Best HVAC Air Conditioner Brand To Buy
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- What is the best HVAC brand for an air conditioner and furnace? Are there some air conditioner brands that are better or are they all pretty much the same? In this video I explain why a person should not focus on the brand of an AC unit but instead just pick the one that is best deal, price-wise. The truth is that all HVAC brands are owned by a handful of big parent companies. Many of the furnaces and air conditioners those companies manufacture are almost entirely the same. The biggest change is the brand logo that is attached to the finished product... That's my take on it. Got a different opinion? Let me know in the comments below! :)
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I have over 30 years in the business and as a tech and I agree with you, Great Video.
So many comments about the proper installation being the most important. Please do a video explaining exactly what a proper installation requires. Thank you I love your fair and honest videos.
Been in the business 30 years.. Have no problem with anything in the video.. Pretty much agree with all of what you said.
Thank you! Glad to hear that a veteran tech approved this message! Your username makes it sound like you have worked on far too many attic units though ;)
Curious if either of you could offer words of advice. My ac unit is on the fritz and is 16 years old. My home warranty people are willing to cover the costs of the condenser and the air handler but not replacing the entire system. Is this a cost effective fix or should I consider going ahead and replacing the entire system?
@jessicaclayburg At 16 years old the Most Worn out part in the system will be the Evaporator which sits on top of the furnace / air handler. I don’t not know where you are in the world climate wise ( Mostly hot or cold climate ) So my point of view will be coming from a Mild climate in Southern California.
Outside Condensers - are designed to Last 12 Years if used every day.
Evaporators- are Designed to Last about the same. 10-20 years.
Furnace / Air Handler -
Furnaces - Last 10-20 years Depending on usage.
Air Handlers / only A Fan Blower unit - 10-20 years.
Copper tubing - Between the Condensing unit & Evaporator typically lasts about 30 - 40 Years.
Me - Business owner / Service tech for 40 yrs. refrigeration / Hvac.
@@OcRefrig Thank you for that. Im in the process of getting the air handler and condenser replaced. Waiting on parts. But I live in coastal Texas where we dont really get a winter. An AC is a must and people Iike you are our saviors. Lol
@@jessicaclayburg Make sure the Air Handler includes the Evaporator. They are separate parts and Most Likely Your issue is with the Evaporator & or Condenser Leaking refrigerant because of age and salt air.
I’m 15 years in the industry, the quality of the install nowadays with current systems are FAR more important than the brand.
Installation of the equipment is a very important factor. I don't care what manufacturer you go with, if the installation contractor is sub par then your equipment won't perform well. Facts!!
Much agreed!
I've always known that, but, how do you find a good installer?
Exactly!! And design AND maintenance!! 75% of units are oversized and 90% of homes ducts leak!
@@tyo5688 so how do you pick the right contractor?
Lyn Roberts get three estimates, if someone is checking the ducts for the proper size (air flow), doing a full heat load calculation (proper sizing), and AFTER ALL THAT, is stuck more on the PROPER INSTALL instead of a product, that’s who you go with
I got into the hvac/r business 45 years ago, and I agree with you 100 % !!!. back when I started, you "REPAIRED" everything, now everything is replaced with new equipment. new is not always better !!!!. the industry went from "OFF THE SHELF PARTS" that would go into any unit. now the parts are strictly for that brand, and do not interchange with other brands, like processors that are programed for that brand only. this is done for "COST" reasons, and the customer pays the price.
That’s what the automotive industry is trying to do
I know!!!!, the industry treats every thing as a big "MONEY GRAB", the auto industry included. you have to have a good" scan tool" just to see what your cars computer does not like, and then you have to know what the error codes mean!!!!
@@gregoryclemen1870 "the industry treats every thing as a big "MONEY GRAB"" i mean, that's just capitalism.
@@ThylineTheGay , knowledge is power!!!!, I agree with you 100%, no industry is going to build something that is going to last 50+ years, its more like 10 years, so they stay in business years down the road.
Also, evaporator coils were thicker and pure copper back in the older days, so more likely to go longer before having any pinhole problems. So yes, I argue that older units are actually better, so I would hang onto them as long as you can.
I have had 2 Lennox units in past 43 years. First one worked from 1976 to 2007 and second one was installed 2007 and still working, thanks for all you do for us. God bless you.
My Lennox just broke... Had been running since 1986.
