FIND DEEP SKY OBJECTS IN THE SKY and FINE TUNE star tracker position | Sky-Watcher Star Adventurer
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In this video I show how to find deep sky objects in the sky and point your star tracker like a Sky-Watcher Star Adventurer into the correct spot in the sky for deep sky astrophotography. I explain the entire process of locating a deep sky object in the night sky like e.g. Orion Nebula or Andromeda Galaxy and then how to fine tune star tracker position in order to get the perfect framing. I share some very useful tools that I use in this process like websites and apps that can help tremendously with the entire process. We are not using the ballhead on the declination bracket which for beginners might be counter-intuitive but the way the tracker is designed we can actually get way better precision by just mounting the camera with a telephoto lens or a small telescope directly on the bracket.
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► (Amazon) geni.us/BIlNzVk - Sky-Watcher Star Adventurer Pro Pack
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► (Amazon) geni.us/aXs0 - Base for Star Adventurer
► (Amazon) geni.us/WlVWL1S - Lens tripod mounting ring
► (Amazon) geni.us/JV3H - Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM (excellent lens for moon photos, landscapes and deep sky astrophotography)
► (Amazon) geni.us/2ETqt - "The Martian" (the book)
► CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
01:07 Deciding which object to photograph
05:52 Finding that deep sky object in the sky
11:24 Adjusting the tracker to point at the right spot (without ball head)
16:47 Fine tuning the framing
APPS / WEBSITES:
► telescopius.com/ - figuring out what to photograph
► stellarium.org/ - night sky map
► www.pointsinfocus.com/tools/d... - angle of view calculator
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Nicely done!
Thanks Sky-Watcher!
You are in Krakow, Poland. I have relatives living there now, and ancestors came from that region of Poland. You are my hero!
They should get you to do a video version of the instruction booklet
I watched the first video you made on setting up the Adventure and then this one. You have done a superior job in both of these tutorials in presenting the material in a very easy to understand format with lots of hands on demonstrations to go with the information you are teaching. A lot of people that make tutorials should come see your videos to understand how to properly do a tutorial. Keep up the fantastic work!!
Thank you so much Don, I really appreciate that!
Thank you! I couldn’t wrap my head around how to point at virtually anything. As soon as you started loosening both clutch’s I was like ... ohhhhh
This is the best I have seen in the ability to explain how to use this equipment...thank you
Thanks! And actually, next week I will post a vlog from a trip where I went to shoot the night sky with this equipment and I explain how to do a lot of stuff out there in the field in real world situation. I even have footage from INSIDE the polar scope! Stay tuned 😊
@@kamilkp sound interesting. 👍🏻👍🏻
This is great, a lot of information here, thank you!
Ahhhh that section for fine tuning was a lifesaver. Each time my azimuth was out slightly while framing an object I was loosening the main clutch to move the camera. Now I know I can just use those buttons on the size. Thanks!!
You’re welcome - I’m glad it helped you!
@@kamilkp exactly! had viewed many other reviews of star trackers, lacking to mention such very important feature how to fine tune framing - my worries were about loosing the target all the time I work with the set up! Unlike with go-to machines..
Your explanations are si clear... Thank you !
Excellent video, very clear instructions.
As promised! Thank you for another super-useful video, mate!
Thanks 👌
I OWE YOU MY ENTIRE PROJECT!!! So many channels don't show you that you have to tighten the clutch and so I was so confused when I couldn't get the counter balance to lock in and nearly gave up but you genuinely have saved my uni project so thankyou so much!!
Great video Kamil & doing my homework on night photography and find this video along with your SA set up video great starting points. Thanks....DanC
Thanks a lot for this. Another perfect tutorial! 🙏👌
excellent video thank you so much for going to so much time and trouble.
Agreed this and tyhe previous vids are some of the best, short and to the point tutorials I've seen on YT.
Thank you so much Kamil. Great teacher. :)
I just bought the sky adventure and I found your setup guide! Thanks for the very detail guide better than reason the install guide
Thx for this video Kamil, I was confused on this subject because of your previous videos on using the ballhead, but this makes complete sense.
