REALLY?! Where can I read it?? EDIT: YOU CAN READ IT ON TUMBLR AND THEY ALREADY HAVE 50+ EPISODES IN AND A BETTER LGBT REP AND 100% BETTER STORY THAN TRASH LO
If there's no ridiculous age gap and persephone isn't this naive sexualized character and demeter isn't demonized then I might read it. Are those things true?
@@kitsuujujitsuu4025 yeah, Persephone isn’t a child she’s is a ageless god like the others, cause like her original myth, she is simply the child of Demeter, not 18, and she isn’t naive sexualized character, she is her own character, as for Demeter I haven’t read that far so idk if they got to her but so far nothing here has the blatant issues the original had
@ImVeryWholesome well that's relieving to hear! I'm definitely most bothered by the issues with Persephone's character, so im glad at least those two things are fixed. Ik a lot of people on tumblr hate the og comic and the demeter thing is one of the biggest reasons why, so im willing to trust that she was fixed in the rekindled story. I'll take a look at it
Still going through the vid but your frustrations with how Persephone is not allowed to have any real flaws is so on point. I never really realized it but yea, I think taking away her agency and fault in the mortal deaths and trying to make it look like they had it coming by creating a very forced circumstance of them disrespecting her was the jumped shark for me too. There are also other moments when she interacts with nymphs or other non-god creatures in which they have plenty good reason to dislike or distance themselves from her when she acts in a petty manner towards them but it's treated as her being badass and standing up for herself?
In the myths, Hera, Apollo and Poseidon tried to overthrow Zeus. Apollo was punished by being turned mortal for 10 years (and in the mortal world, he fell in love with a man called Admetus and helped Admetus impress a woman called Alcestis after they broke up). I heard that Persephone gets turned mortal for 10 years in this - are they giving Apollo’s backstory to Persephone?
@@sharonfarge7743 yeah. I heard that the comic completely erased Apollo’s bisexuality, is that true? Coupled with the fact that out of every god, Smythe made him be the one to assault Persephone, when he has nothing to do with her in the myths… it seems very harmful to me. I don’t want to invalidate anyone who felt seen by the story and I know this is an important topic that needs to be discussed. I just don’t understand why Smythe went about it the way she did.
You are hitting every point on the head. I stopped reading Lore Olympus seriously after the third or fourth sleep dive, and like you, I have been having issues with the series since the trial arc. The plot holes; poor character development; everything involving making Cronos a main villain because now we have three main villains with Apollo, Uranus, and Cronos.🙄 (It sucks because I used to fast past every episode but now I dont think its worth it). Everything has just become so shallow. Persephone is ALWAYS the victim and misunderstood and she is never allowed to develop past her cinnamon roll persona unless it is sexy to Hades (like when she released animals in that water nymphs house). I have also noticed a drop in quality for her character designs. They used to be unique and very distinguished even though they has simple colors but now they all have the same body type. For example, Persephone is very petite and big breasted while Aphrodite, Hera,Mynth and Amphitrite were average height and had their own features. Now, all of the wives of the big three (Zues, Poseidon, and Hades) are tiny and big boobed and Mynth, who was tall, skinny and small breasted has big boobs now. I think the biggest problem with the series is that Rachel only seems to care about Persephone and Hades and she sacrifices the story to always make them look good. All the other characters have their arcs or quirks stripped away so that Persephone can end up being the hero. Zeus, Eros, Poseidon, Hades, these are heavy hitters in the Greek pantheon and Rachel does a lot to make them weak or irrelevant like locking Eros in a dungeon (even though it made more sense for Eros just to kill Cassandra and then have Persophone find her shade in the underworld for questioning); constantly putting Hades (and now Zeus) in some sleep coma deep dive b.s; and simply forgetting Poseidon exists. I feel like the story was never meant to be this long and I think Rachel is getting burnt out with it. She clearly loves to draw Hades and Persephone so I think she might be better suited for a light slice of life comic with low stakes and snap shots of Hades and Perephones life rather than a serialized comic. Rachel said on Instagram that she is ending the series in May so I am going to finish the story, but I wont be paying coins for it anymore.
I thought it was ending in Nov. 2024. I just started reading "Lore Olympus" and got caught up, as of last week. As much as I liked the series, I agree with your points.
Funnily enough i would rather say that Rachel cares only about Persephone and Hera because after re-reading comic i realised that Hades doesn't actually have a character arc. His and Minthe relationships ended only because Persephone turned her into plant and Hades not only didn't learnt anything from it he also just acts like Minthe doesn't existed. Kronos arc was given entirely to S3 Hera and S2 Persephone despite Kronos being teased at first not only as abusive father to Hades but the main person he got insecurities and traumas from. But yeah overall LO works atrociously bad with it's character and arcs, i agree with your comment. This comic wasn't planned at all!
I dissagree. I came into the game very late, as I avoided this webtoon in the beggining. So, when I fell in love with it, it was around 1-2 years only before these things started happening and I dexided to drrop cuz I just couldn't do it anymore. I did love it before. But then it just lost its luster
@@mclaraamorimblood it depends. A lot of ppl say the same thing for Star vs the forces of evil and Miraculous Ladybug. But the problems that plagued the portions of the story that were “bad”, were pretty apparent in the early episodes of the series. Some people don’t improve writing as they go on. The issues that were there will often get worse. This could very well be another one of those situations. Heck, it’s highly likely those issues were always there and ppl just didn’t notice.
That battle with kronos was so cringe and weird developed I lost interest after it. Forgot about it until yeaterday and decided to type lore olympus to see how it was holding with critics on yt. Not surprised. I, like you, loved it at the start. It got me through the pandemic. This comic really needed a story consultant to help to go through some stories in a more consistent way.
Literally thats when i decided to stop i wasn’t feeling it for a while bc they kept dragging it but after that i was like hurry up marry them and wrap it up 💀
I’m honestly just reading it as a quirky regular romance, I’m actually not even taking in part the whole “Greek mythology “ bc it isn’t even following it.
This is the appropriate way to take LO in, in my opinion. It’s clearly trying to be a self indulgent romance ahead of being some sort of deep and accurate portrayal of Greek mythology. And people who expect it to be are unrealistic, particularly because adaptions usually aren’t accurate and LO clearly never was one to begin with.
