ARTIST ARE DOING TWITTER WRONG! Maybe!
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
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I'm sure this kind of video is really different from my regular content, but it is something I put a lot of effort in and I feel like with RJ Palmers large following this might influence some people to make wrong decisions in their pursuit for their art on twitter. I have nothing against RJ Palmer, so I really hope no one sees this as a call out video, its just testing the advice he gave people, and this kind of advice is very relevant and sought after by smaller artists online.
I'm sure somewhere in here I ended up making a few mistakes, and there are other things to take into consideration about how a post did well or not. For instance, the negative pieces ended up being posted around the time of Inktober and all of the derivatives beginning. However after the initial explosion of Inktober/derivatives the results were all particularly negative. There are also most superficial things like day of the week and time of day.
I also want to mention, since i didn't in the video, the beginning of the year, I only had around 180 followers. So anything posted in January had a very miniscule following, and as the year progresses that following got bigger. My following wasn't always 400+ (which isn't even that large in terms of the overall), but it has since grown since a lot of these pieces were posted, and some of them performed worse.
One thing I didn't mention in the video was also tagging efficently. A lot of people add #wip #digitalart and other more "fillery" tags into their work. These typically don't get you much, since they are such broad search terms and it is way better to be more specific about your tags then just adding whatever you feel like. Also not going tag crazy and adding like 20 tags to one piece of art.
And the last thing, I didn't add what I wrote was OG captions, mostly since I felt like it wasn't nessecary. In most of the reposts I tried to include at least the fandom name, so FFXIV, Guilty Gear, etc... and the one post that did the best didn't even have FFXIV in the title.
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it's crazy how artists have to struggle on twitter. Your art is good and eye catching, and it gets less than 100 likes consistently? Disheartening
Thank you!
The thing with twitter - and I suppose most social media's like that is theres a bunch of caveats. The first being art that does well on the algorithm isn't always the most amazing art. It just does a good job of being eye catching. And secondly is the amount of engagement you feed into the algorithm might not always be consistent. You can supplement with text posts/polls and other forms of engagement or retweeting your own work, but its really learning to understand how it works to benefit you later.
This whole twitter system has very little to do with your art quality than it does more about learning what to do to take advantage of it which is something a lot of creatives also struggle with or have a lot of internal conflict with.
@@SorenSleepy 100000%, you're absolutely right. I have some creator friends that feel kinda dirty for trying to get how the algorythm works and to play it... But you have no other choice. It doesn't have to be dishonest, but you do have to try to post consistently at least... I just wish we wouldn't have to play a guessing game with it like that! Thanks for your video btw, it was nice and informative :)
maybe it means it ain't eye catching
or even good idk
Less than 3 consistently over here
I had no idea hashtags were actually hurting my tweets 😓
I just recently started to seriously post more of my art on Twitter and I have no idea how to make sure people see them. 😥
I switched to Twitter since I don’t need to censor my art like on insta, but getting engagement is SO HARD 😭 😭 😭
Keep your chin up!
Getting started is definitely the hardest part but once you get rolling itll feel a lot easier.
Remember to try and be actice, so retweet your own stuff, do text posts, post your art etc.
Dont forget to network as well, even just commenting on people of similar skill level or even subject matter over time youll develop relationships and connections if you keep engaging with others they might start engaging with you. Its very transactional but you might make some great art friends getting out of your own bubble.
Being active is definitely the most important, and find your good times to post. For example the 2 weeks worth of posting I did for this video, I found the days where I had my highest amounts of engagement and days where I had the lowest. So I typically now post finished pieces on my good days and wips, sketches, small stuff on worse days (statistically).
Youll get there!!
@@SorenSleepy OMG u responded 😲 Thank u so much ☺️
Ur video and tips were very helpful and I’m going to try them out 💛
@@SorenSleepy Tbh I never even engage with people irl and never felt the need to engage with anyone on social media before so idk what to even tweet at people other than "your art looks nice" etc'. This is frankly so unfair to introverts. I just wanted to make art, not have to talk to people...
@@jdoe2737 You can definitely just post your artwork and not interact. It is something some people do. The one example I can think of is Hungry Clicker on twitter. They post almost 0 posts besides art with no caption. They follow 0 people and have half a million followers.