I'm curious. What part broke exactly? Thx.@@slaffkas
You do the BEST job! Thank you. After my 10 year warranty, at 11 years, I had to fix my inducer fan/motor and this summer, the capacitor. The tech wanted to replace whole unit. You helped me save thousands!
You do the best videos, very informative. I was an HVAC tech 40 yrs ago and enjoy watching a current expert. Keep up the great work! I own a Trane 5 ton heat pump. I can't say it has turned out to be the quality I was hoping for.
Dude. I love your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Tom! Will try to do just that! ;)
Excellent !!! Exactly what I am looking for when comparing anything. Gives the Best & Worst, Who makes what, consumer reviews and most important factors in choosing.
Thanks Bunches !
I have had good service with Tranes. Installed two 20 seer units four years ago and zero problems.
My friend, you have a such great demeanor, great attitude, and knowledge in regard to the AC system. Thanks for the video, I hope you make more of them!
I had a new Lennox system installed two years ago. Runs smooth and quiet and always keeps a steady temperature, summer and winter. Had a 19V30 - iComfort S30 Thermostat installed with it. System can be controlled even if I'm in Europe. Very satisfied.
I'm in HVAC industry for long time and all I can say that You correct on everything You said in this video. Keep doing great work!!
Your video is greatly appreciated. With older units needing to be replaced this video provides premium information. Thank you.
I'm just trying to learn about air conditioning units. Your channel is amazing! Thank you so much.
New homeowner here, ended up getting a new system about 2 months ago, Goodman 2 stage 80% furnace and ac. I was given this guys information and was told he was trusted. Pretty much was saying the same thing you are and I'm glad I didn't insist on getting more bells and whistles! Works like a charm and didn't break the bank
I worked warranty for a large builder in an 1800 home development and they installed Trane and Carrier units. The Trane units never broke down and the Carrier units broke down constantly. The difference was night and day. Trane is a very reliable brand, as is American Standard.
Also, the Trane variable speed units and two-stage units are well rated for reliability and there is a big difference in energy savings. To go from a 14 Seer to and 18 Seer two-stage unit is around $2000.00 (I am installing the Trane XRV17 on my house next Wednesday and I did a ton of research. The two-stage XRV17 is and 18 seer unit and my AC contractor told me they are bullet proof. On my house, it did not make sense to upgrade to the variable speed Trane units. So the XRV17 is the perfect choice for me. The unit runs at 70% on low demand days and it will save me a ton of money during the summer here in AZ. PLUS there are energy rebates for this model from AZ utilities because it is so energy efficient. So it is the better choice for several reasons. The lower seer AC units do not get rebates.
Hello
You seem like a man who is knowledgeable and honest.
I usually choose the brands that have the best supply houses around. For a long time i pushed bryant, payne, carrier but once they closed down a few locations my warranty or oem parts took several days. Now i recommend Goodman i toured their factory in Houston and was impressed. Where i work i have 4 Goodman supply companies from JOHNSTONE too Goodman themselves i have a 1 to 2 day turnaround on anything from them and you cant beat that. I am 35 and got in to the trade early and got my nate and other certs by 2007 and license in 2008. I also tell the customers that honestly if it is installed by a good installer/tech then you will be fine. The best equipment installed by the worst installer becomes scrap.
Do you do work near the Houston area?
The RHEEM HVAC in my house is from 1980... And it just died this morning. RIP. 41 years is a long time for an AC unit to live.
sorry to hear of the death. Mine is that old. The new one won't last that long.
Hold onto it if you can, if it’s a refrigerant related issue, plan on replacing, if it’s a fan motor or blower motor, fix it. The new ones last 12-15 years tops, and that’s with the top brand such as rheem or trane
If it is possible to find an honest tech in your area, and not someone just interested in selling you a new unit, I would have it looked at because it could be something as simple as a capacitor. The new units are designed to last about 10-15 years max.
Our Rheem was installed in 2001 when our house was built. I just replaced the capacitor at the beginning of June (20 years). That's the only thing we've had to do to it. I change the filters regularly. I did notice that the condensor coils needed to be cleaned. I'll get to that when/if it stoops raining.
@@Pro1er I replaced both capacitors last year and it worked the entire season. I think the Freon has a very tiny leak. It seems to do well for the entire season if I can get someone out to service it. The problem is no one has it. They say I can switch out to the new stuff but the unit should be replaced... I run things forever. My truck is a 1990 and still runs like it's brand new.