I think I gave up right after the rushed wedding. I tried, I really did. I was a huge fan but you could tell Rachel wanted it to be over but didn’t know how to hit all the beats. We went from a slow burn to bam bam bam. Huge pacing issues. Nothing seemed satisfying or earned
I stopped reading it after maybe twenty chapters? Simply because it did get weird and it wasn't following greek mythos and people were saying it was accurate lol. The art is pretty though.
I mean, greek myths are ALREADY weird (starting with inc3st and ending in zooph1lia) but that was fantasy for us. The author mixed myth (in the sense of unreal, fantastic) with reality (real problems, real polemics) and didn’t know how to deal with them or develop them both simultaneously. I got pretty frustrated, really
So thats why I stopped hearing about it. I’ve never read it, but for a while lore olympus was everywhere and so many people were cosplaying it, but at some point I just never heard anything about it again until finding this video 😬
She actually looks and acts younger than that. That’s why I didn’t buy it when Hades acts all shocked to discover she’s only 19. Like, how old did he THINK she was? Ain’t no way he thought she was older than that.
No, I’m so upset that it villainises Demeter! I had no idea this story did that. In the original myth, she’s the main hero of the story as she tries to get her daughter back! And this is supposed to be a feminist retelling?
Ok, so while I agree that demeter isn't the villain (That would be Zues since he was the one who ordered the kidnapping to begin with.) She also isn't the hero. In most versions of the myth she makes no attempt to get her daughter back. She just sits around being really sad and causing everything to die.
@@James-nr2hi She searches for Persephone with Hekate and Helios, and it’s her letting the plant life die that convinces Zeus to send Hermes to find Persephone. The lack of food means mortal offerings are drying up, which spurs him to act. And she is the main hero of the story - it was a story about a mother finally winning and getting her child back from an arranged marriage, something generally impossible for woman in a society that did not treat women well. It was a story of hope.
@@violetkerridge4154 Not really. I wish that was the story, because that's really interesting. But after she finds out where her daughter is she gives up. She becomes depressed and travels as a human for a while trying to replace her lost daughter with a mortal baby that she sets on fire every night. When this is discovered she makes the parents of the baby, build her a temple which she spents the rest of the story hiding away in. Not exactly the hero desperately trying to save her daughter now is she? And yes her depression causes everything to die. But as far as I can tell in most versions this isn't an intention attempt to get her daughter back, but rather a physical manifestation of her grief.
@@James-nr2hi I think the depression is after searching and finding out that Hades took Persephone. It is part grief, but also part anger. In a way, I think we’re both right. Greek myths are always up to interpretation and there’s no singular timeline of events because there are multiple versions of everything. But either way, making Demeter the villain is not the feminist take a lot of authors seem to think it is.
@@violetkerridge4154 Absolutely. I don't dislike your interpretation. In fact I love it. It's by far my favourite interpretation. I should have made that more clear instead of sounding so negative. It's just that given the Ancient Greek views on women and especially motherhood being as bad as they were I don't think that interpretation was intended. But regardless I agree that Demeter is not the Villain, not by a mile. Hades is definitely partially at fault, but if I were to name a villain of this story it would be Zues. This entire story is his fault after all.
I stopped soon after the hiatus ended, what with the trial and all that. I felt that season was really good, and I was on the edge of my seat to see the aftermath, just for it to time skip and miss opportunities for an interesting story. I was kind of bummed because I wanted to see during the punishment, but oh well
Respectfully…Minthe deserved better. -Getting tricked by your ‘friend’ to drink and then end up in someone’s bed -Having aggressive reactions due to your past with abuse and said ‘friend’ -Having your boyfriend emotionally cheat on you with a recently turned 18-19 yr old -being turned into a plant because you exposed Persephone’s crimes of using wrath in the past and covering it up -Not even being given an apology by Persephone after all the emotional DAMAGE and terror you felt within those years trapped as a Minthe plant -Having no shoulder to depend on to help you heal your untreated and undiagnosed mental illness and trauma LIKE????
THANK YOU, like yes she IS and abuser but people for getting that Hades isn't a victim well I do feel bad for him for getting hit... But he cheated on her than make her feel like the paranoid one and then her "friend" get her drunk feel her head with insecurities that she already has not to mention no talking about how hera treated her like hera treated he like a disgusting thing that Hades sleeps with and when she defended herself she's the bad guy again and hera insisting that hades to married Persephone and Hecate match making them when Hades and minthe still together.
i think it would have been cool if persephone was a fertility goddess but its her being loved that brings that power out fully. and because she felt stifled by her mother, even tho she loved her, it was still controlling and thats why she didn't know or have full control over them. and its only when she comes into herself and feels true healthy love, she feels safe enough in her head, past all the trauma, to finally become fully powerful. and her snapping and accessing that power during her vengeful moment could also play into it. like the dark side of love, the loss of her sisters is what brings it out, but in a very unstable way.
If they actually had veered into her possible connections of being a deity of death or a psychopomp of some sort, while also being a fertility goddess, that would have been very interesting. Alas.
I've stopped reading somewhere around the time when she came back from the exile. Not intentionally but I guess I just didn't care enough. Which is kinda sad when I think how much I used to love this story, despite its many flaws and that it didn't really feel as much as Greek myth retelling, but I didn't really care since most of Hades and Persephone retellings feel that way to me. There was just something compelling and fun about it, and it definitely lost this quality over the years. It speaks for itself that I had zero reaction now for finding out that they got married lol. Well, I'm glad that at least I didn't spend any more time on it since it apparently went even more downhill around the time I stopped catching up with it. I actually tried Lore Rekindled today and was so pleasantly surprised by it. It definitely sparked that joy that I first felt when I found LO, but this one is much better.
I truly loved this webtoon in the beginning, as I was really looking forward to a modern retelling of the myths (which I am a huge fan of). When I started this webtoon, I was actually on the island of Crete and it was so much fun to be at a mythologically important place while reading this webtoon but unfortunately it definitely fell off after 20 chapters or so. I kept on casually reading it but during the trial, I completely lost interest in it and only finished it, because I had invested so much time in it already
That was my biggest issue with the reveal about Persephone’s past. You’re right, it made her flawed, and thus more interesting. Instead, wrath wasn’t actually her OWN but forced upon her. Because nothing is ever her fault, of course. Also, it seems really weird and random to me that the mortals shoved a literal goddess and mocked her? And instead of lashing out and snapping (like gods normally do in all myths), she cries and pleads and tries to help them. What a let down :(
I'm struggling to finish season 3 because it's all over the place. Like kronos, demeter, and apollo are just whatever is convenient to the plot. I feel like Hera is the only one consistant.
