Nope, it's not an AK variant - it's an FNC variant, and AK is the abbreviation for the Swedish word "automatkarbin" (automatic carbine). It's not related to the Kalashnikov series (where AK stands for Avtomat Kalashnikova) any more than the usual degree of cross-pollination within the industry. Sadly, I'd be surprised if they get sold off when they're retired; Sweden has an unfortunate habit of melting down its retired firearms.
It's a lovely accurate gun to shoot on the range, but for those of us who weren't in tooth arms it was pretty heavy. The polymer handguard is actually pretty comfy. It's nice and solid and it's essentially a plastic shroud over an inner metal heat shield.
I LOVE the AK5, ta an awesome rifle! Like you said, no it's not an Kalashnikov, it's a Swedish made licensed variant of the FN FNC, like the AK4 is a Swedish variant of the HK G3
Wouldnt the AK-5's be moved on the the swedish home guard like AK-4's was instead of being destroyed? Particularly in these times I dont think anyone would advocate for getting rid of them completely.
@@MatsGarage It's certainly possible - I just try not to get my hopes up, having seen many of the military-administrative decisions that have been made. If they are transferred, I hope they'd be used to complement the existing AK4 inventory rather than replace it.
@@MatsGarage Lots of the AK5s have already been trashed simply due to wear and tear. With a new rifle on the way, and the AK5 being so heavy, they just didnt seem to see the sense in renovating them. And the HV is said to be getting the new SAKO rifles aswell when they arrive in sufficient numbers.
I find it amusing the guy says Swedish is tricky because it's not a latin based language, completely ignoring that both Swedish and English are Germanic languages and have even more in common than French, Italian, and Spanish or the likes of it. Automatkarbin literally means automatic carbine.
While it is absolutely correct that English is a Germanic language just like Swedish, it is also a fact that English has a huge deal more influence from latin languages than what Swedish has; a tiny bit from the Romans and a major part from the Normans. Swedish is also known for being quite difficult in general so it might make sense that some English speakers find it easier to recognize words from the French than from the Swedish language. I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I could see it. This guy, however, is probably just fucking around with it. 😄
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@@jolan5254 plastic or metal mags? And it might have been with/without ammo? I just remember it from when we were training with them so I won't die on this hill hahaha, still I remember it surprised me because the ak4 is longer and bigger caliber.
@@jeffmcgillisheiden794 All numbers available for the Ak 5C _should_ be with plastic magazines. The old metal ones can be used with 5C but the bolt won't stay open after the last round has been fired. That function came with the plastic magazines.
When i hade my ak5 for my service i never hade a firestop or malfunction. Very easy to use. Handguard was plastic because of isolation from cold metal as a god compromise. And ak5 was much easier to use then the old ak4.
8:50 The handguard used here is out of service, the 5C has a picatinny rail on the top and the bottom to fit a grip. Love the video though, really cool to see someone review a review of a gun I'll (hopefully) get to fire in the future.
@@mikidi8684 Most likely. M23 production takes time. First tier are active troops and specialist forces like Border Jaegers, Paratroopers, snipers etc. Most reserve units and second tier troops would be equipped RK-62 or RK-95 variants years to come. I mean armor units still have East German era Folding AK's for crew pdw's still in use.
Are that a done deal already? all i have heard is that the sharpshooter rifles and marksman rifles have found replacement weapons while the carbines have not been desided yet.
I did my service 95/96 so I guess mine was newer then, but mine only jammed once. Could be a number of reasons why the gun in the video jams, like the parts being worn etc. Who knows, mine was working like a treat atleast :)
That problem with bullers geting stuck is something that happens once during artic education when it was -40 Fahrenheit. But other than that I haven't experienced that problem, I know it happens sometimes to some of the guys in my unit but it's because they haven't given their rifle the love and affection it desires
The cover-plate over the ejector port is flimsy shit metal and bends at any whack, when it does, the bolt gets stuck and gun jams, and the weapon-smiths refuse to accept that it is a "90% of the guns are shit" kind of problem and just blames users. If you ever have to operate one, scrutinise that ejector port cover plate for any signs of cracked paint or bending, and if it is shit, demand a fixed gun. Firing a 20 round series at the range and getting 8 misfires from stuck bolt has a horrible result on your shooting score!
I was in the Field rangers back in the early 90´s, i had a AK5B, grenade launcher and scope. It´s not really "new" but it has an amazing penetration and very good handling. I was so in love with my weapon and my heart broke when i had to hand it in. Thanks for an awesome commentary channel
some units of the airforce had the first ak5 and the ksp90 even before the rangers, in 1989 we were a prioritized unit, it's still active so cant speak more about it on an open forum like this, i put 3 rounds in the size of a 5 krona coin standing on half figure target att 300meter with iron sights... it was/is an awesome weapon
Originally the old composite handguard was selected because it was a good compromise between protecting against the heat off of the barrel when shooting and also the fact that it isolates the metal parts when used in cold/freezing weather.
Since the current stock is owned by the armed forces I would not hold my breath waiting for them to sell to the civilian market. When they decided to get rid of thousands of compasses someone came up with the idea of giving them to orienteering clubs. Nope. That would be disrupting the civilian market and they were all trashed. When the armed forces stop using something you will have better luck finding whatever is being phased out in a landfill than in a surplus store.
My experience of the AK5 and the stoppage issues is that it is magazine related. I was issued two AK5's during my time in the Swedish army, one AK5 A (with iron sights) and one AK5 B (with 4x zoom optics) and the stoppage issues was following the magazine in between the rifles. There is also a few more versions of the AK5, the D with a shorter barrel, and the E version with a longer barrel with 600m efficiency.
Thanks for this video! As some other people have said already, the front handguard on this one is from an earler AK5A variant and is now replaced by one with picatinny rails on the bottom and sides. The top rail is also different and putrudes further forward over the hand guard. I also feel like he missed to show that the stock is not only folding, but also telescopic with length adjustment possible. Cheers!
The AK5 we used in 99-00 during military service without the fancy optics and stuff. It was old then. If i remember right it's based on the FNC and adapted for cold weather conditions.