Quality of INSTALL is/ has been the Most Important for any HVAC Longevity- Period!!!!~!
YES, yes!!! Stay out of that dirt zone!!!
As a 30 yr technician I agree about the brand and also the high efficiency units. I just replaced my 19 year old unit and installed a 14 seer unit and went with the brand I could get parts for the easiest in my area
That's something that's more important today then ever. A vehicle is nothing more than a lawn ornament if you can't order the chip needed to make it run, and that goes for AC units also.
I just like to say thank you for your Channel I'm a homeowner now I've learned how to do a few job to save myself a few dollars on my heating and cooling system I just like to say thanks keep the videos coming out i really enjoyed it thanks Mike..
Best teacher I have even seen on RUclips! Every detail is crystal clear! Thank you so very much!
2 years ago we replaced 2 19 year old Goodmans with 20 seer lennox variable speed. The original Goodmans were installed wrong, the 5 ton had a 3 ton return for example. We also dropped the 5 ton to a 4 and the 3 1/2 to a 3. When it was 118 degrees outside they could still pull the temp inside down. Our annual KW usage with the Goodmans was 24,000 with the Lennox it dropped to 16,000 and our avg monthly electric bill dropped from $290 to $169. Even if repair cost is higher, they are still well worth it in the better climate control inside. No more hot cold spots or temperature fluctuations. They are also very quiet, you can stand between them and carry on a conversation, the Goodmans rattled the walls. I'm a firm beliver in the newer AC's and Lennox now. Now let's hope I'm still singing their praises at the >10 year mark when the waranty is up.
Thank you for that honest review they're hard to come by these days awesome job and looking forward two more videos thank you
I'm just a homeowner that has a Lennox Heat pump system with a furnace and I'm happy that the Lennox brand is in the top 5 acceptable heat pump brands out there. Thanks for putting this up.
Great videos, this guy NAILS our experience with high efficiency carrier furnace which lasted less than the variable speed carrier heat pump it replaced
My mothers 10 Seer 1992 Home Air by York Central AC. It’s still running at 31 years of age. Now you can’t beat that today!
I have a Rheem Scroll Compressor that is now 31 years old. I have done all of the repairs on it myself except for having some refrigerant added recently. It has been a very reliable unit for me.
Had aRheem last 32 yrs
Hi I am a air conditioning technician for more than 10 years. I have seen all brands fail at different times Mostly depends on customers temperature settings and maintenance. Obviously the lower temperatures cause the unit to run longer and harder causing earlier failures. I personally have Goodman systems and love the quality and price. Most of the motors are the same as well as the compressor are Copeland compressors. I feel the quality of Install is a huge difference than the brand. Thanks
I agree with about 85% of what you said but specifically because I’m a technician myself. I’m actually planning on replacing my heat pump pretty soon and exactly what you talked about Carrier, Bryant, and Payne how they are the exact same. I’m going with the Payne 2 stage Compressor, and if anything fails I have the capability to repair it myself and upfront it’s a lot cheaper but same quality as the higher brands.
Jay I can't thank you enough for all the good tips for all the knowledge you share, how detail you describe and teach how to ping point the problem I just started in the HVAC business as an installer and I learn so much with you obviously experience is much needed it
THANK YOU
Great video! Also one thing I think was left out of this video but is also important when buying a unit is serviceability. For that reason I'm a fan of Rheem and ruud. I think the new design is easy to maintenance and repair.
this was the MOST useful video on HVAC i have seen!
100% agree!!
Really well done video from something I found randomly by accident after just having a new Armstrong unit put in yesterday, about $7K for an 80% efficient furnace and a 13 SEER 2.5 ton A/C unit. Looks and runs great, so the first 24 hours are in the bag. We replaced a 41 year GE furnace and 36 year old Lennox ac unit. Hope it goes half as long.
I started to look into buying an ac unit and this channel is the best at explaining the industry and overall tips.
I own a small HVAC business and I’m a Heil dealer. I agree with almost every single thing in this video especially about how to choose a unit specifically avoiding high efficient, variable speed, and two stage, because of more problems.
Why avoid a high efficient and variable speed unit? I know people who have these type of units and have seen a dramatic change in their electric and gas bill.