I finally saw the ending. that was...an ending...I feel like the divorse was forced because zeus finally told her he loved her but I mean that doesn't erase the centuries of infedelity. So good for her. Everyone else...didn't care for.
for real. ten years passed and Psyche looks completely different. I would have been fine with her being black if it had been throughout the entire storyline
Honestly, the best part of the series is the art. Don’t show up for plot. The plot gets lazy after the first book or two. Like the first red flag was how old Hades was and then fresh young Persephone comes along and goes through her trauma and because they are both “broken” people, they fix each other? Ok. And then Persephone’s trauma just kind of takes a backseat the romantic fluff between her and Hades. They’re all such amazing characters but after a while…it got stale and repetitive.
23:23 Yeah, the love scenes in the midst of the major conflict (The plague- winter- and needing to face Kronos to remedy the plague) are odd. For example, in the other episode, when Hades and Persephone were in the pool, I was expecting them to fuse (use the fertility goddess power), become Titans, and confront Kronos- NOT make love as if nothing's wrong.
For me personally, I'm so tired of the trope that only tall guys can be "hot." Also the constant "little goddess" shit from Hades to Persephone comes across as fetish-y in ways I can't really articulate.
@genevieve7676 It's something I'd say to kid, but never an adult because it would be weird/rude at that point. So calling your significant other "little x" is just so gross to me as it's infantilizing to me.
@@genevieve7676 I kid you not, Hades stopped aging at 41 canonically and a literal charecter said he looked like "her dusty old dad" that and the constant infanilization of persephone made it really really creepy. Persephone stopped aging at 19 btw, the weird gap between them is very purposeful
@@seashellgarden222741 and 19??????!! I couldn’t get into lore olympus and retained nothing of what I had seen so that is shocking to me. Even as someone in their 20s 19 is still so young, so that vs 41 is yiiikes
Honestly, I felt I was just losing interest and the only thing that has kept me going is the dislike for characters like Apollo. For me the ending with Apollo is satisfying to me as a victim of similar things however the addition of Ouranos is unnecessary we already had Kronos filling the threat of ancient god with a vendetta coming back. Only thing that was positive for me was Hera's mental journey, which is another victim of abuse story, unlike Persphone tho Hera actively did something
Anyone who knows about Persephone and her worshipers we know that she was so deeply involved in making sure they kept their goddess happy because she was seen as the most powerful horrifying god out there. She’s amazing but she was feared for good reason
The first baffling dare i say bad choice was changing a myth where Hades is her kidnapper and rapist, Demeter is devastated and enraged at the loss but can do nothing about it, always her daughters biggest cheerleader, and Zeus is enabling all of this......and made Hades barely a problem, Apollo present at all let alone her rapist, and Demeter an abusive mother. We can argue about retellings all day. This is not a feminist one though, full stop. Making somebodys canonical abuser not their canonical abuser isnt giving them agency, its making agency unnecessary. Its throwing the actions THEY perform onto other people and calling it feminism. Absolutely nuts anybody ever thought it was a good move. Being honest about my opinion. I try to be understanding usually but this comic was....wow. most hades/persephone retellings are the same way. A fetishization of a relationship that never was. Greek and Roman myths are so deeply misunderstood and warped by western pop culture. I only have half a grasp on like. 2. Maybe 3. This one and Narcissus and Echo. Working on Achilles and Patroclus. I dont read modern retellings anymore theyre so disappointing. I guess im glad they bring others joy, i just wish anybody gave half a shit about the real stories. AND the cultural context they exist in, bc it gets truly tragic.
I really thought we were going to get resolution for the side characters, have the nymph discrimination be addressed, have the characters redeem themselves... and then it threw all the interesting stuff out the window just to focus on the shallow romance.
It was weird and kinda creepy from the start. Everyone infantilizing Persephone (that is in fact a child, without any knowledge about what consent and relationships are), but at the same time sexualizing her all the time... NOPE.
‘Feminist retelling’ where the first time the male lesd sees the female lead, he only focuses on her body. plus I don’t think she ever even finished her schooling, just was given a job by hades 😭
I’m pretty early in the video here but I have to say I agree. Right around the time skip, the trial, flashback you mentioned and all that is when I felt like the story was kind of losing itself and I stopped reading it.
I agree that hades/persephone's relationship fell flat. I really liked it in the beginning (besides the creepy age gap) but I loved their flirting and banter, that they would just hang around and do stuff for fun. once it did the time skip- it didn't have the same qualities as before and it felt more like perse talking to her therapist than the love of her life. I also feel like the time skip was a cheap way to end all the problems and create the new kronos conflict- we never got to see much of the suffering that happened after zeus' verdict and all the issues such as TGOEM was just like "oh, its ok"
I love your analysis and your accent so I'm you 13th subscriber. spoiler: and thankfully, in the recent chapters, hades is gone. so, she has to deal with everything without him.
I have so many mixed feelings on Lore Olympus. While I will always love season 1, after season 1, I became mixed. Season 3 is eeeh. I always in some ways relate to this version of Persephone. Especially when she was 19. I definitely see where a lot of people are coming from with the major issues with LO. Persephone should have had more agency as a woman and as a character in this retelling and it doesn't do that good of a job at that. I agree with your issues completely. Have you heard of LORE | REKINDLED! It is way better written than LO. Things are actually well thought out and the characters feel more human or relatable as well, especially Persephone. She has a lot more agency in this story and doesn't feel too naive and has a backbone and isn't treated like she's the best damn thing ever lol. The art feels more consistent and I love how everyone stands out from each other instead of looking the same. Body shapes, especially. The new additions feel organic as well and the impact of Persephone's wrath. A must read! As much as I am still a LO fan, Chapter 230 was it for me when wanting to see Demeter get better. I didn't like it and it felt so bitter and mean. Also, yeah....looking closely at Hades again, there are things I can't ignore for what he has done that were questionable.