You ask if it's a new gun. No, it's not, it's from the nineties, I think. We have just decided to replace it with a new gun, a Finnish design by the Sako company. The same gun the Finnish armed forces are adopting just now, so we are standardizing on the same gun platform. So the AK5 is getting retired, or maybe handed over to the Home Guard, or gifted to Ukraine, or whatever. The new AK will be in two different calibers, both 7.62 NATO and 5.56. So basically it will replace both the AK4 and the AK5, who are in those two calibers.
When guns like these are turned into "kit" form, the receivers are cut into several pieces (de-milled). These receivers are either replaced or painstakingly welded back together.
I used this rifle during my mandatory military year in Sweden 🇸🇪. It’s a great and light weapon. Really accurate up to 400m without a sight. I did my military duty in 1998. So the AK5 has been around for at least 27 years.
The Procurment agency(FMV) expects to take delievery of 5-7k of the new AK24(AR from Sako) this year, so it will probably start to get replaced in 2025.
cant say i really miss my ak5c from when i did my military service, atleast not my first one, cause nomatter what i did it kept jamming on me, ended up with me "accidentally" bending the barrel just enough for it to be considered scrap without it being obvious i had done it on purpose. so i got issued a new one that was alright. for the ppl wondering how i managed to bend the barrel, we got issued 4 metal and 4 composite mags, i ran all 8 mags through it on auto and with a nice amount of force wacked it on the snowcovered ground, badabing badaboom bent barrel. everyone knew the ak i got issued was a piece of S*hit so nobody said anything about it :P
The armed forces are buying new weapons system so AK 5 will be replaced by AK 6. I used AK 5 when I did my military service in 1996-97. It was a good weapon.
Similarity with the SCAR, well they are both FN/ FN Herstal ( Fabrique Nationale ) made guns. The issues he is having is most certainly because of the mix of components etc. When Sweden change their rifle it will not be sold on the open market, either the Swedish Home Guard will have it and or it will be donated to Ukraine or some of the Baltic countries like they did in the 90's. Other option is that it will go into storage as part of the Swedish system with conscript military/ mobilization.
It is not new, it was introduced about 30 something years ago. When I did military service, the elite units started getting it and the idea was that everyone would get it, in due time.
What's different about Sweden is the geography. In the south winters are rainy and like 4-5 months a year. And more normal day/night cycles. In the north its full blown winter like 8-9 months of the year. And in the northernest parts its dark like 20-21 hours a day. And the middle is kind of a little blend inbetween both. The landscape is very unique.
ok first of all nice work for him to building a replica of the weapon. do he forgot the gas cylinders in it. because why its getting hot and getting malfunctions is because it is not the correct mag either. but awsome build.
I was just in the swedish military and used this gun if you have any questions it's just to reach out and i will try to anwser as best as i can. Also used 2 other weapens (ksp 90 ond ksp 58)
I recently completed my mandatory service, and used the AK5C, talking with my weapon instructor towards the end of my service, he informed us that they are replacing them with the AK24
Fun fact: the first batch of AK-5's had a plastic shoulder stock. Mix that with the fact that the first rifles made their way to the Lapland jaegers and you have a recipe for disaster, since they operate in sub -30°C weather, which would shatter the stock on your first couple of shots. My dad worked for a military contractor and created the machine that built the first aluminium shoulder stocks. :D
17:00 A Swedish trained military would never ever fire the rifle with the sling under the rifle like that. They would place it above the left wrist so it doesn't fall to the ground and so it can be caught and placed into shootingposition as fast as possible again.
AK5, based on the FN FNC. AK is Automatkarbin, Automatic Carbine in 556NATO. It has almost 40 years of use now, we still had the AK4, Our version of the HK G3 in 762NATO. It is a heavy rifle compared to an AR-15, but lighter than the old AK4. Smaller caliber means more hitters, faster... Today we only see the AK4 in the homeguard. But both rifles are on its way to be changed to an AR-15ish Sako, or actually multiple versions from SAKO. As a curiosity the military AK's has three safety setting, and we usally call them S for safe, P for professional and A for Amateur as pros shoot semi not auto. Actually P stands for Patronvis, i.e. one shot. Of AK5 and AK4 I actually prefer the AK4C which has a Spuhr buttstock, a mloc frontstock and an Aimpoint on top of a fitted picatinny.
In the Military they gave me an old 1962 AK 7.62, 35 y old and they said that i was so old that i can NOT hit a barn... Well... Bulls Eyes counts... on 150meters. then my son got a brand new 2022 AK 7.62 and Bulls Eyes again. Finns do not miss.
The AK5 does get very hot near the barrel also for the real one. The mags are the reason for failure to feed. Or the pressure on the valve that drive the rod, I don't know the term...😅
I was among the first conscripts to use the AK5C when they started appearing in the armed forces, and I loved it, very reliable. Didn’t get a single stoppage during the 11 months I used it which I thought was pretty good. When I was called in 7 years later for re-training they were a lot more worn down and had more issues, so we’re really in need of replacing them. The hand guard on the weapon in the video is from the AK5A, the C has a new one with picatiny rail. I do agree that it’s very heavy, loaded it’s about 5,1kg, compare that to the M4 which is just under 3,5kg. It’s unlikely the parts of the old guns will be sold, that simply doesn’t really happen with Swedish military gear these days. Possibly if they’re sent to Ukraine.