Thank You for all your effort making these videos! It is a great help. I'm still waiting for clear skies to try out my new tracker but it will come eventually.
Thanks for providing so much detail. Btw, I was in Krakow a few years ago and really loved it.
Beautiful bro!!! Nice talk! Fully support you !
Thanks! Glad you liked it 😊
Very helpful thanks 👍
I've been imaging with an alt-az Goto-mount and an MSM Startracker (smaller lenses) with a ballhead. I recently (yesterday actually) got a Star Adventurer and I was wondering if there was any tricks I'd missed for aiming at a target. I know it's possible since I've seen so many use the SA without ballhead - this video made it all so much clearer. Another great one Kamil. I've learned lots from your Star Adventurer videos.
Super! Found the one I asked for!
Just about ready to shoot.
Thanks
Excellent video. Very well explained. I just got star adventure tracker. I will try as you explained.
Hi Kamil, many thanks for this, I have just bought the 2i and took it out for the first time tonight. Having watched this video has helped me loads to understand my errors. Your description of the various apps was really useful too.
Excellent thank you! Will definitely choose this over the iOptron.
iOptron SkyGuider Pro is also a solid option but I would definitely choose the Star Adventurer over it. Thanks for the comment - much appreciated 😊
Many thanks for your Info Vid👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
a well earned thumbs up
Brilliant! Subbed!
This video, yes! This helped me so much! Like so much, that I might actually get a photo soon! Subbed!
Awesome, I’m glad I could help! 😊
Amazing video, thank you!
Thanks! I’m glad you liked it 😊
Just got my Sky Adventurer today, had no idea what I was doing looking through the manual. Your set up video and this video were exactly what I needed to give it a go tomorrow night. Thank you very much!
Great to hear! Clear skies!
THANKYOU...
Great video!! very useful
Thanks 😊
I have watched a lot of YT tuts, like 12 years worth shit I have an AE tut from like over 10 years ago on my channel. This was one of the best tuts I have seen in a long time... Thank you and keep it up!
Wow thanks Alexander! It means a lot 😊 I certainly will keep it up so stay tuned!
yep - I'll second that - have watched loads of vids and got very little from them previously but this has been great.
I already had a lot of the tools but no real instruction on practical use - I had been using a celestron GoTo scope (AstroFi 130) but wasn't getting what I wanted.
From just this vid (and the previous Sky-Watcher Star Adventurer setup tutorial), I now know what I'm looking for, how to find it and how to set up a mount correctly. Ten mins after watching this I've now ordered a nice ball-head tripod and also the Sky-Watcher Adventurer Pro kit (I'm in the UK, sorry Kamil)
Keep it up, these are brilliant and I'll be back for more
Many thanks TECHIE! This is one of the nicest comments I got for a long time. I appreciate you! 😊 And yeah, seems like I really need to set up those „genius links” to support other Amazon stores, not just the american one - like amazon.co.uk etc. - thanks for pushing me to do it!
Ive got a cannon 90d with the live view function which displays what its pointing at which will negate the step off taking test shots to see what its looking at I think, awesome video thanks so much cant wait to get my tracker (ordered and on the way) and get to taking exposures
Fabulous. Big help!
Thanks!
Really nice and helpful set of videos. I was thinking on buying a GoTo mount such as the EQM35, but I think the Star Adventurer is more suitable for beginners like me, because you MUST learn to locate the objects manually, so at the end you can really tell that you know and understand the night sky.
I went out with my rig the other night and immediately came back in because I had no idea what I was doing. You explain everything so well!! Ready to try again tonight!
Awesome, good luck! Let me know how it went 😃
New user with the star adventurer here. Your videos have been really helpful and clearly explained. Thank you.
I’m glad you like them 😊 thanks for the comment!
Thank you for such a thorough presentation on the Star Adventurer. I am trying mine for the first time tomorrow. You have been most helpful!!!
Awesome! Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or doubts. Good luck and clear skies!
Did it work?
