Regardie pretty much destroyed The Golden Dawn and tried to remake it into a system of psychotheraphy while eliminating it's Christian elements and original focus on astral travel to obtain teachings up on the tree of life. Regardie in cheering Crowley all but threw Waite, Yeats, and so many others in his remake of The Golden Dawn.
Joyce Koch is THAT what happened??? Do you know in which edition Regardie made changes?? Thank you! I’m just learning about Regardie via Brian Scott’s YT channel as a Neville Goddard student! TYIA! (All I’ve seen about A. Crowley was that he was a spy, member of The Golden Dawn & a Satanist! That then makes no sense to me!) Do you know more about this that you can tell me...or point me in the right direction? I would be very grateful! Blessings!
@@cynthiaennis3107 Sure. Regardie was Aleister Crowley's secretary when he was in his 20's and Crowley had bad feelings about being ousted from the GD and ended up creating his own Magickal order which was a distortion of the GD. When Regardie meet Crowley, Regardie was very unhappy with his Jewish faith and was looking for more and had explored various alternative forms of mysticism like Theosophy but was disappointed with them all and determined he had to find a true guru to receive one on one treatment. Crowley saw Regardie as a apt student and took him in. Crowley treated Regardie horribly but years later after Crowley had died Regardie realized how unique an experience he had been being near Crowley and had been brought over to his ideas with a fanatical hatred of Christianity. Regardie even began to think of Crowley's abusive treatment as a form of tough love which was pure fantasy on the part of Regardie. Of course, Regardie also realized that Crowley beyond being a genius was also a nut case as big as Mather's had been with the Golden Dawn and so many other in the Magickal world of adepts. Regardie then concluded that all Magickal systems inflate the ego and make people unstable. In addition, Regardie concluded Christianity was a great evil in the world so he formulated in his own head a new system that combined ideas from Crowley with elements of The Golden Dawn pruned of it's Christian elements with heavy doses of psychotherapy and body work and Hinduism which he thought could undo mental unbalances. He then took The Golden Dawn material he had and rebuilt it with his commentary and pitched it out as the material that a Golden Dawn student would have gotten in 1888 but is was far from the same material. Even the very meaning of the Rose Cross became devoid of the meaning of the rose as a symbol of Jesus and the whole symbolism was changed into a strange alchemy re-write.Regardie wiped out almost all of Waite's material and any other member of The Golden Dawn he did not like largely due to Crowley's influence as Crowley had known most of them firsthand and Regardie assumed that it was these people rather than Crowley who had issues and poor ideas. Regardie did most of this work in the 30's but became a celebrity in the 80's when a revival of the Golden Dawn began around a few writers who wrote for New Falcon press. Realizing the popularity of the occult revival many young people decided to try to ride on the coat tails of Regardie who was now a very sick man. Funny thing about many of the writers was new elements which were added to strongly suggest the use of LSD and other psychoactive drugs were great for expanding awareness and undoing the ego. This was not The Golden Dawn but a boomerish / 60's take on The Golden Dawn with a dose of Timothy Leary thrown in I go to know many of the Falconeers and though brilliant and entertaining they were anything but stable sane people. If anything, I found them more narrow-minded than most people in the general population with lives of chaos left in their wakes. To give Regardie his due, he did save much what would have been lost and to this I am grateful but what we lost in his final product we might not fully know. What we do know is that Yeat's Golden Dawn after Mather's was ousted bore little resemblance to what Regardie finally tried to pitch out via New Falcon Press in the 80's. Perhaps the closest surviving remaining tradition of The Golden Dawn in B.O.T.A (BUILDERS OF THE ADYTUM) If you can tolerate their single fixation with the Tarot to the exclusion of all else. As for Crowley, there are many books on him. Interest in Crowley has fallen off somewhat since the 90's as in the New America he is too white to find a following much outside the white community. Crowley's popularity peaked some decades ago but he is likely to remain a character of interest for the next hundred years. As for The Golden Dawn system I will say this : Much of it indeed works and much of it is pure garbage and based on overactive imaginations. A system like is works to the degree the student works for it and develops for themselves. The Golden Dawn system works simply because spirits exist and efforts made by a student are observed and results will occur to the degree one is invested to do more than experiment. Casual experimenting will produce no results.
