the coffin. Needed that panzer 4 much sooner.
He also got unlucky and bounced/missed the kill shot on that weak T-34-85 too long that it got his Tiger killed. RNG fucks over even the best of players.
@Kenshin Himura Shut the fuck up you neckbeard weeb.
great work lads, keep up the good work bros
Kapan ada lagi kejuaran COH2?
Did not expect that result, it seemed like he was getting too many squads wiped, and that the other players veteran squads would have eventually pushed him off the map, tanks tho
is there ever an ally vs ally? wat if the two best guys wanted to go head to head in a match like this but one played soviets one played brits for example?
I dont think so
The armies arent really balanced nor designed with Cold War in mind, so it probably would be a clusterfuck
Still would love to see it though
coh3 when?
@Premier League or half life 3, star citizen release, etc
Wow, what a great game 1!
I don't know if anyone has news, but if someone reads this, can I have some info on Talisman? Obviously Coh2 isn't a major 'eSport' like CS:GO with spies, rumours and millions of dollars; but ever since watching some games, I've fallen in love with Talisman's OKW. I just want to know what happened to him? In my heart he's #1...
"The rhombus of death" ahaha
What map is this?
these matches never fail to entertain
34:15 - 35:08
the euphoria luvnest must've felt...
ALSO 37:26
is what me and my sibling say to each other when we're 1v1-ing
Are Caches not allowed in tournament games?
Its not used in 1v1 because manpower is the most important resource there.
so why did Noggano pushed just 30s before P4 arrived. if he had waited a little more....
Because the 2nd T-34-85 didn't come out yet and Noganno knew he had to strike when he saw his opponent weak. What got him to lose wasn't the strike necessarily, but the bad RNG he suffered during the strike which got his Tiger killed instead of the T-34-85. The vet 5 Puma bounced and the Tiger missed their kill shots respectively on the near death T-34-85. This caused the Tiger to remain out of position with 4 guns possible to fire on it which ended up leading to its demise.
Yeah OKW should have went with some sort of antitank and artillery to counter the soviet tanks and infantry. Never try to go toe to toe with an enemy that can spam tanks and infantry but loved the match awesome game play.
So early it's still in 360p!
refresh
Wow, im glad this game is still alive since ww2... IMprEsiVe
good job AE
Please upload in HD
refresh
COH2 Soviet Conscript Play in a nutshell: "Hey, that´s a nice squad wipe you got there. Would be a shame if I spawned 2 new squads just to compensate for it, y´know, comrade?"
Nah, conscripts suck
I guess I know why they called them Keyboard Warriors. Look at all these " experts " on the comment section...instead of they actually joining any competition, they just gonna flex their muscles here on RUclips chat lol....yes I believe OKW player did have some mistakes, but hey that's how it is.
It's EZ to correct the mistakes just because you're watching them play, but when you're in hie shoes, the pressure etc you will have acted and thought different....so just sit the fuck down bois...and just enjoy the damn game....
Go flex your muscles in your own game instead of running your gum here.
I never considered buying this game because of how horribly balanced COH1 was (which I played). Any opinions? Is COH2 better balanced? Should I get it?
Get CoH2 has better balance
Why no panzerschrecks? Awesome match nonetheless!
These commentators are really good, wish i could get them to comment on one of my games :D
Dat t34 85 tho. One shot from Tiger missmicroed on the su 85 and then both shots from Puma and, Tiger misses t34. Crucial little misstake and huge rng saves the t34. Intense af game
Just bought the game a couple weeks ago and i love it i think my pc is a littlw out dated but i dont care i love it lol couple glitches but runs great
I need to get my arse moving with coh2. I want a piece of these ridiculous prize pools! Just to play a game REALLY GOOD!? YESSSSSS! In there like swim wear. In there like booty hair!!!
Awesome
£10,000 is most definitely not $20,000 anymore lol
10 000é is 100 000 tl now
Sorry my English is Not the best, learned in game Lobbys Not in the school....but what i wanna say is that U Guys make an awesome Job... I am Wondering, U Guys should bei esports commentators :D
34:20 I felt that
That tiger was the loss of nagano, losing a tiger wasn’t worth in that situation. The tiger would have killed the other tanks , there was a panzer 4 already coming plus the puma moving around.
The tiger suffered from bad rng
just on thing...soviets > OKW.
All early and mid game nogano lost just a luch II vs 4 or 5 conscrits and a t70.
But u can make 4 t34-85 and win the game.
Luvnest did not lose 4-5 conscripts... And Nagano didn't just lose his luchs, he also lost his AT gun and his MG34, both of which got stolen by Luvnest.
This map looks a little imbalance, that two vp is closer to one another but im not an expert in this game it's just my opinion.