Every other video I've found on RUclips goes into great detail on setup and polar alignment, but none of them went into how to adjust to the target. In everything I read I somehow missed that there was a second clutch so was completely lost.Thank you so much Kamil!!
Glad I could help 😊
The problem is, once you spend all that time to frame your shot, the polar alignment is usually off and now you have to reset that as well, then after you reset that, your framing will likely be off again, and it is a back and forth battle until you get both just right. I was out last night to try this for the first time, and I will tell you, it is an exercise in frustration, this definitely takes patience and practice. No matter how much time I took to set the polar alignment, I just kept getting star trails and blurry images! Don't expect to get any descent shots when you first start using this setup! This is NOT Easy folks, but I am up to the challenge!
True that!
@@kamilkp is there a video that covers this problem and advice on how to overcome it? What I'm confused about is by the time you have done everything in this video then the polar alignment is off. I would have thought switching on the tracker should be the first thing you do. If it takes you 5 mins to set all this up and polar alignment is off can you re-align with the equipment in place or do you have to take the brackets off and re do the alignment. I do appreciate that once you have done this a million time it's probably very quick to get up and running. I just feel it's a all a bit daunting for beginners having to remember everything and then once you have done it all then alignment is all off. As someone who hasn't yet received my equipment this is the most confusing thing for me to understand right now. I am getting a guide scope - will this make it easier?
Indeed, astrophotography requires a fair bit of patience and persistence /practice as you say, especially for the beginner.
Thanks! I was just wandering how to point my camera/telescope to where I wanted using that setup. Greetings from Mexico!
Glad it helped. Clear skies!
Thanks for sharing your experience! These videos willbe helpful as soon as I get a star adventurer! Can't wait anymore
Awesome! If you have any problems setting it up once it arrives, don’t hesitate to reach out 😉
@@kamilkp thank you, appreciated it! Hopefully I'll not have a lot of problem simce I watched your videos. For the rest I spent at least 5 nights trying to capture DSO with only a tripod, just to practice finding objects. We'll se!:)
Cool! Good luck then!
Clear and concise explanation, thank you so much Kamil. As someone who has recently bought Star Adventurer 2i Pro, your video is invaluable. Also thanks for telescopius, what a great tool to use. Liked and subscribed
Thanks! Glad I could help 😀
Kamel, an excellent tutorial,
Kamil, Sorry for misspelling your name. I actually did spell it correctly but the autocorrect changed it!
I have to agree with several of commentators below...your videos are most educational what I have seen so far on RUclips! Keep on with same manus (Simplicity and Learning to Kids method) and you will be "The Star" him self on RUclips. If you have any comment on Star Adventurer with Skywatcher Evostar ED72 Pro so please, give us your thougts...
Thank you Pekka that means a lot, I really appreciate that 😊 I don’t have any experience with the Evostar ED72 but from what I’ve seen the Star Adventurer should have no problem handling that telescope if you mount it on the declination bracket. Good luck!
Your videos have been excellent and I have been viewing them multiple times. I do have two questions. First are you aware of anyone who makes lens tripod mounting rings for lenses that do not come with them originally? Secondly, have you considered using PS Align Pro mounted to the camera's hot shoe for alignment to a DSO? It does have a feature for what it calls jumping to a DSO. I don't have my tracker yet, but I will probably try that out. If you think it might be a good idea, it would be nice to see a video on it.
Kamil, I just found your channel, I am glad I did as I will be getting a star tracker for Xmas😊. Do I have to worry about meridian flips as I do with regular goto mount? Thanks and awesome channel👍🤝
You are an amazing teacher. Your explanations are both thorough and clear.
I took my first star adventurer tracked images last week using 14mm and 50mm lens. The stars were tack sharp on 171 second exposures. Because I didn't take multiple images, there was more noise than I wanted. How many tracked images do you typically take to reduce the noise significantly? Thank you for this video. I look forward to taking some deep sky images. As of now, my longest lens is 135mm. Maybe I can find something interesting without a telescope or longer lens. Thanks to you, I can find any location in the sky without a ballhead. I am grateful.