Joyce Koch WOW! That was FABULOUS, Joyce! Thank you! I had in the short meantime, looked up Regardie, but you have more interesting info than I could find! Thanks, also, for info on The real Golden Dawn! Greatly appreciated! ✨🙏🏼✨
@@cynthiaennis3107 Sure. I can say my time with The Golden Dawn was exciting and rewarding. I can also say that if you are interested reading more I suggest The Sword of Wisdom and The Magicians of The Golden Dawn by Ellic Howe. I can tell you the Magickal system does work. In college we had a working group and we did unbelievable things - to such a degree it was hard to focus on the academics when one could do astral travel or work Magick and watch results. I did discover most people have knacks for one kind of Magick or another. I , for example, could never work with the tattwas or pathwork easily but I could astral travel easily enough in this world though could never rise on the planes. A close friend of mine was fantastic with Talisman Magick so it shows one learns by doing. The main thing to be on guard for in the Magickal community is overrun with Pagans and unstable progressive elements. Finding sane, balanced , non - Pagans interested in the original Victorian style Golden Dawn of the Yeat's kind is going to be a tough work and you might very well opt to study and work on your own.
Joyce Koch thank you so much, Joyce! I have never astral traveled that I can remember...what a wonderful thing to be able to do on a regular basis! I’m finding more & more people who can do this! I did however find myself out in space during sleep, but I felt wide awake, but only once! Many thanks for your book suggestions! I’m so glad you had such a wonderful experience in your college days! Sounds fabulous!
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Okay, which platform? Peace and light brother.
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Great relaxing and empowering meditation
Thank you !
They go in to feel darkened instead of staying outside to see the light
What series of tapes is this from? Which book?
Soooo why the lurianic tree of life?
Is that his own voice?
Yes, it is.
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Regardie pretty much destroyed The Golden Dawn and tried to remake it into
a system of psychotheraphy while eliminating it's Christian elements and
original focus on astral travel to obtain teachings up on the tree of life.
Regardie in cheering Crowley all but threw Waite, Yeats, and so many others in
his remake of The Golden Dawn.
Joyce Koch is THAT what happened??? Do you know in which edition Regardie made changes?? Thank you! I’m just learning about Regardie via Brian Scott’s YT channel as a Neville Goddard student! TYIA! (All I’ve seen about A. Crowley was that he was a spy, member of The Golden Dawn & a Satanist! That then makes no sense to me!) Do you know more about this that you can tell me...or point me in the right direction? I would be very grateful! Blessings!
@@cynthiaennis3107 Sure. Regardie was Aleister Crowley's secretary when he was in his 20's and Crowley had bad feelings about being ousted from the GD and ended up creating his own Magickal order which was a distortion of the GD. When Regardie meet Crowley, Regardie was very unhappy with his Jewish faith and was looking for more and had explored various alternative forms of mysticism like Theosophy but was disappointed with them all and determined he had to find a true guru to receive one on one treatment. Crowley saw Regardie as a apt student and took him in. Crowley treated Regardie horribly but years later after Crowley had died Regardie realized how unique an experience he had been being near Crowley and had been brought over to his ideas with a fanatical hatred of Christianity. Regardie even began to think of Crowley's abusive treatment as a form of tough love which was pure fantasy on the part of Regardie. Of course, Regardie also realized that Crowley beyond being a genius was also a nut case as big as Mather's had been with the Golden Dawn and so many other in the Magickal world of adepts. Regardie then concluded that all Magickal systems inflate the ego and make people unstable. In addition, Regardie concluded Christianity was a great evil in the world so he formulated in his own head a new system that combined ideas from Crowley with elements of The Golden Dawn pruned of it's Christian elements with heavy doses of psychotherapy and body work and Hinduism which he thought could undo mental unbalances. He then took The Golden Dawn material he had and rebuilt it with his commentary and pitched it out as the material that a Golden Dawn student would have gotten in 1888 but is was far from the same material. Even the very meaning of the Rose Cross became devoid of the meaning of the rose as a symbol of Jesus and the whole symbolism was changed into a strange alchemy re-write.Regardie wiped out almost all of Waite's material and any other member of The Golden Dawn he did not like largely due to Crowley's influence as Crowley had known most of them firsthand and Regardie assumed that it was these people rather than Crowley who had issues and poor ideas.