Ak 4: Swedish-made version of the G3A3, with a buttstock that is 2 cm longer, the bolt carrier has a serrated thumb groove to aid in silent bolt closure and fitted with a heavy buffer for higher number of rounds fired before failure. The iron sights feature extended 200-500 metres (219-547 yd) sight adjustments in 100 metres (109 yd) increments, because the 500 metres (547 yd) hit probability met Swedish military doctrine. The rifles were manufactured from 1965 to 1970 by both Carl Gustafs stads gevärsfaktori and Husqvarna Vapenfabriks and from 1970 until the end of production in 1985 - exclusively by Carl Gustaf in Eskilstuna. All Ak 4s are adapted to mount the M203 grenade launcher. Sweden has supplied unmodified Ak 4s to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ak_4_rifle
ak5 was modify for our winter climate as well, so in US state there he was, it can gets more hot/overheated easier i think and about stoppage i am not sure if our försvarsmakten (defense force) have same issue, perhaps it is a part to part build, or perhaps a neutral fault from our ak5
The ak5 has been partly adapted since 1986. Not really sure about if it will get easier for the states to get a hold of them when we adapt a new gun due to you can't own a AR or military style gun privately at all here in Sweden so 99% of the guns will end up in a military warehouses or scraped
On how to get it, two guys in Santaclaus outfits robbed a soldier of his while ON PATROL DUTY outside the HMKs CASTLE in Stockholm and got away with it 😂 (some human rights violations during interrogation later did not officially recover it)
Different tones on the same firearm are not unusual: the FN SCAR is one famous example. They similar colours help to break tge monotonous silhouette. Furthermore, different steels or aluminum amalgamations take the same treatment differently unless slathered with thick paint.
Plastic handguard is because its intended for a conscription army, its ok, nothing special, was never annoyed by it except for the ring that held it in place, that was a bitch to get on and off but there was nothing critical underneath so not much reason to take it off. I had the old foldable stock, im guessing it was just mine but it was wobbly which made it hard to aim when the gun suddenly shifted, just a few mm but when trying to hit something at 100+ meters its matters. Could have gotten it fixed i suppose but meh. The current version that is supplied to the military is the AK5C it has rails and all that jazz. I had an older AK5 when i did my service. Its a fine gun except for some stuff. The magazines are shit, the lips at the top are prone to get bent and once bent just a little you will have feed problems but as he said in the video the jams are easily and quickly fixed and you can temporarily "fix" the magazine by bending them by hand/tool/knife. Also what this guy didnt do is that before loading you should tap the backside of the mag against your helmet to make sure all bullets are firmly against the back of the magazine, less feed problems. Sometimes the spring in the magazines was shit as well but im guessing that is more because conscription armies use the old stuff in training because so many ppl have to be trained, you dont want to wear out the new stuff. But yeh the internals are simple and robust. The main thing in maintenance is the piston head and some non critical bends that get really dirty. Only problems i ever saw with the rifle was the magazine feed problems. When using in the cold you use a different setting for the gas chamber and it works even better but it gets dirtier. Back when we had a conscription army it was easier to get(illegaly) since background checks weren't a thing really so ppl associated with criminal gangs did military service and then found out were some mobilisation storages was and they are out in the woods and while robust, there is no one around so you can take your time breaking in. conscripts do patrol out to them regularly but if you have someone on the inside on the current duty patrol you could basically go at the mob storage at will. So if you got some contacts with swedish criminal biker gangs you can get a hold of one... maybe but it will be expensive for sure. Also the guns were not kept together with their bolts and they are basically impossible to steal. The easiest/only way to get a bolt was to steal a gun when in use. We got screamed at if we ever went more than ~2 meters from our rifles, especially since some conscripts had their guns stolen when they left them unattended. Didnt happen more than a handful of times but it was a big thing. I saw some guys that went to far from their weapons too often they had to have a line tied between them and their rifle.... FUN. But yeh as he said its really hard to get an AK5 anywhere. Its a perfect gun for a conscription army except for the mag problems and ill blame that on making it compatible with NATO mags ;)
Stoppages and getting hot. that's because it's a nice but homemade scrap part version made at home. Used mine for a year and a half, from +28 C to -50 C (yes!), in dry north and wet south. 1 stoppage, and that was my fault. ( Clearly a soldier develops a bond to their weapon :) )
I was in the swe military 1992/1993. Even though I was in a company in a radio regiment, getting in and out of vehicles, confined spaces and climbing radio towers, we were issued the AK4 (G3)..the longest and heaviest f-ing rifle ever built I don't get the nostalgia hype with the G3, other than it shoots 7.62. It's not accurate (2-3 MOA at 100 m), there is no last round hold open, fully loaded it weighs well over 6 kg (without any scope on), an it's a bitch to clean with that roller delay system. We were jealous of the other guys getting the AK5 (foldable) and the K-Pist (known as the Swedish K) in the same regiment😄
Hey! swed here! when we change rifles is still going to be hard to get them because we dont sell the weapons like Usa do its a very limited of people that owns a rifle in sweden and even harder to be allowed to sell them
Best standard issue rifle there is. I have training with most of the common rifles used by miletary in general. M-16, MP5, Ksp90, AK-47, Ak-4, AK-5 etc. Tge Swedish AK-5 is easily the one I put my trust in. Light, accurate, good range, never ever jam. 36 rounds per clip and it can be fittted with laser scope, nightvision or a grenade launcher. The ONE drawback is the low caliber. Its the 5.56 round. Its not that much of a problem thanks to its incredible accuracy, a 5.56 to the head of neck still kills peiple. But it would still be nice to have the 7.62 round. We have them in the AK-4 Which is basically the same rifle just bigger EDIT: Yes, the stock is collapsable, making the AK-4 feel even bigger and clumsier than it already did. EDIT2: No, its not a new weapon, we all had it when I served in 03-05 Im not sure when it was implemented, really, we had companies still using the AK-4 but I dont think that was because the AK5 was new but due to the AK4 having the higher caliber and the guys using them were often guard soldiers or in the Navy, Places where you dont automatically suffer for having a larger frame on your weopon EDIT3: Its not plastic, its carbon fibre. Its used becaue its relatively cheap, light and it doesnt get cold or warm to hold, regardless if your fighting in the desert or in the apls. I would never want another hand guard. This one works in EVERY condition and the whole weapon is made to be as light as possible. Easy to move with. And Ive never experienced the grip getting hot perhaps hes bought a replica of another material? I dont know... but Ive NEVER even thought about it untill after my service, thats how much of a none issue it was. EDIT4: Heavy? Iits like 3.6kgs, whats that like 8lbs ish. Fully loaded and decked out with all the add ons its like 4.9 or something. Hell its basically the asme as the m-16, almost a KG lighter than the AK47 Unless they changed it of course... its been two decades since I was discharged.