The first season has a tighter story because Smythe was able to trial run LO online before it got officially licensed. She was able to take time to edit and draft a better manuscript. Once licensed, she was able to really polish her early work and keep focus and scope of the characters more narrow. However, once more and more characters and myths were introduced, Smythe seemed to run into similar problems other authors face when handling a large cast of character. Juggling so many plot lines and characters became more and more haphazardly executed. Instead of letting the story breathe, the episodes seemed to really just hit highlights. Then there were parts that seemed unnecessarily elongated where every movement of a character seemed to be banging on too long to fill out the length of the episode while not accomplishing much narrative drive. I definitely need to go back and reread it all, waiting for episodes to drop has a lot of the story muddled in my head, but much of what you've mentioned here is similar to how I felt. I really *hated* the time skip. If felt like a cheap ploy to serve lose ends to character's stories. And as a reader, it was a missed opportunity for Smythe to really twist the knife into the reader's gut and have us beg her to bring Persephone back if we got to see what was happening to everyone who was now forced to live without her. The wedding was underwhelming. I was really disappointed in Persephone's dress, it just looked so ordinary. It could have been a great opportunity to have Smythe create a Greek inspired wedding dress or something avant-garde. And the ending felt... like Persephone wasn't even needed? Somehow other side and very minor characters upstaged the female lead? And then it just ends? No epilog chapters? No special bonus chapters? No spin-off side chapters? Nothing?? And then seeing Smythe post some post-LO interview clips just made me more frustrated because, to me, she seemed kinda checked out? Or her answers to questions really weren't satisfactory to me as they came off as off the cuff, similar to how LO unfolded. I dunno. Again, totally empathize with your frustration with LO. I definitely need to reread and see if what I'm feeling now about the series changes. LO used to be my highlight before starting a work week, but eventually I stopped reading weekly because the story just lost so much luster. Lots to think about. Great video! 🎉
Woah. I’ve never read LO (Apollo is my fav god and I hate how he’s written so I can’t lol). But ‘Fertility goddess’ seems so exclusionary. They can only empower men? What if one of them was gay, would they not be able to empower anyone? Can fertility goddesses not be gay? I feel like for such a popular comic, this should’ve been considered, because it’s genuinely terrible.
In the newest chapter, Hera is also a Fertility Goddess and she kissed Echo (which is vile when you know the actual myth. Out of ALL maybe female LO, you pick the one she abuses and punishes in her actual myth? And in LO, Echo was sent as a spy?? tf???). So it's unclear.
Also what about trans women or trans men? I feel like only cis women being fertility goddesses in LO reduces cis women to their vaginas which gives me the ick as a vagina-haver. Also, how come Persephone is a fertility goddess but not Demeter even though they have similar powers and myths Demeter is a goddess of growing crops, which are associated with fertility in many ancient cultures?
@@genevieve7676 I never thought about it from that perspective, you’re so right! Fertility goddesses in general seems like a really badly-thought-out, exclusionary concept.
The most baffling part about all of this imo is that Kronos is a fertility god himself, being the titan that ruled over the harvests and the golden age.
For me a really wierd thing was how Rachel made Persephone 19 years old and Hades a couple hundred years old...like why? They are both God, thry can be close in age and immortal, so why make this huge age gap for nothing? Made no sense... she's not a mortal and would have been better not to mention their ages at all...
A couple hundred? Try thousands, he’s 2000 years old 😭 but I agree, at some point I forgot their ages (and age gape) and the situation got a bit better
In the past, I got curious when I saw an advertisement of this and went to check it out after finishing a castle swimmer episode when it was new to the WEBTOON platform (CS is a year younger than LO) I got interested but as it progressed, I was getting bored because, IMP, the plot was dragging, seeing the characters & background only one or two colours is just boring, side stories show no screen time, explanation-bla bla bla…. Until it finally ended, I now only read it just to fill the hungry entertainment void while my favourites ,castle swimmer to be specific, is on hiatus.
there are a lot of stories that touch on shallow, surface level issues for women and femininity in society, but when it comes to the author's own unchecked biases about women's positions in relationships and society, and just maybe poor writing skills in general, the themes start to fall apart and the audience becomes frustrated because problems start to become more apparent
It had so much potential i think greed got the best of this stuff got dragged out characters didn’t develop it could’ve been great but it fumbled (i stick by loving hades tho i think i got up to zeus letting her sentence up and i only got that far bc i was hoping it would get better 😭 but consistently i loved hades he was the only thing keeping me there)
I used to love the first few chapters but then they ruined Apollo and made Persephone into such a Girl Boss™ that it lost the charm and as the story went on, I lost my taste for it and turned to a more fun alternative; playing Hades.
Season1: "I am here for Hades and there's a pink chick that is better than his red chick" Season2: .... starring Pinkchick and now Hades is either offscreen or offcharacter There's more ? Meh
I stopped reading when I started to realized how much of a mess this story is. It forgets storylines and rushes to pay off with little build up…yea it’s just a disorganized narrative
I actually love the art, and I like how Hades is damaged with trauma etc... but I don't like the l u s t and the story was meh... Some parts I did enjoy, most I didn't.
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There’s a fan remake called ‘Lore Olympus: Rekindled’ and it’s fire, fixed a few issues I had
REALLY?! Where can I read it?? EDIT: YOU CAN READ IT ON TUMBLR AND THEY ALREADY HAVE 50+ EPISODES IN AND A BETTER LGBT REP AND 100% BETTER STORY THAN TRASH LO
I suggest folks save it if you enjoy it. Fan things usually get pulled after the powers that be find out about them.
If there's no ridiculous age gap and persephone isn't this naive sexualized character and demeter isn't demonized then I might read it. Are those things true?
@@kitsuujujitsuu4025 yeah, Persephone isn’t a child she’s is a ageless god like the others, cause like her original myth, she is simply the child of Demeter, not 18, and she isn’t naive sexualized character, she is her own character, as for Demeter I haven’t read that far so idk if they got to her but so far nothing here has the blatant issues the original had
@ImVeryWholesome well that's relieving to hear! I'm definitely most bothered by the issues with Persephone's character, so im glad at least those two things are fixed. Ik a lot of people on tumblr hate the og comic and the demeter thing is one of the biggest reasons why, so im willing to trust that she was fixed in the rekindled story. I'll take a look at it
Still going through the vid but your frustrations with how Persephone is not allowed to have any real flaws is so on point. I never really realized it but yea, I think taking away her agency and fault in the mortal deaths and trying to make it look like they had it coming by creating a very forced circumstance of them disrespecting her was the jumped shark for me too.
There are also other moments when she interacts with nymphs or other non-god creatures in which they have plenty good reason to dislike or distance themselves from her when she acts in a petty manner towards them but it's treated as her being badass and standing up for herself?
It especially annoys me that Persephone's anger isn't real, just some creepy gift from Eris.