Regardie did most of this work in the 30's but became a celebrity in the 80's when a revival of the Golden Dawn began around a few writers who wrote for New Falcon press. Realizing the popularity of the occult revival many young people decided to try to ride on the coat tails of Regardie who was now a very sick man. Funny thing about many of the writers was new elements which were added to strongly suggest the use of LSD and other psychoactive drugs were great for expanding awareness and undoing the ego. This was not The Golden Dawn but a boomerish / 60's take on The Golden Dawn with a dose of Timothy Leary thrown in I go to know many of the Falconeers and though brilliant and entertaining they were anything but stable sane people. If anything, I found them more narrow-minded than most people in the general population with lives of chaos left in their wakes. To give Regardie his due, he did save much what would have been lost and to this I am grateful but what we lost in his final product we might not fully know. What we do know is that Yeat's Golden Dawn after Mather's was ousted bore little resemblance to what Regardie finally tried to pitch out via New Falcon Press in the 80's. Perhaps the closest surviving remaining tradition of The Golden Dawn in B.O.T.A (BUILDERS OF THE ADYTUM) If you can tolerate their single fixation with the Tarot to the exclusion of all else.
As for Crowley, there are many books on him. Interest in Crowley has fallen off somewhat since the 90's as in the New America he is too white to find a following much outside the white community. Crowley's popularity peaked some decades ago but he is likely to remain a character of interest for the next hundred years.
As for The Golden Dawn system I will say this : Much of it indeed works and much of it is pure garbage and based on overactive imaginations. A system like is works to the degree the student works for it and develops for themselves. The Golden Dawn system works simply because spirits exist and efforts made by a student are observed and results will occur to the degree one is invested to do more than experiment. Casual experimenting will produce no results.
Joyce Koch WOW! That was FABULOUS, Joyce! Thank you! I had in the short meantime, looked up Regardie, but you have more interesting info than I could find! Thanks, also, for info on The real Golden Dawn! Greatly appreciated! ✨🙏🏼✨
@@cynthiaennis3107 Sure. I can say my time with The Golden Dawn was exciting and rewarding.
I can also say that if you are interested reading more I suggest The Sword of Wisdom
and The Magicians of The Golden Dawn by Ellic Howe.
I can tell you the Magickal system does work. In college we had a working group
and we did unbelievable things - to such a degree it was hard to focus on the academics
when one could do astral travel or work Magick and watch results. I did discover most people have
knacks for one kind of Magick or another. I , for example, could never work with the
tattwas or pathwork easily but I could astral travel easily enough in this world though could never
rise on the planes. A close friend of mine was fantastic with Talisman Magick so it shows one
learns by doing. The main thing to be on guard for in the Magickal community is overrun with
Pagans and unstable progressive elements. Finding sane, balanced , non - Pagans interested in
the original Victorian style Golden Dawn of the Yeat's kind is going to be a tough work and you might
very well opt to study and work on your own.
Joyce Koch thank you so much, Joyce! I have never astral traveled that I can remember...what a wonderful thing to be able to do on a regular basis! I’m finding more & more people who can do this! I did however find myself out in space during sleep, but I felt wide awake, but only once!
Many thanks for your book suggestions! I’m so glad you had such a wonderful experience in your college days! Sounds fabulous!