Brooke Bailey good question and good point. Well variable speed and high-efficient units will save the customer money on their monthly utility bill but the initial install of the equipment will be much more costly if they are upgrading from an 80% furnace up to for example a 95% furnace. New flu and intake pipes would have to be installed and because the furnaces are condensing over the years it’s possible that maintenance and repairs will be much more expensive and more frequent. And as far as the variable speed motors go, they usually don’t need to be replaced but their modules do and it is still a more expensive replacement than putting in a standard PSC motor. As time goes on variable speed motors will be easier and cheaper to replace im assuming though.
Icp (tempstar, keeprite, heil, and Payne,etc) made all their heat exchangers out of stainless steel until United technologies took over. UT made the primary heat exchanger out of aluminized steel since there is no condensation in that part. And left the secondary built from stainless for corrosion protection. Up in cold Canada, two stage high efficient is the way to go. Heating is "better matched" to the heatloss of the building making it cycle less( and also quieter). I have a 17 year old heil with has caused no issues for us even with minimal maintenance. Carrier has a secondary heat exchanger that is mild steel lined with a polymer coating to protect it from corrosion, but it has broken down and then the steel fails from the condensation eating away at it. They've had this issue for years and left it. I have replaced a number of those with heil and the customers are happy
Hi Jay
I have a Trane central a/c unit that is 28 years old. I just replaced the condenser fan motor and it’s still going strong. Thank you for your video. John 3:3
@Mark Elrod - 28 years (now 30 in 2021?!) - WOW!! Our two 17 year old Lennox units are on their last legs and I thought that was a good run. Just got quoted $26K for replacement units - One 3 ton and one 2.5 ton - both Lennox. That seems exorbitant so I’m after more bids. To what do you owe the success you’ve had with Trane? Do you do periodic, preventive maintenance? Thanks.
Amen
I believe the most important part of it is finding an installer who does quality work.
Yep, excellent recommendation, the more simple the unit, the more reliable and longer it will last.
BEST VIDEO I HAVE SEEN SO FAR IN THE LAST 3 DAYS LOOKING FOR A CLEAR REVIEW OF HVAC UNITS.
Glad to hear the video helped paint a clearer picture for you. Thank you for leaving a comment!
A few updates for the next video. Carrier is now separate from UTC. Ingersoll Rand no longer owns Trane and American Standard - those are now under Trane Technologies. And Oxbox is a new brand in the market under Trane Technologies.
Thank you for sharing your information. Good to know.
RunTru by Trane..
is carrier a good reliable brand as of now?
@@magrittedeau depend how much you want to pay.
12,000 to 20,000 can you afford that? lol
Thank you for the video. It's helping me in my research process. I wish you have another video of what to look for when choosing: ductless/BTU/SEER ..
This guy appears pretty trustworthy after watching several of his videos. It's not about making quick $ like some HVAC companies are interested in. It's about building trust that will make $ in the long run.
Very good review. I am replacing my Lennox AC and furnace this week after 33 years. I had each one serviced once in their lifetime.
The house i bought has Goodman in it. I order oem parts from Repair Clinic. I needed new gaskets on the high efficient gas furnace, was dripping a little water. A local supplier wanted $100, plus labor. Repair Clinic charged me $7. Was easy to change.
Hello, I also have a Goodman / Janitrol 92% eff. furnace and A/C.. (cost was $2800, wow) was installed in 1996 and have absolutely zero problems with the system. Must have been an excellent installer. So that is 25 years ago. AC and Furnace still working well, never even needed a top off to the R22 in the A/C compressor. And I do check and replace the filters regularly plus keep the air return ducts clean and outside unit clean and clear of debris.
Is Goodman a reliable/value furnace/air conditioner
@@dereksans5040 Most trades people push other makes. You see, you and i can buy OEM parts for Goodman from repair clinic . com. At very cheap prices, so if you are a bit handy, can save on repairs down the road. Some other units may be better, but will cost more. Maybe an important thing is choose a reliable hvac outfit.
@@ablam8 just bought a house on March 30th and found the hvac system is 1995 so might need a new system shortly. It's a Baird system and still heats fairly well although I have no idea about the ac. Just trying to get some options value vs reliability vs price.
@@gsallison1 - If possibly, try & re-tape the duct joints. Try to find the highest quality too. Just saying.
Thank you! When attempting to research furnaces, there are a lot of “Best Brands” lists and they’re all completely different.
Jay, even before i watch the video, i wanna say thanks for your channel, its always common sense information.