In the myths, Hera, Apollo and Poseidon tried to overthrow Zeus. Apollo was punished by being turned mortal for 10 years (and in the mortal world, he fell in love with a man called Admetus and helped Admetus impress a woman called Alcestis after they broke up). I heard that Persephone gets turned mortal for 10 years in this - are they giving Apollo’s backstory to Persephone?
I thought that Apollo and Poseidon had to make the wall around Troy?
@@sharonfarge7743 Both! (I think)
@@violetkerridge4154 That makes sense and it explains why it was such a big deal😅
@@sharonfarge7743 yeah. I heard that the comic completely erased Apollo’s bisexuality, is that true? Coupled with the fact that out of every god, Smythe made him be the one to assault Persephone, when he has nothing to do with her in the myths… it seems very harmful to me. I don’t want to invalidate anyone who felt seen by the story and I know this is an important topic that needs to be discussed. I just don’t understand why Smythe went about it the way she did.
@@violetkerridge4154 Pretty much! It's never mentioned in the comic and he's only an antagonist now.
You are hitting every point on the head. I stopped reading Lore Olympus seriously after the third or fourth sleep dive, and like you, I have been having issues with the series since the trial arc. The plot holes; poor character development; everything involving making Cronos a main villain because now we have three main villains with Apollo, Uranus, and Cronos.🙄 (It sucks because I used to fast past every episode but now I dont think its worth it). Everything has just become so shallow. Persephone is ALWAYS the victim and misunderstood and she is never allowed to develop past her cinnamon roll persona unless it is sexy to Hades (like when she released animals in that water nymphs house). I have also noticed a drop in quality for her character designs. They used to be unique and very distinguished even though they has simple colors but now they all have the same body type. For example, Persephone is very petite and big breasted while Aphrodite, Hera,Mynth and Amphitrite were average height and had their own features. Now, all of the wives of the big three (Zues, Poseidon, and Hades) are tiny and big boobed and Mynth, who was tall, skinny and small breasted has big boobs now.
I think the biggest problem with the series is that Rachel only seems to care about Persephone and Hades and she sacrifices the story to always make them look good. All the other characters have their arcs or quirks stripped away so that Persephone can end up being the hero. Zeus, Eros, Poseidon, Hades, these are heavy hitters in the Greek pantheon and Rachel does a lot to make them weak or irrelevant like locking Eros in a dungeon (even though it made more sense for Eros just to kill Cassandra and then have Persophone find her shade in the underworld for questioning); constantly putting Hades (and now Zeus) in some sleep coma deep dive b.s; and simply forgetting Poseidon exists.
I feel like the story was never meant to be this long and I think Rachel is getting burnt out with it. She clearly loves to draw Hades and Persephone so I think she might be better suited for a light slice of life comic with low stakes and snap shots of Hades and Perephones life rather than a serialized comic.
Rachel said on Instagram that she is ending the series in May so I am going to finish the story, but I wont be paying coins for it anymore.
I thought it was ending in Nov. 2024. I just started reading "Lore Olympus" and got caught up, as of last week. As much as I liked the series, I agree with your points.
Funnily enough i would rather say that Rachel cares only about Persephone and Hera because after re-reading comic i realised that Hades doesn't actually have a character arc.
His and Minthe relationships ended only because Persephone turned her into plant and Hades not only didn't learnt anything from it he also just acts like Minthe doesn't existed.
Kronos arc was given entirely to S3 Hera and S2 Persephone despite Kronos being teased at first not only as abusive father to Hades but the main person he got insecurities and traumas from.
But yeah overall LO works atrociously bad with it's character and arcs, i agree with your comment. This comic wasn't planned at all!
It didn't "get weird", you grew up and realized what you were reading. this webtoon was always horrible
I dissagree. I came into the game very late, as I avoided this webtoon in the beggining. So, when I fell in love with it, it was around 1-2 years only before these things started happening and I dexided to drrop cuz I just couldn't do it anymore. I did love it before. But then it just lost its luster
Completely disagree
@@mclaraamorimblood it depends. A lot of ppl say the same thing for Star vs the forces of evil and Miraculous Ladybug. But the problems that plagued the portions of the story that were “bad”, were pretty apparent in the early episodes of the series. Some people don’t improve writing as they go on. The issues that were there will often get worse. This could very well be another one of those situations. Heck, it’s highly likely those issues were always there and ppl just didn’t notice.
Totally
@@BelBelle468i don't think miraculous is as bad as lore Olympus or SVTOE tho...
That battle with kronos was so cringe and weird developed I lost interest after it. Forgot about it until yeaterday and decided to type lore olympus to see how it was holding with critics on yt. Not surprised.
I, like you, loved it at the start. It got me through the pandemic. This comic really needed a story consultant to help to go through some stories in a more consistent way.
Literally thats when i decided to stop i wasn’t feeling it for a while bc they kept dragging it but after that i was like hurry up marry them and wrap it up 💀
Was that the part where she released bees from her mouth? I can't remember.
Hera vs Kronos made way more sense than Persephone vs Kronos, given Hera's age and overall experience.
I’m honestly just reading it as a quirky regular romance, I’m actually not even taking in part the whole “Greek mythology “ bc it isn’t even following it.
Same lmao!! However it did inspire me to read real Greek Mythology after I finished it so I can compare it with LO. Its sooo off ;-;
@@strawberry.smokeee lmO it rlly is!!
I don't even understand the actual Mythos is more weird
This is the appropriate way to take LO in, in my opinion. It’s clearly trying to be a self indulgent romance ahead of being some sort of deep and accurate portrayal of Greek mythology. And people who expect it to be are unrealistic, particularly because adaptions usually aren’t accurate and LO clearly never was one to begin with.
I think I gave up right after the rushed wedding. I tried, I really did. I was a huge fan but you could tell Rachel wanted it to be over but didn’t know how to hit all the beats. We went from a slow burn to bam bam bam. Huge pacing issues. Nothing seemed satisfying or earned
Same😅 I had such high hopes for that day🥲 but it kinda left me underwhelmed in the end
I stopped reading it after maybe twenty chapters? Simply because it did get weird and it wasn't following greek mythos and people were saying it was accurate lol. The art is pretty though.
nah if I wanted to read something about greek mythology I would've just read Percy Jackson
I stopped after they made Apolo a 🍇ist
Its not accurate, but I feel it would be better if it were cause holy shit. The fucked up stuff is greek mythology is crazy.
