For the last question: for sure I would rather carry on the worst team, teams will see my individual skill and recognize that and then I’d get picked up in a different year on a really good team. Whereas if I’m on the best team just getting carried, my spot isn’t secure and I could just be replaced by an upgrade at any time.
When riot did the roadmap, they said they wanted sett to be a straightforward juggernaut like darius. They share the same advantage: They are the best at turning fights around.
@@simonnilsson8375 he can with his q healing. And also Darius only has to stack his bleed on 1 target, then he can just transfer those stacks on the next target and ult and repeat on the next target. Darius can definatelly turn fights around either 1v1, 1v2 or in a 5v5
I'm just waiting for a team fight with Aphelios where casters will go "Here comes Aphelios 1v5, dont know what happened but he just cleaned the scene and he can take baron by himself now"
It's almost like that doesn't happen because he's actually not that strong. It's almost like meta adcs still have very little agency and rely on their teams to perform well at all.
@@higglyjuff yeah and a nuke requires a shitload of external stuff and procedures to actually detonate but let's be honest, they are actually not that strong
To the last slide: the one who got carried is probably getting replaced after the split, while the one who is carrying the worst team might becomes the one you replaces him. Though for the carrier i think its that actually ^^
For the last slide I’d say the Carry one because then next split you’ll get picked up by a better team, the Carried one would be the first to get swapped out
No disrespeck to Kobe and I hope he gets well soon, but this is the best episode of “This or That” that I’ve seen. These two guys explaining their logic was enjoyable. CF: “what happens to them if I pick “this” and you pick “that”?” Jatt: “This screen breaks!” 😂😂 Me: reality is undone, abandon all hope.
As a Skarner main I disagree with Captain Flowers on the Air drake rift. There's nothing more satisfying that having Air drake soul and grabbing an enemy and yeeting them super fast back to your team.
I'd rather be a huge carry on the worst team. It would make me stand out SO much, and would get me better offers to get on an insane, good team. Getying carried on a great team will get you replaced for domestic/world success. Look at Xmithie. Now look at Froggen. One got shoved onto an actually bad team. The other was the only saving grace of GG and is now competing at the top alongside GOOD talent. Probably a better option than froggen, but xmithie is a case study on scapegoats
If you carry on a bad team you'll eventually get picked up by a good team, if you're just getting carried on a good team you'll eventually get dropped.
An alternate way to think about the last slide: If you’re always carrying on the worst team, at the end of a season you might get picked up by a better team and become the new BEST team. Conversely, if you’re always getting carried on the best team they might see you as a potential place for improvement and you could end up getting traded and become the new WORST team.
@@Beetrice Visually sensitive to a very specific color hue? What about the millions of other colors and effects going on your screen at any moment? Sounds like bullshit to me.
Getting carried on a good team gets you replaced at the end of the year, then you're just a bad player on a bad team. Being the best player on a bad team gets you signed by a good team and then you're just a good player on a good team
He technically says that's not that. Which in the context of the sentence was "that is the best drake for you". He did not call the slide that. So he didnt mess up in the way you're referring to
Nobody:
Jatt: statistically people die occasionally
people die if they are killed
he was making a joke, so yes. thats the point lol.
@@reesemccoy2581 r/whoosh
@@RyuKatolikeseaweed did you mean to woosh the original comment? bc I'm pretty sure I got it
@@reesemccoy2581No he's swooshing you and so will I. r/whoosh.
Jatt: Makes and argument
Flowers: "I agree, but I'm gonna take the complete opposite approach"
Hard agree, seems like he's disagreeing just for the sake of doing something different
Flowers is there only to argue the other side
Otherwise the vid will end in 3 mins, they need to keep talking so yea they gotta disagree most often
Flowers was definitely capping on some of these slides.
They picked the same thing thats why he said "I agree". Are you all braindead?
OMG!! *Is that Jatt from The Josh Leesman Experience?*
Think that's jatt that was from the balance team
Nah, it's definitely Jatt from Dignitas
THEE JLXP ?!
9:10
“They are always performing inverse to the expectations”
Counter-logically?
Aaaaaaaaay
@@RaviVemula2 aaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy
wow such great comment
You will always remember this day as the day you ALMOST caught Cap n Jatt sparrow.
Flowers: "This is pretty pog"
Jatt: "You think this would be pogger?!"
Flowers: "I would say Karma is more poggers..."
Oh English.
I like these longer This or That episodes!
I like those longer This or That episodes!
Broxah's visa was approved btw
Hell yeah gamer thanks for the info
Ty
Pog
Hallelujah
Poggers let's go mr broxah
For the last question: for sure I would rather carry on the worst team, teams will see my individual skill and recognize that and then I’d get picked up in a different year on a really good team. Whereas if I’m on the best team just getting carried, my spot isn’t secure and I could just be replaced by an upgrade at any time.