I still have a Rheem with Scroll compressor and 90 plus furnace that was installed in 1995 and still going strong today. Only issue was condenser fan motor 2 years ago.
I'm looking at new units right now, whatever I get I want to have a scroll compressor. I'm eyeing Heil, Ruud/ Rheem, Lennox
I like your outlook
I tell my customers about variable speed motors and educate them on the problems
They have down the road
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Thank you for the meaningful and informative content. Very much appreciated.
I'm in the camp with Greg...in a haze trying to make this decision. You certainly cleared some things up for me as far as Brand and the high-efficiency thing I was CLEARLY considering.
Awesome video! Getting a new HVAC and great info! Thanks so much!
I've replaced my Carrier Heat Pump with a ton of problems with a Trane high-efficiency natural gas system with A/C in 1992, we are still running that system. We, ve had two problems in 28 years, the furnace hot surface ignitor opened up and last year the A/C compressor starting relay coil opened up. I definitely would put another Trane system in my house.
This video was very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to explain.
I have a 3 ton 1995 Tempstar condenser that blew cold air until 2020. The fan still works. It doesn't look like it was ever serviced until I cleaned the outside of it this spring of 2021. I think this is a really good brand since it has lasted so long.
This is the best, very best explanation I have seen. Few things make it great. Every article in the Internet is written by HVAC professionals and they have to run a business. So almost always they will sing praises for variable speed, multi-stage units and labor (the most important point for them) and parts (markup) is for those units substantially higher. Effectively, the % difference HO incurred due to energy savings goes out of the window when these units break. Almost also guaranteed they WILL fail 200% earlier to standard 80% single-stage furnaces or single-stage AC compressors with single stage fan. And yes - as rightly said the % difference is usually 4 times for single to variable OR single to multi-stage compressors.
Where he should have spent a little more effort is when initially he speaks about the brands. Whether someone goes for top-of-the-line Trane/American Standard/Carrier/Lennox it doesn't really matter unless your installer is really good. He briefly stated it, things like levelling, air balancing, performing the correct commissioning of the AC to ensure everything matches manufacturer's recommendations, making sure to buy a properly matched system is 100 times more important than brand. Putting it in a different perspective in the same home 1 installer does a hack install, i.e. quick replace and leave a Carrier unit and another installer spends 2 days installing a Arcoaire/Heil unit almost guaranteed the 2nd. unit will outlast the 1st.
Due to regulations all blowers are now having ECM motors which are substantially costlier. So no bypassing that. But what many don't realize these motors are built very robust but still per-maturely fail and get a bad rep. The issue however is not in the brand or the motor but in the underlying duct work of the home. Home-owners blindly think they are getting a terrific thing due to the sales pitch by the HVAC guy and throw their hard-earned money into this unit assuming it'll give them tremendous comfort. But the way an ECM motor operates is that it'll try to maintain the same volume of air no matter what. Now most houses have under-sized ducts especially if these homes have pre-1980 duct-work. The same motor will now need to work twice or thrice harder as a result. Throw in the fact that an average HO hardly ever cleans air filters on time or buy the correct air filters! [A note on air filters: these filters are designed to protect the blower and not the HO. So the big orange store selling a MERV 13 filter which captures viruses is great but causes severe degradation of air flow called static air pressure which is especially harmful to this new breed of ECM blower motors. The earlier ones PSC motors were much more forgiving]. It's just how these motors work. What gives? The life of the motor! I know its a lot of money but unless proper air balancing is done and found adequate, no one, repeat no one should purchase these variable speed blowers - as its just a recipe for failure, both in costs and expectations. Contrary to who says what these variable speed blowers, modulating gas furnaces, multi-stage compressors are meant to give better COMFORT not more savings. The COMFORT is directly proportional to the duct and air. Like humidity controls, CFM of air leaving the vents, etc. If the underlying duct work is bad NONE of these comforts an home owner will see and the unit will pre-maturely fail again something which the HVAC guy would love it to happen!
Thx
Thank you for this information. So important to note. About to purchase new unit. Had leaned against ECM. By Your description seems like we may not have a choice. Thank you anyway for making us aware of this important information
Well put together video. I have a Goodman it’s lasted about 14 years and needed a new capacitor a couple of times
I have had a Day and Night going on 27 years and I bought it because my old one was Day and Night so the new one fit where the old one was. This unit has mostly been trouble free. It still has no wiring problems, I am on the original dual compressor capacitor, and motors run without issues. I do keep it clean where I can manage that aspect of care. I have zoning and that has been the only real issue as the computer board failed and was expensive to replace (3 years ago). I considered getting a whole new unit, but decided to keep the one I have. I am glad I did.