If you want to grow your audience, it is unfortunately something you'll have to learn to overcome. I am introverted as well and I have very little social energy and I prefer being alone. However you can start small. Tell people you like their art. If you see an interesting artwork ask them how they did a specific thing. Like whats your process for drawing details on armor, or what was the idea for the fruit iris's. Things like that.
If you just want to draw and post it online to share, you don't need to overcome these barriers. But as a general, I guess lesson I've learned in life, is most things, you won't accomplish on your own. Having people around you to support you or help you is invaluable. But you have to live your life in a way that works for you and overcome those obstacles on your own. Internet audiences aren't a be-all-end-all and if art is something you want to pursue there is a professional environment which won't take too much of an account of your online success in terms of engagement and would be more interested in your portfolio, ideas and skills.
@@SorenSleepy OK, thank you for your feedback. Tbh a professional environment isn't really an option for me because of where I live, so gaining an audience might be the only way. I just feel no natural desire to engage with people at all, so idk how I'll be able to pull that off.
Ok, I have something to drop here but, the fact that a tweet if mine with no hashtags, just me being weird on twitter will always get more impressions than those with my art which is really sad since I was really proud of that piece and the fact it’ll just flop is just… man
Sometimes it is like that unfortunately. Keep bumping your artwork and sharing it around. Theres so much going on on twitter it can just slide right by a ton of people. Try and work on good shape language so that important information translates better at a small quick glance! You only have a few seconds to capture someones attention while they scroll to make them consider engaging.
Literally started an art Twitter yesterday. Fanart for some popular animes I like. I have no idea how to operate Twitter or get my stuff out there, but I know on wattpad I started getting reads because I engaged a lot with readers on my story and I commented and goofed off with other people’s work. Chances are that on any platform if you interact and are nice to people (reblogging, retweeting, sharing their work and commenting and such) they will check you out and interact back. I literally went from 0 followers to 700 in a year just because I interacted with people and talked about their stuff openly out of a place of genuine love for their work. Obviously wattpad is different from Twitter, and wattpad is more for writing than anything else, but you get the point.
Oh yeah I definitely agree with this point 100%. I think its something a lot of people struggle with, since getting out of your bubble is really difficult, but no one stands at the top of success as a lone wolf (or in MOST cases). Twitter is 100% the same way, if you take time to interact with people regularly who might draw the same stuff, you might look up to them, or you have something in common, odds are theyll notice you and check you out after they become familiar with you. This video was just 100% about the tags affecting your visibility, since twitters algorithm is really wonky and it changes quite often depending on new features and just however they are internally thinking it should be shaken up. It always bothers me when people say social media is up to luck. There is a percentage to luck and audience building, but its not something you can't push in your favour by putting in the time and effort to reach out.
It's as always in life:
Interact and things will vome together
I'm at 1.4k now btw.
@@gray7624 Niccce
I post a lot of drawings myself, and what I find is what *I* usually think will get tons of likes and retweets, I tend to overestimate.
The ones that are either requested or I didn't think would get as much attention, would get more likes and retweets.
Honestly, getting recognition on social media, as a whole, can be very fleeting(even though I appreciate people liking the drawings I post)....
Sometimes it's just better to create art and post it because you genuinely love doing art. It's not just for the sake of getting something in return.
Social media is a very tricky thing. Theres so many variables that go into it like posting to accomodate an algorithm, hopping on things like fanart trends or art memes, different styles might be more eye catching or catch more general of an audience, being consistent daily, maybe youre posting on the wrong days at the wrong time for traffick, networking and engaging with your audiences and even more stuff beyond that.
I definitely agree that its a good mentality to have "i draw for myself and im just sharing it" and thats really freeing. But a lot of people do seek the validation from seeing a newer piece out do their last one. Like yes im moving in the right direction.
Since making this video, I found the days that work well, so if im going to post a full and detailed piece I know the date/time itll hopefully be most effective but evem if its not ill keep retweeting it or bumping in replies. I also dont have issues with just posting wips or sketches. I kinda wanna make an art tip video maybe sometime in the future for exposure on social media.
That's if you don't wanna make a living out of it.
Came for the science and testing, stayed for the pep talk at the end.