Thanks John, that comment made my day 😊. About the thing you asked - well it depends. For Milly Way shots I usually take 9-16 images (signal to noise ratio increases with a square root of the number of exposures - I have a video about it too); and for deep sky astro I shoot as much as I can haha which is at least 50 (you are limited by the length of dark night - between astronomical twilights)
Im a novice at this and your videos are by far the BEST and I use them as a reference all the time. One question, the focusing on live view for dark skies is almost an impossibility as the stars dont really show up on the screen (shooting with a Nikon D850 unmoved). Any tips would be super welcome!
dzień dobry! I found your channel whilst trying to do some troubleshooting for my star adventurer. Since I have watched several of your videos: very clear concise and easy to follow… Much appreciated. I am doing something that you don’t recommend though: I’ve got a ball head mounted on my dovetail bar. With that I’ll either attach my cropped sensor or full frame DSLR and a relatively lightweight Askar 135 or 180 telescope lens. With heavier lenses for instance the one you were using in one of your videos this would probably be problematic but both ASKAR telescope lenses are quite lightweight. Thoughts? Dziękuję!
When I place my tripod on grass, I hang a 10lb weight off the center post with a strap. Press the tripod head downward and then let it sit for another 1/2 hr to settle in. That way when I am polar aligned and make some small adjustments the polar alignment doesn't get messed up.
Just watched this vid again. I had asked a question about the stiffness of the declination bracket . It looks like yours is quite stiff too. (12:49) I have my answer. Thanks for the great content, Kamil.
Nicely done. So do you need to re-balance the camera once you reverse it to shoot southerly direction after adjusting your lens ring?
You can also use Telescopius to calculate the FOV of your equipment (no need for another website). It is quite convenient, because you can save your equipment (lenses, eyespieces, etc) so that you dont have to input all the info again and again. It also has a scope simulator, so that you can see your target as you would see it through your actual equipment, therefore you can try different configurations until you find the one that best fits your needs. And all from home, before going out to the field :-)
Kamil, you've just answered all of my questions that I've had about finding and properly framing targets. :) Thank you very much aaand you have a new subscriber. :)
Pozdravujem zo Slovenska. Matej
Thanks! I’m glad you found it helpful 😊
Great video. I have the Star Adventurer and use it with my Red Cat 51 and my Canon EOS Ra. I get excellent photos. What a wonderful hobby.
Yeah right? 😊 how do you like the RedCat, would you recommend it? Is it better than just a telephoto lens?
Kamil Pekala The Red cat has a flat field unlike lenses so stars are round even at the edges and colors are balanced with no fringing or purple colors around stars. And it is cheaper than the better telephoto lenses so it is a good buy. The also make it in white and gray. The white one is the white cat and the gray one is the space cat. These scopes are so hot the is up to a 3 month wait if you order one.
Oh wow, yeah I’ve seen A LOT of people using and talking about them. I was wondering what all the fuss is about. Too bad it’s only 250mm though, I’m shooting on a full frame camera so that’s pretty wide for DSO :/
Kamil Pekala My EOS Ra is full frame and it works fine.
I’ll consider buying one. Thanks for the input!
I have been trying to get more info on the know-how of operating skywatcher tracker, this video and other related videos have been incredibly useful. Admittedly, I have seen many videos but your short but precise videos answered my questions. My only request is, please talk slowly :-)
This is how I normally talk and the videos are already 20 min long haha. You can try slowing the playback down to 75% speed
My Adventurer Pro 2i is collecting dust until I get my diagonal to use for polar alignment. Can't work with the polar scope through that eyepiece. I went back to a ball head and now have different problems. 400mm Sony lens A7RIII 1 sec exposure f6.3 ISO 3200. Use a Hoodman on the Live View when focusing. Am getting egg shaped or short trails on the stars. This for all individual 120 shots of the Orion Nebula. Am going to try shorter focal lengths and see if that helps. I've shot star trails and the milky way with the Sony and don't have problems.