@@LiminalLexsame
I mean, greek myths are ALREADY weird (starting with inc3st and ending in zooph1lia) but that was fantasy for us. The author mixed myth (in the sense of unreal, fantastic) with reality (real problems, real polemics) and didn’t know how to deal with them or develop them both simultaneously. I got pretty frustrated, really
So thats why I stopped hearing about it. I’ve never read it, but for a while lore olympus was everywhere and so many people were cosplaying it, but at some point I just never heard anything about it again until finding this video 😬
tbh i don't know why i kept reading after the comic revealed persephone was only 19.
She actually looks and acts younger than that.
That’s why I didn’t buy it when Hades acts all shocked to discover she’s only 19.
Like, how old did he THINK she was?
Ain’t no way he thought she was older than that.
No, I’m so upset that it villainises Demeter! I had no idea this story did that. In the original myth, she’s the main hero of the story as she tries to get her daughter back! And this is supposed to be a feminist retelling?
Ok, so while I agree that demeter isn't the villain (That would be Zues since he was the one who ordered the kidnapping to begin with.)
She also isn't the hero. In most versions of the myth she makes no attempt to get her daughter back. She just sits around being really sad and causing everything to die.
@@James-nr2hi She searches for Persephone with Hekate and Helios, and it’s her letting the plant life die that convinces Zeus to send Hermes to find Persephone. The lack of food means mortal offerings are drying up, which spurs him to act. And she is the main hero of the story - it was a story about a mother finally winning and getting her child back from an arranged marriage, something generally impossible for woman in a society that did not treat women well. It was a story of hope.
@@violetkerridge4154 Not really. I wish that was the story, because that's really interesting.
But after she finds out where her daughter is she gives up. She becomes depressed and travels as a human for a while trying to replace her lost daughter with a mortal baby that she sets on fire every night. When this is discovered she makes the parents of the baby, build her a temple which she spents the rest of the story hiding away in. Not exactly the hero desperately trying to save her daughter now is she?
And yes her depression causes everything to die. But as far as I can tell in most versions this isn't an intention attempt to get her daughter back, but rather a physical manifestation of her grief.
@@James-nr2hi I think the depression is after searching and finding out that Hades took Persephone. It is part grief, but also part anger. In a way, I think we’re both right. Greek myths are always up to interpretation and there’s no singular timeline of events because there are multiple versions of everything. But either way, making Demeter the villain is not the feminist take a lot of authors seem to think it is.
@@violetkerridge4154 Absolutely. I don't dislike your interpretation. In fact I love it. It's by far my favourite interpretation. I should have made that more clear instead of sounding so negative.
It's just that given the Ancient Greek views on women and especially motherhood being as bad as they were I don't think that interpretation was intended.
But regardless I agree that Demeter is not the Villain, not by a mile. Hades is definitely partially at fault, but if I were to name a villain of this story it would be Zues. This entire story is his fault after all.
I stopped soon after the hiatus ended, what with the trial and all that. I felt that season was really good, and I was on the edge of my seat to see the aftermath, just for it to time skip and miss opportunities for an interesting story. I was kind of bummed because I wanted to see during the punishment, but oh well
Respectfully…Minthe deserved better.
-Getting tricked by your ‘friend’ to drink and then end up in someone’s bed
-Having aggressive reactions due to your past with abuse and said ‘friend’
-Having your boyfriend emotionally cheat on you with a recently turned 18-19 yr old
-being turned into a plant because you exposed Persephone’s crimes of using wrath in the past and covering it up
-Not even being given an apology by Persephone after all the emotional DAMAGE and terror you felt within those years trapped as a Minthe plant
-Having no shoulder to depend on to help you heal your untreated and undiagnosed mental illness and trauma
LIKE????
THANK YOU, like yes she IS and abuser but people for getting that Hades isn't a victim well I do feel bad for him for getting hit... But he cheated on her than make her feel like the paranoid one and then her "friend" get her drunk feel her head with insecurities that she already has not to mention no talking about how hera treated her like hera treated he like a disgusting thing that Hades sleeps with and when she defended herself she's the bad guy again and hera insisting that hades to married Persephone and Hecate match making them when Hades and minthe still together.
i think it would have been cool if persephone was a fertility goddess but its her being loved that brings that power out fully. and because she felt stifled by her mother, even tho she loved her, it was still controlling and thats why she didn't know or have full control over them. and its only when she comes into herself and feels true healthy love, she feels safe enough in her head, past all the trauma, to finally become fully powerful.
and her snapping and accessing that power during her vengeful moment could also play into it. like the dark side of love, the loss of her sisters is what brings it out, but in a very unstable way.
If they actually had veered into her possible connections of being a deity of death or a psychopomp of some sort, while also being a fertility goddess, that would have been very interesting. Alas.
I've stopped reading somewhere around the time when she came back from the exile. Not intentionally but I guess I just didn't care enough. Which is kinda sad when I think how much I used to love this story, despite its many flaws and that it didn't really feel as much as Greek myth retelling, but I didn't really care since most of Hades and Persephone retellings feel that way to me. There was just something compelling and fun about it, and it definitely lost this quality over the years. It speaks for itself that I had zero reaction now for finding out that they got married lol.
Well, I'm glad that at least I didn't spend any more time on it since it apparently went even more downhill around the time I stopped catching up with it. I actually tried Lore Rekindled today and was so pleasantly surprised by it. It definitely sparked that joy that I first felt when I found LO, but this one is much better.
This is very much my exact opinion on Lore olympus, great video
Thank you so much!
I truly loved this webtoon in the beginning, as I was really looking forward to a modern retelling of the myths (which I am a huge fan of). When I started this webtoon, I was actually on the island of Crete and it was so much fun to be at a mythologically important place while reading this webtoon but unfortunately it definitely fell off after 20 chapters or so. I kept on casually reading it but during the trial, I completely lost interest in it and only finished it, because I had invested so much time in it already
I wish people were more critical of media they liked at least then a lot more creators and authors would start thinking about quality again.
That was my biggest issue with the reveal about Persephone’s past.
You’re right, it made her flawed, and thus more interesting. Instead, wrath wasn’t actually her OWN but forced upon her. Because nothing is ever her fault, of course.
Also, it seems really weird and random to me that the mortals shoved a literal goddess and mocked her?
And instead of lashing out and snapping (like gods normally do in all myths), she cries and pleads and tries to help them. What a let down :(
I'm struggling to finish season 3 because it's all over the place. Like kronos, demeter, and apollo are just whatever is convenient to the plot. I feel like Hera is the only one consistant.