Seriously though, thank you so much for doing this video. I now have some idea for how the system works and can now approach twitter with a different mind set other than feeding the void and getting discouraged lol
Im so glad this helped someone! I was actually considering taking this down a while ago since the majority of my channel is just silly video game stuff, but this was something I felt passionate about and wanted to see for myself. Im sure there is a lot missing from this in terms of real data analysis, but for something superficial like counting likes/retweets I felt like it was simple enough to get the point across. There are definitely factors, like maybe it stumbled upon someone with a large followings feed and they liked/retweeted it themselves, but I think that just reinforces the idea that retweeted/reposting your own art to help it get further and get seen by bigger audiences works!
As just some advice, posting art every single day is draining and unless you become some art god like Kim Jung Ji and can just draw beautiful images in mere minutes. Posting WIPs, even if its the same piece everyday just with a bit more work done on it, keeps you feed active along with reposting or retweeting your own art. Also if you happen to try and repost your artwork kind of like how I did, keep track of which days you get the most success. Those would be the days you'd wanna post something finished, and for me those days were typically Tues/Thurs and they continue to be my busiest days in terms of youtube/streaming/art (typically!!). Another important thing is that sometimes people will be drawn to you for your personality, so I definitely recommend making text posts or polls on days you don't really have much to share to interact with people. Ask questions, see their opinions on stuff you're interested in and stuff like that! Best of luck on your twitter adventure and I hope this helps it be a little more successful!
@@SorenSleepy Thank you so much, I really appreciate your reply and follow up advice. It means more than I can express in a youtube comment. I'm definitely going to keep on going at it, now with renewed spirit. Best of luck to you as well and I wish you all the best in your endeavors.
I’m glad I found this video I just started to be active in Twitter for my art and it’s really hard to get noticed 😭😭 thank you so much for the tips! 💞
Hope it helps! Best of luck on your twitter art journey!
I was also using hashtags so knowing this hurts hahaha thank you for the info tho
No problem! Just remember that proper usage of hashtags is not particularly a detriment to your own artwork. Im involved in the Final Fantasy XIV community so adding things that are relevant to those community tags would be beneficial to my artwork compared to something more general like #animeart or something similar since they are very generic and not something people will be looking for. But not tagging is also an option for your artwork since your text in the post will be a search result.
Why would twitter supress their own hashtag system ?
Thats absolutely bonkers...
Hashtags are considered links by the algorithm. Links are suppressed. The only time tags are valuable is when people are actively looking at the tag, like portfolio day, memes, new game or something similar.
Thank you for this video! I was so shocked that hashtags aren't helping at all! I am also using it too. I just reposted my arts just a second ago, removing all the hashtags and long captions I did lmao thank you! Hoping this will also work for me🖤
this is one of the things that i hate about the internet
big part of your fame is simply luck based
like what your art is SO GOOD you definitely deserve more but its hard when everything is just based on luck most of the time
Don't think of it luck based. There is a definitely a luck component, but there are things you can actively do to increase those chances. Be active, network etc.
Also artwork to be noticed on social media doesn't have to be good, it just has to be appealing which isn't the same. Lots of artwork on twitter is relatively underwhelming or very basic, but it can get a lot of likes just because it looks at a first glance pretty.
Good art isn't always the most appealing but it really depends on peoples view point. Some great artists don't know how to use social media and go unnnoticed, and some more amateurish artists know how to use social media so their artwork can go further in terms of likes/retweets/followers. Your social media appeal does not directly correspond to your skill as an artist.
We limit ourselves by the things we choose to show on social media instead of embracing it as a medium. Many artists use twitter as a gallery site, which it is definitely not. It is fine to post wips, process, repost the same piece of artwork multiple times if you don't have anything, and its not cheap or cheating to do so. Its working within your means against a system that is hungry for as much interaction as it can get from you, and you have to find ways to feed it without jeopardizing your own relationship with art to satisfy and algorithm.
@@SorenSleepy true
Yeah ive seen thousands of artists that have mediocre art but still get a lot of likes and attention simply because its trendy or relatable
I dont really interact that much on twitter or instagram so yeah its hard to grow
I also dont post that much but yeah i should post more things even if they feel irrelevant like wips for me
Im just that type of person who posts art and then close the app most of the time yknow. When i take a look at some big social media artists they always have a lot of tweets something that i dont really see myself doing but yeah i can try!
This is an interesting video! I hadn’t tried experimenting with the data like this so I appreciate you putting in that effort. Twitter recently changed again, at least that’s what everyone is saying , but no one is quite sure how, only that their engagement lowered. I wonder what they’re working on because they recently got rid of Fleets (which I never personally used but I heard helped a lot of artists get seen). I don’t make fan art so it’s kind of an uphill battle for me, but this is a good reminder that it’s okay to repost and rt my work, so thanks! Your art is really nice btw!!