The likeliest when the AK5C is phased out is that they are sent to Ukraine, that or filtered down to the home guard, and their current weapons go to Ukraine. Still good stuff. Both fit the environment, and generally makes sense to send over as we replace it with the SAKO rifles together with Finland. (Part of aligning our defence with Finland as part of NATO and apart from NATO with our now even closer defence cooperation)
It's not new ❤ actually Sweden is changing fire arms to finish made about now. I remember when I did my service AK4 was going out (-90's) and AK5 came. But now its being replaced.
You should react to Garand's AN94 video, is one of the most iconic weapons he gets his hands on. Ian has also a video on it on forgotten weapons. Is such an iconic firearm.
I used it doing my obligatory military service (i.e. education) in 1990... so no, it's not new... and then I used it during several repetitions of my education in the Swedish Amphibian forces. But it's bullet proof (pun intended) - not one failure during my times using it.
AK5 is really cool weapon and M23 will be fine upgrade... I just always had bit doubt of 5,56 capabilities in dense forest. I think I am old school. During war I prolly would prefer 7.62x39mm over 5,56 in terrain we are, but higher up's have decided and Sweden and us will have some variant of M23's eventually...
Go check out garand thumb. Your concerns with the sig as a long rifle for close quarter Combat It is nine inches this new us rifle it is called sig spear assault mk18
You can easily flip the plastic hand guard off. I guess there are modifications but it works just fine, sturdy, not warm etc... Did my military service, used this weapon a shit load. Compared to the M16 the AK5C is easier to maintain but much heavier. Pros and cons as with everything... Probably getting too many stoppages because of the shit parts? Most likely either too strong spring or too weak spring in the mag. The AK5 I used got one maybe every 250 rounds.
Funny that this video was released in Oct -23 when Sweden is in the middle of upgrading their weapons to SAKO. In less than a year they will have to make a new video
Its not new, Sweden have however bought new rifles with finland. SAKO ak24. They have started to roll out but not many. In a couple of years the Ak5 will be gone.
The difference between FN FNC 81 and AK5. Some of the changes made on AK5A.... Buttstock and handguard was made longer, the 3-shot burst feature was removed, Sight´s, charging handle trigger guard was made bigger and modified magazine release to make it easier to use gloves, magazines, increased lifespan of many details, fire selector and some other things. Some of the modeifications from the AK5 on the AK5C Shorted barrel to 350mm, New flash suppressor, New handguard with 3 integraded MIL-STD-1913 rail´s , added MIL-STD-1913 rail for Aimpoint EHV (red dot sight), double sided fire selector, New pistol grip, New adjustible foldable buttstock(AK5A only had a foldable buttstock), foldable iron sight, bolt catch(is it the correct word for bolt catch after last round is fire? :P) was added and increased lifespan of many details. AK5B is a AK5A with a Susat (Sight Unit Small Arms Trilux)sight same as on the UK SA80 (L85 L86). If i remember corectly🤔 AK5D mostly the same as AK5C but shorter barrel 259mm 12:54 The trial weapon for the AK5C AK5CF (F= Försök/trial) was painted black, our police (Beredskapspolisen / Emergency police) also had a version of the AK5D...CGA 5 (Carl Gustaf Automatkarbin 5) and it was also painted black and only had singel fire mode but Emergency police ended from the police organisation in 2012.
Nope, it's not an AK variant - it's an FNC variant, and AK is the abbreviation for the Swedish word "automatkarbin" (automatic carbine). It's not related to the Kalashnikov series (where AK stands for Avtomat Kalashnikova) any more than the usual degree of cross-pollination within the industry.
Sadly, I'd be surprised if they get sold off when they're retired; Sweden has an unfortunate habit of melting down its retired firearms.
It's a lovely accurate gun to shoot on the range, but for those of us who weren't in tooth arms it was pretty heavy.
The polymer handguard is actually pretty comfy. It's nice and solid and it's essentially a plastic shroud over an inner metal heat shield.
I LOVE the AK5, ta an awesome rifle!
Like you said, no it's not an Kalashnikov, it's a Swedish made licensed variant of the FN FNC, like the AK4 is a Swedish variant of the HK G3
Wouldnt the AK-5's be moved on the the swedish home guard like AK-4's was instead of being destroyed? Particularly in these times I dont think anyone would advocate for getting rid of them completely.
@@MatsGarage It's certainly possible - I just try not to get my hopes up, having seen many of the military-administrative decisions that have been made. If they are transferred, I hope they'd be used to complement the existing AK4 inventory rather than replace it.
@@MatsGarage Lots of the AK5s have already been trashed simply due to wear and tear. With a new rifle on the way, and the AK5 being so heavy, they just didnt seem to see the sense in renovating them. And the HV is said to be getting the new SAKO rifles aswell when they arrive in sufficient numbers.
I find it amusing the guy says Swedish is tricky because it's not a latin based language, completely ignoring that both Swedish and English are Germanic languages and have even more in common than French, Italian, and Spanish or the likes of it. Automatkarbin literally means automatic carbine.
it's called sarcasm :)
I spotted that as well. Don't worry. Its just a demonstration of a subpar education system.
@@northernlight8857 nah they are born like that. you know 1 extra chromosome
While it is absolutely correct that English is a Germanic language just like Swedish, it is also a fact that English has a huge deal more influence from latin languages than what Swedish has; a tiny bit from the Romans and a major part from the Normans. Swedish is also known for being quite difficult in general so it might make sense that some English speakers find it easier to recognize words from the French than from the Swedish language. I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I could see it. This guy, however, is probably just fucking around with it. 😄
What is your sources for this? @@mindtrocity6444
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@@jolan5254 the greatest mystery of them all
@@jolan5254 Youll never guess
All(or most) of them are managed by the same social media talent agency I think. Guntube is big business, Americans spend an ungodly amount of money on guns every year.
Garand Thumb is in Oregon or Washington. Definitely somewhere in the Pacific Northwest.
The AK 4 is used by our home guard.
The AK 5 entered service mid 80s. It's not new.
The AK 5C entered service in 2006.
Funny how the ak5 was heavier than the 7.62 ak4 hahaha
@@jeffmcgillisheiden794 Loaded Ak 4 5,3 kg. Loaded Ak 5C 5,1 kg.