Hera is the best written character 1,000%
@@01379 even minthe is more consistent than perse.
Well. Idk if you caved and fastpassed but Hera remaining consistent goes down the drain right at the very end lol.
I finally saw the ending. that was...an ending...I feel like the divorse was forced because zeus finally told her he loved her but I mean that doesn't erase the centuries of infedelity.
So good for her. Everyone else...didn't care for.
I don’t think there’s enough discussion about Rachel retroactively making Psyche black for inclusivity points.
for real. ten years passed and Psyche looks completely different. I would have been fine with her being black if it had been throughout the entire storyline
Honestly, the best part of the series is the art. Don’t show up for plot. The plot gets lazy after the first book or two. Like the first red flag was how old Hades was and then fresh young Persephone comes along and goes through her trauma and because they are both “broken” people, they fix each other? Ok. And then Persephone’s trauma just kind of takes a backseat the romantic fluff between her and Hades. They’re all such amazing characters but after a while…it got stale and repetitive.
23:23 Yeah, the love scenes in the midst of the major conflict (The plague- winter- and needing to face Kronos to remedy the plague) are odd. For example, in the other episode, when Hades and Persephone were in the pool, I was expecting them to fuse (use the fertility goddess power), become Titans, and confront Kronos- NOT make love as if nothing's wrong.
It was weird since the beginning when the male gods are like idk, 40x the size of female gods, that was a humongous turn off.
For me personally, I'm so tired of the trope that only tall guys can be "hot." Also the constant "little goddess" shit from Hades to Persephone comes across as fetish-y in ways I can't really articulate.
@genevieve7676 It's something I'd say to kid, but never an adult because it would be weird/rude at that point. So calling your significant other "little x" is just so gross to me as it's infantilizing to me.
@@genevieve7676 I kid you not, Hades stopped aging at 41 canonically and a literal charecter said he looked like "her dusty old dad" that and the constant infanilization of persephone made it really really creepy. Persephone stopped aging at 19 btw, the weird gap between them is very purposeful
@@seashellgarden222741 and 19??????!! I couldn’t get into lore olympus and retained nothing of what I had seen so that is shocking to me. Even as someone in their 20s 19 is still so young, so that vs 41 is yiiikes
@@Aeiouaaaaaaaaahe's actually over 2000
Honestly, I felt I was just losing interest and the only thing that has kept me going is the dislike for characters like Apollo. For me the ending with Apollo is satisfying to me as a victim of similar things however the addition of Ouranos is unnecessary we already had Kronos filling the threat of ancient god with a vendetta coming back. Only thing that was positive for me was Hera's mental journey, which is another victim of abuse story, unlike Persphone tho Hera actively did something
It was actually the story making Apollo a 🍇 ist that turned me away from the whole thing in general.
God the artstyle and character design slaps, but it got soso booooring and overtly straight and I was just done
Anyone who knows about Persephone and her worshipers we know that she was so deeply involved in making sure they kept their goddess happy because she was seen as the most powerful horrifying god out there. She’s amazing but she was feared for good reason
The first baffling dare i say bad choice was changing a myth where Hades is her kidnapper and rapist, Demeter is devastated and enraged at the loss but can do nothing about it, always her daughters biggest cheerleader, and Zeus is enabling all of this......and made Hades barely a problem, Apollo present at all let alone her rapist, and Demeter an abusive mother. We can argue about retellings all day. This is not a feminist one though, full stop. Making somebodys canonical abuser not their canonical abuser isnt giving them agency, its making agency unnecessary. Its throwing the actions THEY perform onto other people and calling it feminism. Absolutely nuts anybody ever thought it was a good move.
Being honest about my opinion. I try to be understanding usually but this comic was....wow. most hades/persephone retellings are the same way. A fetishization of a relationship that never was. Greek and Roman myths are so deeply misunderstood and warped by western pop culture. I only have half a grasp on like. 2. Maybe 3. This one and Narcissus and Echo. Working on Achilles and Patroclus. I dont read modern retellings anymore theyre so disappointing. I guess im glad they bring others joy, i just wish anybody gave half a shit about the real stories. AND the cultural context they exist in, bc it gets truly tragic.
I really thought we were going to get resolution for the side characters, have the nymph discrimination be addressed, have the characters redeem themselves... and then it threw all the interesting stuff out the window just to focus on the shallow romance.
It was weird and kinda creepy from the start. Everyone infantilizing Persephone (that is in fact a child, without any knowledge about what consent and relationships are), but at the same time sexualizing her all the time... NOPE.
‘Feminist retelling’
where the first time the male lesd sees the female lead, he only focuses on her body. plus I don’t think she ever even finished her schooling, just was given a job by hades 😭
@@ohno7153
He’s so weirdly horny to her right off the bat, even though she’s a child compared to him. Really weird.
I couldn’t go farther than a few chapters cause the side characters were so alike i was confused all the time
I’m pretty early in the video here but I have to say I agree. Right around the time skip, the trial, flashback you mentioned and all that is when I felt like the story was kind of losing itself and I stopped reading it.
I agree that hades/persephone's relationship fell flat. I really liked it in the beginning (besides the creepy age gap) but I loved their flirting and banter, that they would just hang around and do stuff for fun. once it did the time skip- it didn't have the same qualities as before and it felt more like perse talking to her therapist than the love of her life. I also feel like the time skip was a cheap way to end all the problems and create the new kronos conflict- we never got to see much of the suffering that happened after zeus' verdict and all the issues such as TGOEM was just like "oh, its ok"
I fell off from the story as soon as that giant thing happened. I tried to keep reading but the plot just lost me.
I love your analysis and your accent so I'm you 13th subscriber.
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and thankfully, in the recent chapters, hades is gone. so, she has to deal with everything without him.
Thank you so much I'm really flattered! ☺
@@alwayslatetoeverything 😊 I was only telling my thoughts.
Wait what happened to him?
I have so many mixed feelings on Lore Olympus. While I will always love season 1, after season 1, I became mixed. Season 3 is eeeh. I always in some ways relate to this version of Persephone. Especially when she was 19. I definitely see where a lot of people are coming from with the major issues with LO. Persephone should have had more agency as a woman and as a character in this retelling and it doesn't do that good of a job at that. I agree with your issues completely. Have you heard of LORE | REKINDLED!