That was my logic too. For the long term it will be worth it.
Now that Zven is out of the Talent Suppression Machine he is popping off.
Lol
But kobbe is suffering now
Now that Smoothie is out of the Talent Suppression Machine he is absolutely terrible
@@machineyo_ it suppressess everything... even the bad ones
@@budaigergely7746 Kobbe is playing very well?
@@KingFluffaluff that might be so, but the team isnt
"... Kobe is feeling under the weather this week." its fine man, we already know :(
Wdym
@@safire9093 Kobe Bryant
Hopefully he gets over the hump.
F
@@safire9093 corona maybe?
When riot did the roadmap, they said they wanted sett to be a straightforward juggernaut like darius. They share the same advantage: They are the best at turning fights around.
If A darius Is losing a fight to begin with, He ain’t gonna turn it around,
@@simonnilsson8375 he can with his q healing. And also Darius only has to stack his bleed on 1 target, then he can just transfer those stacks on the next target and ult and repeat on the next target. Darius can definatelly turn fights around either 1v1, 1v2 or in a 5v5
@@simonnilsson8375 that is so false
Kitteh Cat Bruhhhh, have you gone against a Darius?
Jatt: i choose this
Flowers: I agree but i dont
Zven looks like he sold his soul to win this spring split lol
5:34 You summoned him!! He got his Visa approved just today!
I'm just waiting for a team fight with Aphelios where casters will go
"Here comes Aphelios 1v5, dont know what happened but he just cleaned the scene and he can take baron by himself now"
It's almost like that doesn't happen because he's actually not that strong. It's almost like meta adcs still have very little agency and rely on their teams to perform well at all.
higglyjuff hes absolutely fucking broken tier
After seeing ashe 1v 9 in lck, idk if i would be impress by aphelios
luke g this guy is next level delusional
@@higglyjuff yeah and a nuke requires a shitload of external stuff and procedures to actually detonate but let's be honest, they are actually not that strong
Capn Flowers dropoin' the "U cant C me" on the Aphelios Senna slide
Broxah's VISA is approved! Lets gooooooooo Liquid
Glen Lee will he play the next matches?
@@danielwiele955 nah, i think he will be playing in week 4 most likely.
source?
@@skysummer5616 Twitter
B R OMEGALUL X A H KEKW
To the last slide:
the one who got carried is probably getting replaced after the split, while the one who is carrying the worst team might becomes the one you replaces him. Though for the carrier i think its that actually ^^
For the last slide I’d say the Carry one because then next split you’ll get picked up by a better team, the Carried one would be the first to get swapped out
Yeah I was thinking the same!
but next split you will be under preassure of expectation. But I agree with you
plus carried means you're more likely to get flamed by ppl since you'll be the biggest reason you lost at worlds
I'd rather get carried. Less pressure and if anything I can blame my carry.
Jatt: The screen will break
Me: lets go! I want to see that!
“Keep Calm
And
Get
Carried On”
Jatt + Flowers =
Broxahs visa was just approved
Linkingx2 actually?
@@joshgant3921 well lol esport wiki anounced that, so i guess yes
@@Linkingx2 Broxah confirmed it on his twitter
They should do a trio. I miss Jatt.. Like: This or That or it?
they have slides where its 3 things and its this that or the other thing not it
This, that or the other thing
Just something.. With 3 people.. We gotta get Jatt back into this..
This, That, or Jatt???
This was a very existential episode of this or that
Love Zven getting back to form :)
"Unkillable Danish King" what a difference switching to a new team makes!
CAP N JATT the new meta
Jensen, Bjergsen, Zven, Froggen, Kobbe, Svenskeren and now, Broxah. The Danish empire is growing!
Thank you Flowers for acknowledging EU > NA
4:03 This should have been AD Kennen vs Viktor Top.
Im handsome man :)
Anyone else notice that jatt is way more fun to watch recently?
Next time, can we get Cap + Jatt + Kobe and 3 slides please ? :)
No disrespeck to Kobe and I hope he gets well soon, but this is the best episode of “This or That” that I’ve seen. These two guys explaining their logic was enjoyable.
CF: “what happens to them if I pick “this” and you pick “that”?”
Jatt: “This screen breaks!”
😂😂
Me: reality is undone, abandon all hope.
15min this or that? Let's dive right in
As a Skarner main I disagree with Captain Flowers on the Air drake rift. There's nothing more satisfying that having Air drake soul and grabbing an enemy and yeeting them super fast back to your team.