The Ak 5B, which is the DMR variant, is heavier. 5,4 kg loaded. Compared to the Ak 5C it has a heavier optic and another 10 inches of barrel.
@@jolan5254 plastic or metal mags? And it might have been with/without ammo?
I just remember it from when we were training with them so I won't die on this hill hahaha, still I remember it surprised me because the ak4 is longer and bigger caliber.
@@jeffmcgillisheiden794 All numbers available for the Ak 5C _should_ be with plastic magazines. The old metal ones can be used with 5C but the bolt won't stay open after the last round has been fired. That function came with the plastic magazines.
When i hade my ak5 for my service i never hade a firestop or malfunction. Very easy to use. Handguard was plastic because of isolation from cold metal as a god compromise. And ak5 was much easier to use then the old ak4.
8:50
The handguard used here is out of service, the 5C has a picatinny rail on the top and the bottom to fit a grip.
Love the video though, really cool to see someone review a review of a gun I'll (hopefully) get to fire in the future.
Doesn't the current version have picatinny rails on the sides as well?
The AK5C will be replace with the Sako M23 and Finland will replace their RK 95 TP with the Sako M23 also.
Only the RK95? So I will get to use my rk62m2 in the future as well?😍
@@mikidi8684 Most likely. M23 production takes time. First tier are active troops and specialist forces like Border Jaegers, Paratroopers, snipers etc. Most reserve units and second tier troops would be equipped RK-62 or RK-95 variants years to come. I mean armor units still have East German era Folding AK's for crew pdw's still in use.
Are that a done deal already? all i have heard is that the sharpshooter rifles and marksman rifles have found replacement weapons while the carbines have not been desided yet.
@@samolofsson2401Some have already been delivered to the Swedish army. But the transition will take some time. But yeah, done deal.
The stoppages are caused by the gas preassure not being adjusted to the ammo he's using
Welcome to the Guntuber rabbit hole
Dead right!
The handguard is part of the OLD AK 5 A/B, the newer one has another handguard, from my experience better than that one :)
I hade mine AK5 for 8 month and it never malfunction.
Same here. It’s often a matter of maintenence. Make some love with it and she will never fail you.
I was going to say, I ran my through my entire service and had zero malfunctions.
I did my service 95/96 so I guess mine was newer then, but mine only jammed once. Could be a number of reasons why the gun in the video jams, like the parts being worn etc. Who knows, mine was working like a treat atleast :)
That problem with bullers geting stuck is something that happens once during artic education when it was -40 Fahrenheit. But other than that I haven't experienced that problem, I know it happens sometimes to some of the guys in my unit but it's because they haven't given their rifle the love and affection it desires
The cover-plate over the ejector port is flimsy shit metal and bends at any whack, when it does, the bolt gets stuck and gun jams, and the weapon-smiths refuse to accept that it is a "90% of the guns are shit" kind of problem and just blames users. If you ever have to operate one, scrutinise that ejector port cover plate for any signs of cracked paint or bending, and if it is shit, demand a fixed gun. Firing a 20 round series at the range and getting 8 misfires from stuck bolt has a horrible result on your shooting score!
I was in the Field rangers back in the early 90´s, i had a AK5B, grenade launcher and scope. It´s not really "new" but it has an amazing penetration and very good handling. I was so in love with my weapon and my heart broke when i had to hand it in. Thanks for an awesome commentary channel
some units of the airforce had the first ak5 and the ksp90 even before the rangers, in 1989 we were a prioritized unit, it's still active so cant speak more about it on an open forum like this, i put 3 rounds in the size of a 5 krona coin standing on half figure target att 300meter with iron sights... it was/is an awesome weapon
It's not an AK variant.
Battlefield 4 was the best.
Bf3 and Bf1 were better.
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Originally the old composite handguard was selected because it was a good compromise between protecting against the heat off of the barrel when shooting and also the fact that it isolates the metal parts when used in cold/freezing weather.
I don´t know why he had so many malfunctions.
I´ve fired a lot with the ak 5, and rarely had any malfunctions at all.
The AK5 will be replaced by the new AK24 in 2025/2026. Pre-series of 200 units has been delivered undrr March/April 2024 for test shooting
Isn’t it the AK6?
@@CharlieFoxtrot128 nope
@@ingvartorma9789 everything I’ve seen calls it the AK6
@@CharlieFoxtrot128 nope it's AK24, NOT AK6
What the 7,62 version will be, AK25?
Since the current stock is owned by the armed forces I would not hold my breath waiting for them to sell to the civilian market. When they decided to get rid of thousands of compasses someone came up with the idea of giving them to orienteering clubs. Nope. That would be disrupting the civilian market and they were all trashed. When the armed forces stop using something you will have better luck finding whatever is being phased out in a landfill than in a surplus store.
Yeah there is very limited capacity for mental gymnastics in government circles.
Got to watch the other NGSW components (xm-157 and xm-250) and Garand thumb has made videos on both already.
My experience of the AK5 and the stoppage issues is that it is magazine related. I was issued two AK5's during my time in the Swedish army, one AK5 A (with iron sights) and one AK5 B (with 4x zoom optics) and the stoppage issues was following the magazine in between the rifles. There is also a few more versions of the AK5, the D with a shorter barrel, and the E version with a longer barrel with 600m efficiency.
Thanks for this video!
As some other people have said already, the front handguard on this one is from an earler AK5A variant and is now replaced by one with picatinny rails on the bottom and sides. The top rail is also different and putrudes further forward over the hand guard.
I also feel like he missed to show that the stock is not only folding, but also telescopic with length adjustment possible.
Cheers!
The AK5 we used in 99-00 during military service without the fancy optics and stuff. It was old then. If i remember right it's based on the FNC and adapted for cold weather conditions.
You ask if it's a new gun. No, it's not, it's from the nineties, I think. We have just decided to replace it with a new gun, a Finnish design by the Sako company. The same gun the Finnish armed forces are adopting just now, so we are standardizing on the same gun platform. So the AK5 is getting retired, or maybe handed over to the Home Guard, or gifted to Ukraine, or whatever. The new AK will be in two different calibers, both 7.62 NATO and 5.56. So basically it will replace both the AK4 and the AK5, who are in those two calibers.