It is way better written than LO. Things are actually well thought out and the characters feel more human or relatable as well, especially Persephone. She has a lot more agency in this story and doesn't feel too naive and has a backbone and isn't treated like she's the best damn thing ever lol. The art feels more consistent and I love how everyone stands out from each other instead of looking the same. Body shapes, especially. The new additions feel organic as well and the impact of Persephone's wrath. A must read!
As much as I am still a LO fan, Chapter 230 was it for me when wanting to see Demeter get better. I didn't like it and it felt so bitter and mean. Also, yeah....looking closely at Hades again, there are things I can't ignore for what he has done that were questionable.
I strongly believe it all would have been avoided if OSP's Persephone and Demeter deep dive video existed when Rachel started working on LO.
The first season has a tighter story because Smythe was able to trial run LO online before it got officially licensed. She was able to take time to edit and draft a better manuscript. Once licensed, she was able to really polish her early work and keep focus and scope of the characters more narrow. However, once more and more characters and myths were introduced, Smythe seemed to run into similar problems other authors face when handling a large cast of character. Juggling so many plot lines and characters became more and more haphazardly executed. Instead of letting the story breathe, the episodes seemed to really just hit highlights. Then there were parts that seemed unnecessarily elongated where every movement of a character seemed to be banging on too long to fill out the length of the episode while not accomplishing much narrative drive.
I definitely need to go back and reread it all, waiting for episodes to drop has a lot of the story muddled in my head, but much of what you've mentioned here is similar to how I felt.
I really *hated* the time skip. If felt like a cheap ploy to serve lose ends to character's stories. And as a reader, it was a missed opportunity for Smythe to really twist the knife into the reader's gut and have us beg her to bring Persephone back if we got to see what was happening to everyone who was now forced to live without her.
The wedding was underwhelming. I was really disappointed in Persephone's dress, it just looked so ordinary. It could have been a great opportunity to have Smythe create a Greek inspired wedding dress or something avant-garde.
And the ending felt... like Persephone wasn't even needed? Somehow other side and very minor characters upstaged the female lead? And then it just ends? No epilog chapters? No special bonus chapters? No spin-off side chapters? Nothing??
And then seeing Smythe post some post-LO interview clips just made me more frustrated because, to me, she seemed kinda checked out? Or her answers to questions really weren't satisfactory to me as they came off as off the cuff, similar to how LO unfolded.
I dunno. Again, totally empathize with your frustration with LO. I definitely need to reread and see if what I'm feeling now about the series changes. LO used to be my highlight before starting a work week, but eventually I stopped reading weekly because the story just lost so much luster. Lots to think about.
Great video! 🎉
6:44 this moment is literally based off of an actual Legend in Greek mythology except it was Demeter
Woah. I’ve never read LO (Apollo is my fav god and I hate how he’s written so I can’t lol). But ‘Fertility goddess’ seems so exclusionary. They can only empower men? What if one of them was gay, would they not be able to empower anyone? Can fertility goddesses not be gay? I feel like for such a popular comic, this should’ve been considered, because it’s genuinely terrible.
In the newest chapter, Hera is also a Fertility Goddess and she kissed Echo (which is vile when you know the actual myth. Out of ALL maybe female LO, you pick the one she abuses and punishes in her actual myth? And in LO, Echo was sent as a spy?? tf???). So it's unclear.
@@IceQueen975 WTF
Also what about trans women or trans men? I feel like only cis women being fertility goddesses in LO reduces cis women to their vaginas which gives me the ick as a vagina-haver. Also, how come Persephone is a fertility goddess but not Demeter even though they have similar powers and myths Demeter is a goddess of growing crops, which are associated with fertility in many ancient cultures?
@@genevieve7676 I never thought about it from that perspective, you’re so right! Fertility goddesses in general seems like a really badly-thought-out, exclusionary concept.
The most baffling part about all of this imo is that Kronos is a fertility god himself, being the titan that ruled over the harvests and the golden age.
For me a really wierd thing was how Rachel made Persephone 19 years old and Hades a couple hundred years old...like why? They are both God, thry can be close in age and immortal, so why make this huge age gap for nothing? Made no sense... she's not a mortal and would have been better not to mention their ages at all...
A couple hundred? Try thousands, he’s 2000 years old 😭 but I agree, at some point I forgot their ages (and age gape) and the situation got a bit better
I think the writer is…Into that stuff, if you know what I mean.
She thinks Lolita is a love story.
I loved the artstyle.
That was about it.
In the past, I got curious when I saw an advertisement of this and went to check it out after finishing a castle swimmer episode when it was new to the WEBTOON platform (CS is a year younger than LO) I got interested but as it progressed, I was getting bored because, IMP, the plot was dragging, seeing the characters & background only one or two colours is just boring, side stories show no screen time, explanation-bla bla bla…. Until it finally ended, I now only read it just to fill the hungry entertainment void while my favourites ,castle swimmer to be specific, is on hiatus.
there are a lot of stories that touch on shallow, surface level issues for women and femininity in society, but when it comes to the author's own unchecked biases about women's positions in relationships and society, and just maybe poor writing skills in general, the themes start to fall apart and the audience becomes frustrated because problems start to become more apparent
hope you pop off from this video!
Thank you so much!
It had so much potential i think greed got the best of this stuff got dragged out characters didn’t develop it could’ve been great but it fumbled (i stick by loving hades tho i think i got up to zeus letting her sentence up and i only got that far bc i was hoping it would get better 😭 but consistently i loved hades he was the only thing keeping me there)
Are used to love this series but I kind of got bored on later issues
I used to love the first few chapters but then they ruined Apollo and made Persephone into such a Girl Boss™ that it lost the charm and as the story went on, I lost my taste for it and turned to a more fun alternative; playing Hades.
What part of Apollo did they ruin???
Season1: "I am here for Hades and there's a pink chick that is better than his red chick"
Season2: .... starring Pinkchick and now Hades is either offscreen or offcharacter
There's more ? Meh
I think the author never actually read any Greek stories before writing this webtoon.
Same I could not finish it
I took a 1yr hiatus, when I came back it was done. I have to say it got extra weird, extra cringe? And the ending was mid.
I was kinda okay after the time jump but the battle with Kronos was the last nail in the coffin ao underwhelming and what the f was that outfit??
I stopped reading when I started to realized how much of a mess this story is. It forgets storylines and rushes to pay off with little build up…yea it’s just a disorganized narrative
It ended poorly
I actually love the art, and I like how Hades is damaged with trauma etc... but I don't like the l u s t and the story was meh... Some parts I did enjoy, most I didn't.
*no. im dont know*
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