Thanks for info. I have a Carrier air conditioner unit since 1997. It has been very reliable. Only thing since installed was a capacitor replaced and freon topped up. I backwash coil every year and change furnace filters on a regular basis. Very good system. Thanks again for info. Take care
Great info. Have watched three or four of your videos so far and really enjoy the way you explain things. Thanks for posting and helping us understand how a/c operates, and even better. Helping us to either repair or save a few bucks on ours! Keep up the good job.
wow ,very informative video as usual, thanks for all this valuable info!
Had a Lennox heat pump that ran flawlessly for 8 years. Just got a new Bryant 80% 2-stage furnace with A/C; loving it so far.
I went through this issue with our last house, which was built in 1995. The HVAC system that came with the house never cooled the upstairs as well as it should have, less so as time went on. A family friend retired HAVC guy came out to look at it and said the unit was undersized for the house. I don't know if the builder had spec'ed out undersized units to save a few bucks and screwed the buyers in the process or the subcontractor had gotten away with installing undersized equipment and screwed the builder, but the end result was the same. It was a lesson learned on my part. Anyway, the HVAC guy recommended a ton more capacity when the time came that we were ready to chuck the old system and upgrade. That time came in 2015 when the unit developed a leak and was not cooling at all. There was no point in putting money into an 18 year-old undersized system, so it was time to upgrade.
Heeding advice I found online, I got three estimates - a big local HVAC dealer, a small local dealer, and an independent. The first two were apparently locked into certain equipment brands, which didn't give us a lot of choice. The big dealer was also very slick, like a "turn 'em and burn 'em" car dealer. The smaller dealer was a little better. As opposed to the big dealer, the guy who did the estimate was actually the same guy who would do the work, but they were also apparently locked into certain brands only. That gave us little choice. We ended up going with an independent and choosing our own equipment.
All three also recommended replacing the air handler and builder-grade gas furnace that came with the house as it was all 20 years old, and trying to keep the 1990's era stuff would greatly limit our options. We followed that advice and ended up with a ton larger 16 seer AC, HE gas furnace, variable speed blower, and wifi controller. The difference in performance between the old and new system was night and day, and we got the whole thing done for less than what the dealers were quoting for just R&R'ing the outside unit with a basic unit only and not touching the rest of the system.
In doing the research to pick the equipment, I learned what's talked about in this video - like most consumer goods such as kitchen appliances, lawn mowers, auto parts, bicycles, etc etc, there are only a few big companies that make all of the brands, so don't get too hung up on labels. We ended up buying Goodman equipment and were still very happy with the new system when we sold the house and downsized in late 2017.
We're now at the point of having to decide whether to fix the AC in our current 2003-built house or replace/update the system, and I'm once again doing the research. Based on my experience with our earlier house and seeing countless "What brand is best?" threads about all types of consumer goods over the years, the info in this video is accurate and important but little understood by the average consumer. I have seen many online arguments over which of two or more brands is "better" devolve into purse swinging and name calling when, unbeknownst to the combatants, those brands are actually made by the same company, likely in the same factory.
Thanks for the excellent information. Maybe a part 2 "finding a reputable installer" is in order.
I have two Trane units SEER 13 and they were installed in 1995. I'm on borrowed time and live in Florida but as long as they keep going fine with me!
I have two Anderson Air ac units made by Lennox. They were installed in 1989. Today is September 2020. Still running strong. R22. No leaks, minor repairs over the last 10 years we have been at the house. A fan or two, rotted pan, but still going strong. Also, my oil fired is a peerless with Wayne burner. Also 1989. A few controllers and transformers over the last ten, but still going strong. About 4000 sq feet home
I have been installing HVAC residential for 38 years and the Goodman line makes the most money and least repairs as long as people change air filters and wash their AC unit regularly. You can get 30 years out of a Goodman system.
I also did not braze my new line-set upon install, but used Staybrite #8 solder. As an aircraft mechanic, I find that Staybrite brings the same strength as brazing, without annealing the pipes, or causing oxides, thus, not needing to flow nitrogen in the lines. The connections also remain removable for future work. A single stage compressor, and PSC motor blower will outlast all the multiple stage and ECM motors out there (in my opinion).