Im sure since I uploaded this video almost a year ago the algorithm has definitely changed a lot! Its always good to repost/rt your stuff, im glad it could help you/remind you thats it is 100000000000% okay to do that! Best of luck in your uphill battle, the non fanart route is definitely an uphill battle but mad respect drawing your own characters, stories and world!
This is wonderful for small artists!! Thank you so much for your video!!🙌🤘
Thank you so much, SleepySoren! I took your advice and got my first 1,000 viewed tweet. Normally, I get 25 with no likes, so this is a great improvement!
can you list out what you did? cuz that'd be a big help
@@Madgamer4561 Yeah, sure! 1) I post my work first without tags. 2)The next day, I repost it with tags.
For days I know I will not get a lot of traffic, I'll post my work WITH tags and repost it the next day. Repost is key. I hoped that helped.
@@BataBata_Panda why tags on the repost?
@@Madgamer4561 Algorithm.
my art arent getting close to these numbers o-o
but my art isnt as good xd
It's ok if it is your style.
All those "overpolished" artworks bore md tbh.
Cute and simple I like.
Noted. I honestly don't know why I always thought I needed to create new art constantly just so I can have new art to post in order get engagement. I see the bigger artists I follow repost their old art quite a lot, like Andy Brase and Allen Williams (two of my favorites). I'm going to be reposting old art from now on as I work on new stuff because constantly forcing out new work every time can lead to burnout real quick.
Yeah, I'm better off showing of older art than just burning myself up 😭
As a fellow EST, I find this very knowledgeable! I screenshotted these tricks and will apply them. Thank you!
I tried this but for me, it makes no difference whether or not I put hashtags. Sometimes when I put hashtags it helps more actually :/
This is really good but has like way too many changing variables. Like how active the fandom is or recognizable the fandom is in people who don’t know it
Yeah this is very superficial information. But it was just to show whether the premise RJPalmer presented as true. And as far as I remember from the actual numbers from when I recorded it, ìt really didnt matter too much. Sometimes artwork did better or worse than its original counterpart with tags or not. Its not really conclusive because on the same hand, during this I was uploading a new piece everyday thus feeding the algorithm more yummy interactions. This was something silly I made and I didnt think itd get any traction but hmmm... i should make a follow up or something
@@SorenSleepy if you did you could try reposting original(oc and such) art every other day or every 3 days and seeing how it reacts with one less variable(previous knowledge of the material)
At least that’s what I think would get the least biased take on the tag system
@@chrome459 That is true, however I don't do much original artwork now a days. And I did this in October 2021 so I'm not really too motivated to start reposting + recording like I was back then. I could definitely be something you try out for yourself and see how it works out though!
I hate Twitter my god. I’ve been seeing way too many artist doing the opposite what Palmer has been saying and still thriving
What Palmer said isnt a instant "be successful on twitter" trick. There is a lot more to it than just not adding tags or adding tags.
I had tried this on a couple of different twitter accounts, literally every artwork I posted without hashtags got 0 likes, with hashtags at least 1 like minimum was guaranteed. Honestly I don't know what's wrong with it, I posted regularly and for a long time.
If youre only getting 1 - 0 likes, youre following is pretty small and somethong you might want to work on more than if your posts are seen with hashtags is networking with other artists around your skill level or in the same interests as you and trying to establish connections. Also using those art share threads people make on a daily basis to try and begin getting seen than just posting in your own space without leaving it.
@@SorenSleepy I guess I'll try that as well and see how it'll go
I just started using Twitter yesterday lol I’ve been searching up tips for how to post art there the algorithm is confusing
Amazing video! I wanted to ask a question (and sorry, because english is not my native language so maybe I didn't understand it) is reposting the art better then retweeting it? What if the original was posted already in a good time, with no hashtags or links? Should you reposting it again in some days or retweeting it works better?
You can do both and they are both effective!
Reposting is good if you don't have much to post at the time. Like if you're taking a break, working on something large, or not able to share what you're working on, just repost!
Retweeting is an anytime thing and you can really do it whenever. Its really up to your preference.
Theres no real rules I can think of for this, just experiment with what works and stick with it for your own personal growth.