When guns like these are turned into "kit" form, the receivers are cut into several pieces (de-milled). These receivers are either replaced or painstakingly welded back together.
I used this rifle during my mandatory military year in Sweden 🇸🇪.
It’s a great and light weapon. Really accurate up to 400m without a sight. I did my military duty in 1998.
So the AK5 has been around for at least 27 years.
The Procurment agency(FMV) expects to take delievery of 5-7k of the new AK24(AR from Sako) this year, so it will probably start to get replaced in 2025.
I had one of the early AK-5s when I did my millitary service in 1995. So they have been around for a while.
cant say i really miss my ak5c from when i did my military service, atleast not my first one, cause nomatter what i did it kept jamming on me, ended up with me "accidentally" bending the barrel just enough for it to be considered scrap without it being obvious i had done it on purpose. so i got issued a new one that was alright. for the ppl wondering how i managed to bend the barrel, we got issued 4 metal and 4 composite mags, i ran all 8 mags through it on auto and with a nice amount of force wacked it on the snowcovered ground, badabing badaboom bent barrel. everyone knew the ak i got issued was a piece of S*hit so nobody said anything about it :P
The armed forces are buying new weapons system so AK 5 will be replaced by AK 6. I used AK 5 when I did my military service in 1996-97. It was a good weapon.
Similarity with the SCAR, well they are both FN/ FN Herstal ( Fabrique Nationale ) made guns. The issues he is having is most certainly because of the mix of components etc.
When Sweden change their rifle it will not be sold on the open market, either the Swedish Home Guard will have it and or it will be donated to Ukraine or some of the Baltic countries like they did in the 90's. Other option is that it will go into storage as part of the Swedish system with conscript military/ mobilization.
It is not new, it was introduced about 30 something years ago. When I did military service, the elite units started getting it and the idea was that everyone would get it, in due time.
You can see it’s an AK variant, AK is automatkarbin, not A. kalashnikov 😅
What's different about Sweden is the geography.
In the south winters are rainy and like 4-5 months a year. And more normal day/night cycles.
In the north its full blown winter like 8-9 months of the year. And in the northernest parts its dark like 20-21 hours a day.
And the middle is kind of a little blend inbetween both. The landscape is very unique.
ok first of all nice work for him to building a replica of the weapon. do he forgot the gas cylinders in it. because why its getting hot and getting malfunctions is because it is not the correct mag either. but awsome build.
The hand gard was changed a long time ago, and we have a new red dot.... BTW we are geting a new system soon, might be worth reakting to it?
I was just in the swedish military and used this gun if you have any questions it's just to reach out and i will try to anwser as best as i can. Also used 2 other weapens (ksp 90 ond ksp 58)
We have had the ak5 for at last 30 years, i had the ak5 in the begining of the 90is when I was in the military.
I love this guy. The bar video is amazing
I recently completed my mandatory service, and used the AK5C, talking with my weapon instructor towards the end of my service, he informed us that they are replacing them with the AK24
The first gen AK-5 was introduced in the Swedish army back in 1986 replacing the old AK-4 workhorse. The next gen AK-5 came last year (2023).
The first version was available when I performed my services in 1987-88, so it has been around for a while.
Fun fact: the first batch of AK-5's had a plastic shoulder stock. Mix that with the fact that the first rifles made their way to the Lapland jaegers and you have a recipe for disaster, since they operate in sub -30°C weather, which would shatter the stock on your first couple of shots. My dad worked for a military contractor and created the machine that built the first aluminium shoulder stocks. :D
It is a modified FN-FNC that used to be used by Belgium.
17:00 A Swedish trained military would never ever fire the rifle with the sling under the rifle like that. They would place it above the left wrist so it doesn't fall to the ground and so it can be caught and placed into shootingposition as fast as possible again.
Ak -5 has a lot of version ....some of them can be used with Colt M203... It start whit Ak 5 A to Ak 5 Delta. But they will be replaced . For a reason
Battlefield series ❤ is like AK's Swedish too. The game came from Sweden.
To bad its shit now. It was ruined when went over to Microsoft, and the old team quit
@@reallivebluescat It was already getting worse with EA take over.
Funny thing. We had a 6.5 round before the US. Its called 6.5x55 and its a very good round. Good balistics
I miss “my” trusty Ak5. We had a lot of fun❤
AK5, based on the FN FNC. AK is Automatkarbin, Automatic Carbine in 556NATO. It has almost 40 years of use now, we still had the AK4, Our version of the HK G3 in 762NATO. It is a heavy rifle compared to an AR-15, but lighter than the old AK4. Smaller caliber means more hitters, faster... Today we only see the AK4 in the homeguard. But both rifles are on its way to be changed to an AR-15ish Sako, or actually multiple versions from SAKO. As a curiosity the military AK's has three safety setting, and we usally call them S for safe, P for professional and A for Amateur as pros shoot semi not auto. Actually P stands for Patronvis, i.e. one shot. Of AK5 and AK4 I actually prefer the AK4C which has a Spuhr buttstock, a mloc frontstock and an Aimpoint on top of a fitted picatinny.
you should react to the kentucky ballistics 50 cal incident
I did military service beack in 1997, and we used the AK5.
In the Military they gave me an old 1962 AK 7.62, 35 y old and they said that i was so old that i can NOT hit a barn... Well... Bulls Eyes counts... on 150meters.
then my son got a brand new 2022 AK 7.62 and Bulls Eyes again. Finns do not miss.
I've been waiting for you to check the Swedish weapons. Hope you also check out the new weapons that will come to the Swedish Armed Forces.
The AK5 does get very hot near the barrel also for the real one. The mags are the reason for failure to feed. Or the pressure on the valve that drive the rod, I don't know the term...😅
I was among the first conscripts to use the AK5C when they started appearing in the armed forces, and I loved it, very reliable. Didn’t get a single stoppage during the 11 months I used it which I thought was pretty good. When I was called in 7 years later for re-training they were a lot more worn down and had more issues, so we’re really in need of replacing them. The hand guard on the weapon in the video is from the AK5A, the C has a new one with picatiny rail.