This video is good I got my 1995 Bryant air conditioner replaced last week and we choose carrier and the air conditioner is running very well thanks for the help really appreciate it!
How the tech-installer doing??? is he still on the top of your worth list???
Nothing better than a York with mini channel. You won’t be the only one passing gas
I agree with your 2 choices. 18 years in the Trade, I found that those 2 are the best. However, the installation is more important than the brand. A well installed Goodman system, can go farther than a poorly inatalled Lennox.
This is what I need to hear. But how do you know the quality of installation? Unless you are a tech yourself.
@@sacdigitaldesignweb Investigate the company... See their track record, read reviews, good and bad.
But, at the end of the day, even good companies have poor technicians..
Ask tons of questions, and get it all in writing. If they do a checklist post installation, that is a good thing.
And what brands would you avoid, personally?
Strongly agree. Bought a new house which had a Goodman. Evaporator core failed in 7 years. Why? Poor installation. It didn't drain condensate properly. Find a trusted HVAC guy and listen to them. My downstairs RUUD compressor on my current house recently failed due to the brutal Texas temps right now. (is 18 years old) HVAC guy had a capacitor on his truck (part availability) that got it working for now. Replacement of AC unit tomorrow. It's just time. Will be a RUUD as that is what the HVAC guy installs.
@@sealteam818cw hey um, i got a bauer ac but cant find the site for their stuff
Thank you Jay nice video we install Goodman 4 years parts are easy and accessible and not extremely expensive a good install and these machines run and run and run
Thank you so much. This was informative and helpful. Time to replace our 48 year old Bryant furnace and AC. Was very reliable in the Chicago area
Been in our house since 1974 and had two Amana units. Only problem we had was the condenser motors going out. We’ve had a Goodman unit since 2009 and replaced the condenser motor, condenser coil and compressor. Luckily It was all done on warranty. The first unit was a little two and half ton and never replaced any parts on it. I guess they don’t make them like they used. We have package units and we usually keep them for about 18 years and since power is expensive in our area we upgrade to more efficient units. Thanks for a very informative and great video.
Thank you for this very informative video! We’re looking for a new unit and this has helped my research a lot.
Peggy - - Please take the time to research. 1st - Talk on the phone without buying. Remember if something goes wrong then this is the person you'll be arguing with. 2nd - Go to their place of business too. Their work place should tell you something? A clean place says something. Keep in mind that, usually, you will not get any references like in the old days. Just saying. As for me I took a few years to decide.
You are so right about the install work. I had my home built and the A/C guy installed a Rheem, not complaining about the brand. Well the A/C guy cut a hole in the wall for the return air what he didn't do was plug up the hole he made in the wall which leads to the attic. My Rheem basically worked itself to death. For 10 years it was sucking up the hot air from the attic and would not shut off for hours, I live in deep south Texas and I don't have to tell you how hot the attic can get.
Moved into our retirement home in Merritt Island, FL and discovered the same as you after the 1st year. Contractors from 1988 in Space Coast were apparently on drugs and HVAC accountability by Brevard County inspectors was hit and miss depending on emotional zone!
ACTUALLY, IT'S LIKE HOW BOTH PARTIES OF CONGRESS OPERATES TODAY UNDER BRANDON. POLICIES MATTER, AS TRUMP SHOWED IN RESULTS THAT NANCY PELOSI TORE UP AFTER TRUMP'S 2019 SOTU ADDRESS.
I agree for the most part, though there were a few points that I would want to tweak.
When you say go with the "cheapest", that would be equipment cost alone. Be very skeptical of low bids. A good quality install will cost more and will be the difference between needing a new system in 10-12 years and 20+ years.
Regarding variable speed: while a variable speed blower is expensive, the ability for them to ramp up and down to deliver consistent airflow helps preserve the life of a furnace heat exchanger. I'd rather have to replace a variable speed blower after 12-15 years, than replace the heat exchanger or entire furnace.
Above all else: CHANGE YOUR FILTER. I cannot stress this enough. If you want your system to last, keep your filters changed or clean.
Love the video, all 100% accurate. I relate HVAC to automobiles, easier to understand for the common person not familiar with HVAC. Doesn't matter if you buy a BMW, if you don't get routine maintenance, change oil, filters, etc, you will have issues, and when you do, good luck finding parts, and good luck on how much they will cost. If some random mechanic worked on your BMW, he would screw it up, you take it to a BMW dealer or certified repair guy. Same thing with HVAC brands- Its all about who installs it, how they install it, and how the homeowner maintains it (preventative maintenance!)