This was useful af thanks for looking into this
No problem Im glad it was helpful! Best of luck in your endeavours!!
@@SorenSleepy thank you :))
Is there a reason twitter suppresses posts with hashtags? It seems kinda pointless to have hashtags if it hurts us
It considers them links and the algorithm actively surpressed tweets with links
@@SorenSleepy oooh thank you
I am a very small artist, both on twitter and instagram (about 8 followers on twitter and I have posted a lot), and I think that being so small, the use of hashtags should help me more than harm me (obviously not spam, some 3 is fine), because being so small, posting without hashtags is like posting to nothing, who could find me like this?
What do you think about this ?
It depends on what hashtags you're using which will ultimately decide how they help you or harm you. If you're using stuff like #digitalartist #artistontwitter #art incredibly generic tags you're harming your own success. If you're into like, Genshin impact and you're like #Xiao that will help you much more.
You need to remember that people aren't just searching hashtags, the search function on twitter will search for text inside of a tweet. So using a hashtag to be found via searching does not help you more than just writing it in plan text.
thanks for this video! just wondering if I still should throw away hashtag when I have no followers.
because of how twitter work, by logic, no one will ever see a tweet without hashtag from new accounts right
What I would recommend more than worrying about hashtags is 1) using correct hashtags and don't spam them. Be more specific and less general if you do choose to use hashtags and 2) make sure between your art posts you are being active in otherways. Unfortunately the algorithm can sometimes be hit or miss, nothing is 100% guaranteed to grow your audience, but talking to others artists, networking and being open to conversation/starting conversation will get you the best results. While my twitter isn't particularly huge, ive maintained steady growth since uploading this video. And while sometimes we can boom unexpectedly, the best we can really do it try to remain consistent as we can and expand our social network as much as possible to guarantee more success than hoping for it.
@@SorenSleepy Thank you!
Watch on 1.5x speed, you’re welcome
When it comes to hash tags, less is more. And specificity is key.
Yes definitely. However is also just something that isn't nessecary since twitter will auto search text from tweets. So unless its trending its typically not worth it.
Twitter is odd why penalize people for using hashtags?
LOL RIGHT THE SITE THAT MADE THEM PUNISHES YOU FOR USING THEM ITS SO INSANE.
thanks for looking into this
You're welcome!
This vid just appeared in suggestions. I see that it's been 3 years so it's pre-musk ownership @_@
do you think there's something to add up or a point that doesn't stand anymore? genuinely curious
I think the basis of what is in here might still help? Like hashtags don't really help you unless its trending. But really the best way to get exposure quickly is to buy the premium because you get boosted exposure. Everything else is just falling into social media norms (engaging, posting frequently, click/engagement baiting etc) its definitely outdated and twitter is changing everyday so id take it with a grain of salt and just do your best
Just wondering, if people are following topics, like the 2d animation topic, wouldn't #'s make your post appear on those topics? Or can they appear there without the #'s?
That is something im not particularly aware of. Id also like to bare in mind this video is going on 2 years old so some deets in here might be wrong or outdated. Things like following topics I don't believe we really a thing when I made this video but overall I don't think it has had an overall impact on twitter artists getting exposure. To also add to that, the topic categories don't always seem like they capture the correct stuff and they don't always seem like they need a # to be considered in a topic category.
Hashtags hurts post but what would be a good substitute so that the people we want to see can see it?
This is an incredibly late reply, but the best way for people you want to see your stuff to see it is to build and audience that is interested in your work or the subject matter/style/medium. It takes a long time. It takes a lot of interacting with other people and getting out of your own comfort zones.
Hashtags aren't always harmful, but using to many will definitely have a negative impact on your work. A lot of keeping up with social media stuff is using trends are a good boost. So if you see something trending, use those tags if its relevant to what you're posting. Use art share threads to get yourself out there and find other artists.
@@SorenSleepy lets say BTS is trending non stop, should i focus in making fan arts of them then using those trendy hashtags when posting the work?
@@mathiascronqvist6246 Yes - If drawing BTS artwork is your thing. Don't do it because you want to be seen, you won't captivate and audience doing that though. For a big example, I am HUGE into FFXIV. Its where most of my views on youtube come from, my twitter followers, hell I've made so many friends interacting in that community and it is MASSIVE. While its not a 1:1 comparison, FFXIV tags trend a lot in gaming, and participating actively in a community that brings you joy and you enjoy being apart of is going to make you someone who is compelling to people just looking for content.