I do agree that it’s very heavy, loaded it’s about 5,1kg, compare that to the M4 which is just under 3,5kg.
It’s unlikely the parts of the old guns will be sold, that simply doesn’t really happen with Swedish military gear these days. Possibly if they’re sent to Ukraine.
Ak 4: Swedish-made version of the G3A3, with a buttstock that is 2 cm longer, the bolt carrier has a serrated thumb groove to aid in silent bolt closure and fitted with a heavy buffer for higher number of rounds fired before failure. The iron sights feature extended 200-500 metres (219-547 yd) sight adjustments in 100 metres (109 yd) increments, because the 500 metres (547 yd) hit probability met Swedish military doctrine. The rifles were manufactured from 1965 to 1970 by both Carl Gustafs stads gevärsfaktori and Husqvarna Vapenfabriks and from 1970 until the end of production in 1985 - exclusively by Carl Gustaf in Eskilstuna. All Ak 4s are adapted to mount the M203 grenade launcher. Sweden has supplied unmodified Ak 4s to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
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ak5 was modify for our winter climate as well, so in US state there he was, it can gets more hot/overheated easier i think
and about stoppage i am not sure if our försvarsmakten (defense force) have same issue, perhaps it is a part to part build, or perhaps a neutral fault from our ak5
The ak5 has been partly adapted since 1986.
Not really sure about if it will get easier for the states to get a hold of them when we adapt a new gun due to you can't own a AR or military style gun privately at all here in Sweden so 99% of the guns will end up in a military warehouses or scraped
On how to get it, two guys in Santaclaus outfits robbed a soldier of his while ON PATROL DUTY outside the HMKs CASTLE in Stockholm and got away with it 😂 (some human rights violations during interrogation later did not officially recover it)
Different tones on the same firearm are not unusual: the FN SCAR is one famous example. They similar colours help to break tge monotonous silhouette.
Furthermore, different steels or aluminum amalgamations take the same treatment differently unless slathered with thick paint.
That red dot sight is also Swedish, Aimpoint is a Malmö based company.
Getting any weapon part from Sweden is worth a applause because the laws are so freakin hard.
Plastic handguard is because its intended for a conscription army, its ok, nothing special, was never annoyed by it except for the ring that held it in place, that was a bitch to get on and off but there was nothing critical underneath so not much reason to take it off. I had the old foldable stock, im guessing it was just mine but it was wobbly which made it hard to aim when the gun suddenly shifted, just a few mm but when trying to hit something at 100+ meters its matters. Could have gotten it fixed i suppose but meh.
The current version that is supplied to the military is the AK5C it has rails and all that jazz.
I had an older AK5 when i did my service. Its a fine gun except for some stuff. The magazines are shit, the lips at the top are prone to get bent and once bent just a little you will have feed problems but as he said in the video the jams are easily and quickly fixed and you can temporarily "fix" the magazine by bending them by hand/tool/knife. Also what this guy didnt do is that before loading you should tap the backside of the mag against your helmet to make sure all bullets are firmly against the back of the magazine, less feed problems. Sometimes the spring in the magazines was shit as well but im guessing that is more because conscription armies use the old stuff in training because so many ppl have to be trained, you dont want to wear out the new stuff.
But yeh the internals are simple and robust. The main thing in maintenance is the piston head and some non critical bends that get really dirty. Only problems i ever saw with the rifle was the magazine feed problems.
When using in the cold you use a different setting for the gas chamber and it works even better but it gets dirtier.
Back when we had a conscription army it was easier to get(illegaly) since background checks weren't a thing really so ppl associated with criminal gangs did military service and then found out were some mobilisation storages was and they are out in the woods and while robust, there is no one around so you can take your time breaking in. conscripts do patrol out to them regularly but if you have someone on the inside on the current duty patrol you could basically go at the mob storage at will.
So if you got some contacts with swedish criminal biker gangs you can get a hold of one... maybe but it will be expensive for sure.
Also the guns were not kept together with their bolts and they are basically impossible to steal.
The easiest/only way to get a bolt was to steal a gun when in use.
We got screamed at if we ever went more than ~2 meters from our rifles, especially since some conscripts had their guns stolen when they left them unattended. Didnt happen more than a handful of times but it was a big thing. I saw some guys that went to far from their weapons too often they had to have a line tied between them and their rifle.... FUN.
But yeh as he said its really hard to get an AK5 anywhere.
Its a perfect gun for a conscription army except for the mag problems and ill blame that on making it compatible with NATO mags ;)
Stoppages and getting hot. that's because it's a nice but homemade scrap part version made at home.
Used mine for a year and a half, from +28 C to -50 C (yes!), in dry north and wet south. 1 stoppage, and that was my fault.
( Clearly a soldier develops a bond to their weapon :) )
I was in the swe military 1992/1993. Even though I was in a company in a radio regiment, getting in and out of vehicles, confined spaces and climbing radio towers, we were issued the AK4 (G3)..the longest and heaviest f-ing rifle ever built
I don't get the nostalgia hype with the G3, other than it shoots 7.62. It's not accurate (2-3 MOA at 100 m), there is no last round hold open, fully loaded it weighs well over 6 kg (without any scope on), an it's a bitch to clean with that roller delay system.
We were jealous of the other guys getting the AK5 (foldable) and the K-Pist (known as the Swedish K) in the same regiment😄
Ya know we are always learnin! We gotta know what makes it work and how it works, and what makes it work better or worse
Well english isn´t latin based either, but mostly Scandinavian and german based,..
Hey! swed here! when we change rifles is still going to be hard to get them because we dont sell the weapons like Usa do its a very limited of people that owns a rifle in sweden and even harder to be allowed to sell them
Best standard issue rifle there is.
I have training with most of the common rifles used by miletary in general.
M-16, MP5, Ksp90, AK-47, Ak-4, AK-5 etc.
Tge Swedish AK-5 is easily the one I put my trust in.
Light, accurate, good range, never ever jam.
36 rounds per clip and it can be fittted with laser scope, nightvision or a grenade launcher.
The ONE drawback is the low caliber.
Its the 5.56 round.