Great video and straight to the point!!
Rheem lasted 20 yrs before I replaced it. I have a friend who just replaced a 4 year old Lennox. I think the most important thing is not the unit but the installation.
Your input is greatly appreciated. I will chose GOODMAN as a replacement for my unit when time comes, I choose that brand because they are not that expensive and more important parts are available every where in the internet, AC supply stores etc. You are a tech and have your license so they will sell you original parts ( like RUDD and others) but people like me, no license, they will not. I love to fix my own things. I have an air handler that was built in 1972 by a company named "PT Electric Products Man. Corp. of Dallas TX" ???, the original fan motor was a 1/6 HP 8.5 A. When I purchased this condo the fan motor running was 1/6 HP 5.6 A. Five months ago, I replaced that motor with a 1/4 HP with a running capacitor and uses only 2 A ( more power less consumption) at the same time I replaced the fan wheel, It has the same evaporator coil since 1972 (I keep it very clean), only the pan is getting some rust now. Also I replaced the fan relay (common part), 24 V ac transformer (not because it was bad, but because it has been connected to 120 AC since 1972, for 48 years), rebuilt the heating unit replaced 6KW heating coil, thermal fuse, hi limit switch. System ready for 10 more years of service or when my 2003 RUDD condensing unit quits. There is no reason to change the 2003 RUDD unit because the Capacitor or Contactor fail, because those are common parts, they will need to be replaced to ALL units sooner or later. Than you. I enjoy your videos.
@GEORGE QUINTAS - very impressive!!
AMEN! I just replaced my 32 year old Lennox Pulse furnace and heat pump in May. Repair costs over the years I would estimate to be under $2000. I had to replace the blower motor last winter and decided it was time to replace the system since they stopped making parts for the furnace quite a few years ago. The HVAC company I use now had told me not to worry. They said in an emergency situation they could come and replace it in one day. Another good company told me the same thing.
Great video! Thank you for all the useful advice 👍🏽👍🏽
Good info
I’ve been saying this about units for a while
But unfortunately people really get sold on efficiency
my man getting to the point thank you
What point? Buy the least expensive unit like he says at first? Or buy a Trane or Lennox like he said he would do if he had to replace his unit?
Fairly short and to the point. I had to bookmark this video. Thank you!
Thanks so much this answered all my questions.
Fantastic video! Thank you so much!
Thanks Douglas! Glad you liked the video!
We had an Amana which had a lot of problems. Also had a relative with the same brand and just made it to end of warranty. Great info/video, thanks.
Who me worry!!!
Planned obsolete!
Yes!
Great commentary..Everything you said is spot on!!
great presentation. I put in a Lennox 4 yrs ago. Air handler coil has to be replaced. My AC guys said they no longer install Lennox because this failure was so common. Lennox please take note and save the reputation of a once great brand.
Rheem is one of the best. Made near where I live, at least a plantvin Ft. Smith, Ar. I am told by a major installer in this area that they refuse to putbin any more Lennox. The company changed manufacturing practices. Thin metal coils, leak and are that way on delivery. Constant calls on the brand and the company doesnt care. They changed due to increasing efficiency. Used to be onevof the best. Carrier has been a very good one for me. 20 yrs and only a capacitor changed and a bit of r22. Runs constantly and has been reliable.
I have a 20yr old Bryant unit that still runs like a clock. I change furnace filter and hose down the outdoor condenser coil occasionally. No other maintenance is or has been done. The only part that failed was the dual capacitor last summer. Never had a manifold gauge on it since the first day it was installed and air coming out of vents is still 52°. Very reliable
I've had (almost) same exact experience with my Bryant. Mine was installed in 2005 and is still going strong after only replacing the capacitor once myself, changing the furnace filter every few months or so, and occasionally washing down the outdoor condenser once or twice a year with soft water. Still runs like a champ during our hot Utah summers.
Thanks man, this really helps.
Being a homeowner and dealing with multiple bad Lennox coils recently I’ve learned that Lennox coils will fill after 2 to 3 years they will get leaks. I’m hearing the coils are way heavier and have a 10 year warranty the metal is heavier so it’s less prone to leaks