Mam podobny setup oprocz aparatu ale wydaje mi sie ze Twoje wskazowki bardzo mi pomoga nastepnej bezchmurnej nocy :) Dzieki! Szkoda ze nie udostepniles pare dni temu bo wlasnie robilem zdjecia Deneb i zadnej mglawicy nie udalo mi sie niestety uchwycic :P Pozdrawiam! ;)
Zdarza się tak niestety. Warto czasem po ustawieniu wszystkiego zrobić jedną klatkę, zgrać na komputer czy telefon, zaimportować do Lightrooma i dać dehaze na 100 i kontrast na 100 i zobaczyć czy „coś tam jest”. Bo tak to kiepsko zbierać materiał przez 2 godziny albo dłużej, żeby potem się okazało, że było źle wykadrowane 😟
Powodzenia następnym razem!
HI - Great set off videos , really are. Just starting off - have a Sky Adventurer/ 5Dmk4 , is there a clip on light pollution filter I can use for this camera?
I'm glad you like them 😊 I use the CLS filter from Astronomik. They do have a version for full frame DSLRs, but it appears the 5D mk 4 is not supported 🙁. You can check out the details here: www.astronomik.com/en/clip-filter-fur-canon-vollformat.html I know that "Optolong" also makes good filters - check out what they have to offer - but I don't have any personal experience with them.
Hi, can you tell me wich trypod you are using for? Thanks
Excellent video, I have recently got the star adventurer and waiting for dark nights to try it out. Plus I already own this lens so excited to try that too. I live in a class 4/5 bortle sky, do you use filters at all? Plus it would be great to see a resulting shot of this sort of set up. Thanks for you invaluable info and help.
Thanks, I’m glad you liked it! I live in Bortle 6 so I do use a light pollution filter indeed. I use this one ruclips.net/video/80Upp3tk0rs/видео.html and I also have a few more videos about it so check them out. I’ll show some results in an editing tutorial but for that I’m also waiting for dark nights (mid July)
Kamil Pekala thanks for taking the time to reply, I will await more videos with interest.
The Night Sky app is very good for finding objects in the sky. When you open the app, you just point your phone in the sky and it uses your phone’s motion and shows you what you’re looking at. The app can also use your camera so you can literally see where it is in the sky
Thank you so much for these videos. You are very good at explaining how it all works, and fits together. Liked and subbed :)
However I'm getting very confused about something, that you might be able to clear up. So at 13:40 you are talking about how you can point the camera lens in any direction by twisting the dovetail where the L-bracket is fastened and the place where the camera is fastened.
What confuses me is how the tracking still works. If the whole mount is pointed at Polaris and rotating, wouldn't pointing the camera into the other direction break the tracking? Maybe it's just hard to make sense of when imagining it in my head.
Thanks Jules! Well to be honest I was confused about the exact same thing when I was starting out with equatorial mounts for astrophotography. There are are a few things that come into play here but it boils down to the fact that every spot in the sky „seems” to move in a circle around celestial poles. So if the camera rotates in the opposite direction than any point would seem stationary with regards to the camera. I will actually be making a video about this - why do trackers like these even work - so good thing that you’ve subscribed 😉
I just discovered your channel and have been binge watching. Thanks for making great clear videos.I have one question and maybe you can provide some feedback. When camera is mounted and you want to do re-polar alignment (assuming something moved slightly), I know you can see through polar scope in the middle through Declination bracket. But since Sky Watcher doesn't have inbuilt light, how do you achieve it in field in the night? Are the rings visible without light in the dark?
Thanks! I’m glad to hear that 😊 and to answer your question - yes the rings inside the scope are visible without the illuminator. They are very dim and hard to see at first but if you look through the scope for a while your eyes would adapt and you’ll be able to see them faintly. Otherwise just hold the red illuminator with your hand close to the end of the scope and it will cast some light on it. It’s not the most convenient thing to do but it’s doable!
@@kamilkp Thanks for the prompt reply. Appreciate it.
@@kamilkp The SA ships with a small plastic adapter that mounts in the slot in Dec bracket and receives the illuminator. Not great solution but beats the handheld.