That double miss on that T34 was BS lol
Yeah tbh that lucky miss and bounce on that T-34 meant that his Tiger stayed there too long and got promptly rushed by the fresh T-34-85. That single play decided the game and caused Noggano to lose. The game could have easily went the other way if either shot landed and we might have even seen the SU-85 go down in that moment which would have seen Luvnest lose.
Опа, Ноггано здорова, славяне вперёд!
when that p4 cooked off so did i
What sucks about CoH is that players on OSX can't join the Windows online community. My PC died recently and now I can't even use my work laptop to play CoH. Sucks.
Becouse of this video i join to Coh2 and dont leave it at this time
Luvnest not recruiting a single MG but instead reinforcing with more Conscripts is like sigh ..
This is why COH1 is superior and a more balanced game.
Yeah... Balanced Panzer Elite core inf...
"Fighting for his chance at 20 thousand...the best part of 20 thousand dollars...10 thousand pounds".
Uhm...okay...
10/10
28:58 xD
Coh 1 much better...why only make tournaments of coh1?
Because CoH2 is much better
Never dying game
That puma made him lose the game
Building the luchs was a mistake
Friends :What's your favorite game ?
Me : it's long story
Супер игра
great comeback by Luvnest
but I wish to see single fucking mortar
Wow so unreal...coh 1 Blitzkrieg mod ist 1000 Times better 🙈😅
At last a German win , Oh wait ,WTF they lost again.
Bullshit unbalanceated game. T-34 insane vs infantry
Soviet op, that's nothing new.
The game is broken....
Soviet is broken vs OST, not OKW. They just need to nerf the T70
@@rosaparks6479 Don't forget Stalin's personal super soldier death squads,the Shock troops
no mortars, its not world war 2 without mortars LOL or artillery...
when russia is using blietskreig tacktics
Cделайте ЗиС 3 без бага, нахер ваш турнир
This game has been dead for the better half of a decade.
Very little people give a shit.
Too much luck factor in the game. When they will play against the same faction in a mirrored map with RNG turned off, it will be a real world championship. Now it is a bit like poker.
Idk man sometimes you need luck in battle, too.
@@generalfred9426 but its nit a battle.its a game...
Just same faction?
OMG! Starcraft, the founder game of E-Sports, is not good enough for this guy.
i see where you are coming from, even the fact that the bullets can miss or bounce off is still left to chance, unlike other RTS games its a sure hit, but i guess its what makes CoH Special xD
You seriously believe Poker is a luck based game?
Allies as per usual. Ludicrously OP. The community will indeed lose faith in the competency of Relic.
@ I'm not sure your language or response is warranted. If you analyse the final, can you please let us all know what the ratio of Axis/Allied wins were between the 5 matches? There are CLEAR issues. For example a defunct Ostheer 4th tier (one of many). Perhaps you are masking your low intellect by taking infantile digs at me. Instead of shooting your mouth off like an imbecile how about you respond in an intelligent manner?
Ginnungagap Dude you’d re such a sperglord. Get a life nerd.
Ginnungagap I don’t even play this game but you can still assert your useless term on me. No offense taken as I’m not as big as a shitstain nerd as you. Sperg. Seriously get a life man, you’re pathetic.
Ginnungagap Life, get one. Go.
Surely this is enough to convince even the blind fool that OKW is far from 'OP'. The units are arguably more than double the cost of Soviets due to initial purchase and upkeep; but nowhere near twice as effective (makes sense, game balance is important) but therein lies the problem. In its own way this current state of design is the furthest thing away from balance. Well, I feel like this is a great commentary on how not to run an economy and the consequences of a corrupt system (pay more for less).
I also don't know why the allied community tends to be so aggressive in comparison to the axis when it comes to balancing discussions. No surprise we end up where we are. Man, why can't I just play OKW in peace without having any and all faction unique features either removed or nerfed into the ground? Is Relic even the ones still developing this game anymore? When core design elements get removed, serious re-evaluations are in order. When you remove key features of starting units (suppression on Kubel for eg.) you need to re-evaluate the overall army and consider the flow on consequences such a change has to the entire game! It's kind of like saying to only one player in a game of chess that they can't move their knight until the 3rd turn of the game. If you deprive them of the opportunity to play a proper opening, they're screwed for the rest of the game. I feel like the same applies to OKW...
Just try to play allies sometimes, like soviets, maybe you'll understand how much wrong are you :)
@@r.daneelolivaw1343 I do play Soviets and USF and to a lesser extent the UKF as well. The Soviets really feel easier to play and the T70 is definitely a broken unit. This tank kills pretty consistently on retreating units as well! I occasionally have issues with the extra models in pathing where one might get suppressed by an MG, but hitting the sprint button solves all issues. I kid you not, bleeding OKW is not hard. My point still stands at the time of writing this comment.