If you're going to go the trendy route too, just make sure you're using the one or two trendy hashtag and don't bloat it with like #commission #digitalart #art #portrait no one is realistically looking for that and it looks messy in presentation.
Also the last thing about hashtag is don't only post them in - interact within them. You might find artists or other people who you think are cool and could potentially develop relationships with, be friend and learn from. Its a never ending battle, but just make sure you're not someone who is popping up once a month with art and has nothing else to offer than a picture with an overwritten caption and 5 random tags.
@@SorenSleepy t'was a long response, thank you for the enlightenment. never tried twitter before but i'll give it a shot. i mostly upload my works on deviant art and instagram. i poured my soul on my works but having only few likes and seens makes my motivation go low :'(
@@mathiascronqvist6246 Its a difficult dilemma. Its a good practice to see the value in your own artwork for yourself, but not everyone can have the same mentality. If you want to see a those numbers go up, you really need to engage on your platform of choice and network. However there is the problem a lot of people run into when they mention low likes and view impacting their motivation is that the number on your page or on your art might never be a number that satisfies you. Like right now maybe 10 likes will seem like a lot, but once you get 10 likes are a norm, its not going to seem as special. And its also a trap you can fall into. Its very important to have a good relationship with your art where it can bring you joy on its own and not trying to seek validation for your own unique contribution to the world through internet clicks we have no control over.
I get more likes on tumblr than twitter lol
im new to twt, is there a way to have art moots that also do digital fanarts?
Yeah of course its possible.
Twitter doesnt really list your mutuals outside of your following list though. So youd have to manage that yourself.
To find people to become mutuals with you just gotta interact and find art circles where the content youre producing fits.
can u give me ur twitter??? 🥺
Just put it in your name.
or make a tweet "looking for moots"
I see many ppl online that want to be moots.
My post get 0 impressions what do I do?
Network.
So all I need to do is just post my art without any hashtags and Then make it better seem like The opposite of what you should do
This isn't a magical one step process to getting your art have better traction. It just is one factor that can overall hurt or help your exposure on twitter. Making your art better, being more active, networking, and successfully building your audience will always be long, arduous processes. This is just one part of the whole ordeal.
@@SorenSleepy OK so just improve my art remember to upload somewhat consistently and engage with stuff that is popular and stuff I like I can do that
this is very useful information,,,, :) thank you verymuch :)
You're welcome!
nice work. very positive. i am adding you everywhere
By repost do you mean delete the original post then post it later? Or is it retweet?
Its whatever you're more comfortable with. Twitter isn't a gallery site. IF you just reupload a piece you did a month ago, its not really going to affect anything. If you want to delete the older upload then go for it, but its not really important in the grand scheme of things. You can also retweet old art as well.
So if you're a beginner at Twitter and don't use hashtags then how are we gonna gain followers first start?
Getting out of your own space and networking.
Hashtags on twitter and arent pushed. Your entire caption on your tweet shows up in the search. Go talk to people, make friends, network.
@@SorenSleepy I was about to delete my comment because i sound stupid but thank you so much for your response and help.
@@haruto_yuma_arts Just be aware right now the current twitter environment owned under Elon Musk is kind of a mess right now. But networking and getting out of your own space and interacting with others and making meaningful relationships is what will help you out on any platform.
So what got in this video is to not post any hashtags in your art post? What about the title do I keep it short? I just wanna make sure am getting this right
Okay so this video is getting to be 2 years old but its more to use relevant hashtags. So if something is trending at the moment, use the hashtag. If something isn't particularly popular, for example say you really like some obscure anime so you drew some character from it and no one even knows what it is yet cause it was never popular, then don't bother using a hashtag.
Keep captions short or long is more a personal choice. Is it long because you wanna be like "I spent 7 days and 7 nights slaving away at the details on her shirt and I think I could have done better but I figured this was good enough so I posted it" Then no, don't do that. Try and make your caption engaging. Ask a question, give a description of a scene, accompany it with some relevant words. You just don't want something incredibly boring, long winded.