Its not that much of a problem thanks to its incredible accuracy, a 5.56 to the head of neck still kills peiple.
But it would still be nice to have the 7.62 round.
We have them in the AK-4
Which is basically the same rifle just bigger
EDIT:
Yes, the stock is collapsable, making the AK-4 feel even bigger and clumsier than it already did.
EDIT2:
No, its not a new weapon, we all had it when I served in 03-05
Im not sure when it was implemented, really, we had companies still using the AK-4 but I dont think that was because the AK5 was new but due to the AK4 having the higher caliber and the guys using them were often guard soldiers or in the Navy, Places where you dont automatically suffer for having a larger frame on your weopon
EDIT3:
Its not plastic, its carbon fibre.
Its used becaue its relatively cheap, light and it doesnt get cold or warm to hold, regardless if your fighting in the desert or in the apls.
I would never want another hand guard.
This one works in EVERY condition and the whole weapon is made to be as light as possible.
Easy to move with.
And Ive never experienced the grip getting hot perhaps hes bought a replica of another material?
I dont know... but Ive NEVER even thought about it untill after my service, thats how much of a none issue it was.
EDIT4:
Heavy?
Iits like 3.6kgs, whats that like 8lbs ish.
Fully loaded and decked out with all the add ons its like 4.9 or something.
Hell its basically the asme as the m-16, almost a KG lighter than the AK47
Unless they changed it of course... its been two decades since I was discharged.
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You just earned a new sub. Good videos dude 👌
The likeliest when the AK5C is phased out is that they are sent to Ukraine, that or filtered down to the home guard, and their current weapons go to Ukraine. Still good stuff. Both fit the environment, and generally makes sense to send over as we replace it with the SAKO rifles together with Finland. (Part of aligning our defence with Finland as part of NATO and apart from NATO with our now even closer defence cooperation)
Ak in the swedish perspective does not stand for Avtomat Kalashnikova it stands for automat karbin with in english is automatic carbine
All these gun tubers are great guys, got that type of humour, if ya get what i mean,, especially Charles/Charlie on garand thumb 😂
It's not new ❤ actually Sweden is changing fire arms to finish made about now. I remember when I did my service AK4 was going out (-90's) and AK5 came. But now its being replaced.
You should react to Garand's AN94 video, is one of the most iconic weapons he gets his hands on. Ian has also a video on it on forgotten weapons. Is such an iconic firearm.
Yea the H&K G-3 is 7.62X51mm. So that's a major change in platform. Is that an upgrade? I suppose that depends on how far the enemy is.
I used it doing my obligatory military service (i.e. education) in 1990... so no, it's not new... and then I used it during several repetitions of my education in the Swedish Amphibian forces.
But it's bullet proof (pun intended) - not one failure during my times using it.
Sweden started to use it 1987......
I can’t wait for you to see the PSG-1
AK5 is really cool weapon and M23 will be fine upgrade... I just always had bit doubt of 5,56 capabilities in dense forest. I think I am old school. During war I prolly would prefer 7.62x39mm over 5,56 in terrain we are, but higher up's have decided and Sweden and us will have some variant of M23's eventually...
Go check out garand thumb. Your concerns with the sig as a long rifle for close quarter Combat It is nine inches this new us rifle it is called sig spear assault mk18
The real AK5 are really reliable and dosent jam very often. Its very accurate to shoot with. Downside is that its heavy compared to modern guns.
You can easily flip the plastic hand guard off. I guess there are modifications but it works just fine, sturdy, not warm etc...
Did my military service, used this weapon a shit load. Compared to the M16 the AK5C is easier to maintain but much heavier. Pros and cons as with everything...
Probably getting too many stoppages because of the shit parts? Most likely either too strong spring or too weak spring in the mag. The AK5 I used got one maybe every 250 rounds.
Funny that this video was released in Oct -23 when Sweden is in the middle of upgrading their weapons to SAKO. In less than a year they will have to make a new video
In the spring of 2023, Sweden signed an agreement to upgrade the current AK4 and AK5 to the SSV24, which is now being test fired.
And soon Sweden will use the AK 6, chamberd in 7,62. some will be in 5,56. finland will also share the same rifle.
Ak 24 not ak5.
Its not new, Sweden have however bought new rifles with finland. SAKO ak24. They have started to roll out but not many. In a couple of years the Ak5 will be gone.
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10:25 Mate... Bf 2042 (2024? :D) is actually super solid today. Go check it out, it has had an incredible redemption arc. Its fun as hell now.
The difference between FN FNC 81 and AK5. Some of the changes made on AK5A.... Buttstock and handguard was made longer, the 3-shot burst feature was removed, Sight´s, charging handle trigger guard was made bigger and modified magazine release to make it easier to use gloves, magazines, increased lifespan of many details, fire selector and some other things. Some of the modeifications from the AK5 on the AK5C Shorted barrel to 350mm, New flash suppressor, New handguard with 3 integraded MIL-STD-1913 rail´s , added MIL-STD-1913 rail for Aimpoint EHV (red dot sight), double sided fire selector, New pistol grip, New adjustible foldable buttstock(AK5A only had a foldable buttstock), foldable iron sight, bolt catch(is it the correct word for bolt catch after last round is fire? :P) was added and increased lifespan of many details. AK5B is a AK5A with a Susat (Sight Unit Small Arms Trilux)sight same as on the UK SA80 (L85 L86). If i remember corectly🤔 AK5D mostly the same as AK5C but shorter barrel 259mm 12:54 The trial weapon for the AK5C AK5CF (F= Försök/trial) was painted black, our police (Beredskapspolisen / Emergency police) also had a version of the AK5D...CGA 5 (Carl Gustaf Automatkarbin 5) and it was also painted black and only had singel fire mode but Emergency police ended from the police organisation in 2012.
the red dot sight can be on for 10 years whithout loosing battery
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That's why we still going back to ak4 ..
yes build on licens but i did use first gen ak5 from the 80 so its soon 40 year old weapon
Ak5’s been around in sweden for at least 20 some years.
The hand guard on the rifle in this video is not genuine AK5. Looks more like a standard FN FNC hand guard. The AK5 hand guard is different.
I loved this gun in Battlefield 4.
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