В стоке это работает очень ограничено, я свой экземпляр доводил до ума лет 5. В результате сделан экваториальный клин, установлена ременная передача. Сейчас он выдает по 500 сек одиночные кадры на 500 мм и весе оборудования 3,8 кг In the stock it works very limited, I brought my copy to mind about 5 years. As a result, an equatorial wedge was made, a belt drive was installed. Now it produces single frames for 500 seconds at 500 mm and equipment weight 3.8 kg
Very informative informative and helpful Video, well done, I just subscribed to your channel... 🙂 Kamil do you have practical experiences on using smaller telescopes (+ Camera) with the Star Adventurer? Is it possible to mount more than 4 kg‘s of Equipment and still achieve good results?
I don’t have personal experience with that but it’s generally not recommended. However if you balance it perfectly - it should track accurately
Man .. I love your channel.. I was finally able to setup my skywatcher and your tutorials help immensely. One quick question, for heavier equipment , how do I polar align after I frame the shot ?
There is a hole in the dovetail. You can still use the polar scope when it is attached
@@kamilkp Hey Kamil, thanks for responding to my question , I appreciate it!! And apologize for asking another question, after framing the shot the equatorial wedge is no longer at 0 and 6 position. How do I place the polaris .. on the manual it talks about a third party app.. do you have any recommendations?
I have a video just about that: ruclips.net/video/OeqTTgDei7I/видео.html
Great video! I'm considering purchasing one of these, but before I do - i'm curious to know if I will be able to use my canon 5D mark iv with 100-400mm ii Lens ( @400mm)?
Yes, absolutely! You can even use a small telescope on it. Check the weight limit to be sure, but in terms of balancing you will totally be able to
@@kamilkp brilliant, thanks for the fast reply.
A great video. I have a "Beginner" question. Once we establish polar alignment, the tracker should be kept running correct so it maintains alignment? For example, if I shoot the Milky Way and then decide to shoot something else and need to move the camera to the other object, the tracker remains on while I loosen the clutches for the camera mount and Dec bracket?
It doesn’t have to be ON. It only has to be ON when you want to maintain framing for instance when you are framing up your shot before setting up the intervalometer it should already be ON so that your object doesn’t slip away out of frame. But when the tracker is aligned it will keep being aligned even if it’s off and Polaris moves around the polar clock inside the reticle. Is that clear enough? Let me know!
@@kamilkp It is. Thank you very much.
Should you have the tracker in the off position when you release both clutches to get camera pointed at object your trying to view? thanks
You can have it either way but if you have it off then once you frame your target it will immediatelly start to slip off your field of view. Better to work with a turned on tracker at this point
Thank you very much for providing detail with the Star Adventurer. I just got mine yesterday and set it up today...during the daytime. I was having trouble with using a ballhead and this video explained to me I don't need it! Much simpler to set up and use too. I'll try tomorrow in getting a deep sky object...it's winter so I'll probably go for Orion. Again, thanks. I do have one question though. The "Polar Alignment Scale" is backwards on the actual Star Adventurer. Could you go into detail on how to use it with the backwards appearance?
What do you mean that it’s backwards? Can you send a photo or something?
@@kamilkp Thanks for getting back to me. When looking through the scope everything that is suppose to be on the right is actually on the left and is backward as if looking at writing reflected on a mirror. The same is true for the left being on the right. The lettering and numbers are backwards as if viewing on a mirror too. It's as if you're looking at an image on the ground glass on a large format camera only it's not upside down. Sorry, I'm unable to send a picture.
Yes the image in the polar scope is flipped but it’s perfectly normal. A camera lens also flips the image and then what is read by the sensor is flipped back in firmware.
@@kamilkp OK. I feel really stupid. What I thought was backward was actually upside down. i.e. The number 3 was on the left side and appeared backward and actually it was on the left side and upside down. Therefore, when I rotated the eye piece of the polar scope to where the number 3 was on the right side and the number 9 was on the left side everything appeared as it should. So, all I had to do was rotate the polar scope eyepiece! Duh! I'm sorry about all this. Thanks for your concern.