Make sure to feed the algorithm and also post during active hours for the regions that look at your work.
wow thank you so much, it help me alot !!!!!
so do you agree or disagree with RJ's advice of not putting hashtags? this is pretty important to me so can you please clarify cuz in some parts of the video you seem to go against the advice but in the comments, you seem to be perfectly in line with his advice
I made this video about 2 years ago and I've neglected to make a follow up - I agree with his advice, but its not as clear cut as just saying "Don't use hashtags unless they're trending" There are dozens of other factors that go into your artwork succeeding than just using a hashtag or not.
@@SorenSleepy What made you change your mind? This test seemed pretty definitive tbh.
@@NoshuHyena this video was from like 2 years ago, I guess ill need to rewatch it to remember what definitive stance at the time I took. At some point I need to revisit the video and probably make some kind of follow up but im not really an art youtuber so its not high on my priority list.
However for an explanation -
Hashtags arent a definitive end all to the success of your artwork on twitter. Whether you use them or not you can have failure or success. Twitter wants engagement, twitter wants you to be active, the caption you include can draw people in, the subject matter of the drawing, how well your piece reads at a glance in terms of shape language/strong colours etc.
Proper tagging is just a small portion of a dozen factors that go into being somewhat successful on twitter.
Also id like to note, I dont use hashtags and if I do, its just a single one now usually for fanart of something popular.
@@SorenSleepy I... RUclips never notified me of your response. But here's an 8-month late thank you, and a sorry {: )
I'm sorry I'm so twitter ignorant, but how are you "adding" hashtags if you're not actually using hashtags? Are you just not using the # sign and writing the keyword in the tweet text? Are you replying to your tweet with hashtags?
You basically got it yeah. I'm not replying to my own tweets, just using specific keywords in the description without the #
So for example if I posted something and was like
Fanart of #TomNook from #ACNH ;
Those # will essentially create a link that will lower your visibility from the algorithm UNLESS the tag is a trending tag at the moment or active. If Animal Crossing is not really being talked about at the time, then you're hurting your own post. Though ACNH is pretty popular so it might not actually hurt you tooooo bad.
But something like
Fanart of Tom Nook from ACNH ;
That would, in most cases perform better since there are no hashtags to make the algorithm identify the hashtag as a link off of twitter.
You could alternatively add hashtags in your replies if you want too, I do not believe that would hurt your post. I personally do not do that though.
Also just a word of note; things like #animeart #digitalart #illustration, those like filler tags a lot of people use, they aren't good to use. No one search those vague terms. Be as specific as possible with your keywords or any hashtags you use if you choose to use them
Your twitter link is down. Nice video, thank you.
what are impressions?
The amount of times the tweet has been seen total from being scrolled passed on other peoples timelines.
@@SorenSleepy thanks
How do post a good clarity pic in twitter?
Upload PNGs and not JPGs at a standard desktop resolution. So like 1280x1080 minimum pixels in your canvas size.
i wonder if its still relevant since Elon bought twitter and from what i understood, we will need to pay 8 dollars to have chance :/
It is probably not still relevant with the current changing landscape on twitter.
What game is that?
Genshin impact
this gave me a headache
Good.
Did the original use hashtags?
Yes my original posts contained hashtags.
@@SorenSleepy what would u say about the tags thing? Is it better to use them or no? Bc it was just a hit or miss on whether the original or repost would do better.
@@xxbabypandaytxx4165 I think it really depends how you go about it. Theres a lot more information I should have obtained for this video that I didnt realize till after the fact. So the issue is a lot more complex than yes tags help or no they dont.
Theres a lot more nuance to the answer than yes or no because there are too many possibilities for tagging. If you tag with generic stuff like digitalart animeart people arent specifically looking for that so in that case your tags arent even helping as much as they could be. Same with too much tagging, it looks spammy. Using tags like "GuiltyGearStriveSol" or "Persona5Fanart" are much more specific and might suit your needs better. Something trending like PortfolioDay or ArtvsArtists or BoobMeme would have people looking for it more actively if you get on trends.
I think one thing that helps is doing something similar to what I did. Repost your work everyday and see which days are your best for posting and try to be as consistent and active on the platform on a daily basis as possible.
After doing this little experiment and thinking on this video for the last 6+ months I dont think tagging will hurt you unless you add to many tags or tags that arent specific enough for the audience you want to present your work too.
@@SorenSleepy okay, tysm!
Why is the gameplay blurry?
Well it is a video about art and not about Genshin impact!
🔴 Thanks but I like the yesterday.best simple to some of us who don't cheat hacks to get fans. 🔴 thanks bro.