Thanks for this clear, concise explanation. The "old car" argument example is very helpful. I've been asked in past studies to apply this model to ethical arguments. It'd be great to see the model applied to a more abstract claim.
I saw that Mikayla Ford didn't answer, so I thought I would share what we're using it for in my AP English class. My teacher showed it to the class to guide us in writing a synthesis essay/research paper. I found it to be very helpful and clear :)
I feel that the Toulmin Model is worthy of consideration and identifying one method of building theory in one direction to argumentation I do like a warrant to open up the argument giving some balance in expressing critical thinking
This has helped me understand the handout my teacher gave me to study for my Teaching English midterm. What was the last work you used to describe using the model to develop the argument, but not necessarily use it as your paper. It sounded like you said heristic... but I didn't recognize that word. Thanks again for putting this together!
I think I understand it now. If you want help on it, PM me. Basically, her claim is that kids feel almost pressured to cheat. She gives grounds on ethos, pathos, and logos, and she warrants her claim. (I'll explain it in a PM if you'd like)
okey, I think I can understand a little more. Thanks a lot. I am now studying composition with the book named "Writing arguments, a rhetoric with readings", nineth edition of John D.Ramage, John C.Bean and June Johnson. I will have a presentation about Toulmin and my part is Toulmin's schema. I am a Vietnamese. My English can help me understand one more part from your slides but those are not on my book. I think it is not enough in my book when I compare them with your teaching. Thanks.
This video is great up until the car example. Um, this is kind of the opposite of what we hope our students will do. "Older care pollute more..." That's not evidence! That's a claim!!! Evidence would something like, "A 2009 study of the 10 most popular cars in the US found that cars built before 1990 emit more... " Evidence has to have weight behind it or it's just an unfounded statement, yet another claim that requires evidence to support it. What a terrible example!
I agree that in retrospect it would have been a better visual presentation in the example to add some actual backing evidence on its own line under the "older cars pollute more and are less safe than newer cars," I'm wondering if you actually listened closely to the audio during this section because I clearly say that there would need to be support using facts and evidence in order "to make" the argument hold up. The visual could have been better and more complete--thanks for pointing that out, and if I had completely disregarded the necessity of evidence in the presentation, I would say that you would be spot on in your "terrible example!" claim--but I didn't. I definitely appreciate that it could have been more explicit in showing the need for the researched support.
Pov: You’re here for your English 102 class😤
Actually Crim 3010
It's only when I understand something that I can explain it. Great video David.
This video made my life so much easier. Thank you David.
The best video I have seen on this topic.
Thank you for posting. You made it very straight forward.
This is probably (notice my qualifier, lol) the best video I've watched on the topic.
Thanks for this clear, concise explanation. The "old car" argument example is very helpful. I've been asked in past studies to apply this model to ethical arguments. It'd be great to see the model applied to a more abstract claim.
I saw that Mikayla Ford didn't answer, so I thought I would share what we're using it for in my AP English class. My teacher showed it to the class to guide us in writing a synthesis essay/research paper. I found it to be very helpful and clear :)
This video saved my life! Thanks David :)
Thank you sooo much! You helped me a ton in my AP English class!
Thanks for this video, it really helped!
I feel that the Toulmin Model is worthy of consideration and identifying one method of building theory in one direction to argumentation I do like a warrant to open up the argument giving some balance in expressing critical thinking
thank you so much, David.
Thank you nicely laid out example. :)
This has helped me understand the handout my teacher gave me to study for my Teaching English midterm. What was the last work you used to describe using the model to develop the argument, but not necessarily use it as your paper. It sounded like you said heristic... but I didn't recognize that word. Thanks again for putting this together!
Very useful! Thanks!
I'm still lost analyzing "Too Much Pressure" for my AP class...
Helped in English Comp II
Thank you.
@ Mikayla Ford: I'm glad you found the video helpful. What kind of assignment/s were you using it for?
The world will never know...
I think I understand it now. If you want help on it, PM me. Basically, her claim is that kids feel almost pressured to cheat. She gives grounds on ethos, pathos, and logos, and she warrants her claim. (I'll explain it in a PM if you'd like)
okey, I think I can understand a little more. Thanks a lot. I am now studying composition with the book named "Writing arguments, a rhetoric with readings", nineth edition of John D.Ramage, John C.Bean and June Johnson. I will have a presentation about Toulmin and my part is Toulmin's schema. I am a Vietnamese. My English can help me understand one more part from your slides but those are not on my book. I think it is not enough in my book when I compare them with your teaching. Thanks.
What up class!
it is heuristic. and it means a process that builds upon itself..evolving would be a good synonym.
Helped with English 1301!
Great
OMG same here :((
0:39
lol @ 3:55
last word* (sorry)
This video is great up until the car example. Um, this is kind of the opposite of what we hope our students will do. "Older care pollute more..." That's not evidence! That's a claim!!! Evidence would something like, "A 2009 study of the 10 most popular cars in the US found that cars built before 1990 emit more... " Evidence has to have weight behind it or it's just an unfounded statement, yet another claim that requires evidence to support it. What a terrible example!
I agree that in retrospect it would have been a better visual presentation in the example to add some actual backing evidence on its own line under the "older cars pollute more and are less safe than newer cars," I'm wondering if you actually listened closely to the audio during this section because I clearly say that there would need to be support using facts and evidence in order "to make" the argument hold up. The visual could have been better and more complete--thanks for pointing that out, and if I had completely disregarded the necessity of evidence in the presentation, I would say that you would be spot on in your "terrible example!" claim--but I didn't. I definitely appreciate that it could have been more explicit in showing the need for the researched support.
"older cars pollute more" is shortened from "a study shows that older cars pollute more" because it is an outline, not a finished essay
Two people can't use the Toulmin model.