Wonderful video Kamil, I just got my SA and anxious to use it this weekend in the Calif Sierras. I know using the wide angle plate and a ball head I can point my camera south while the tracker is polar aligned, but is it possible to do the same thing with DSO that is south in the south? Basically can you shoot an object that is 180 degrees behind the SA?.
Absolutely yes! Just rotate the declination axis 180 degrees and then adjust elevation by rotating the right ascention axis. Try it out and you’ll figure it out in no time!
@@kamilkp Thanks I guess it's just something one has to get their hands on and do it. Just looking it's not intuitively obvious and like I said I'm anxious to get and try it.
Yeah it’s definitely counter-intuitive at first so you just have to try it!
Hey Kamil - I to test my SA, I used it for a time lapse of the Moon and a mountian landscape. Ththge results were so so but that was user error on my part, still it was leaning experience. Thanks again for the help and the videos...regards DanC
Hi Kamil, thanks for the really informative videos! I've got one potentially silly question. When you've framed up your DSO with the camera and are ready to shoot, should the main clutch be fully tightened, slightly loose or completely loose? I would've thought if it was fully tight then the motor wouldn't be able to turn the setup, but if it's completely loose then wouldn't wind/slight imbalances in the setup cause it all to drift??
Thanks! It needs to be fully tightened - the clutch is used to sort of detach it from the motor. It’s like a clutch in your car, if you press the pedal then the wheels can rotate freely independent of the motor, and when you let it go, then the motor can still turn them 😉
@@kamilkp Aaah I see! That totally makes sense. Cheers for the speedy reply. Look forward to seeing more videos from you in the future!
I’m on it!
Brilliant tutorials . Please can I ask a question. I've been using my star adventurer for a little while now but with shorter focal lengths to try and ensure I'm polar aligning correctly, I'm now wanting to to start using my larger lens with the dovetail bracket. I didn't realise you could use the arrow buttons to fine tune your composition when using a big lens.. but would using them, not change your polar alignment if they are moving the mount ? Or would you polar align afterwards? But then the reticle would not be the right way up to be able to polar align. sorry im a little confused. Thanks
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@@kamilkp thats brilliant thank you so much and thanks for such a speedy reply 👍
You’re welcome!
I know this vid is old, but i have a dumb question😅
So, i do a PA and turn on the tracker? Or first i do the teste shots, balance everything, etc.. and then turn on the tracker? Im asking this cause, testing shots, frame, etc.. take like 2 or 4min. In this 2 or 4 min dont the polaris move? Thanks
I read that once you find a star near a deep sky object, you can look up the location in Stellarium and also look up the deep sky object location, do the math and move the ascension that many minutes on the polar scope dial, then move the declination fine tune the calculated degrees and you should be on the desired object. Does this work? (ie. star =1 hour 55 minutes, object = 2 hours 35 minutes so move so dial on polar scope moves 40 minutes clockwise; 63 degrees verses 61 degrees, so move fine tune knob to turn camera 2 degrees to the left.)
Hmm maybe with some trackers it might work for I have never done that and I the Star Adventurer doesn’t have any angular scalr on the RA or Dec axes. You’d have to eyeball it and I don’t think it would be precise enough. Cool insight though, thanks!
Posting here because my question is related to the Star Adventurer - maybe you covered this somewhere else. I'm thinking about mounting the star tracker aligned with the horizon (not Polaris) and pointing the camera toward the stars, with some landscape visible, then doing a long series of photos (for a time lapse). I think this will create an image where the stars remain centered (left/right) in the frame, but move up or down (depending on whether I'm aiming to the east or west) as time passes. The landscape will "move" right to left across the bottom of the images. Will the movement of the star tracker be close enough to the angular rotational speed of the earth so that I don't get star trails, even when it's not polar aligned? Thanks for any insights. I realize this is an empirical question - I suppose I'll try it unless you suggest that my reasoning is way off.
Honestly I don’t see it 😅 the axes of rotation would be off and I don’t think you can end up with a straight motion of the sky in the frame. But let me know if you try it and it works. I’m skeptical but not 100% sure about it
What happens if your final target aim falls in between the time graduation circle where there are not any time numbers markings to enter the time into the ps align pro app?