TSM Jatt Pog
i don't watch LCS anymore, but I still love this or that
RIP KOBE
No one can keep up with flowers analysis
9:31 This screen breaks... I agree. When they put Stixxay on Kench- I left the team. They dont want to win. Total troll org. Bye bye.
g2 are 2-0 with soraka this season
I'd rather be a huge carry on the worst team. It would make me stand out SO much, and would get me better offers to get on an insane, good team.
Getying carried on a great team will get you replaced for domestic/world success.
Look at Xmithie.
Now look at Froggen.
One got shoved onto an actually bad team. The other was the only saving grace of GG and is now competing at the top alongside GOOD talent.
Probably a better option than froggen, but xmithie is a case study on scapegoats
Broxah visa approved 🎉
This or that with Captain Jatt
I really fancy a longer episode, but please, change the background song from time to time :)
No
-Carry on the worst team
-sign a contract for a very good team
-become the best team
*500IQ*
HE GOT HIS VISA GO TL!
08:35 : THAT SPOTTED
Will the next player to get player of the week also be danish?
There is a good chance. There is like 7 Danish players there now?
Eight
1:06 I've been gnomed
BROXAHS VISA GOT APPROVED LETS GOOOOOOO
2:30 This explanation is the exact reason Huni isn’t worth the money he’s paid. Froggen is putting Dig on his back like he did with Echo Fox and GG.
What happened to echo fox btw?
this or that music have that beep sound that makes me think there's a notif on my league -___-
If Zven Irl dies this week this would be the craziest episode ever
?
Why hasn’t broxah been in the Lcs?
Broxah's Visa got approved btw
imagine they dicuss about Hunger Games with lol pros and rewatch 0:39
Flowers be packing...more this episode
Must be Humanoid in the not sure it’s broxah slide
Graves or Lee sin?
Keep colm and get carry on.
Vise man 🙏
9 mins in i just now realize its jatt lmfao
Is that Jatt Kittenstomper from the most elite of GvG guilds in guild wars?
This or that with captain jatt
Broxahs Visa approved...get in there boy
Well, Zven had one death this week. Jensen went all in on Zven and got a kill with a one-man Orianna ult and lost the fight 1-4+ Dragon.
Er, wait. It was Froggen I think? Yeah.
press 9 for funny jatt
If you carry on a bad team you'll eventually get picked up by a good team, if you're just getting carried on a good team you'll eventually get dropped.
I hope Jatt take Kobe's place more often.
Would you rather be Kevin Love or Kevin Love on that last slide.
Broxah is coming.
But if you tell him that he has to remember to say the right thing it’s easy. You should have observed and pointed it out at the end.
what is actually going on with broxah?
problems with visa, but he's coming now
@@catlord69 thx
An alternate way to think about the last slide: If you’re always carrying on the worst team, at the end of a season you might get picked up by a better team and become the new BEST team. Conversely, if you’re always getting carried on the best team they might see you as a potential place for improvement and you could end up getting traded and become the new WORST team.
Therefore carrying on the worst team would be the better option if you have strong mental. LOL
rip kobe
rip kobe
this show could be so good if it's not only about LCS :)
Broxah is coming y'all!
Kobe got that Coronavirus
Lol ocean actually hurts my eyes :I
why tho ? its such a nice map and colors. and flowers...
@@catlord69 yeah I love the flowers! But the change of color hurts my eyes. I'm visually sensitive, my optometrist said.
@@Beetrice Oh i see. Didn't know you ment that it literally hurts
@@Beetrice Visually sensitive to a very specific color hue? What about the millions of other colors and effects going on your screen at any moment? Sounds like bullshit to me.
That baby photoshop makes me spit my water. 😂
Today i learned i have the wrong worse(i read the question as worst, so my answer was different lol)
Flowers look like Ivern
I legit just realized they film in front of a green screen and not in the actual studio. wow.
what made you realize?
CLG is Schroedinger's team
Dig academy to win LCS without being in it.
Getting carried on a good team gets you replaced at the end of the year, then you're just a bad player on a bad team.
Being the best player on a bad team gets you signed by a good team and then you're just a good player on a good team
still waiting for zven to int
I miss jatt
JATTTTT
4:37
funny that when it comes to talk about real pro teams they are talking about G2
What's so funny about something logical? G2 DOMINATES most of the teams they face.
"CLG is bad" ouch
Just being back Kobe and Jatt scrap Cap. BTW no disrespect to Cap
We want shjoks on here
That would be 😎 cool
1:40
Jatt fked up he said that to ocean. Just saying. 😂
He technically says that's not that. Which in the context of the sentence was "that is the best drake for you". He did not call the slide that. So he didnt mess up in the way you're referring to
Flowers just disagrees with everything Jatt says lmao