After you adjust your camera to pinpoint on the constellation you want, wouldn’t you have to check/adjust your balance again?
Actually yes. The balance might get off doing that but only a little bit really - but yeah it’s a good idea to check the balance. In fact this is one of 4 things I forgot to mention in the video and I’ll wrap them up and talk about them in the next one next week. Stay tuned 😊
I have the same rig you have with a Sony a7r3 and Sony 100-400 gm. I would like to know what aperture are you using to shoot deep sky objects. This will be my first time shooting deep sky. Thank you.
I just use as wide as I can go which is f/5.6 at 300mm
@@kamilkp Thank you. I recently came across your videos and love them. Easy to follow and not too technical. You are doing a great job.
what do you think about a combination of EOS6D and 70-200 F/2.8 mark II? Would it be nice for DSO photography with an addition of Skywatcher Star Adventurer Pro?
Absolutely! The 200mm on a full frame would require some cropping for targets like Andromeda but for Orion now in the fall/winter it should be awesome. I envy you the ability to shoot at f/2.8 !
@@kamilkp cool, I'll give it a go then.
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HOLY SHIT!!! Rotating the camera inside the ringmount is nothing short of GENIUS! I cant believe ive never done that before. That just blew my mind
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Hi Kamil! New subscriber here! Do you think this set up can take a skywatcher 72 ed and a DLSR?
It can but you need to balance it very well
@@kamilkp Thank you so much for the reply I am following your work very closely would you rather Choose an AZGTI over the Skywatcher if you had a set up like mine? Skywatcher 72 ed plus sony crop sensor.
I don’t have any experience with the AZ GTI but I think the Star Adventurer is a better choice here.
Oh my god, you’re brilliant. I’m sitting here wondering how I’m supposed to dial in my settings with my camera upside down and then you remind us of the lens ring. Amazing video. My SkyWatcher just shipped. Can’t wait!
Meyer Adventures cool! Good luck and clear skies then 😁
Please explain what is the 'SNAP' hole, the autoguider port, and USB port. I'm guessing the USB port is for an external battery or connect to a laptop? Can you show all these things to more thoroughly cover all the features? Also some instructions say you have to input your local time? Thank you.
Most of this stuff is written in the manual. The point of my videos is not to be a 100% video coverage of the manual but rather to point out some practical tips and things that were left out from the manual. SNAP is to connect a shutter release cable, USB to optionally provide power from a powerbank and autoguider - to connect an autoguider (camera and software co correct for any tracking imperfections)
Should we use intervalometer or through StarAdvanture Shutter ? What's the difference? Which you recommendation?
I’m using an external intervalometer plugged straight into the camera. I don’t think there is any difference but honestly I never tried doing it through the tracker.
Even better that official video. Sky watcher should pay you.
I wouldn’t mind that haha 😄 thanks Wing!
A question, when balancing the camera and counter weight, it always wants to be horizontal, no matter what I do, is this normal?
how about teaching us about calibration frames
So, once you rotate the main clutch, you can no longer check your polar alignment?
You can but it’s a little tricky. Check out this video: ruclips.net/video/OeqTTgDei7I/видео.html
Hi, does declination need to be balanced too ?
Ideally yes but it's not that important because there is no motor attached to it. The motor only rotates in the right ascension
Not sure if you see comments on videos this old, but I m hoping you can answer my question. Do yoy have, or know of a comprehensive video tutorial on Stelarium?
Can't thank you enough!
I do see comments from old videos but I don’t think I can help you here. I just figured out how to use it mostly myself
@@kamilkp
We'll figure it out then. Keep the idea in mind for the future. You already know mothan me, and probably a lot of others.
Maybe a silly question but after you polar align and then it takes you 10 min to get the camera set up, will the polar alignment not be out of sync?
Not if I leave the tracker running while I set up everything else
Further to my question, should the clutch be completely disengaged or partially dragging? If fully free-wheeling physics surely dictate that it will find its balance when horizontal or am i mad?
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